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Most Firefox Users Still Running Windows 7 (softpedia.com)

Microsoft is pushing hard for Windows 10 to become the operating system of choice for everyone across the world, but this isn't happening just yet, as Windows 7 keeps dominating the desktop market. From a report on Softpedia: The Firefox Hardware Report published recently by Mozilla shows that Windows 7 is the number one browser for users running the company's browser, with a share of 44.86 percent, followed by Windows 10 with 25.67 percent. Seeing Windows 7 dominating the desktop OS charts is not surprising, but on the other hand, it's living proof that Microsoft will really have a hard time moving users to Windows 10 before 2020 when it reaches end of support. Microsoft's Windows 10, however, already improved substantially since its launch in 2015, mostly thanks to the free upgrade offer targeting Windows 7 and 8.1 users, but this still isn't enough to become the number one choice for PC users.

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  1. Missing the point by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft's Windows 10, however, already improved substantially since its launch in 2015, mostly thanks to the free upgrade offer targeting Windows 7 and 8.1 users, but this still isn't enough to become the number one choice for PC users.

    Quality isn't really a problem for Windows 10 as to why people are not upgrading Windows 7. While some drivers will eventually be updated for Windows 10, some of the "features" like telemetry are the problem. That and how MS forced updates on people involving trickery.

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    1. Re:Missing the point by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That and how MS forced updates on people involving trickery.

      Bingo. The flat-out trickery and subterfuge that was used to force the upgrade on people was the most damning indictment of why people shouldn't upgrade.

      If they have to trick you into doing it, chances are it's not in your best interest.

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    2. Re:Missing the point by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      what happens if they push out a bad update and everybody's machine is out of action for a week?

      You mean like last week?
      I was scratching my head for an hour trying to figure out why my wife's laptop showed it connected to the AP but not the internet. I felt really dumb once I figured it out. Then I read this story and got really mad. All the while happily connected to Steam playing games on my Win 7 desktop running Waterfox (64 bit FF fork). And of course since it took out DHCP there's no way for the average person to connect to get the patch!

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  2. 7 works by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Insightful

    10 sometimes

  3. Re:Kind of consistent, isn't it? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you complain about people using the wheel that has been around for thousands of years too?

    You're under the assumption that the latest SHINY is worth upgrading to.

    I neither want nor need MS spyware.

  4. Still proudly running XP and Firefox! by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of my desktops is a Phenom triple-core I built in 2009. It's kinda underpowered for newer Windows versions so I still have XP (service pack 3) running on it.

    It runs like a champ by the way, still quite snappy. I used to run Google Chrome on it, but some time last year it started spamming me with "Upgrade your windows, Chrome no longer blah blah" message so I uninstalled Chrome and put Firefox on it. Runs great, happy with the setup.

    1. Re:Still proudly running XP and Firefox! by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 4, Funny

      I enjoy running your copy of XP too ;). I have to admit - your old machine is a weak link in my botnet though - especially as everyone else likes using it too.

  5. Re:Kind of consistent, isn't it? by ckatko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's kind of stupid. Windows 8 and 10 offer "almost" no useful features over Windows 7 and have a much less power-user friendly GUI. Every GUI dialog takes twice as long to display, and twice as many clicks to accomplish.

    The ONLY feature of Windows 8/10 that I've noticed I'm missing? Desktop Duplication API which allows fast, user-mode, desktop capture. Why isn't it in Windows 7? Because Microsoft arbitrarily decided to remove it from that version of DirectX/DXGI for Windows 7.

    Great folks.

    And some psychopath backported it to Windows 7.

    https://github.com/rgcjonas/dd...

    And I work in IT and software development, supporting hundreds of Microsoft desktops and servers from XP (and Win server 2003, ugh.) to Windows 10 and use them all regularly. So I'm talking from a position of experience, and not willful blindness.

  6. Re:Kind of consistent, isn't it? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He also assumes that our printers, etc., will have drivers available and we won't need to spend $1000 for the privilage of junking them.

    And ... that all our documents and data files will still be there after an "upgrade". Mine certainly weren't when I tried it. Luckily for me the rollback to Win7 worked or I'd have lost everything.

    (yes, I had a backup, I'm not that stupid)

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  7. Poor 3rd party link by marcle · · Score: 4, Informative

    This link is to a badly written Softpedia article, which has the link to the actual Mozilla report.
    Why couldn 't Slashdot link to the original report? It's very informative.
    The Softpedia article adds no information, and sounds like the writer is a non-native English speaker.

  8. Free Upgrade Offer by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Windows 10: Do not want

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  9. Re:Kind of consistent, isn't it? by thechemic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I couldn't have stated it better than you have here. Windows 10 offers little to no feature, function, or benefit that would motivate Windows 7 users to switch. The only thing I can think of is arguably a better interface for touch screen users. Windows 10 is crippling from an efficiency-of-use perspective. Want to update your system? Try hitting the start button in Windows 10 and type "Windows Update". The search results are ridiculous and there are literally 100s (perhaps 1000s?) of examples of clunky experiences just like this one. Getting Windows 10 to behave properly in an enterprise environment is also a nightmare. We spent weeks tinkering with Group Policies in an effort to make Windows 10 stop spying on the agency, and to stop terrorizing our end-users with frivolous prompts squirting out of every orifice in the user interface.

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  10. Lowest Common Denominator by emil · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft removed the cheesy Aero interface for one reason only: mobile devices could not run it efficiently.

    As Microsoft's mobile strategy has utterly failed, Windows 8 and 10 users are forced into a mobile-friendly UI for no purpose whatsoever.

    The market objects.

  11. Only 77% have Flash? by gQuigs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My biggest surprise is that only 77% have Flash installed. That either means users don't need Flash any more on the desktop or Mozilla has a bigger mobile usage than I think... Either way I think it's good.

    https://metrics.mozilla.com/fi...

  12. Interesting, but not unexpected by Thyamine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People running Firefox are users who are more aware than standard users. They have gone out and downloaded a non-standard (for not tech people) browser and are using it. It makes sense that they are more likely aware of their OS, and what they would want or not want; as well as able to avoid the forced Windows 10 upgrade many techies were forced into.

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  13. Re: Kind of consistent, isn't it? by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yep. I don't need a desktop operating system that serves ads to me. It's bad enough that I get ads served by the default applications that were preloaded on my smartphone, I don't need my computer now doing the same thing.

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