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Unannounced ASUS C302CA-DHM4 Chromebook Hits Newegg, and It Looks Great (betanews.com)

An anonymous reader shares a BetaNews article: If you have been looking for a new Chromebook with some modern specifications and features, I have some good news. An all-new convertible touchscreen ASUS Chromebook has hit Newegg. Apparently, the company has not yet announced the laptop, making it quite the surprise. Called "C302CA-DHM4," it has solid specifications, looks great, and best of all, it is reasonably priced. Also cool is the fact that the Chromebook has a backlit keyboard -- very useful for those that work in the dark. It even features dual USB-C ports (also used for charging), but neither are USB 3.1 Gen 2 -- both are Gen 1, which is essentially the slower USB 3.0. If 64GB of onboard storage isn't enough, you can expand using the microSD card port. Luckily, this ASUS Chromebook comes with 4GB of RAM, which I consider the bare minimum nowadays. While some folks may pooh-pooh the Intel Core m3 processor as underpowered, I disagree -- it is a very capable chip. For Chrome OS in particular, I expect it to be quite nimble.

109 comments

  1. Looks great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Called "C302CA-DHM4," it has solid specifications, looks great...

    This thing looks like a MacBook ... which makes that statement heresy.

  2. "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No one ever has been looking for a Chromebook.
    It's still a mystery how and why they are sold.

    1. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      They are great for schools. The OS is nearly impossible to compromise and they come with a full keyboard unlike an iPad. Plus you can buy two or three for whatever Apple charges.

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    2. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I've been in the market for a Chromebook for my 13 year old son. He uses Google Docs for schoolwork and the new capability of some Chromebooks to run Android apps means that he could do his "Android gaming" on the same laptop. Best of all, it won't break our tight budget. My current front-runner is the Acer Chromebook R11. (The R13 looks much nicer, but is a lot more money.)

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    3. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

      It's more or less a tablet with a touchpad and a proper hardware keyboard.

      I get 10+ hours of battery life from mine, it's light (plus the power supply is tiny), it was inexpensive, I don't have to worry about malware. When I'm visiting family over the holidays, or going somewhere for a couple of days, I don't need a full-blown laptop. I just need something that's a bit more comfortable and ergonomic than a smartphone, for web browsing, e-mail and Youtube videos.

      It's a straight-forward device for straight-forward needs.

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      Eat the rich.
    4. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by kelemvor4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No one ever has been looking for a Chromebook. It's still a mystery how and why they are sold.

      People who don't know anything about computers don't know that these are any different from a regular windows laptop. I know at least one person whose father bought one thinking it was a normal computer.

      For many people, a computer is a web browser and a web browser is a computer.

    5. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

      I picked up the R13 and it was quite nice. TBH, nicer than I expected; first time hands-on with a Chromebook. I was contemplating giving my wife my MacBook Air, which I pretty much just use for surfing and using the CB instead, and desktop for real work. But the CB just didn't do it for me. Even with a different workflow I couldn't get past the lack of the Finder - which admitted isn't the best but it's a desktop and folder structure. I'm old and it's what I'm used to.

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    6. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If your needs are basic productivity software, email, and web, it's a great option. I have two (and not coincidentally I have two kids). You can program Arduino from them, Lego makes Mindstorms software for them, Khan Academy works - even niche stuff like Quirkbots and the USB microscope. When the kids get "virus notifications" from shady web advertisements I can laugh and tell them to ignore it. If it gets Fubar'd (which hasn't happened), give it the secret salute on boot and it wipes it back to factory, reloading all user settings next time you log in. The kids can pick up either Chromebook if one is in use and all their work and settings are just there. This is how home computers should have worked 10 years ago, and it isn't a mystery at all how these are selling so well - especially when you consider the almost-disposable price. For a geek, you will still need a proper laptop/desktop or five - but Chromebooks are fantastic at what they are designed to do.

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    7. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      No one ever has been looking for a Chromebook.

      "No one," Anonymous Coward?

      This thread is full of examples of people who are happy with their Chromebooks.

    8. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are not all priced "disposably".

      Some of their mid and higher end Chromebooks cost as much as full windows laptops. Which to me makes no sense at all. It's not like you will be running Photoshop, CAD and heavy 3d games on them any time in the near future, so the extra specs are wasted (IMHO).

      150-200$ CAD is what this tech is worth (IMHO of course),

    9. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like you will be running Photoshop, CAD and heavy 3d games on them any time in the near future

      Most people wouldn't be running that stuff on their Windows laptops either. Most people just browse the web, pay their bills, watch videos and keep up with their Facebook posts on their laptops. Things which Chromebooks excel at. And the people that occasionally need that one piece of Windows software can just boot up the "old" laptop once a month, and they do.

      Furthermore, even if you consider the size of the CAD, 3d games, and Photoshop markets combined, it is still a small fraction of the entire number of Windows devices in use worldwide. The vast majority of people will have a better, virus-free, maintenance-free, experience on a Chromebook.

    10. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      So why not put ubuntu on a cheap windows laptop and retain the ability to go back?

    11. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by argumentsockpuppet · · Score: 1

      Because it's easier to screw up a Ubuntu install.

      If you're on /., then you're not the target demographic for a chromebook. If you are saddled with one, you'll need five minutes of reading and then you'll put Ubuntu on it or otherwise make it do things no normal human cares about doing. If you want a computer, you care about what you can make it do, not what software comes with it. You're not normal and chromebooks are for normal people.

      Chromebooks are what I'd recommend for nearly all of my family and friends. There are two questions that determine if a chromebook is right for you:

      1. How cheap does it need to be?
      2. How hard should it be to screw up?

      If you're doing work (getting paid) that needs another OS, you're willing to spend extra on something and take the time to prevent and repair messed up systems.

      If you need something cheap, it's hard to get more function than a chromebook gives at the entry price point they offer.

      If you need something really hard to mess up, it's hard, nigh impossible, to get a system much easier to support. Note that I didn't mention the price. Not even the iPhone is as resistant to getting screwed up and Apple has done it well enough to get a monopoly in the grandma market.

      Cheap and easy. That's what matters to 99.9% of the market. The wonder is that Windows and Macs aren't losing even more market share.

      You and I are the exceptions. We're the 1 out of 1,000 who bothers to read tech news. We're the out of a 1,000 who care about things like operating systems. Ask people you meet on the street to describe any difference between operating system kernels or ask them to name four different operating systems and I'd be surprised if you find someone who can do both in 2000 tries.

    12. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I just want to add that the ones with the nice screens also make excellent dumb terminals for remote desktop. That's typically how I work from home.

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    13. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      You are right, there are expensive Chromebooks. I have no idea what the niche is for them or how many they sell. I can only speak to the dirt-cheap ones that clearly have a huge market.

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    14. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      If your needs are basic productivity software, email, and web, it's a great option.

      And if you want it to be a real computer then put Ubuntu on it. 64 GB of flash is plenty, the SD slot just sweetens the deal.

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    15. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google employees are carrying around Chromebooks. Many of us have PhDs in CS from top-10 schools. Windows laptops are obsolete you just don't know it yet because you're living in the 1990's. A Laptop processor is far too slow and clumsy for code development! Chromebook users write network-centric code and compile / bind / run code from the cloud, including very high-end programmers, the people who write the code for Google Search. I know of several people who use low-end $300 chromebooks (Acer c720, HP14) as their work laptops!

    16. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by Cederic · · Score: 2

      A Laptop processor is far too slow and clumsy for code development!

      I think you should name those top-10 schools, so that we can mock the quality of their PhD programmes.

    17. Re:"if you have been looking for a new Chromebook" by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yes, just don't hit the space bar on boot :)

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  3. What? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the fuck are you even babbling about? Chromebooks aren't given away. Unless you browse using TAILS on a read only USB stick you're being tracked somewhere by some ad agency. Get a Chromebook for your parents and you'll never get another tech support phone call.

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    1. Re:What? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 2

      +1000

      I did this about a year ago for my 70 year old parents and now all the calls I get are related to family events rather than tech support. Well worth the few hundred bucks for a 1080p chromebook. They absolutely love it.

    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Below cost? Except for the MS tax I can find comparable Windows laptops. And if ChromeOS is free to the manufacturer, why is Asus selling them below cost? That fails the sniff test and all sorts of logic. And if you hate it so much you can wipe the drive and do everything with your own version of Linux...?

    3. Re:What? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      Google gives away ChromeOS and Android. Chromebooks are sold below their true cost because they are selling YOU.

      And it's nice that for once I'm the one on the receiving end of a subsidy. I own an Acer C720, and I'm running Xubuntu on it, so all of those Chrome users who bought one are responsible for the sweet deal I got on it. :-)

      I wonder how long it will take for somebody to jailbreak this latest Acer so even more Linux users can be subsidzed by Chrome users...

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    4. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All companies do this. You think they don't because they say so? Gullible much?

    5. Re:What? by tepples · · Score: 2

      And if you hate it so much you can wipe the drive and do everything with your own version of Linux...?

      And then the thing will beg you, every time you turn it on, to wipe GNU/Linux and reinstall stock Chrome OS. At "OS verification is off", you can press Ctrl+D to continue booting. But someone else who turns on your developer mode Chromebook is unlikely to know this and will instead press Space as prompted, then press Enter as prompted. The latter begins a wipe, causing you to lose all work that has not yet been pushed to your backup or version control as well as the use of the laptop until you return home where you keep your GNU/Linux reinstall media.

    6. Re: What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just give your parents a lethal injection and don't get another support call. Or just don't return their calls. Fuck you!

    7. Re:What? by rthille · · Score: 1

      My Acer C720 and my ChromeBoxes don't nag me, but then I flashed new firmware on them.

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    8. Re:What? by rthille · · Score: 1

      They still need to make it easier to restrict logins to being just from that chromebook, or require 2FA. My GF's mom is super gullible (lost $40K to phone scammers) and more than once has been convinced to type her Google account password into some other site.

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    9. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not wiping the drive. That's installing Linux in a container within ChromeOS. Which is a fine option but not at all what I suggested.

    10. Re:What? by tepples · · Score: 1

      I thought the owner of a Chromebook still needed to turn off OS verification in order to install and boot Linux-on-bare-hardware on said Chromebook. I admit that I haven't bought a Chromebook myself because of blog posts that I've read about this behavior. Can you link to a page describing how to install Linux-on-bare-hardware that boots without prompting the user to wipe it?

    11. Re:What? by fbobraga · · Score: 0

      Can you link to a page describing how to install Linux-on-bare-hardware that boots without prompting the user to wipe it?

      I will buy it for OVER NINE THOUSAND

    12. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ChromeOS is ported onto new Chromebooks for free. Google participates in the laptop design process and has a set of minimum specifications that any chromebook must meet. Google does not charge for the operating system but they do charge for the management console used to control swarms of Chromebooks in schools. The c720 was originally subsidized by Intel who gave a discount on the Celeron 2955U chips in the original models. Eventually Intel ended the discount which caused Acer to redesign the laptops to save money elsewhere, so there would not be a price increase. That is why you see so many identical model numbers for Acer c720 Chromebooks, i.e. there is a c720-2800 (a 4GB / 32GB model) and there is another c720-2457 (a 4GB / 32GB model), which look identical on the outside and has exactly the same specs but have different motherboards on the inside.

    13. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2FA is available from Google. I work for Google and my dgillies@google.com account requires 2-factor authentication for me to log in. I am pretty sure that all the technologies google uses internally are available to external customers, including 2-factor authentication for Chrome(/OS) Login.

    14. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or install Linux (Ubuntu LTS vanilla or variant) on your parent's machine and don't get a call for 5 years until that LTS release ends. (This is based on a true story!)

    15. Re:What? by rthille · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it (2FA) is not ready for gullible grandmothers (yet).

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  4. Re:Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet chromeOS and android are hung out as examples of how linux is gaining share if not outright winning when counted in number of devices. Sure they may be based on linux but they do not share the philosophy. They are as you say spyware with little to no user control.
    All the complaints about Win10, every last one of them, have applied to 'the new linux' for years. Where do you think MS got the idea?

  5. Re:Backlit Keyboard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I take, "retard who doesn't understand the inconsequential power demand of a few leds for 500 alex". Oh look I found the daily double, Fuck you.

  6. is it really that great? by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 1, Informative

    4 Gig ram, 64 gig SSD, 1080p display, 500 bucks. I'm sorry but most phones come with more storage and a multiple of that resolution. Even as a minimalist tool, a phone alone works better already. When doing serious writing or reading (a high resolution screen is pivotal when reading long, especially with technical documentation) its important to have a decent resolution screen, have a solid keyboard, have a local library and programs (which work also if the internet connection is off and where it is not logged what and how long you are reading what). Paying twice as much but being the master of your data and programs and have a multiply times the storage is well worth it. Actually, it can sometimes be really good to get off the web and concentrate on work alone for a day or two.

    1. Re:is it really that great? by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't care that whether a phone has the same or even higher resolution, as long as it's only ~5" big. 1080p at 5" and 1080p at 13" are two vastly different use cases. And web browsing on a phone is an absolutely horrible experience.

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    2. Re: is it really that great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one will buy it for 500. It's obviously marketed for school parents who don't know better. Look at that nice screen, and hey. It's a $500 dollar laptop for only $300. What's deal....

    3. Re: is it really that great? by Ayanami_R · · Score: 1

      I agree, that's pretty high , especially for a core m3, which is a chip I have tried to like, but it just throttles itself to hell and back under seemingly any small load.

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      "Science is the power of man"
    4. Re:is it really that great? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

      When doing serious writing or reading (a high resolution screen is pivotal when reading long, especially with technical documentation) its important to have a decent resolution screen.

      I disagree. I suspect that you still possess good eyesight in spite of the middle-aged-plus status suggested by your low user ID. I'm not so lucky. I have a 32" monitor with some godawful-high native resolution that makes most things tiny even on that big a screen. I run it at less than its native res, so it's not as sharp as it could be. Lower resolution would be better for me, and I'm far from being the only one in that position. And if you ARE as young as your apparently good vision would indicate, then kindly get off my lawn!

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    5. Re:is it really that great? by Desler · · Score: 1

      I run it at less than its native res, so it's not as sharp as it could be. Lower resolution would be better for me, and I'm far from being the only one in that position.

      Why wouldn't you just run the monitor at a higher DPI? DPI scaling is old hat at this point.

    6. Re:is it really that great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i3 devices with 1080p start at about $420 (Toshiba CB2 2015; Acer c720 i3), and this is a touch device so maybe $450. I am pretty certain that $500 is the highest price that anybody will ever pay for this device.

  7. Re: A holiday story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you for sharing! Will someone here please donate their not white heart to this man?

  8. A slashvertisement? by darthsilun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And Newegg has already pulled the listing. Double Fail.

    1. Re:A slashvertisement? by fbobraga · · Score: 1

      a bad slashvertisement :P

  9. Re:Spyware by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have you read every single line of code currently running on your computer? How about the UEFI code? Hard drive firmware? We know spy agencies have compromised that before. You have absolutely no clue if your box is spyware free. How about the management engine in your CPU or the firmware on your ethernet interface? You'd have no idea if it randomly sent packets back to the home company in China. Yes Google uses analytics and metrics on its users but you can't call it spyware when they tell you what's being done.

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  10. Looks like a fish, moves like a fish.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    , stears like a cow - DNA

  11. Re:Why isn't this marked "advertisement"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    More specifically why does it not have ntv-sponsored-disclaimer class so that those that want can block it by adding:

      slashdot.org##:xpath(.//*[@class='ntv-sponsored-disclaimer']/../..)

    to their ublock filters.

    As a public service here are a couple more that clean things up a little:

    slashdot.org##:xpath(.//*[@class='clearfix meta article-foot'])

    slashdot.org##:xpath(.//*[@class='deals-wrapper'])

    slashdot.org##:xpath(.//*[@class="nav-site"])

    slashdot.org##:xpath(.//*[@class="grid_24"])

    ||google-analytics.com^$important,third-party

    ||twitter.com^$important,third-party

  12. My wife loved hers, never needed to boot Linux by raymorris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife switched from a Linux desktop to a Chromebook, which would also run Ubuntu. To my surprise, she never had any reason to boot Ubuntu - Chrome was all she needed. As someone else said, for her the computer is the web. Battery life was great, it would sleep and wake quickly and without glitches so she'd charge it maybe once a week. Just close the lid when she's not using it and the battery would last a week.

    1. Re:My wife loved hers, never needed to boot Linux by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      To my surprise, she never had any reason to boot Ubuntu - Chrome was all she needed.

      Works for many people, but basically a casual user. No artist would ever be satisfied working in a browser, for example. Sometimes you just need to strip away the crap and use a computer as a computer.

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    2. Re:My wife loved hers, never needed to boot Linux by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      I do the same with my Fedora 24 and Fedora25 versions. I close the lid, When I want to use it, I open the id, press the power button and the laptop wakes up from where it left off.

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  13. Certainly not GNU philosophy, maybe Linux by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > Sure they may be based on linux but they do not share the philosophy.

    That's an interesting comment. Certainly it doesn't match Stallman's GNU philosophy, but Linus's Linux philosophy - maybe not so much conflict there. You pop open a terminal and there's Linux, with the standard Linux tools.

    1. Re:Certainly not GNU philosophy, maybe Linux by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      > Sure they may be based on linux but they do not share the philosophy.

      That's an interesting comment. Certainly it doesn't match Stallman's GNU philosophy, but Linus's Linux philosophy

      Totally matches Stallman's philosophy. What he cares about is that you can get the source to the code you are running, and the toolchain, rebuild it, change it, and run it on the device. Checkmarks for all on Chromebook. Well, except for the copyleft requirement for making changes to open source code available, which Google does even though not legally required to. Also note that Linus has never been against Stallman's magnum opus, the GPL, only against the FSF, which tends to be grabby about copyright assignment and has a few other annoying habits.

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    2. Re:Certainly not GNU philosophy, maybe Linux by someoneOtherThanMe · · Score: 1

      Totally matches Stallman's philosophy

      Not at all. Yes, the client-side is OK, but the server-side (eg Google Docs) is completely closed. It would have to be Affero GPL to allow you to deploy a modified version of the web app.

      Chromebook is almost like a computer with all proprietary software, connected to a display and keyboard with free (GPL) firmware.

    3. Re:Certainly not GNU philosophy, maybe Linux by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Totally matches Stallman's philosophy

      Not at all. Yes, the client-side is OK, but the server-side (eg Google Docs) is completely closed.

      I guess we'd have to ask him. You aren't forced to use Google Docs.

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      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
  14. Re:Spyware by MightyYar · · Score: 1

    I'd love to know how, in your mind, Linux was ever going to "win the desktop" while also maintaining the unix philosophy. When people speak of Linux ruling the desktop (or the pocket I guess), they certainly do not envision the masses editing text config files and piping bash commands. But if that's your thing, Chromebooks do have a developer mode with full access to the guts and many Android handsets/tablets are rooted without too much effort - anyone who cares will probably check to make sure of this before making the purchase. Hell, even the iPhone is based on mach/unix. Not a win for Linux, but same lineage.

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  15. Never Buy ASUS Laptops by alternative_right · · Score: 1

    Extremely shoddy hardware, with the cheapest possible components and glitchy, jerky operation owing to defects in communication between the glitchy slow components and other parts of the hardware. You would do much better to buy ACER or Lenovo, which is why they were the big winners in sales figures last year while ASUS did poorly.

    1. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YMMV. The last two ASUS here have been X551CA (2013-12) and UX301LA (2015-06) and these have delivered very happy service. Mint Mate FWIW. I'm well aware that all companies ship duds as well as hits, but right now ASUS will get the first look for the next unit.

    2. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by drewsup · · Score: 1

      agreed, the Acer Chromebook 14 , while only having a celeron , seems a better deal, better looking too, why would i pay an extra 200 for an i3M ?

    3. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      I bought my wife an Acer Chromebook, I think it has a 15 inch screen though. At any rate, she loves the thing. The Haswell? Celeron is very capable, the construction is good, has a nice bright 1080p IPS screen, the works. And all for 250 bucks. I'm not sure what the deal is with Acer as their Windows laptops in my experience suck but they make pretty good Chromebooks. It's like two different companies. I have a 10 inch Acer 2-in-1 I picked up on a whim a few months ago and it is horrible. The keyboard and trackpad are worse than the ones on my Aspire One netbook from back in the day. Almost literally trash.

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    4. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Extremely shoddy hardware, with the cheapest possible components and glitchy, jerky operation owing to defects in communication between the glitchy slow components and other parts of the hardware.

      Haha, you're making that up. It would be bad business for Asus to put out a machine with weak components that break immediately, causing huge return bills and massive hit to reputation. For that reason, the low end is where you will find serious reliability... high return rate would break the business. (BTW, this doesn't apply to Dell, just avoid.)

      The dominant fact of life about this form factor is the thermal envelope, which limits the processor clock. Just suck it up... that's the cost of the sexy thin profile.

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    5. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      My main concern about this device is that the Intel chip in it - at $281, amounts to 56% of the retail cost. Give me the same thing in ARM please, and pass the savings through.

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    6. Re:Never Buy ASUS Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recently was given an AD 2005 Acer Travelmate 6000 laptop . After buying a 1GB RAM module on eBay for equiv $5.00 ,replacing the 512 MB module ,I am now happily running Lubuntu Linux version 16.04 .........not superfast but quite adequate for day to day internet browsing ,e-mail and Office work ,running LibreOffice , also music ,video ,etc Excellent WiFI connectivity
      Happy with this old workhorse

  16. Reasonably priced? by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    That puppy costs 499$, While the specs are not bad, they are not that great either at that price point given that the system is nothing more than a browser on steroids.

    1. Re:Reasonably priced? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      Very good point. I agree $499 is way too high.

    2. Re:Reasonably priced? by uvajed_ekil · · Score: 1

      I thought half the point of a Chromebook was that it was supposed to be cheaper than a standard laptop? I'd say the sweet spot is around $800or so now, but you can pick from a number of pretty decent laptops for around $500.

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    3. Re:Reasonably priced? by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      I thought half the point of a Chromebook was that it was supposed to be cheaper than a standard laptop?

      I'm sure that was the case at first as they were going up against the extremely dominant Windows platform and they felt like positioning the Chromebook as, among other things, a value was a good way to get some market share. Now that they have traction and people are buying Chromebooks on other merits like security, ease of use, and simplicity, the OEMs are taking a shot at going up market. Now the message can be, you know that Chromebook you like so much, yet was slow and cheaply constructed? Well now by just paying a bit more, you can have a more premium experience. It's not just buy a Chromebook instead of Windows because it's cheap, it's by this Chromebook rather than that one because it's faster/higher resolution/IPS/more RAM/better.

      I'd say the sweet spot is around $800or so now, but you can pick from a number of pretty decent laptops for around $500.

      You're still thinking, Chromebook vs. Windows. A chunk of the market is now sold on Chromebooks so for them it is Chromebook vs. better Chromebook and Asus, with this model, is casting their line there.

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    4. Re:Reasonably priced? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      It's because the Core M3 in it costs $281.

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    5. Re:Reasonably priced? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      I thought half the point of a Chromebook was that it was supposed to be cheaper than a standard laptop?

      This form factor is more like an ultrabook, so compare to that.

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  17. ...aaaaand it is already gone. by Lisandro · · Score: 0

    Thank you Trump!

    1. Re:...aaaaand it is already gone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Trump and I still thought this was hilarious. Really shouldn't be modded troll.

  18. Re:Backlit Keyboard? by Desler · · Score: 1

    The couple hundred milliamps of a current draw from the backlight is nothing compared to the CPU and the display.

  19. Re:Spyware by ravnous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What you call spyware I call the price I gladly pay for free email, calendar, contact management, search, web browsing, drive space, photo organization, document creation/editing/management, (simple) web site hosting, a mobile device OS, maps, translation, music management, video hosting, messaging, social media (I know), note-taking, and data synchronization.

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    When does this happen in the movie?
  20. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by dwater · · Score: 1

    What's a "finder"? It has folders/files and an excellent file finding facility. There's no desktop, that's true.

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  21. Google Chrome Browser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does it crash on you frequently like it does on the Windows version?

  22. stopped reading at touchscreen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stopped reading at touchscreen. You can fuck off with your urge to fingerpain all day long.

    1. Re:stopped reading at touchscreen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fail to realize that the next generation (anybody under age-25) considers laptops to be very clumsy attempts to make a smartphone. And a smartphone without touch is a useless, Blackberry / Nokia-like device. And therefore, you sir, are a dinosaur.

  23. Re:Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I call people like you selfish. You are willing to trade your children's future away for a trinket. Oh, you think it is just a bit of your privacy that you trade for all the "free" stuff that google gives you? Google and such are building a massive wall of predictive software that is going to royally screw our kids, grand-kids, and great grand-kids. If they can predict what large numbers of people will do under any given circumstance, they can control what large numbers of people do. This is not going to end well.

  24. Re: Backlit Keyboard? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    Somebody should invent some way to control the intensity / power drain!

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  25. Re:A holiday story by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 0

    I read a similar story some 30 years ago, except the roles were reversed. The white man declined a black man's heart. That was just as racist as this post is. No more, no less.

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    Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
  26. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

    I know it runs contrary to the design/intent of the Chromebook OS, but even something like a Downloads folder being missing messes with my workflow. I use the folder as basically a to-review-later folder. I know I could use Paper or something similar but it's not my current workflow. And, I'm old. ;)

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  27. Re:A holiday story by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    The odds of a tissue type match would be even tinier than they are within the same race. Heck, it's less than 50% chance within the immediate family.

    Either it's a myth or it dates from before they knew about stuff like that and the guy would probably have died anyway.

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  28. Fool me once, twice by LordKronos · · Score: 1

    Fool me once*, shame on you. Fool me twice**, can't get fooled again. Fuck you Asus!

    *with the Transformer Prime and it's shitty ass WiFi, and GPS so bad you actually expected me to use a dongle to get a usable GPS signal

    **with the Transformer Infinity, and it's piece of shit software upgrades (and from what I understand to be somehow due to inferior memory bandwidth?) that render the thing slower and slower with every update, to the point that I can do a factory reset on my Inifinity, install absolutely no apps, and still have 5 to 10 second touch lag in chrome on a regular basis even after it has had 20 minutes to finish it's reboot, do whatever startup tasks it may need.

  29. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by dwater · · Score: 1

    ..but it has a Downloads folder too. Are you sure you've actually used ChromeOS?

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  30. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

    It is confusing that Slashdot seems to fetishize the Chromebook: a touchscreen centric, cloud only, spyware ridden, closed ecosystem with 0 dev tools that can only run lightweight web apps, while constantly hating Windows 10 for being a touchscreen centric cloud friendly os, which occasionally phones home, has a full blown Linux subsystem accessible through bash and has one of the best suites of development tools available.

  31. Re:Spyware by argumentsockpuppet · · Score: 1

    I don't trust Google to always do what I think is morally right, but they give me tools to see and expunge everything they track about me.

    That's a far better deal than I get from most companies I interact with.

    Sure, of course they may be lying, but why would they lie when 99.999% of their customers won't even bother learning that there is such an option, let alone exercise it?! Lying would open them to legal risk, telling them the truth insulates them and costs them practically nothing.

  32. Re:Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    paranoid schizophrenia...

  33. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by epine · · Score: 1

    while constantly hating Windows 10 for being a touchscreen centric cloud friendly os, which occasionally phones home, has a full blown Linux subsystem accessible through bash and has one of the best suites of development tools available

    When the EULA reads "thou shalt bend over upon request", it seems misplaced to enthuse over the clover.

    One thing worse than picking up pennies in front of a steamroller is picking up cherries under a gorilla (this includes old, tired, dissipated gorillas with weak bladders).

  34. Re:Spyware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The truth is, Google's very survival revolves around user trust. If Google ever breaks that trust, the company dies overnight. They drill this into every employee's head on the day they are hired, and in the 2-weeks of training that everyone receives. Access to private information is off limits and proposals to access private data must pass muster with a board of review and is only granted for a limited time, and only for legitimate business (i.e. ads-targeting, normally) purposes.

  35. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FInder is the name of the original Macintosh Operating System Shell ~ i.e. the window manager, used to find applications to run, was called "The Finder". The first bit of code that would allow you to load 2 or more programs in memory and swap screens among them - the Multifinder !!!

  36. No need to ask, he spouts off without being asked by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Stallman was talking about how horrible ChromeOS would be before it was even released.

    http://m.theregister.co.uk/201...

  37. Re:No need to ask, he spouts off without being ask by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Stallman was talking about how horrible ChromeOS would be before it was even released.

    As is the case more often than not, he's right. A full-blown computer that can only run a browser, feh. Everybody who uses one will run into that limitation sooner or later and complain about it, especially as the devices keep moving closer to the ultrabook form factor. Google is well aware of this and is busy back filling, supporting Android apps and multiple windows for example.

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  38. I was surprised by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > A full-blown computer that can only run a browser, feh. Everybody who uses one will run into that limitation sooner or later and complain about it

    My wife replaced her Linux desktop with a Chromebook, which I immediately istalled Ubuntu on. I also left ChromeOS as dual boot. By booting Ubuntu, it ran pretty much just like the desktop she had before. My wife loved that little computer. One great thing was the battery life - it would suspend amd resume very quickly and gracefully, so by just closing the lid whenever she wasn't using it, it only needed to be charged about once a week.

    Here's what surprised me - she never booted Ubuntu. ChromeOS did exactly what she wanted. She never once ran asked me "how do I _____ on this computer?" Not once. When she wanted to check her email, she went to her email as she always had - in the browser. She used Pinterest, Groupon, maps, looked up TV listings - all the things she did on her desktop computer worked just the same on ChromeOS.

    So while *I* would be unsatisfied with its limitations I found out that NOT "everybody who uses one will run into that limitation". For a lot of people, including my wife and my mom, it fits their needs perfectly. And actually since it has ssh and a browser, I used it when traveling and it fit my needs for a travel computer - mostly I use my local computer to ssh to various servers. My stuff isn't stored on any particular local terminal.

    1. Re:I was surprised by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      So for your wife, the moment when she realizes it isn't a real computer will come later, rather than sooner. But it will come... disconnected from the internet and need to print something perhaps?

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  39. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

    Yup, certain of it ;) Like I said, it was sufficiently different that it was too disruptive of my I'm-old-get-off-of-my-lawn workflow. I certainly appreciated the concepts, but it just wasn't right for how I work.

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  40. She had it for three or four ars before I broke it by raymorris · · Score: 1

    She had it for three or four years before I accidentally broke it, and she was always happy with it. We printed stuff out about two or three times per year, meaning the inkjet nozzles were likely to be dried up, so even from my big desktop I print via the Fedex Office (Kinko's) on the corner. As I said, it wouldn't quite fit *my* needs, and it may not fit *your* needs, but it works very well for very many people.

  41. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by dwater · · Score: 1

    ok, that's your choice, but it just seems like all your 'issues' aren't actually valid - at least, not any more. Perhaps it's time to have another look, especially now some are coming out that have some actual horsepower - it's surprising how much you need for even a half reasonable number of tabs/windows.

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  42. Re: "if you have been looking for a new Chromebook by ubrgeek · · Score: 1

    It's funny you say that. After reading your responses I said the exact same thing to my wife. Might be time to give it another shot. Thanks :)

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