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Falsely Accused Movie Pirate Deserves $17K Compensation, Court Says (torrentfreak.com)

An Oregon District Court has sided with a wrongfully accused man who was sued for allegedly downloading a pirated copy of the Adam Sandler movie "The Cobbler." According to the court's recommendations, reports TorrentFreak, the man is entitled to more than $17,000 in compensation as the result of the filmmakers "overaggressive" and "unreasonable" tactics. From the article: The defendant in question, Thomas Gonzales, operates an adult foster care home where several people had access to the Internet. The filmmakers were aware of this and during a hearing their counsel admitted that any guest could have downloaded the film. [...] "The Court finds that once Plaintiff learned that the alleged infringement was taking place at an adult group care home at which Gonzales did not reside, Plaintiff's continued pursuit of Gonzales for copyright infringement was objectively unreasonable," Judge Beckerman ruled. "The Court shares Gonzales' concern that Plaintiff is motivated, at least in large part, by extracting large settlements from individual consumers prior to any meaningful litigation. "On balance, the Court has concerns about the motivation behind Plaintiff's overaggressive litigation of this case and other cases, and that factor weighs in favor of fee shifting."

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  1. $17K by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't sound sufficiently punitive to me.

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    1. Re:$17K by captaindomon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a great precedent, though. If every falsely accused person went for damages of $17k, it would quickly alter the landscape for these studios.

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    2. Re:$17K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The damages would have been quite higher if they could have proven he actually watched that terrible movie.

    3. Re:$17K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Doesn't sound sufficiently punitive to me.

      I agree, I didn't see in the article what "large settlement" they were trying to extort from him. And since he obviously didn't pay the extortion they were doubtless suing for a ridiculous "Hollywood accounting" amount. The defendant's settlement should be at least three times that amount PLUS his attorney fees. There is plenty of precedent for this in law, passing a bad check makes you liable for three times the amount for example.

    4. Re:$17K by parkinglot777 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Doesn't sound sufficiently punitive to me.

      The defendant did NOT ask for punitive damage but only the rewards which are expenses that the defendant had to pay out of pocket during the litigation.

      *** From the court document ***
      Gonzales has filed a motion for an award of costs and attorney’s fees. (Def.’s Mot. Att’y Fees, ECF No. 47.) Specifically, Gonzales seeks $264.60 in costs and $17,222.40 in attorney’s fees, for successfully defending Plaintiff’s contributory infringement claim.

    5. Re:$17K by parkinglot777 · · Score: 2

      The standard for showing that the person was falsely accused is pretty high, however... if he had resided at the location in question instead of simply being the operator of the facility, it probably wouldn't have gone the way it did.

      May or may not be different. The reason is that the plaintiff only use IP address to identify that there is an illegal download of the movie. The Internet in the place is shared, so the plaintiff will have to do a lot more due diligent (more expenses and time) in order to find the right person. If the plaintiff ever found a person, the case would be completely different when filing (much stronger evidence)...

    6. Re:$17K by mark-t · · Score: 4, Informative

      That wasn't what happened, however. The court determined that it was unreasonable for the studio to continue to pursue litigation when they knew that the person did not live there (irrespective of whether or not he was innocent), and that is why he was awarded damages.

    7. Re:$17K by geekmux · · Score: 2

      This is a great precedent, though. If every falsely accused person went for damages of $17k, it would quickly alter the landscape for these studios.

      From a litigation perspective, they have taken 2,074 steps forward, and one step backward.

      This will do exactly two things to their "landscape"; Jack and Shit.

    8. Re:$17K by theendlessnow · · Score: 2

      Actually it's ok since he got a copy of The Cobbler downloaded too.

  2. Title missing important inverted commas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The title as is implies that the man is a movie pirate and was falsely accused (of something)...

    Or just change it to "Man falsely accused of movie piracy..."

    The actual article does it better, although they added the quotes to 'falsely' too for some unknown reason...: Court: ‘Falsely’ Accused ‘Movie Pirate’ Deserves $17K Compensation

  3. Re:An Adam Sandler movie? by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    Diminished capacity defense.

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  4. More then the movie made... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't $17k more then this movie made?

    1. Re:More then the movie made... by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not really. Adam Sandler movies are basically massive scams where he makes huge profits by selling advertising into the movie, then writes up giant paychecks for himself and all his cronies. No matter how shitty his movies are, the Adam Sandler business is basically self-sustaining.

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    2. Re:More then the movie made... by dbIII · · Score: 2

      How you recover from that level of a flop I have no idea.

      It's written off as part of a portfolio of other losses to avoid paying tax.


      On a funny note the original "Mad Max" (Road Warrior was the title of the US dub) was financed as part of a tax evasion scheme, which is why the director was allowed full control, and the investors were initially horrified when it started making money. Once it started making a LOT of money they were not so horrified.

    3. Re:More then the movie made... by pjbgravely · · Score: 2

      The movie Mad Max 2, was called the Road Warrior in the US, not Mad Max. As far as I Know only the original movie Mad Max was dubbed for the US.

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  5. falsely accused? how? by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    $17000 is a little absurd considering how many safeguards the industry puts in place to ensure false accusation doesnt occur. For example, does the accused sink, or float in water? is he capable of reading aloud holy scripture? these are valid and important precursors to ever filing a lawsuit for copyright infringement. For example, almost never has anyone accused of copyright infringement been brought before a court to testify after the MPAA has performed the important dunking and crushing under boulder tests to ensure the individuals absolute guilt prior to litigation.

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    1. Re:falsely accused? how? by kwiecmmm · · Score: 2

      No no no. What else floats in water?

      A duck!

      If he weighs as much as a duck he must be guilty!

  6. This is compensation. The punitive part is by raymorris · · Score: 5, Informative

    The current ruling is about *compensation*, not punitive damages. If he wants to file for punitive damages, he's now in a position to file for that. It's two separate things.

  7. Re:Need a change of leadership by TWX · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jack Valenti, who shaped the modern era of the MPAA as its President for 38 years, was not Jewish. His parents were Italian immigrants, so it's fairly likely that he was Catholic.

    On Valenti's stepping-down in 2004, Dan Glickman was made President of the MPAA. He admittedly was Jewish, but he doesn't appear to have changes Valenti's policies too dramatically.

    Glickman left the MPAA in 2010 after only six years, to be replaced by Chuck Dodd, who is not Jewish.

    So for the last fifty years, someone whose religion can be described as Jewish was the head of the MPAA only 12% of the time. This seems to rather invalidate your argument.

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  8. Slander? by TJHook3r · · Score: 2

    Surely being falsely accused of watching 'The Cobbler' is the bigger crime? The guy may have lost his job and family over crap like that.

  9. Adam Sandler? by dirk · · Score: 4, Funny

    The reason he deserves that much (and maybe more) is because his reputation is totally ruined. People now believe he actually wanted to watch The Cobbler with Adam Sandler and there is no coming back from that.

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  10. Re:without any factual evidence and in criminal ca by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    If you are prosecuted for a crime and found innocent the government doesn't pay your legal fees, ever. There is no cause of action in a criminal trial for compensation for costs by the defendant. These types of damages are only awarded in civil cases.

    You have to bring a separate civil suit against the government for compensation. It's the whole criminal vs. civil trial thing - a criminal trial is one the state brings to you with you being free (not guilty) or jailed (guilty). A civil trial outcome is usually just monetary to make whole.

    As we believe jailing an innocent is very bad, that's why a criminal trial standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt" whereas a civil trial is either "preponderance of evidence" or "reasonable belief" (basically who made the more convincing argument)

    But it's perfectly fine to bring a civil trial to get damages caused by a criminal trial. It's how OJ Simpson was both guilty and not-guilty.

  11. Re:without any factual evidence and in criminal ca by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

    You are conflating two separate issues. No defendant in a criminal trial can sue the government for compensation for actions taken as part of the prosecution even if they are found not guilty by the jury. There are extremely limited situations under which you can legally sue the government and damages from a criminal prosecution are not one of them. Even in cases of gross negligence. You can sue if you were incarcerated for a long period and found innocent but only for lost wages and only in the states that have allowed that (not all have), the Fed's don't allow compensation in such cases.

    The OJ Simpson case did not involve OJ suing anyone for his prosecution, OJ was sued by his victims relatives in civil court even though he was found not guilty in a criminal trial. This is a totally different thing than a defendant suing the government for prosecuting them as the OP stated.