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Fake News Prompts Gunman To 'Self-Investigate' Pizza Parlor (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: A rifle-wielding North Carolina man was arrested Sunday in Washington, DC for carrying his weapon into a pizzeria that sits at the center of the fake news conspiracy theory known as "Pizzagate," authorities said Monday. DC's Metropolitan Police Department said it had arrested 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch on allegations of assault with a dangerous weapon. "During a post arrest interview this evening, the suspect revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate 'Pizza Gate' (a fictitious online conspiracy theory," the agency said in a statement. "Pizzagate" concerns a baseless conspiracy theory about a secret pedophile group, the Comet Ping Pong restaurant, and Hillary Clinton's campaign chief, John Podesta. The Pizzagate conspiracy names Comet Ping Pong as the secret headquarters of a non-existent child sex-trafficking ring run by Clinton and members of her inner circle. James Alefantis, the restaurant's owner, said he has received hundreds of death threats. According to Buzzfeed, the Pizzagate theory is believed to have been fostered by a white supremacist's tweets, the 4chan message board, Reddit, Donald Trump supporters, and right-wing blogs. The day before Thanksgiving, Reddit banned a "Pizzagate" conspiracy board from the site because of a policy about posting personal information of others. Alefantis, the pizzeria's owner, told CNN, "What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories comes with consequences. I hope that those involved in fanning these flames will take a moment to contemplate what happened here today, and stop promoting these falsehoods right away."
The guy showing up at a pizza restaurant with a gun to "investigate it" is a retard, but this case is yet another entry in the list of things that has been bugging me about the "fake news" thing.
Why are we calling this "fake" news instead of "incorrect news" or "wrong news" or "wacko conspiracy theory"? My guess is that deep down, the people that are pushing back against what they call "fake" news doesn't care about truth or falsehood, only the messenger.
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
The problem with conspiracy "theories" is there's usually a smidgen of truth to them such that the gullible and true believers will believe it without a second thought to any veracity.
One can see all kinds of nutjob whackery over the 9/11 attacks, the most notable being "fuel can't melt steel beams". Which is true, the fire from jet fuel can't melt steel beams but what it can do is weaken the steel such that all the weight it's supporting causes the beam to warp. This has been shown in recent accidents involving fuel trucks running into bridges where the steel beams sag and give way.
At least if these folks would latch on to something not posing as a government conspiracy, such as when Trump was married to Marla Maples, had an affair and forced the woman to have an abortion, they might be taken a bit more seriously.
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The problem is that Jon Stewart was literally the most trusted name in news despite being a comedic take on current events. If that's the best the fourth estate has, of course democracy is going to fail.
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James Alefantis isn't just a restaurant owner, he's the former gay lover of David Brock, and listed as one of the 50 most powerful people in Washington. Podesta and Clinton have used Alefantis' pizza parlor for political events. I think the rumors of a pedophilia ring come from a combination of the Podestas' bizarre taste in art (in particular, an artist called Biljana Djurdjevic, Alefantis' Instagram, and the odd set of bands performing at Coment Ping Pong. There were also odd references to pizza, dungeons, and children in Podesta's leaked E-mails.
Of course, none of that justifies showing up with a gun at Alefantis' restaurant. Furthermore, there seems to be no evidence of a pedophile ring. On the other hand, these seem to be some pretty weird people with some pretty weird tastes and pretty weird social relations.
There IS something weird on those emails.
But people are jumping on too much conclusions or being pushed into too much conclusions.
I bet its something boring like regular corruption.
People who actually believe it are in the minority and are simpletons or mentally ill.
Sadly I know a guy who really full-on believes this... and that Roswell was real, 9/11 was faked and a bunch of other conspiracies. Wouldn't be surprised if he believes in chemtrails and owns a tin foil hat either. But he's pretty good with words and is neither retarded nor obviously crazy. It's like he's just decided the world is a sham, we're all puppets dancing according to some agenda and that warps his perception of everything else. It's like he's just waiting for Morpheus to show up and offer him the red pill. Even if you manage to push back and disprove one little bit of his ramblings it's like okay maybe that was wrong but the other 99.9% is still on.
It reminds me of some of those otherwise seemingly functional people who've been in ordinary jobs but end up fixed on some crazy idea that a Nigerian prince is offering them money or that they have an online girlfriend they never met who totally loves them and totally lose it. Many of these don't fit the "simpletons or mentally ill" who could never hold down a job profile. I saw someone else here mention Ben Carson, brain surgeon but thinks ancient aliens built the pyramids. No matter how smart you are, you see what you want to see. You believe what you want to believe. Then you use your brains to wrap reality around your beliefs, not the other way around.
That's how you end up with scientists with a religion full of facts science has refuted. It turns out people don't have to have one coherent set of thoughts. We actually live quite well doing a day job and believing in the first woman was made from a rib bone at the same time. It's just that for some the last kind of "facts" take over and consume them, to the point where they can't accept reality as reality anymore. Mainstream media (MSM) is fiction, my alt-news is reality. Mainstream medicine is fiction, my homeopathy is reality. And Internet is the greatest boon to alternate realitys ever, here they all meet to agree on how right they are. Most are pretty harmless though.
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"Trump nominated a ONE OF THE TOP NEUROSURGEONS IN THE WORLD AND A GUY WHO IS DAMN SIGHT SMARTER THAN I AM who thinks dietary supplements can cure cancer, AIDS and multiple sclerosis to be the next Secretary of Housing and Urban Development." FTFY
A: He didn't nominate him for surgeon general
B: Remember Pellagra, Beriberi, Scurvy, Rickets etc? Probably not because no one in developed countries gets them because they are all easily cured by vitamins. Cancer and MS both potentially have features that behave similarly to a vitamin deficiency, but until we understand what chemical compound it is and how it works, it seems like trivializing deadly diseases, just like the diseases I mentioned above did to people who lived with those diseases before they were eliminated by vitamins.
http://listverse.com/2012/03/1...
Also, the cure for cancer is at least in part based on the Hunza mountain people who live an average of 120 plus years and do not get cancer. Ever. Their tribe likely was the real life seed of truth behind the legend of Shangri-La an earthly paradise where people live forever. Why they don't get cancer is what everyone wants to know and the jury is still out, but you can't argue with their lifespans. The problem with cancer at least in part is it appears that the diet of your entire life plays a key role in when or if you will get it, so testing a potential vitamin cure is problematic at best.
http://www.shughal.com/health-...
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Violent crime is down significantly from the 1970s. How does that jive with your theory?
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