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Self-Driving Trucks Begin Real-World Tests on Ohio's Highways (cbsnews.com)
An anonymous reader writes:
"A vehicle from self-driving truck maker Otto will travel a 35-mile stretch of U.S. Route 33 on Monday in central Ohio..." reports the Associated Press. The truck "will travel in regular traffic, and a driver in the truck will be positioned to intervene should anything go awry, Department of Transportation spokesman Matt Bruning said Friday, adding that 'safety is obviously No. 1.'"
Ohio sees this route as "a corridor where new technologies can be safely tested in real-life traffic, aided by a fiber-optic cable network and sensor systems slated for installation next year" -- although next week the truck will also start driving on the Ohio Turnpike.
Ohio sees this route as "a corridor where new technologies can be safely tested in real-life traffic, aided by a fiber-optic cable network and sensor systems slated for installation next year" -- although next week the truck will also start driving on the Ohio Turnpike.
The system we already have where vehicles travel only on a very constrained path and little other traffic is allowed.
All traffic is under the control of a central authority too.
-- Trains --
Since the self driving tech for trucks is at least an order of magnitude or two simpler for fair weather freeway driving than real city driving it's likely it will be implemented there first. You could probably cut the workforce in half or even more by employing drivers only at depots located next to freeways to ferry them the last mile or two within the city. Even between cities in bad weather but that will likely will become automated soon enough. It could potentially eliminate 1.5 to even 2.5 million jobs within 5 years if done this way. Probably will bankrupt every truck stop along major freeways costing another 200k jobs.
On the bright side thus should employ a few tens of thousands to perhaps even 50k skilled H1-B workers. If anyone can think of how these people will find employment I'd be interested to know as I can't seem to think of how it is gonna happen.
In 2014 there were 1.8 million truck drivers. Average pay was $40K. That's damn good money for a job that doesn't even require a high school education.
Those people are fuuuuuucked. More fucked than any other industry. More fucked than buggy-whip makers. More fucked than coal miners. In 1980 there were only 230,000 coal miners. Over the last 30 years that's dropped by about 150,000 jobs. But once the they get a working retrofit kit for trucks that are already on the road, the trucking industry is going to shed 90% of their drivers in less than decade.
And all the ancillary businesses that depend on truckers, like truckstop restaurants and convenience stores, even hookers, they are are fucked too.
These guys are going to react very poorly to this inevitable future. If Trump's election scared you, get ready from somebody 10x worse when this plays out.
Obviously not a union member.
The biggest campaigning error Clinton made was focusing too much on Trump's personal character and not enough countering the "outsiders took your jobs" angle that Trump used.
Automation is a bigger threat to blue-collar jobs than outsiders or allegedly bad trade deals, and her retraining plans were thus more rational.
In the end, people vote their pocket book more than candidate character. The election wasn't about pussy grabbing nor being dodgy with email, but job loss.
Trump made a powerful emotional appeal to turn back the clock, and Clinton needed to hammer home the message that those jobs are NOT coming back and that her retraining plans had a better chance helping jobs.
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The party of personal responsibility doesn't do anything but suck corporate wang.
Screw that. They are just "skills challenged". We'll just train them to be coders.
I, for one, welcome our new self-driving truck overlords.
FTFY
You are welcome on my lawn.
If the incoming administration is as hell bent on bottom lines and profit as any good CEO is this will be a reality in 4 years.
It's not like we elected Clinton after all. We managed to elect someone substantially less Ferengi.
The truckers are the kind of people who voted for Trump so he would be less inclined to hasty adoption of tech to replace truck drivers.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You're in need of remedial reading lessons.
I never said progress was happening in those fields.
As a matter of fact the nepotism we see so often in artistic fields is a major cause of stagnation there too.
I am personally far less inclined to watch a movie if the offspring of a celebrity is in it. Hate that.
high school graduates who have been coasting through life thinking their whiteness entitles them to a middle class lifestyle are toast. The number of jobs they're intellectually capable of performing is set to dwindle.
I can say the same thing about anyone with a (whatever) "studies" degree. Making coffee's pretty easy to automate.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Her big fuck-up was basing her entire campaign on the premise that anyone who didn't support her already was an idiot/bigot/misogynist/etc.
Attacking your opponent is expected. Attacking your opponent's supporters is bloody stupid.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
It is funny how Trump pied-piper blue-collars about bringing jobs back, when he and his coven are for eliminating the minimum wage, privatizing Social Security, raising the retirement age to 70 or higher...
... and replacing truckers with bots they don't have to pay.
To take a person used to a carefree life on the road and stick them in a cubicle. Thats cruel and unusual punishment
**Life is too short to be serious**
facial recognition cameras
One bearded hobo pretty much looks like every other one, plus many of the hipsters.
Have gnu, will travel.
Trump attacked women, Muslims, Mexicans, short people, fat people, crippled people, etc. Thus, your logic fails here.
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and then the jail / prison will feed and board me + they have the DR that does a lot more then the ones at the ER do when you have no way to pay.
The biggest campaigning error Clinton made was focusing too much on Trump's personal character and not enough countering the "outsiders took your jobs" angle that Trump used.
Automation is a bigger threat to blue-collar jobs than outsiders or allegedly bad trade deals, and her retraining plans were thus more rational.
In the end, people vote their pocket book more than candidate character. The election wasn't about pussy grabbing nor being dodgy with email, but job loss.
Trump made a powerful emotional appeal to turn back the clock, and Clinton needed to hammer home the message that those jobs are NOT coming back and that her retraining plans had a better chance helping jobs.
The "poorly educated" want villeins to rail against and quick easy fixes, not the cold hard truth and plans that require time and sacrifice. Trump gave them both with his blatant lies. The only way to beat Trump was to lie even more then him and its doubtful if that's even possible
Are they prepared to be invaded by no-name autonomous Linux laptops, making their own way from cab to cab in the self-driving truck standby row, interfacing with trucks who are away from the watchful gaze of their corporate mainframes? Self-driving trucks going rogue and snarfing up flash drives full of ones and zeroes smuggled in from Mexico?
Especially taxis, they should be remotely monitored. I am pretty sure they will need that unless they are cool with people puking or worse in the cab. I mean one person should be able to monitor 3 or 4 vehicles at the same time. Since this may incur a high cellular data cost, it can just send stills every 3 seconds uness realtime video conferencing is needed.
Trucks too should be remotely monitored.
You completely misunderstand how things actually work. A few kids out of 350 million people get shot by some crazy idiot who should never have been on the streets, "we need new gun laws"; one child gets run over, "we need to replace drivers"; a few aircraft are found to have vulnerable cockpits, and no one can ever get on a plane again without ridiculous, expensive security theater (as opposed to actually solving the problem by hardening the cockpits, a one-time cost that doesn't screw your liberties over.) Etc.
Laws aren't a product of sane, reasonable thinking due to science and statistics. Laws are all about pandering, and pandering depends on getting the mommies to feel protective. All it takes is a corporate agenda -- some profit-making scheme -- to push the legislators where they need to go.
Basically, for love of money and re-election, congress creates panics to push a particular corporate agenda; that works, and the corporations get their way, the congresscritters get re-elected, and all is well with the world. From their lofty perspective, anyway.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
There are no Drumpf supporters who are not bigots, not stupid, or not misogynist.
Want another Trump term? Just keep on sneering at the people you need to convince to change sides, dumbass.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Yes he did, and Hillary attacked Bernie's supporters. Which of them is stupider?
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Perhaps, but maybe not a difference maker if both do it. A wash. It's like exaggerating, almost all politicians do it such that it's often not a difference maker.
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I guess you don't realize how unbelievably bigoted and racist you sound. Do you say the same the same thing about farmers and laborers from other countries who are immigrating here?
You do realize we are importing people by the millions who, according to you, are intellectually incapable to cope in the modern workplace.
What do you propose we do about this?
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
Or these self-driving trucks would have to be able to cope with human-driven trucks blocking all lanes of the freeway in protest.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"Attacking your opponent's supporters is bloody stupid"
Doesn't seem to have hurt the GOP who've been doing that as long as I can remember and I remember when Nixon got elected
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
If that were true, Trump would not have won.
To take a person used to a carefree life on the road and stick them in a cubicle. Thats cruel and unusual punishment
A carefree life of sitting in a glass and steel walled box, staring out a screen, unable to get out of your chair, unable to even take your hands off the wheel, for hours on end, even closing your eyes for 10 seconds could cause death. A trip to the bathroom costs 30 minutes and requires planing and a review of its impact on a successful project.
If you thought botnets of WebCams were bad, wait till you have botnets of hacked self driving vehicles. Sounds like something out of Stephen King!
And Ransomeware galore.
The mind boggles at what Organized Crime or Immigration 'Coyotes' can do with a fleet of hacked self driving vehicles.
Does no one else see this? I feel like Will Smith in 'i Robot', "Now we have Robots building robots. Wonderful!"
"And then you need to fix it." Or, you know, continue voting in ways that you don't approve of.
The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't true. A LOT of Trump supporters are exactly those things. Just because Trump won doesn't make that just go away.
True, but the people who are like that know it and don't care or even are proud, while those that aren't are just going to be upset they are being poked with a stick by the other side which will just increase their resolve. While yelling such may be emotionally gratifying, it isn't going to help the cause any. Same goes for Republicans calling Democrats all sorts of names. Calling once side stereotypes just reinforces the non-stereotypes that the other side are the real stereotypes.