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Prepare For Even More Volatile Weather in 2017 (engadget.com)

An anonymous shares a report on Engadget: Ice isn't just great for keeping your drinks cool at parties, it also helps keep our planet cool by reflecting some of the sun's heat away. But thanks to our steadfast refusal to address climate change, there's going to be a lot less ice in the Arctic next year. Scientists are observing record high temperatures in the Arctic circle that's likely to lead to record low levels of ice coverage in 2017. Long story short, we're currently melting the wall that's helped stop the seas boiling for all of these years. Normally, by November, the global temperature has dropped sufficiently that ice can form again in the Arctic ready for the following summer. This year, however, climate scientists saw a spike to -7 celsius (19f) -- 15 degrees celsius (27f) warmer than usual. While the readings have fluctuated since November 11, they're expected to rocket up again in the next few days.

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  1. Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Long story short, we're currently melting the wall that's helped stop the seas boiling for all of these years."

    Yes, that bullshit is what passes for "science" on Slashdot these days and if you dare to point out that bullshit is bullshit you can be blacklisted as an "anti-science" nazi for failing to show proper piety to the religion of Global Warming -- oops I mean "Climate Change".

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    1. Re:Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by slashkitty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. If slashdot is going to venture out of tech space, at least they could do is stick to science. This is just a dumbed down scaremonger piece. It has no place in scientific discussion. (other than maybe to point out what is NOT science)

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    2. Re:Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by Mashiki · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't worry. We already know that there will be no more snow by 2010, the telegraph told us so. Oh, and we're going to run out of food by 1980, and the end of natural gas is here too...courtesy of 1985.

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    3. Re:Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, but our industry should already be dead because sulfur emission controls would have dealt a death blow to it. And these nice salmon tartar? It doesn't exist because fishing quotas have made fisheries extinct. And these damn industry-killing CFC regulations were the cherry on top, because of them we don't have air conditioning anymore.

      Should I continue with the tropes from the other side?

    4. Re:Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      religion of Global Warming -- oops I mean "Climate Change".

      In science, we have this thing called "revising our position based on new evidence and/or new understandings". I know that to someone who believes "everything I know is right, and anything that calls that into question must be wrong" this can seem like a bad thing, but it is actually a good thing. It allowed us to learn that the Earth revolves around the sun, not the other way around. It allowed us to learn that there are in fact things smaller than an atom. It allowed us to learn how traits are inherited from parents to offspring, to learn that maggots do not spontaneously appear from decaying meat, that the continents do move and have been in wildly different locations in the past, and many other things. So please stop trying to claim that people switching from calling it "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" is a bad thing. It just reveals your ginormous ignorance to us.

    5. Re: Anti-science bullshit is the new normal here by Jakune · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In America, that is currently the partisan universe we live in. You can basically bring it up from either with little to no scientific proof or any sort of true data on any topic. And that is what is being done by most, whether it be the politicians, leaders, or the sheeple following those people that call other people sheeple for following someone else. Instead of seeing something on the media "Global Warming is a hoax" or "Global Warming is melting the ice caps" and then looking into it. They just say, this is what fox/cnn/msnbc/cbs/etc says and there for that is what I believe. And to answer the question... Horrible, living in that universe is Horrible and makes me fear the future (Idiocracy anyone?)!

  2. Re:yeah right by Bayoudegradeable · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Haven't been any hurricanes in 10 years? I'm guessing you live in Iowa; hence you didn't see any hurricanes. You are aware that the strongest hurricanes ever observed in the Pacific have been forming regularly? Just because the US hasn't seen a catastrophe doesn't mean "there haven't been any hurricanes for 10 years." This has nothing to do with "politically correct shit." It has to do with science. Don't take my word for it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  3. re: human race wiped out? by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fear-mongering that we're going to successfully wipe ourselves out by not immediately embracing solar or wind energy, or electric cars, or whatever the faux solution-du-jour is ..... That's as much B.S. as this sensationalist garbage that our oceans will begin boiling if the polar ice melts.

    If we succeed in destroying ourselves as a species on Earth, it will probably be with a nuclear war. But even that is a situation that essentially peaked in the 1980's, and nations have taken steps to back-pedal from it since then.

  4. You're not helping by belthize · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stupid ass hyperbole (seas boiling) is not helping.

    Increases in CO2 are real, impacts to global temperature due to CO2 are real, impacts to life (human or otherwise, positive and negative) due to rising temperatures and ocean levels are real.

    Hollywood-esque hyperbole just confuses the issue and makes it trivial to lump all information into the same cesspool of misinformation.

  5. Re:yeah right by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1, Insightful

    the claims after Katrina hit 11 years ago that THE GULF COAST would see hurricane after hurricane, claiming there would be 3, 4, maybe over half a dozen per year

    I just did a Google News search constrained from 8/20/2005 to 9/30/2005 and I couldn't find an article saying that. Can you please link to some?

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  6. Oh good, easier to drill for Arctic oil! by Steve1952 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    On the bright side, no more pesky ice to get in the way of oil rigs. Plus, as an added bonus, once the methane trapped in the frozen Siberia tundra is released, Arctic oil crews can then work outside in shirt sleeves and shorts, even in the winter.

  7. Super sciency lead in by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Ice isn't just great for keeping your drinks cool at parties..."

    Was this written for 3rd-graders?

    Thanks for the credible scientific lead in. I mean, I had NO IDEA that ice was good for anything beyond keeping my drinks cold at parties. And now it turns out it's got something or other to do with the planet? Well I'll be damned. Can't we just go to the mini-mart and buy a few more bags?

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  8. Re:The seas are NOT going to boil. by MindPrison · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They're not lost, they're just selective about their posts and when they answer one. I suspect the reason for this is age and experience. The longer you've been at a party - the better you know your guests, and you know whether it would be futile to participate or just wait until the other who are new to the party finish their little internet-arguments first.

    For the same reason we get older, the older we get, the less we speak, because we know it's in vain unless there's something actually worth contributing with. Been there, done that - ring any bells?

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  9. Much Better Article by turp182 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's only 35F degrees higher than normal in some parts of the Artic.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12...

    Seriously, Engadget for science news?

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  10. Re: human race wiped out? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These days, a degree just means "I agree with the politics of the doctrinal committee"

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  11. Re: human race wiped out? by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If we succeed in destroying ourselves as a species on Earth, it will probably be with a nuclear war. But even that is a situation that essentially peaked in the 1980's, and nations have taken steps to back-pedal from it since then.

    Well, climate change and nuclear war are not necessarily independent. With Himalaya glaciers shrinking, water supply for India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and even China will become a lot less stable. There are 3 billion people in these countries, and 3 of the 4 states already have nuclear weapons. If they start to seriously compete for limited water resources, things may easily become very ugly. There is a reason why China is in Tibet, and why India and Pakistan are fighting a slow war over what currently is an extremely inhospitable ice desert.

    And what do you think will happen to the stability of the region if a few tens of millions of (mostly Muslim) Bangladeshis will be forced to flee into India because sea level rise is going to flood significant parts of the Bengal delta, one of the most fertile and most densely populated areas of the planet?

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