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Julian Assange Could Be Time's 'Person Of The Year', And Is Also Still Not Dead (time.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader cstacy noticed Saturday that Julian Assange hadn't made any communications or public appearances in six weeks. But today an anonymous reader writes: Julian Assange is still not dead, reports The Inquisitr, noting "the WikiLeaks founder made his first appearance in weeks, speaking with an interviewer for a conference in Beirut" including comments about the recent death of Fidel Castro.

Assange is also in the running to be chosen as "Person of the Year" in Time magazine's annual online reader's poll, and last Monday even moved briefly into first place, inching past Donald Trump. "It's worth noting that the poll presents people alphabetically," Time reported, "so Assange is the first option participants consider and Trump comes near the end of the poll."

I think the poll's being hacked by state actors, since Vladimir Putin now leads with 38%, followed by Theresa May (16%) and North Korea leader Kim Jong Un (13%), and Donald Trump is locked in a tie for fourth place with India Prime Minister Narendra Modi at 9%. Time worked with Opentopic and IBM's Watson to assemble the initial list for reader's votes, which also included Apple CEO Tim Cook and FBI director James Comey. Surprisingly, a few celebrities also turned up on the list too, including comedian Samantha Bee, Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda, and Olympic gymnast Simone Biles.

145 comments

  1. All Republicans and Trump backers by amightywind · · Score: 0

    owe Mr. Assange a debt of gratitude for Wikileak's sabotage of Hillary Klinton's campaign. Well done.

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    1. Re: All Republicans and Trump backers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killary Klinton

      -FTFY

    2. Re:All Republicans and Trump backers by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Nah.

      No one paid any attention to those emails.

      This election was a blindside by poll-shy angry, bored, under-educated white women.

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    3. Re: All Republicans and Trump backers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      College educated quite women were a tremendous help in getting Trump elected as well. While they were more likely to vote for Clinton, her advantage over Trump was only 6 points - 51 to 45.

    4. Re:All Republicans and Trump backers by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      I know quite a few women (northern AZ) who voted for Donald of Orange, and overwhelmingly they were local business owners - the same demographic who have historically supported previous Republicans.

      As to the point of your Grauniad article, once Democrats allowed their own base minorities to be as viciously anti-white as they wanted, it nullified the whole racism/sexism issue for the rest of the voters. The thinking around here was, "They don't care? Then neither do we!"

    5. Re:All Republicans and Trump backers by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Arizona was not a swing state.

      RTFL I gave you.

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    6. Re:All Republicans and Trump backers by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Arizona was not a swing state.

      Give us a pitcher of margaritas, and you'd be surprised.

    7. Re:All Republicans and Trump backers by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I know quite a few women (northern AZ) who voted for Donald of Orange, and overwhelmingly they were local business owners - the same demographic who have historically supported previous Republicans.

      Which is quite hilarious, as A) he was running as a non-"previous" Republican, and B) in his business life always acted hostile towards local business owners. But hey - once you find one "good" reason to vote Trump, you can ignore all the bad ones, because sooooo huge.

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  2. Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by poll by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not by an online poll at the very least.

    This is a reader poll. It's a different thing and like any other internet poll it means very little.

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  3. Who could be happier? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    No one is happier that Donald Trump won the election, including Mr. Trump himself.
    For Assange, it literally might have been a life-or-death matter: she wanted to kill him (at least, that's how he perceived it). If anyone sponsored the email hacking, it was probably him.

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    1. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Assange doesn't have the funds and probably also not the influence.
      In any case, the whole "russians are hacking us" is mostly paranoia.

    2. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (at least, that's how he perceived it)

      How else is he supposed to take someone saying 'can't we just drone him'?

    3. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For Assange, it literally might have been a life-or-death matter: she wanted to kill him (at least, that's how he perceived it).

      For Assange, everything is a life and death matter. Assange thinks everyone wants to kill him. Oddly enough, in quite a few cases he's right - just not the ones he thinks (don't come back to Australia, Julian. We haven't forgotten).

      That Time Magazine would choose Assange as Person of the Year says a lot about 2016, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is a rumor that he started.

      (Shrill voice) "Pay attention to me!" - Rik Mayall, "The Young Ones"

    4. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (at least, that's how he perceived it)

      How else is he supposed to take someone saying 'can't we just drone him'?

      Sarcastically? Ironically? Hyperbole? With a sense of humor?

      Few sociopaths understand humor.

    5. Re:Who could be happier? by rectalfeeding · · Score: 2

      (at least, that's how he perceived it)

      How else is he supposed to take someone saying 'can't we just drone him'?

      Sarcastically? Ironically? Hyperbole? With a sense of humor?

      Few sociopaths understand humor.

      If the United States had held the moral high ground on assassination tactics outside of declared war, then yeah, maybe it could be taken as a joke. OTOH government agents have a differing duty when it comes to such important use of words. Even if Assange rationally accepted that it was 97% likely to be a joke, he might estimate that under that probability umbrella he might expected to be treated with all the respect that Manning has been given. In which case, same difference. I'd do to you what Hillary would do to Assange if she could if I could. Sweet Dreams.

    6. Re:Who could be happier? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      As meaning 'she wanted to send him a drone to play w/ as a gift'. The same way as her dream of seeing a hemisphere w/o borders was about energy grids, not people, that way

    7. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And what did Manning do to earn any respect from the US military and civil agencies? He should have tried to introduce his fragile mental health to bolster his defense.

      And Assange has voluntarily put himself in prison for the last 4 years with no end in sight. If he ever enters a court room in Europe or the US he should definitely use his mental health as part of his defense. Assange and Manning are both the victims of their own stupidity. I guess this also applies to Snowden. Can anyone tell me why he did not go public until he was living in a country willing to shelter him? Nobody was chasing him before he went public? He is probably getting a little nervous about Russia turning him over to US as a good will gesture for the incoming government. Russia didn't give him asylum because they agreed with his actions they gave him asylum to annoy the US authorities. But now Putin really needs some of the sanctions imposed on his government and handing over Snowden may trigger some sanctions relief.

    8. Re: Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Manning was immensely heroic and did a great public service. It's largely because of her that US forces are careful to no longer kill large numbers of civilians.

      Assange was a hero, might still be a bit of a hero but is also an immense twat.

    9. Re:Who could be happier? by moeinvt · · Score: 1

      "Can anyone tell me why [Snowden] did not go public until he was living in a country willing to shelter him?"

      That's not true. He was in Hong Kong when he began sharing the documents with journalists. He didn't know if they would be willing to shelter him and as it turned out, they probably wouldn't have done so. He got out of there with the help of people from Wikileaks. Even then, there was no guarantee that Russia would shelter him. That's why he spent weeks in the Moscow airport before finally being granted asylum.

      As far as "going public", it was Glenn Greenwald and other people in the media who began releasing the information to the public. Snowden never released anything directly to the public.

    10. Re:Who could be happier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what did Manning do to earn any respect from the US military and civil agencies?

      https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9923387&cid=53369023

      'collateral murder'. Tens of thousands of uncounted civilian casualties in the aforementioned wars until Manning and Assange revealed the secret counts kept from the public.

  4. Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Trump is always in the news either because of his own scandalous mouthing (or thumbing) off or because of his haters' constant hate and prejudices. He basically won the highest position on Earth by being in the news all the time.

    With his "influence", he already killed the TPP as a side-effect of not yet taking office and he moved the powerful USD up and down for the past 6 months.

    Maybe undisclosed "Russian hackers" can be runner up..

    1. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Not just that, Ford canned plans to move out of Louisville, KY, and Castro, who had survived 10 US presidents, couldn't even wait for this one! Trump's very aura killed him }:-)

    2. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2

      As much as the leftist media hates Trump, they were completely unable to shut up about him all year long. I was worried the word "TRUMP" would be burned into my TV screen from flipping to the CNN story title. Their incessant coverage probably put him over the finish line.

    3. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Castro, who had survived 10 US presidents, couldn't even wait for this one! Trump's very aura killed him }:-)

      Hahaha

      He should take credit just for laughs.

    4. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      It will be surprising if it isn't Trump.

      Clinton, Obama and Bush were all selected after they were first elected. Trump has been at least as newsworthy as them this year.

    5. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      It will be surprising if it isn't Trump. Clinton, Obama and Bush were all selected after they were first elected. Trump has been at least as newsworthy as them this year.

      And imagine when the Electoral College elects somebody else...

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    6. Re:Trump has to be #1 (unless they hate him) by Maritz · · Score: 1

      It's cute that americans think they have 'leftist' media. You don't. And yes, their incessant coverage of Trump is what got him elected. Future elections will basically be a race to see who is the biggest freak.

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  5. Thanks TIME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for lowering the bar even further, human garbage all over the world can now realistically aspire to be your man of the year.

    1. Re:Thanks TIME by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Hey, this isn't 1938, you know...

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    2. Re:Thanks TIME by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Uh, they achieved that a while back. Osama was their MOTY in 2001.

  6. "I think" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wtf slash dot. aggregate the news, it is not your responsibility to add misinformation by adding in what you think. either find out the facts or just report on the news. Shit like that makes this place just as bad as any trashy tabloid.

    Did you ever think that because the poll is on a website that just about anyone could vote, that doesn't mean that it could be hacked and you have no proof of this.

  7. BTW by tylersoze · · Score: 1

    Hitler was also named man of the year. It's not about who was the "best" person of the year just the most influential.

    1. Re:BTW by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      When Trump wins Man of the Year, expect that a bunch of idiots will equate the two.

    2. Re:BTW by tylersoze · · Score: 1

      Yeah pretty much every president since WW2 has been named Person of the Year at least once.

    3. Re:BTW by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      When Trump wins Man of the Year, expect that a bunch of idiots will equate the two.

      Well, he does make the comparison pretty easy.

      http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/...

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    4. Re:BTW by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      Woah... Trump and Hitler mentioned in the same thread, and without being a Godwin. I looked back to see if that was true (it is), and as it turns out, Stalin was also person of the year. Twice, in fact: 1939 and 1942. Another historic note, from Wikipedia:

      Since the list began, every serving President of the United States has been a Person of the Year at least once with the exceptions of Calvin Coolidge, in office at time of the first issue

      Like or loathe him, it's hard to argue that Trump hasn't been one of the most influential people of the year.

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    5. Re:BTW by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Doh. I didn't copy the entire Wikipedia quote. Here's the rest:

      ... Herbert Hoover, the next U.S. president, and Gerald Ford.

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    6. Re:BTW by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't worry, we know. You're still pining for Hillary, hate to break it to you but she lost. Maybe you can pine on Obama a bit more and his peace prize, and all the wars he's started.

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    7. Re:BTW by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Hitler was also named man of the year. It's not about who was the "best" person of the year just the most influential.

      Yeah, but Time went all P.C. several years ago with their sections. Note that Rudolph Giuliani, mayor of NYC, was named Person of the year in 2001 because of the WTC attacks, when obviously Bin Laden himself was more influential.

    8. Re:BTW by ras · · Score: 1

      Like or loathe him, it's hard to argue that Trump hasn't been one of the most influential people of the year.

      In what way? The only thing I can think of is blowing an extraordinary amount of hot air. Extraordinary is in italics because he's US politician in an election year, so a very high bar has been set by his co-competitors in the hot air stakes. Yet he didn't get just beat them. He clobbered them so hrd they still don't know quite what happened. It was an amazing performance. It's what got him elected and deservedly so.

      But influential? He's done nothing beyond telling us what he is going to do. Given that changes day by day to the point of being self contradictory I don't see how anybody could overly influenced by the literal meaning of the words. The underlying message that appealed to the voters must have worked at a much deeper level than specific promises. I've seen many articles theorising on what that message might have been, but few agree and none are convincing. I struggle with the idea that an entire nation could be influenced by an idea nobody can describe. So far his main influence is hold us spellbound, waiting and wondering what his first concrete moves will be.

      If he really does jail Clinton, build a wall across Mexico and whatever else he has promised, then yes he will deserve the "person of year award". Probably "man of the century" as well, when the time comes. ("man" because this "person" crap is another piece of unnecessary PC that needs fixing and if he delivers on even 1/2 his promises he's just the man to fix it).

    9. Re:BTW by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      He's done nothing beyond telling us what he is going to do.

      As opposed to Obama, who won a Nobel Peace Prize just for getting elected?

      US Presidents, or even US President-elects are, almost by definition, extremely influential people. I'd say that this campaign has been unlike any I've ever seen, between two of the most polarizing candidates I could imagine, and the *most* polarizing candidate actually won, despite the incredible amount of baggage he had.

      By the way, Hillary certainly would have properly been Person of the Year had she been elected. I think it's more a statement on this particularly brutal election cycle than of Trump himself.

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    10. Re:BTW by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      "man" because this "person" crap is another piece of unnecessary PC

      No it isn't. If you're awarding a 'man of the year' award, doesn't it sound strange to give it to a woman? Isn't that because the word man, means male? What's wrong with wanting to name an award that's open equally to men and women, without resorting to calling it "man or woman of the year"?

    11. Re:BTW by brantondaveperson · · Score: 1

      I don't know if that's PC, or just self preservation. I think that if Time had named Bin Laden as person of the year, they would have had their offices firebombed. More than once.

    12. Re:BTW by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      "man" because this "person" crap is another piece of unnecessary PC

      No it isn't. If you're awarding a 'man of the year' award, doesn't it sound strange to give it to a woman? Isn't that because the word man, means male? What's wrong with wanting to name an award that's open equally to men and women, without resorting to calling it "man or woman of the year"?

      And that's ignoring the winner of 1982. Spoiler: The Computer.

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    13. Re:BTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how do you function in daily life with that level of ignorance?

    14. Re:BTW by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Maybe you can pine on Obama a bit more and his peace prize, and all the wars he's started.

      Eh? Obama has not started any wars... I get your point though, he has not exactly earned the peace prize. He changed nothing concerning America's war stance.

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    15. Re:BTW by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Eh? Obama has not started any wars...

      Really? So he didn't launch weapons at Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria. Gotcha. Those aren't wars, they're just lobbing of high-explosive munitions for the purposes of dirt farming.

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    16. Re: BTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those are not wars. Furthermore, that activity was started before he ever entered office. I don't care about Obama, I only care about accuracy. You stated he started wars. He did not.

      I agree with your thesis: Aforementioned politician does not deserve peace prize.

    17. Re:BTW by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      When Trump wins Man of the Year, expect that a bunch of idiots will equate the two.

      Some of his supporters already do. So yeah. Idiots.

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  8. Better choice by Kohath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nigel Farage

    1. Re:Better choice by unixisc · · Score: 1

      As an achievement, it was as big. Except that in the aftermath of that, there was genuine uncertainty, and a court ruling that Parliament has to ratify that has put roadblocks on the way, which may or may not be surmounted. Whereas Trump's election is a fait-accompli - even if a recount overturns WI and MI, it can't overturn PA: this is more a stunt by Jill Stein to make money, since she is under no obligation to return any donations if the recount is not accepted/approved.

    2. Re:Better choice by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      He will only accept if he gets paid in currency other than sterling.

    3. Re:Better choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Given how he stepped back rather than stepped up after brexit I think he definitely does not belong on the list. He is more of a animal in headlights and seems to have thought "Oh fuck I didn't think you would actually vote for it" and hence had no plans or thought on implementation beyond his slogans.

    4. Re:Better choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course.

      20 years of tireless sledging culminating in an historic personal victory. There are few single issue people who achieve their goal.

      Held a billion are effected by that work. And then there's his support for Trump. Another 300m.

      If you're counting pure influence, Farage definitely made a mark.

  9. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 3, Informative

    Indeed. He already won a prior reader poll, and Time chose someone else. There's no reason to think they won't do the same this time as well.

  10. I propose by youngone · · Score: 2
    Ivan Vicelich should be man of the year

    Also everyone should come to my apartment to see my cats.

    1. Re:I propose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your apartment stinks of poly-grip and cat pee!

      (Futurama reference)

    2. Re:I propose by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Also everyone should come to my apartment to see my cats.

      Can't you put pictures of them, maybe even videos, on your facebook?

  11. Big whoop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Big whoop, I was Time's Person of the Year 2006. Didn't mean a thing.

  12. "Hacked by state actors" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez ..... Stop being retarded.

  13. Donald Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate him or love him...he's the person of the year.

  14. Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by zedaroca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the poll's being hacked by state actors, since Vladimir Putin now leads with 38%, followed by Theresa May (16%) and North Korea leader Kim Jong Un (13%),

    Then realized it was part of the summary, so probably not a joke.
    The editors in Slashdot are really pushing on the (Russian) state actors hacking tale. Why would state actors act on Times' online poll? If they did, why would they put up these results?

    Times' poll was hacked by 4chan before. Kim Jong Un won in 2012 thanks to them, the magazine just discarded the results.

    1. Re:Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think you give 4chan a bit too much credit there at the end.

    2. Re:Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Times' poll was hacked by 4chan before. Kim Jong Un won in 2012 thanks to them, the magazine just discarded the results.

      No, no it wasn't. Typical garbage coming out of a clickbait site. Time records votes by cookie, delete the cookie and you can vote again. Some online polls have gotten better requiring more then that like tying to a IP for X number of hours. What the fuck has happened to /. when people can't tell the difference between actual hacks, and simple reset/deletion/temporary-allow scripts that you can write in greasemonkey.

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    3. Re:Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot editors don't put jokes in summaries? Wow, have I been reading it wrong all these years.

    4. Re:Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      They had famously done it in a previous year to give the site's founder the win, while also manipulating the top 20 results to apparently spell out some meme.

      It doesn't really matter what country the bored young adults doing this are from. I highly doubt fucking with a useless online poll is on the radar for Russian state actors. If anything it's people who would like you to think it's Russian state actors because they'd find it more amusing that way or independent hackers from Russia that are just trying to dick wave in front of the international community.

    5. Re:Was about to mod +1 funny when I read... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Times' poll was hacked by 4chan before. Kim Jong Un won in 2012 thanks to them, the magazine just discarded the results.

      No, no it wasn't. Typical garbage coming out of a clickbait site. Time records votes by cookie, delete the cookie and you can vote again. Some online polls have gotten better requiring more then that like tying to a IP for X number of hours. What the fuck has happened to /. when people can't tell the difference between actual hacks, and simple reset/deletion/temporary-allow scripts that you can write in greasemonkey.

      Irony: Stop them if they're wrong, but be damned sure they're wrong. If you're going around the original intent and repurposing a thing to your ends instead of the original ones, you're hacking. What they didn't do was crack the poll or hack into the poll. But they most certainly did hack the poll.

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  15. no to bogus votes by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    They're not going to have another bogus vote again this year I hope.

  16. People by dohzer · · Score: 1

    Why don't they do something radical. Make the person of the year a group of people.
    Or even better, make it the readers!
    Or something that isn't a person at all. Like an internet server or something. Genius!

    1. Re:People by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I bought a Server in Nook's shop on Animal Crossing today.

    2. Re:People by gachunt · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be the first time they chose a group of people: Ebola fighters (2014), Protester (2011), You (2006)

      This year, it could be "The Protectionist Voter" -- which covers both Brexit and election of Trump.

  17. OP:I think the poll's being hacked by state actors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. If you can't construct a sentence, I'm not sure you should be airing your views on more complex issues.

    2. Someone took a coworker's Bologna sandwiches from the staff fridge. I told them it was very likely state actors, as I munched down on a delicious Bologna sandwich.

    3. Boaty McBoatface

  18. More fake news by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 1

    The story says it's a poll of online READERS.

    I find it hard to believe that Time still has readers.

  19. And furthermore by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Assange doesn't have the funds and probably also not the influence.
    In any case, the whole "russians are hacking us" is mostly paranoia.

    "Mostly" is being generous.

    Assange took the unprecedented step to say specifically "it was not the Russians". He has stated that they never reveal their sources, so to go that far (eliminating Russia gives information about the actual source) he probably felt the fear-mongering was a prelude to a declaration of war, or at least minor hostility.

    (And to be fair, it sure looked, at the time, that America was ginning up for a fight with Russia.)

    And as for Clinton wanting to kill him, she specifically asked in a meeting "can't we just drone this guy", apparently was not joking, and as a result of the meeting the aides sent her a list of "legal and non-legal strategies" for dealing with assange.

    But then again, this could be fake news. Hillary doesn't remember joking about Assange, and Snopes has the "drone strike" claim listed as "unproven".

    (Note: The "legal and extra-legal" link is to a copy of the actual memo sent to Hillary.)

    1. Re:And furthermore by unixisc · · Score: 2

      If you think that CNN, PBS and NBC are believable, then there is no reason anyone can't do the same for either RT or FNC.

    2. Re:And furthermore by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's the same story from USA Today. In case they're a state-sponsored mouthpiece for Russia or some other government here's the same story from Fortune. I'll leave it up to you to do a quick web search to find dozens of other sites reporting on the story. Even Fox has a version of the story and while they're a mouthpiece, it's not a state-sponsored Russian one.

      Of course you focus on the messenger far too much and ignore the more obvious. What guarantee do we have that Assange is telling the truth or that he is capable of knowing that for a fact. Let's suppose he knows that the leaks came from party X who he has reason to believe isn't involved with the Russian government. He could be legitimately mistaken and Russia could ultimately be the source of the leaks pushed through enough independent channels to hide their involvement. Or it came directly from Russia and he's covering up that fact for his own reasons.

      Unless you're also getting fed the kind of classified information that gives you a better idea of the shape of the world, all we can do is speculate. However, I think a better way to go about that is to look at what's happened since the election and what happens going forward. If we never see any additional email leaks related to Hillary or the DNC going forward it's pretty safe to assume that it was someone who really didn't want them to get elected and since that even has passed, they have no further interest. Even Trump who was heavily on the bandwagon to put Clinton in prison has done a bit of an about face on it. Whether he really ever wanted to or not is immaterial, it was just useful in helping him get votes. However, if over the next year we continue getting more and more leaks, it's probably safer to assume it isn't Russia (or if it really is that they'll try to act in a way as to make it appear less likely that it's them in which case we need more criteria that we don't post to the internet where they can read about it) and is just some hacker doing it because they can or to shake the ant farm a little bit for his or her own amusement.

      Of course there's a whole host of other sources that aren't Russia and it's usually safer to play the field unless you can't legitimately think of anyone else who might have been involved.

    3. Re:And furthermore by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Of course you focus on the messenger far too much and ignore the more obvious.

      Funny thing about that. I posted factual stories about the death threats electoral candidates had received from Trump supporters during the primary, posted factual stories about death threats mosques are receiving from Trump supporters after the election, posted factual stories about the many failings Trump has (businesses, sexual assaults, outright lies), posted factual stories about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and yet oddly, that is exactly what people like you focused on. Not the story itself, but the source.

      Because those stories came from legitimate news sources they were denounced because they came from the "mainstream media". I even posted a link from a non-"mainstream media" source who was adamant that Hillary would win the election because they had it on good authority the election was rigged to show how un-factual non-"mainstream media" are. /. even has had a few recent stories about the fake "news" which has been going around.

      Funny how factual stories, because they come the "mainstream media", are thrown aside, while their factual content is ignored like your claim. So let's play the game. Here is a factual story about the terrorists in Ukraine openly admitting Russian troops are helping them as well as Russia supplying them with arms, munitions and even troops. Let's see how fast all the facts I have posted can be modded down to -1. I give it ten minutes at the most.

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    4. Re:And furthermore by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Interesting

      yet oddly, that is exactly what people like you focused on. Not the story itself, but the source.

      I'd prefer it if you didn't put political leanings in my mouth. I didn't vote for Trump (or Clinton for that matter) but once again you attack the messenger rather than the message. Also, if you're going to complain about the other side doing something (rightly or not) you probably shouldn't also do that thing yourself.

      Also for what it's worth, you probably posted stories that confirm to your biases. It doesn't make you a bad person, actually it just makes you an ordinary person. You probably ignored factual stories that didn't support your preconceived notions or tried to find some reason to ignore them (like wrong messenger) so that your brain didn't have to consider information that conflicts with its existing choice.

      Pretty much everyone (my own self included) does this, but it's not really helpful. It's the same reason why there are some people who wouldn't be convinced of climate change if their dear lord Jeebus himself descended from heaven and told them it was all true. I suspect you'd agree with me that those people are acting rather silly, so wouldn't it be better if we tried not to act like them?

      If you get modded down its probably for going off-topic while essentially trying to rationalize why it's okay for you to attack the messenger, but not those other silly people. You even ended by creating a scenario in which you expect to use any perceived victimization as further proof that you're correct and everyone else is just out to get you. As far as that line of reasoning is concerned both a +5 and -1 moderation support your idea that you're correct. Seems like a rather flawed test does it not?

    5. Re:And furthermore by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      If we never see any additional email leaks related to Hillary or the DNC going forward it's pretty safe to assume that it was someone who really didn't want them to get elected and since that even has passed, they have no further interest.

      One of the most satisfying outcomes of the recent election is that nobody really cares about Hillary Clinton anymore.

    6. Re:And furthermore by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Here's the same story from USA Today. In case they're a state-sponsored mouthpiece for Russia or some other government here's the same story from Fortune. I'll leave it up to you to do a quick web search to find dozens of other sites reporting on the story. Even Fox has a version of the story and while they're a mouthpiece, it's not a state-sponsored Russian one.

      I can show you hundreds of stories telling us that CNN aired 30 minutes of porn - and yet it hasn't happened. And just like those are all based on just one "fake news" tweet, your "other" sources are all based on that one exclusive RT interview.

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    7. Re:And furthermore by Avarist · · Score: 1

      I never understood how people could easily fall for the obvious misinformation that Trump was Putin's favourite and Clinton somehow hated him. You didn't actually listen to him and believed him, did you? Clinton is the one who has a very cosy relationship with Putin and is only publicly puting up a front.

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    8. Re:And furthermore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [rt.com]

      You're kidding, right?

      So the Russian state owned media organization has assured you that Russia had nothing to do with the leaks.

      Idiot.

    9. Re:And furthermore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both of your purported independent sources are quoting the interview given to RT on 11/3 as a primary source for their articles.

    10. Re:And furthermore by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      PBS's reputation is far better than RT's.
      NBC is 'ok,' but has taken a number of self-inflicted hits, and they shoot themselves in the foot year after year.
      CNN is circling the drain, and no one can figure out why it's still around, just like Radio Shack.

    11. Re:And furthermore by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      I really wanted both Clinton AND Trump to fade into obscurity. Eight months ago, I knew we were doomed.

    12. Re:And furthermore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "never see any additional email leaks related to Hillary or the DNC going forward"
      WikiLeaks and the people releasing Snowden's documents are political activists who only release information supporting their own political viewpoint. Someone accomplished their goal of stopping Clinton so we will not see any other pieces of information aimed at her. She is now a non-entity so mission accomplished. The people releasing the Snowden documents also only publish information that support their cause. Greenwald has been a rabid anti-US figure for years and will never release any information that contradicts his world view. Out of the millions of documents Snowden collected there is bound to be plenty of evidence that contradicts the anti-US narrative. The documents related to foreign intelligence operations are few in number. There should be a stack of documents describing these programs in detail but none have surfaced yet and we are stuck with a few Power Point slides. Even the timing of the releases have been carefully spread out to keep the people releasing the data in the news. Why don't they release everything and let the public see all the information and form their own opinions? Assange took ownership of Manning's information and was refusing to release the information to other media outlets without conditions. Why do people trust Assange or Greenwald? Why does no one challenge the authenticy of all the documents being published? How hard would it be to modify or create new documents?

  20. Generalissimo Francisco Franco by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    is still dead.

  21. Doctor's offices by HBI · · Score: 1

    Bored people in boring places read Time.

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  22. Audio is not enough for proof of life by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Assange/Wikileaks situation has been a bit weird for the past month, and no strong proof of life has been shown. Going with an audio interview is just going to fuel all the conspiracy nuts in /r/WhereIsAssange.

  23. IMO, it should be Donald Trump by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

    I dislike him intensely and I think he's a horrible person, but most of us (I believe anyway) didn't think he would win and yet he did.

    Like him or not, disagree with the electoral college or not, he will be the next President.

    I'm not even sure what Modi has done this year to even be in the running (screwed up their current bank note fiasco?)

    Putin, May and Fatty Kim haven't done anything nearly as impressive or shocking as what trump has done - again, just my opinion of course.

    If Brexit were a person eligible for person (thing?) of the year I guess you could make a case for that.

    Or if you want to open it up to Immigrants to Europe or Daesh as "person" of the year, those could also be valid candidates.

    1. Re:IMO, it should be Donald Trump by unixisc · · Score: 2

      If one thinks Brexit is bigger than Trump's election, the award should go to Nigel Farage

  24. "Appearance" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you mean shitty audio and uncharacteristic commentary, then yeah, "he" made and "appearance".

    He has not been seen alive with any evidence since Oct 20th, period end of story.

    1. Re:"Appearance" by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      If you mean shitty audio and uncharacteristic commentary, then yeah, "he" made and "appearance".

      He has not been seen alive with any evidence since Oct 20th, period end of story.

      That was when he hit the boom gate with the sign "MAX. HEADROOM: 2.3 M"

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    2. Re:"Appearance" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And I love, love, l-l-love... love those blip-blip-blip-blipverts!

  25. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by unixisc · · Score: 1, Interesting

    TIME, aside from the usual Lib bias, has a bizarre sense of newsmakers. Last year, they made it Angela Merkel. In 2001, they made it Osama. They'll give it to anyone unless he happens to be a Republican achiever that year. From what I recall, President Bush never got it.

    If the poll is being hacked, good for them! Ideally, it should be Trump, since he had been firing on all cylinders throughout the year, not just since the Dem convention. Wikileaks came into the picture only at the DNC convention, when they exposed the shenanigans of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and subsequently on the Clinton emails. Putin did nothing this year that stood out from any other year - intervention in Syria, while important, doesn't count. (That is an achievement Putin could have claimed in 2013, when the Assad regime stood alone amongst Arab regimes in not collapsing, unlike Egypt, Libya and Tunisia). Teresa May would get it somewhat by fluke, since the real hero of Brexit was Nigel Farage. Kim Jong Un's fireworks displays don't earn it either. And Narendra Modi would have deserved it 2 years ago, when he got elected by the largest ever landslide. He really didn't do much to earn that this year.

  26. Was that on purpose? by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2

    RT? That's what you're using as a source? The state-sponsored mouthpiece for Russia? The "news" organization who only says what Putin tells them?

    I'd take the Fox tabloid over RT any day. At least Fox puts out something truthful once in a while.

    I notice that you don't say the claim is wrong.

    Was that on purpose?

    1. Re:Was that on purpose? by nedlohs · · Score: 0

      Yes he did.

      "At least Fox puts out something truthful once in a while" is clearly a statement contrasting Fox with RT and thus is claiming that RT never puts out something truthful and thus the claim must be false.

      Just like we know McGregor must not have KOed Aldo last year since it must be not be truthful: https://www.rt.com/sport/32580...

  27. Deja Vu - Time ignored the popular vote last time by MrSteveSD · · Score: 1
  28. Corpse of the Year by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Fidel can be corpse of the year.

    Are they going to stuff and mount him, like Lenin and Mao?

  29. Bots for the, bots for me. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    So trump making it the list is a genuine act of voting but Putin making the list is 'state agents'?

    1. Re:Bots for the, bots for me. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So trump making it the list is a genuine act of voting but Putin making the list is 'state agents'?

      It's rigged! The whole election is rigged!

      Er, wait

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  30. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by quenda · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They'll give it to anyone unless he happens to be a Republican achiever that year.

    Achiever? I'm not sure you quite get what the "award" is for. Past "winners" include Hitler, Stalin, and even Henry Kissinger.

    From what I recall, President Bush never got it.

    HW got it, and W twice. You mean Jeb?

  31. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by unixisc · · Score: 1

    By achiever, I mean someone who achieved the most in a given year. Like in 2001, when Osama got it for 9/11, Bush should have gotten it, since he toppled the Taliban by the end of November or mid December. I do stand corrected on his getting it, though.

  32. Alternative hypothesis by Orgasmatron · · Score: 1

    Perhaps Putin is doing well in the polls not because his mythical hackers are doing it, but because we are still in the middle of an 18-month, 10+ billion dollar propaganda campaign that hoped first to prevent a Trump win, and, that having failed, is now spreading the idea that his win was not because of his populist/nationalist message, but the result of Russian hackers.

    If half of the country genuinely believes that Trump's victory was the result of Russian interference, is it surprising really that Putin would do well in a poll of the most influential person of the year?

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    1. Re:Alternative hypothesis by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Obviously the DNC hacks and the fake news campaigns weren't the only factors in his win, but I think it's safe to say that it pushed him over the top. Putin did something nobody would have thought possible, I can see him getting the win.

  33. As If Time would pick Julian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time wont pick Julian. They have no journalistic integrity.

  34. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by quenda · · Score: 1

    Bush should have gotten it, since he toppled the Taliban by the end of November or mid December.

    Does not look like much of an achievement from here. Not that I think any other president would have succeeded in either invasion either. Give the award to GWH Bush for taking intelligent advice to contain and _not_ invade neighbouring Iraq.
        The Taliban is alive and well, held back from Kabul only by an unsustainable flow of cash from the US to local warlords.

  35. Time's Person of Year is not a popularity contest by Solandri · · Score: 1

    It's the selection of which person had the biggest impact on shaping world events for the year. That's why Adolf Hitler was PotY in 1938. Not because Time thought he was a great guy, but because his actions sent shockwaves throughout the world. (Stalin won in 1939 for signing a non-aggression pact with Hitler thus allowing WWII to grow into the behemoth it became, rather than nipping it in the bud with a two-front war against the Nazis.)

    In that respect, Julian Assange is a braindead choice. He goes incoummunicado for 6 weeks and nobody notices - that's how unimportant he is to world events. Putin may be a good choice, especially if you buy into the Russia hacked U.S. election conspiracy. Arguably, he is the ideological figurehead of the current nationalism movement sweeping through many countries. Theresa May is an attempt to give credit/blame for the Brexit vote to a single individual - Brexit was arguably one of if not the biggest shocking event of the year. Kim Jong Un is in the running because he's managed to turn the most recalcitrant, unpredictable country on Earth even more recalcitrant and unpredictable. And while Trump's election was a big deal, he hasn't actually done anything (except win an election), and won't until late January 2017. This isn't the Nobel Peace Prize which you can win just because they think you're going to do big things.

  36. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by alvinrod · · Score: 2

    Bush wouldn't have done any of what he did were it not for Osama, which to me makes Osama a better candidate. Good or evil don't really come into it at all, just the influence the person had on the world.

    I'd probably argue that Trump would be the best candidate this year. If you look at the historical results, there's a pretty strong tendency for newly elected presidents to receive the award as everyone since H.W. Bush received the award the year of their election, and both George W. Bush and Obama received it on reelection as well.

    Actually, in looking at the list of winners on Wikipedia to verify that bit about the former presidents getting it on their election, they list the 2001 winner as Giuliani. While he's not quite as detestable as Osama, he apparently was the PotY for being mayor during 9/11. Really though it should have been bin Laden as you point out as it makes a hell of a lot more sense.

  37. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Osama didn't get person of the year on 2001. It was given to Giuliani.

  38. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by nedlohs · · Score: 1

    You have strong opinions about something you apparently no next to nothing about.

    Osama never got it. Bush got it twice. At least you managed to get Merkel right. 1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess...

    And you really don't think Bush, Bush, Bush, Gingrich, Giuliani, Nixon, Nixon, and Reagan were Republican?

  39. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By achiever, I mean someone who achieved the most in a given year"

    The Time award is not for achievement but for the person or thing that has most influenced the news in a particular year.
    That, unquestionably, for this year is Donald Trump

  40. Re:Time's Person of Year is not a popularity conte by nedlohs · · Score: 1

    And while Trump's election was a big deal, he hasn't actually done anything (except win an election), and won't until late January 2017. This isn't the Nobel Peace Prize which you can win just because they think you're going to do big things.

    For the last 20 years just winning the US Presidential election was enough to get it. There have only been 4 occassions since 1964 that the newly elected President wasn't given it, and on all of those occasions that person got it the year before or during that term... It is an American publication after all.

  41. Access requires sycophancy. by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Time magazine, being mainstream American corporate media, would do well to give Trump the nod in order to try and get into his good graces and thus increase the odds of access. Paraphrasing CBS' Les Moonves who told the audience at the Morgan Stanley Technology, Media, and Telecom Conference, such a move would not be good for America, but it could be very good for Time Magazine.

    1. Re:Access requires sycophancy. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I don't know, New York Times hasn't been very pro-Trump, but they managed to get an interview somehow.

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    2. Re:Access requires sycophancy. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Time magazine, being mainstream American corporate media, would do well to give Trump the nod in order to try and get into his good graces and thus increase the odds of access.

      You mean in the same way they made Hitler the Man Of The Year. Yeah, makes sense.

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    3. Re:Access requires sycophancy. by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Trump realises that there's no benefit to holding a grudge, and a lot of benefit to getting his message out there. I don't think he's really going to do this as a reward for the media.

  42. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

    They don't give it to the person who "achieved" the most. They give it to the person they believe to be the most influential. That's why Osama Bin-Laden got it.

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  43. Hmmm by LagFlag · · Score: 2

    Julian Assange Could Be Time's 'Person Of The Year', And Is Also Still Not Dead

    Perhaps Time know something we don't...

  44. the rural/suburban white male by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 1

    That would cover Brexit and Trump winning the US election.

    You could say the "working white male" if you want to try to avoid some hot wires.

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  45. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bush should have gotten it, since he toppled the Taliban by the end of November or mid December. I do stand corrected on his getting it, though.

    The Taliban that is currently fighting against ISIS?
    They don't seem very toppled.

  46. I'm OK with republicans not getting awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're filthy rich anyway.

  47. Tick tock... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both Assange and Snowden have outlived their usefulness, and the puppeteers pulling their strings don't want any blowback. If they aren't already on your dead pool list they should be.

  48. He is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The news that he isn't is fake news.

    Real news: see here

  49. It's not such a big thing by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    Loads of people have been selected in the past.

    Hell, I won it in 2006.

  50. Re:Time's Person of Year is not a popularity conte by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    And while Trump's election was a big deal, he hasn't actually done anything (except win an election), and won't until late January 2017. This isn't the Nobel Peace Prize which you can win just because they think you're going to do big things.

    For the last 20 years just winning the US Presidential election was enough to get it. There have only been 4 occassions since 1964 that the newly elected President wasn't given it, and on all of those occasions that person got it the year before or during that term... It is an American publication after all.

    Well, they certainly will name Trump POTY next year, after his assassination by one of his disappointed voters because he ran America into the ground again.

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  51. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Considering previous winners (Hitler) and the current roster of candidates, why don't they just call it Cunt of the Year?

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  52. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    By achiever, I mean someone who achieved the most in a given year. Like in 2001, when Osama got it for 9/11, Bush should have gotten it, since he toppled the Taliban by the end of November or mid December.

    Actually, Rudolph Giuliani got it in 2001. Dubya the year before. Osama never did. Thanks for trying.

    Oh BTW, the Taliban are still doing their thing. Mission accomplished.

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  53. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

    By achiever, I mean someone who achieved the most in a given year"

    The Time award is not for achievement but for the person or thing that has most influenced the news in a particular year. That, unquestionably, for this year is Donald Trump

    Or Putin - he did influence the news about Trump.

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  54. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Considering previous winners (Hitler) and the current roster of candidates, why don't they just call it Cunt of the Year?

    IOW Trump.

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  55. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

    "By achiever, I mean someone who achieved the most in a given year. Like in 2001, when Osama got it for 9/11, Bush should have gotten it, since he toppled the Taliban by the end of November or mid December. I do stand corrected on his getting it, though."

    Fake news. Osama never got chosen. 2001 Man of the Year was Giuliani. W was man of the year twice, in 2000 and 2004, same number as Obama and Clinton (2-term presidents) and one more than Bush Sr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year#Persons_of_the_Year) Not that it matters. Maybe you should leave your Republican biases at the door.

  56. both men are dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i believe both snowden and assange to be dead , their appearances are digitally faked. There has been no real proof that they are still alive. only "digital" proof which is all to easy to fabricate or fake.

  57. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Nigel Farrage or the mad Brexiteers (Gove and Johnson). They were the first to prove that post-truth politics can work and adopted it for their winning campaigns. Trump is just a more bombastic imitation.

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  58. Voting block by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am just glad white voters banded together and voted as a block. It shows you what is still possible in this country.

  59. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I don't get it, was Osama Bin Laden involved in some giant event that had world wide ramifications in 2001 or something? And yeah, I totally agree Bush should have gotten it, with his completely unprovoked, out of the blue, totally unrelated to anything Osama Bin Laden did, toppling of the Taliban...

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  60. It's all rigged... by gachunt · · Score: 1

    ... unless Trump is named Man of the Year.

  61. Ugh by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    While I don't think Assange is a criminal or should be thrown in prison, by many accounts a slimeball, so hopefully not person of the year.

    If anyone it should Snowden. Though I see in looking at the list the "Whistleblowers" won in 2002 so perhaps they think that might be a duplication.

    I'd not be surprised if it is Trump. Certainly the most newsworthy of 2016 anyway, won when no one apparently thought he would.

  62. Other sources that aren't Russia by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    Like Seth Rich?

  63. Re:Time's Person of Year is not a popularity conte by Shimbo · · Score: 1

    Theresa May is an attempt to give credit/blame for the Brexit vote to a single individual

    Hardly, she was on the losing side. She just didn't campaign strongly enough to alienate leavers.

  64. "Person of the Year" isn't "Best ..." by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Thanks TIME ... for lowering the bar even further, human garbage all over the world can now realistically aspire to be your man of the year.

    Time's "Person of the Year" isn't "BEST Person of the Year". It's "MOST INFLUENTIAL ON THE WORLD Person of the Year". That's why people like Castro get it.

    Time has pointed this out LOTS of times.

    IMHO Assange is a good candidate for THIS year. Trump did a lot of shaking things up, too - but mainly by being elected. As with Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, it's a bit early. I'm sure he'll have more effect on the world once he's ACTUALLY BEEN INAUGURATED and has been yanking the levers of power for most of a year.

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    1. Re:"Person of the Year" isn't "Best ..." by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      IMHO Assange is a good candidate for THIS year.

      Why? He only played a minor part in this whole Clinton Email Kerfuffle.

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  65. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We won the war in Afghanistan? Better tell the guys who are dying there 15 years later. I'm sure they'll be happy to get the good news.

  66. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Rakarra · · Score: 1

    Osama SHOULD have gotten it for 2001 -- no one else had such an affect on world affairs, certainly not Bush, and absolutely not the winner that year, Rudy Giuliani.

  67. Re:Time's "Person of the Year" is not chosen by po by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What universe are you from? Rudolph Giuliani got it in 2001.