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Social Media Is Killing Discourse Because It's Too Much Like TV (technologyreview.com)
Reader Joe_NoOne writes: Like TV, social media now increasingly entertains us, and even more so than television it amplifies our existing beliefs and habits. It makes us feel more than think, and it comforts more than challenges. The result is a deeply fragmented society, driven by emotions, and radicalized by lack of contact and challenge from outside. This is why Oxford Dictionaries designated "post-truth" as the word of 2016: an adjective "relating to circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than emotional appeals." Traditional television still entails some degree of surprise. What you see on television news is still picked by human curators, and even though it must be entertaining to qualify as worthy of expensive production, it is still likely to challenge some of our opinions (emotions, that is). Social media, in contrast, uses algorithms to encourage comfort and complaisance, since its entire business model is built upon maximizing the time users spend inside of it. Who would like to hang around in a place where everyone seems to be negative, mean, and disapproving? The outcome is a proliferation of emotions, a radicalization of those emotions, and a fragmented society. This is way more dangerous for the idea of democracy founded on the notion of informed participation. Now what can be done? Certainly the explanation for Trump's rise cannot be reduced to a technology- or media-centered argument. The phenomenon is rooted in more than that; media or technology cannot create; they can merely twist, divert, or disrupt. Without the growing inequality, shrinking middle class, jobs threatened by globalization, etc. there would be no Trump or Berlusconi or Brexit. But we need to stop thinking that any evolution of technology is natural and inevitable and therefore good. For one thing, we need more text than videos in order to remain rational animals. Typography, as Postman describes, is in essence much more capable of communicating complex messages that provoke thinking. This means we should write and read more, link more often, and watch less television and fewer videos -- and spend less time on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
It's not because it's like TV; it's because people are idiots. Social media gives them an outlet they otherwise would not have.
Hilter won in the German Federal elections is 1932, long before "Social Media." Whenever you have large and long-standing Economic Disruption in a society, Social Strife and Political Upheaval seem nearly inevitable
The business model of TV is also built upon "maximizing the time users spend inside of it". Millennials need to stop trying to think. They aren't good at it.
The big difference is that TV has to create something the maximizes the average time of all their users so it has to create something relatively generic that will appeal to a large cross section. Facebook doesn't have this limitation. It can custom tailor its drug to the individual user. Every time a person "likes" something on facebook, facebook can now show them more of what they like and less of what they don't like. Facebook is the perfect echo chamber. Add in VR and you have the perfect escape from reality where you customize your virtual world to be exactly how you want it just like the addicts in movies like "Strange Days" or "Inception".
I almost wish Hillary had won if it meant less of this inane soul-searching about social media. Could you make all the same arguments if she had been elected?
Sure. But the clearly liberal-leaning hucksters pushing these stories would hopefully be doing something else. Or maybe they would be pushing stories about the profound good that social media had on the outcome of the election.
Okay, I take it back. That would be worse.
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TV shows no longer reflect real life. Every show has to be what libs perceive as PC, a certain number of gays, diverse ethnic backgrounds, even transgenders are showing up. Audiences do not like having this distorted version of reality shoved down their throats.
ROFL. LOL. That is what passes for discourse.
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While not too bad for social things, it brings out the worst when exploited for political reasons, keeping a whole group of people of the verge of "outrage" nearly continuously.
Social media, and thanks for giving us a working definition so we know where you're coming from, is an extension of traditional media. The same problem exists there.
If there was a way to make money off of honest discourse of political and social issues, someone would have already done so. The unhappy truth is that it is very hard to do so. So TFA's ranting against algorithms and such is ranting against television programming and development. It's just not easy to get eyeballs on honest issues because most of us don't like it. We don't like being made to feel bad about something we had little to nothing to do with. We don't like being confronted by a reality that we didn't make but are forced to take part of all the same. We don't like being told to eat our vegetables, essentially.
Given how it has been put together over the past two and a half centuries, American democracy isn't simply advanced citizenship. It's advanced everything. The requirements for participation has got to the point where you have to be on 100% of the time to even have a slight chance at understanding what's going on. There's no simplifying that in a twenty two minute nightly news report.
And that's the real problem. We need people to be participating now more than ever. But we don't want to create the sort of nation it would take for that to happen. It's hard. We've solved a lot of problems over the years. Hunger and disease are starting to look like we can actually do it. This? Organizing ourselves? This has always been at the bottom of the list of things to get done. Which is probably part of the reason we see the people that get into it, get into it. It's the last thing most people want to think about at the end of their long work day. Guess what? That doesn't make it any easier to resolve.
It is all the fault of those pansies, the liberals, who unlike rational, logical, rugged, and manly, conservatives always let their emotions out.
Thin skin isn't just a symptom of the left. There's plenty on the right too. The real problem is that there's an entire generation of snowflakes out there that whine and cry over things like Halloween costumes and them being "racist or sexist." Or get so upset that they need to run off to rooms with colouring books and pictures of puppies because someone dared to disagree with them. The worst cases are the ones that defend restricting speech because it hurts their feelings, or claim that disagreement is harassment. The disagreement is harassment bit is a hallmark of the current progressive snowflake bubble(or SJW if you prefer).
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Of course, you're only talking to people that already agree with you. People who disagree with you are walking away, unsubscribing, etc. just like you've been doing to them.
When you share your message with millions, you start to think that you're really making a difference; like you're really doing a lot to spread your ideas. Of course, you're only sharing your message with people who have already heard it, and already agree.
That racist idiot shouting nonsense on street to passers by is, possibly, reaching more people from his street corner than than the average social media user can from inside their echo chamber.
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I'd say that post-truth is worse than lying by omission. Usually lies by omission still have a grain of truth in them. "Post-Truth" statements seem to be made up out of pure fantasy and the people repeating them don't seem to care if they are true or not, just that they sound like they might be true. Did Hillary really kill five people by hand and drink their blood? Who cares if it's true or not? If a person thinks it kind of sounds like something she might do, they will repeat it as if it were 100% proven true. Their audience will do the same and before you know it, Photoshopped images of Hillary with blood dripping down her mouth will be circulating as "proof" of the claim. Meanwhile other people who are saying "this isn't true and here's the proof" will be either ignored or shouted down as being pawns of the "liberal elite media coverup."
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I remember when I first saw how people behaved on MySpace. Then when FB started to get big, and in the intervening years with Twitter, I really was able to "Grok", or intuitively understand how this platform would affect people. I saw it with friends and family. I saw it with the recent election.
/. has, it is an infinitely more interesting place than FB.
I am continually vindicated in my choice to have never joined one of those "social networks", with the exception of LinkedIn, which I rarely log into or look at.
Some of the problems I have noticed with social networks, and primarily FB:
1. A "keeping up with Jones" type of fakery, where people are always trying to make themselves seem "larger than life"
2. A constant barrage of crap, whether cat videos, political rants or very unimportant status updates about how great a cup of coffee someone just drank was.
3. Very little of any interesting, intelligent or thoughtful discourse(See Number 2.)
4. A huge waste of time, in addition to all the other things in the modern digital world we have to deal with and respond to.
5. Fake News(and yes, this isn't some new "revelation" after Trump got elected. It's been going on for a while...)
6. Echo chamber and group thinking.
For all the acrimony and debatism that
We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
So are you wrong about the meaning of post-truth or are you saying that Trump is an SJW?
Trump supporters and SJWs are both post-truth. They may be political opposites (one conservative, the other liberal), but neither side has much interest in truth.
When both sides of mainstream politics abandon truth, we are truly living a post-truth society.
SJW's scream racism and misogyny so quickly and so easily that they have enabled actual racists and actual misogynists. They shouted down anyone who either used a mildly crude expression, passed on a bad bill that somehow was tied to an SJW interest, failed to renounce some other figure who they deemed badpolitic. They rage against everything from blatant rape to some very shady/everyone-was-guilty date rape cases, to the point where heterosexual men became afraid that there but for the grace of God, they have not yet ended up in prison for women they had sex with. Even mildly insinuating that you have moral or religious issues with homosexuality gets you branded a homophobe and recidivist.
Meanwhile the mainstream person, who may not share their particular zealotry but has what the majority may consider a reasonable view on these topics, become increasingly distrustful of anyone yelling these words out. Now, the Orange Enemy, himself labelled as a misogynist for things I personally think were mostly gross exercises of poor judgement and bad character, but not necessarily misogyny, is appointing people, and those words are being yelled, and we're really not sure if they are truth or just more shrill voices from the lunatic fringe.
That's another example of post-truth, devaluing statements to the point where truth doesn't have meaning.
We are all tribal, even when we hate tribalism. We've just convinced ourselves that we aren't tribal, even while we are still practicing tribalism.
Instead of tribes being built around clans of families, we now use our Echo Chambers as our clan identity. We use our "sports teams" as tribal identity. We use our employment, our politics, our social interests and isolate ourselves away from anyone too "different" from us. We are all tribal.
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