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US Regulators Seek To Reduce Road Deaths With Smartphone 'Driving Mode' (theguardian.com)

US regulators are seeking to reduce smartphone-related vehicle deaths with a new driving-safe mode that would block or modify apps to prevent them being a distraction while on the road. From a report on The Guardian:The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) are to issue voluntary guidelines for smartphone makers, which will seek to restrict the apps and services accessible on a smartphone being used by a driver. US transport secretary Anthony Foxx said: "Your smartphone becomes so many different things that it's not just a communication device. Distraction is still a problem. Too many people are dying and being injured on our roadways." The NHTSA is hoping that Apple, Samsung and other popular smartphone manufacturers will adopt the guidelines in future smartphone and software releases. The so-called driving mode will block distractions such as social media, messages or email, stop the use of the keyboard for communication activities and also restrict access to websites, video and distracting graphics. The intention is that the driving mode will be adopted in a similar manner to the airplane mode common to most smartphones and connected devices, which restricts radio communications while airborne. Airplane mode has been a feature of smartphones since 2007.

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  1. stupid and too late by sxpert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    better put money in making autonomous vehicles more affordable...

    1. Re:stupid and too late by geekmux · · Score: 4, Funny

      better put money in making autonomous vehicles more affordable...

      Well fuck it, let's just stop educating humans altogether. Clearly we should just give up on the human race and let the machines think for us now.

      Somehow I feel I should use the word "Millennial" in here too, just for the hell of it.

    2. Re:stupid and too late by tchuladdiass · · Score: 2

      That's basically how Android Auto (and I'm assuming Apple Carplay) work. When it is plugged into the dashboard display, you get driving friendly apps, and the rest of the phone is disabled while in that mode.

  2. Block everyone or the driver? by OffTheLip · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like this is a difficult problem to solve. Ideally the individual has sense enough to make the obvious choice to not interact with their device while driving. Sadly, that has not proven to be the case.

    1. Re:Block everyone or the driver? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      Exactly - if it's "enforced" then anyone in a moving vehicle - car, train, bus - will be blocked.

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    2. Re: Block everyone or the driver? by thundercattt · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not really. I mean anyone who plays Pokémon Go (kid does) knows as soon as you speed up in a car the app asks you if you are the passenger and you have to click ok to continue. Apps can incorporate this feature into theirs. As soon as you hit that speed up moment, the phone puts itself into airplane mode. This feature is disabled if Bluetooth or connected to hands free items.

    3. Re:Block everyone or the driver? by The-Ixian · · Score: 2

      You accidentally used the broad tip brush there. Oops.

      I know, from personal experience, that boredom isn't the cause. It's the fact that these devices have become a crutch.

      Do you even know anybody's phone number anymore? I mean, actually memorized? How about street addresses or even directions to places? How often are you talking to someone while driving? Even "hand's free" talking is still distracted driving. How often do you need to seek through several layers of menus to find the thing you want to listen to? How about notifications from the device? Do you need to know the response to that important query you threw out there before you got in the car?

      There are hundreds of reasons for using your mobile device while in the car (driving or not) because these devices do hundreds of things.

      Just like the only solution to not getting "hacked" is to turn your computer off, the only solution to not being distracted while driving is to turn your device off. But that is like turning off a portion of your brain nowadays. Sad but true.

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    4. Re:Block everyone or the driver? by fuzznutz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My girlfriend has a Camry with a fancy Navigation System. It's useless. The passenger cannot change anything as long as the car is in gear. We end up using our phones when going anywhere in her car. It's a $1,000 white elephant. It also sucks for trying to find a destination anyway.

    5. Re: Block everyone or the driver? by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not really. I mean anyone who plays Pokémon Go (kid does) knows as soon as you speed up in a car the app asks you if you are the passenger and you have to click ok to continue.

      Thus creating an additional distraction for the driver, who now needs to look at his phone to find and tap the "I'm a passenger" button.

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  3. Disable maps by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Knowing how government works the first thing they'll disable while the car is moving is your navigation app.

  4. Please block portrait mode video by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be happy with a feature that forces cellphones to shoot video in landscape orientation.

  5. Real world disconnect... by CODiNE · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm just guessing.... that maaaaybe these legislators don't ride the bus often?

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  6. All for education, but... by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Education is wonderful, but we can't fix stupid. Yet.

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    1. Re:All for education, but... by lactose99 · · Score: 2

      Though with any luck within 20 years we'll make stupid a fuel source.

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    2. Re:All for education, but... by unixisc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You can say that again. I was an insurance agent trainee 2 years ago, and often carpooled w/ my boss. She had reckless driving habits - watching videos on the phone, doing snapchat, and another trainee would happily play Candy Crush Saga when she was at the wheel. I would offer to drive so that they could happily play, sometimes they accepted, sometimes they declined. My boss' response was: "So far, I've never had any accidents"

    3. Re:All for education, but... by gnick · · Score: 5, Informative

      Without question, the examples you gave are irresponsible. However, the "DriveMode" function on my phone pissed me off bad enough in one swipe for me to kill it.

      Leaving home for someplace I've never been - Mapped it before leaving and checked the recommended route. Got someplace unfamiliar and went to check the map - I was greeted by a "stop light" hand and the caption, "It can wait." I then (while in traffic) had to figure out how to clear the damn DriveMode and set it to leave me the hell alone. This single experience soured me on DriveMode, at least as it's implemented on my phone (AT&T LG Vista).

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    4. Re:All for education, but... by Gription · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Any time you automate an ability you lose that ability." People will never become better at driving as they are less a part of the driving experience then they were even a decade ago.

      This all misses the bigger level of stupidity of a whole NHTSA mandated "new driving-safe mode". How does a smart phone know what seat you are sitting in? If you want to hear a big outcry put the restrictions in place and wait for the passengers in cars, buses, and trains start to whine.with a new driving-safe mode.

      Just dumb, dumb, dumb...

    5. Re:All for education, but... by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      Indeed, we do. The only thing worse than an idiot is a fucking idiot.

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  7. This is not solved with software. by geekmux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The solution here is rather simple. It's called real fucking punishment for the people hurting or killing other humans on the road in incidents where distracted driving was clearly the cause.

    Insurance companies should not cover any costs. The individual should have to. Suspended license for 12 months. On top of that, no US cellular carrier is legally allowed to issue offenders a phone in their name for a period of 6 months.

    Driving while operating cellular devices is already against the law. Enforcement is only effective with actual deterrents. If we had real punishment, we wouldn't have to be going to such extremes as motion-sensitive apps, or trying to figure out how to block the driver and let the precious snowflakes in the other seats continue to feed their cellular addictions.

  8. Re:Screw you, big government! by geekmux · · Score: 2

    If I want to be distracted while driving, that is my right! If I want to look at kiddie porn while texting and receiving fellatio from Ron Paul, that is my right!

    Nothing in the Constitution gives government the right to regulate driving. NOTHING.

    Perhaps it also should be your "right" to pay for 100% of the costs associated with any incident caused by you championing your inalienable right to watch porn while operating 3,000 pounds of steel barrelling 70MPH down a freeway.

    Nothing should require an insurance company to pay for your fuckups. NOTHING.

  9. there are many other distractions. by anthony_greer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before smartphones there were handheld cell phones, radios to be fiddled with, newspapers to be read, makeup to be applied, food to be eaten, and children in the back seat to be yelled at...all activities being done by people who have come very close to kitting me at one time or another....lets make and enforce law against distracted driving without singling out particular distractions.

  10. Punishments will not solve the problem by sjbe · · Score: 2

    The solution here is rather simple. It's called real fucking punishment for the people hurting or killing other humans on the road in incidents where distracted driving was clearly the cause.

    If you want to see how effective this is you merely need to look at drunk driving laws. It would have some effect but it wouldn't eliminate the problem. It also doesn't bring back to life the people that were killed by those who chose to behave irresponsibly.

    The only solution that would actually work would be to basically restrict ALL phones in a car that is determined to be driving on a road automatically with no user option to override. This is technologically feasible. Yes this is an (overly?) harsh solution but realistically it's the only thing that would actually work. Depending on people to do it voluntarily is wishful thinking and demonstrably doesn't work. Depending on after the fact punishment doesn't bring back to life the people who were killed.

  11. So you can still receive calls? by houghi · · Score: 2

    I thought it was not not allowed to use the aparatus at all. This would mean that you are now allowed to use it to at least receive calls. So the proposal becomes less strict.

    I am also interested, as will be the rest of the world, how they will know the difference between the driver, the passenger. I am not talking about the owner of the device, I talk about the user of the device.

    I often hand over my phone to the person next in shotgun to find some music they want to listen to, search a restaurant or call friends we are going to pick up. (Most of the time because I am too drunk to handle the phone and driving a get-away car takes up all my concentration, so I don' spill any meth.)

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  12. Re:Passengers would survive by CCarrot · · Score: 2

    I spent most of my early driving years without any sort of mobile phone and not coincidentally 100% of us were not killed by people playing with their phones.

    People playing with their radios, their heaters, their makeup and their dicks were a different story.

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