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Uber Admits To Self-driving Car 'Problem' in Bike Lanes As Safety Concerns Mount (theguardian.com)

Uber has admitted that there is a "problem" with the way autonomous vehicles cross bike lanes, raising serious questions about the safety of cyclists days after the company announced it would openly defy California regulators over self-driving vehicles. From a report on The Guardian: An Uber spokeswoman said on Monday that engineers were working to fix a flaw in the programming that advocates feared could have deadly consequences for cyclists. Uber began piloting its self-driving vehicles in its home town of San Francisco last week, despite state officials' declaration that the ride-share company needed special permits to test its technology. On day one, numerous autonomous vehicles -- which have a driver in the front seat who can take control -- were caught running red lights and committing a range of traffic violations. Despite threats of legal action from the department of motor vehicles (DMV) and California's attorney general, Kamala Harris, Uber refused to back down on Friday, claiming its rejection of government authority was "an important issue of principle."

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  1. Re:Driver's license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The city should impound the vehicles.

  2. It only took a self drving car. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It only took a self driving car to point out the bike lanes that should have been designed differently to be safer for cyclists to begin with.

  3. Re:Sensors? by bfpierce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "How long before these run over someone's pet?"

    That happens all the time with regular drivers, so it's not really the point is it?

    If you can prove that these lead to accidents less frequently than a human driver that's an improvement. The goal is not, nor will it ever be, 0 accidents.

  4. Shocking by acoustix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A company who has refused to follow state and city laws for years is ignoring more laws.

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  5. Re:Depends how you look at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cyclists are a scourge that really need to be eradicated.

    I'd say the same thing about Uber.

  6. Re:Depends how you look at it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Make useful bike infrastructure and I'd gladly get out of the way of all the idiot cagers. But until we have that I can't

    And no, sidewalks don't count, they're often illegal to ride on and no where near as ubiquitous as roads. Less than half my commute is covered by them

  7. Re:Depends how you look at it by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is a way for Uber to increase its customer base. If cyclists are unable to ride due to injury, then some percentage of them will start using Uber. It increases revenue, leading to higher profits, executive bonuses, and greater shareholder value. Any executive would ask: what's not to like?

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  8. numerous errors seen by clovis · · Score: 5, Informative

    So I looked at the video in the article
    https://www.theguardian.com/te...

    1) It's a one-way street, and the crosswalk has SIX red lights. one over each lane, two at the sidewalk before and after the crosswalk. How did the sensors miss all those lights? Was it looking at tree and decided "Green? Keep going ..."

    2) There is a pedestrian stepping into the crosswalk and the Uber drove past him. In Ga, all traffic must stop for a pedestrian in a crosswalk, and I'm quite that sure Ca's law is even more strict.

    3) The uber passes a car already stopped for the red light at the crosswalk. I don't know California law, but in Georgia it is also illegal to pass a car stopped for a pedestrian at a crosswalk. It's also common sense - you can't see if the car was stopped for a child/short person/wheelchair attempting to cross, so you should stop first and look second in that situation.

    4) the light turned yellow at the 2 second mark in the video, and the Uber went though at 11 seconds, so it's not even close.

    5) common sense that people have: If I'm coming to an intersection and other cars are stopping, I slow and look around; I know something is happening.
    maybe the light changed while I was dozing, or maybe a passenger is going to open the door in front of me.
    It appears that the Uber lacks this sort of situational awareness, but I don't know if the human was given an alert and ignored it in this case.