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Most Firefox Users Still Running Windows 7 (softpedia.com)
Microsoft is pushing hard for Windows 10 to become the operating system of choice for everyone across the world, but this isn't happening just yet, as Windows 7 keeps dominating the desktop market. From a report on Softpedia: The Firefox Hardware Report published recently by Mozilla shows that Windows 7 is the number one browser for users running the company's browser, with a share of 44.86 percent, followed by Windows 10 with 25.67 percent. Seeing Windows 7 dominating the desktop OS charts is not surprising, but on the other hand, it's living proof that Microsoft will really have a hard time moving users to Windows 10 before 2020 when it reaches end of support. Microsoft's Windows 10, however, already improved substantially since its launch in 2015, mostly thanks to the free upgrade offer targeting Windows 7 and 8.1 users, but this still isn't enough to become the number one choice for PC users.
Microsoft's Windows 10, however, already improved substantially since its launch in 2015, mostly thanks to the free upgrade offer targeting Windows 7 and 8.1 users, but this still isn't enough to become the number one choice for PC users.
Quality isn't really a problem for Windows 10 as to why people are not upgrading Windows 7. While some drivers will eventually be updated for Windows 10, some of the "features" like telemetry are the problem. That and how MS forced updates on people involving trickery.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
It is far and away better than it was a year and a half ago, but Win 10 still has a ways to go before it is ready for the "it just has to work all the time" workloads of many with demanding workloads. It is stable, but they need to really finish the transition from old to new completely, and add proper GPO management around new features like the Windows Settings app that is replacing control panel a little more with each feature update. Give it another 6 months or so and it will be there I think.
10 sometimes
Do you complain about people using the wheel that has been around for thousands of years too?
You're under the assumption that the latest SHINY is worth upgrading to.
I neither want nor need MS spyware.
One of my desktops is a Phenom triple-core I built in 2009. It's kinda underpowered for newer Windows versions so I still have XP (service pack 3) running on it.
It runs like a champ by the way, still quite snappy. I used to run Google Chrome on it, but some time last year it started spamming me with "Upgrade your windows, Chrome no longer blah blah" message so I uninstalled Chrome and put Firefox on it. Runs great, happy with the setup.
That's kind of stupid. Windows 8 and 10 offer "almost" no useful features over Windows 7 and have a much less power-user friendly GUI. Every GUI dialog takes twice as long to display, and twice as many clicks to accomplish.
The ONLY feature of Windows 8/10 that I've noticed I'm missing? Desktop Duplication API which allows fast, user-mode, desktop capture. Why isn't it in Windows 7? Because Microsoft arbitrarily decided to remove it from that version of DirectX/DXGI for Windows 7.
Great folks.
And some psychopath backported it to Windows 7.
https://github.com/rgcjonas/dd...
And I work in IT and software development, supporting hundreds of Microsoft desktops and servers from XP (and Win server 2003, ugh.) to Windows 10 and use them all regularly. So I'm talking from a position of experience, and not willful blindness.
He also assumes that our printers, etc., will have drivers available and we won't need to spend $1000 for the privilage of junking them.
And ... that all our documents and data files will still be there after an "upgrade". Mine certainly weren't when I tried it. Luckily for me the rollback to Win7 worked or I'd have lost everything.
(yes, I had a backup, I'm not that stupid)
No sig today...
...shows that Windows 7 is the number one browser
Sure thing, Manesh.
I run Firefox on Win7 at work and home. Use Android for the mobile though.
This link is to a badly written Softpedia article, which has the link to the actual Mozilla report.
Why couldn 't Slashdot link to the original report? It's very informative.
The Softpedia article adds no information, and sounds like the writer is a non-native English speaker.
Windows 10: Do not want
Have gnu, will travel.
On my desktop box I use Win 7 and FF, and they work just fine for me; I see no compelling reason to upgrade or change.
I use Linux Mint and FF on my laptop and also see no reason to change anything there.
Not all of us want to spend our lives upgrading stuff or chasing the release or gadget or whatever. Some of us just want to find something that works and use it.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
I couldn't have stated it better than you have here. Windows 10 offers little to no feature, function, or benefit that would motivate Windows 7 users to switch. The only thing I can think of is arguably a better interface for touch screen users. Windows 10 is crippling from an efficiency-of-use perspective. Want to update your system? Try hitting the start button in Windows 10 and type "Windows Update". The search results are ridiculous and there are literally 100s (perhaps 1000s?) of examples of clunky experiences just like this one. Getting Windows 10 to behave properly in an enterprise environment is also a nightmare. We spent weeks tinkering with Group Policies in an effort to make Windows 10 stop spying on the agency, and to stop terrorizing our end-users with frivolous prompts squirting out of every orifice in the user interface.
Let's make like a bird... and get the flock outta here.
Microsoft removed the cheesy Aero interface for one reason only: mobile devices could not run it efficiently.
As Microsoft's mobile strategy has utterly failed, Windows 8 and 10 users are forced into a mobile-friendly UI for no purpose whatsoever.
The market objects.
They better not upgrade to the newest CPUs that will require Windows 10 (or Linux).
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-the-10-biggest-controversies-and-surprises-in-2016/
My biggest surprise is that only 77% have Flash installed. That either means users don't need Flash any more on the desktop or Mozilla has a bigger mobile usage than I think... Either way I think it's good.
https://metrics.mozilla.com/fi...
MS Spyware, Google Analytics, Alexa, and a billion other pieces of tracking out there. Face it, unless you're running everything through a VPN, through TOR, run NoScript, run an adblocker or two, never use any web features that require Javascript, and never reuse usernames then you're being tracked by some entity somewhere. And even TOR isn't a guarantee these days. You don't have privacy on the internet. You never will have privacy on the internet UNLESS you're willing to give up quite a bit of functionality. And honestly, you shouldn't really expect it. The internet isn't some bastion of freedom. It's a series of highly commercial entities who are providing stuff for you in exchange for their being able to market to you OR sell your information to someone else. It's not even about what's fair and equitable - this is simply about capitalism in its finest, unhindered state. You, the end-user, aren't usually the customer - rather you're the resource. You're going to be harvested regardless of your wishes or desires. Meanwhile you stay on an insecure OS and you make it possible for your machine to become a zombie and interrupt MY experience. Don't like it? Well set aside those Libertarian ideas that \. loves so much, boys, only regulation will fix this kind of crap.
People running Firefox are users who are more aware than standard users. They have gone out and downloaded a non-standard (for not tech people) browser and are using it. It makes sense that they are more likely aware of their OS, and what they would want or not want; as well as able to avoid the forced Windows 10 upgrade many techies were forced into.
I will shred my adversaries. Pull their eyes out just enough to turn them towards their mewing, mutilated faces. Illyria
You took your machine to a computer store for idiots to mess with and you didn't make a backup first? Pot, meet kettle.
I wish I still had Vista.
No you don't. Trust me on this one.
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The reason that people are NOT upgrading to Windows 10 especially from Windows 7 are many. It is a multifaceted whole.
All this while still taking an Intel i7-6700 processor and making it perform at the same overall user experience level that Windows 2000 provided on a Pentium II processor.
Don't get me wrong. There are many nice features and advantages to Windows 10. I'm particularly impressed with its seemingly low RAM usage. But I shouldn't have to put an NVMe SSD into an i7-6700 to get the same performance I got years ago.
So after running Vista (wtf1), when you finally decided it's time to an "upgrade", you hand your computer to the idiots at "the computer store" (wtf2) to have them install W10 (wtf3) for you, because what, is it difficult? You didn't back up your files (wtf4) beforehands, or at all in the last 20 years, i suppose.
I know /. is mainstream theses days, but WTF are you doing here?
There's a lot that I like in Windows 10 but there's SO MUCH MORE ASININE FUCKERY that you can't get rid of that just makes it teeth-gratingly irritating to use
Case in point: There's this insidious piece of trash called the Windows Game Bar, fine, cool... cool... how do I rid myself of this unwanted plague? Oh well, simply LOG IN to the Microsoft XBox app and disable it ...but what if you don't have an account? Then make one and log in and then disable it. Riiiiiight
OKAY well lookie here there are some powershell commands you can run to uninstall it, great works, until I plug in my XBox controller or let Windows update run and well ... fuck it's back
OKAY well here's some registry hacking you can do that gets rid of it, nope, keeps coming back.
Just like Cortana - just like a lot of other garbage I don't need nor want.
"So don't run Windows 10" you say... well... you're right. This is how you push a long time Windows fanboy off the cliff you fuckwits. I'm sick of this garbage. I'm sick of not having even the level of control I had with lame duck 8.x (and that's saying something)
Microsoft doesn't understand its consumer-level customers at a fundamental level and that is going to cost them in the long run
Any chance you could publish those policies to github or googledocs?
There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
...except for being MS's ad engine
Yep. I don't need a desktop operating system that serves ads to me. It's bad enough that I get ads served by the default applications that were preloaded on my smartphone, I don't need my computer now doing the same thing.
Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
My migration from Mac to Windows happened because Apple depricated all of my SCSI, ADB and serial peripherals at the same time and if I had to buy all new stuff, it wasn't going to be for a clear plastic Mac.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
Windows 10 won't be popular until it stops restarting without asking users.
"[We'll be] really getting inside your head and making it an unpleasant place to be" -- Trent Reznor
Win10 is not even on my radar. As long as it is loaded with malware and forced updates feature set is irrelevant.
Yes, the internet is everything you describe it as being. However, consumers have the right to opt out of that kind of invasion being done at the OS level of their own computer (particularly if they pay for a license instead of accepting one of MS's first year "beta-ware" freebies). Granted, they'd be better off doing so by not using Windows at all.
Get this, and keep it on your NAS.
https://support.microsoft.com/...
Make America grate again!
And what idiot entrusts a computer store with sensitive data?
Garry Glitter
> You don't have privacy on the internet.
YOU don't have privacy on the internet. People who want it, do. More importantly, the fact that privacy on the internet is harder to come by than it should be, does not in ANY way give justification to Windows 10, which makes you not have privacy on your DESKTOP.
> Well set aside those Libertarian ideas that \. loves so much, boys, only regulation will fix this kind of crap.
Install Linux, problem solved :/