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PwC Sends Legal Threats To Researchers Who Found Critical Security Flaw (zdnet.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ZDNet: A security research firm has released details of a "critical" flaw in a security tool, despite being threatened with legal threats. The advisory said that an attacker could "manipulate accounting documents and financial results, bypass change management controls, and bypass segregation of duties restrictions," which could result in "fraud, theft or manipulation of sensitive data," as well as the "unauthorized payment transactions and transfer of money." An attacker could also add a backdoor to the affected server, the advisory said. The researchers contacted and met with PwC in August to discuss the scope of the flaw. As part of its responsible disclosure policy, the researchers gave PwC three months to fix the flaw before a public advisory would be published. Three days later, the corporate giant responded with legal threats. A portion of the cease-and-desist letter, seen by ZDNet, said that PwC demanded the researchers "not release a security advisory or similar information" relating to the buggy software. The legal threat also said that the researchers are not to "make any public statements or statements to users" of the software. The researchers told PwC that they would publicly disclose their findings once the three-month window expires, which is in line with industry standard disclosure practices. That was when PwC hit the security firm with a second cease-and-desist letter. Undeterred, the researchers released a security advisory a little over two weeks later.

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  1. Streisand effect by TheReaperD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well this company completely missed the memo regarding the Streisand effect. This company obviously thought that using lawyers and burying the truth was cheaper than fixing the problem. Now, not only will they have to fix the problem, their users will be aware of the fact that the company tried to hide it from the users of the software. Talk about damage of trust. This company may also get hammered in court with anti-SLAPP penalties from the company they were threatening. Hopefully, this ends up being a very costly bout of stupidity making the company think twice about doing it again.

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    1. Re:Streisand effect by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Companies like PwC cannot grasp the concept of a earning money and behaving ethically at the same time.
      Many a head must have been scratched in trying to understand why their threats failed. "Did the researchers not understand they were being threatened?". "Why would they do the right thing if it could cost them money?". "It's almost decided to do what would be best for other people instead of themselves.".

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    2. Re:Streisand effect by TheReaperD · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because only the plebs go to prison.

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  2. Re:first by geekmux · · Score: 5, Informative

    Their job? Their job is to make money. Sometimes fixing large scale problems costs money. I guess threating with a law suit is actually closer to "doing their job" than you think.

    Reputation have an impact on the job of making money. So does ethics.

    Perhaps one day failing companies will pull their head out of their lawyers ass and realize that.

  3. Re:Wait a second by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 4, Informative

    FTA: The Researchers first met with PwC in August about this vulnerability. The Advisory was released December 7th. September...October...November... yep. That's three full months since the initial meeting with the only correspondence given by PwC is a series of C&Ds. Not even a "Please don't disclose this yet, we need more time to fix."... I only see this as PwC are the assholes in the equation. Also, second link in the summary is the full advisory without the need for contact info.

  4. Re:Wait a second by Hatechall · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the advisory itself: 19.08.2016 PwC contacted 22.08.2016 Meeting with PwC, informed them about the impact and the details of the vulnerability and responsible disclosure 05.09.2016 Asked PwC about updates and whether a patch is available 13.09.2016 Received a Cease & Desist letter from PwC lawyers 18.11.2016 Informed that 90 days have passed and ESNC is planning to release a security advisory; asked for any details PwC can share about this matter including risk, affected versions, how to obtain a patch 22.11.2016 Received another Cease & Desist letter from PwC lawyers 07.12.2016 Public disclosure

  5. Re:Since when... by haruchai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...are laywers cheaper than developers?

    Or is the Higher Management unable to think in any other way because they are only laywers themselves??

    I worked for a tech firm that was run by a lawyer; when the shit hit the fan during the dotcom meltdown, we found out the only ass that was covered was his.
    While we were scrambling to find new jobs & pay bills, he went off to head up some board filled with other cunts like himself

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  6. "PwC" is Price Waterhouse Coopers by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is apparently some sort of big accounting firm.

  7. Re:first by Shoten · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A larger bit of context here is that this wasn't a business unit that makes hockey pucks. This was a business unit that is involved in cybersecurity. So for them to show ignorance of how things should be done with regard to this...ugh.

    On the other hand, PwC is a partnership organization, not a corporation. As such, a lot of control is decentralized; partners are responsible for the business beneath them and while that responsibility does run upwards, with every step up there's an order of magnitude by which detail is removed. So fundamentally this could be one guy getting his panties in a wad over things.

    But still...he should know better.

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  8. The cost of doing the right thing by sinij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This will likely going to be very expensive for the security researchers, as PricewaterhouseCoopers have deep pockets and a history of shady litigations.

    Assholes like PwC is why most security researchers don't bother with responsbile disclosure. It is by far much safer to anonymously dump it to pastebin.

  9. What really sucks is... by Last_Available_Usern · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is probably a conscientious developer that wanted to work on this the day it was discovered but the company thought the cheaper track was to bury it, and now he's probably going to be fired and implicated as the reason the bug existed, or worse, wasn't patched.

  10. Re:Wait a second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fixed it for you:

    2016-8-19 PwC contacted
    2016-8-22 Meeting with PwC, informed them about the impact and the details
    of the vulnerability and responsible disclosure
    2016-9-5 Asked PwC about updates and whether a patch is available
    2016-9-13 Received a Cease & Desist letter from PwC lawyers
    2016-11-18 Informed that 90 days have passed and ESNC is planning to
    release a security advisory; asked for any details PwC can share about this
    matter including risk, affected versions, how to obtain a patch
    2016-11-22 Received another Cease & Desist letter from PwC lawyers
    2016-12-7 Public disclosure

    Obligatory: https://xkcd.com/1179/

  11. Re:Wait a second by Zephyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just to help you out I've provided a translation for you.

    USA American attention span: 3 lines, 5 words each.

    Canadian American attention span: Moose

    Correction:

    Canadian attention span: 4 lines, 3 defensive pairs, 2 goalies

  12. Re: first by hawguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    pen as in a pen or is that supposed to be short for something?

    Duh, it should be obvious from the context. PwC is an accounting firm. Accounting firms use a lot of pens. It would be ludicrous to give an accountant a non-functional pen, so they have a pen testing division that runs each pen through a battery of tests before they deploy it to an accountant.