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Some Google Pixel Devices Are Shutting Down At 30% Battery (androidauthority.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Android Authority: It seems that some Pixel devices are affected by the same infamous shutdown bug that plagued the Nexus 6P where the device would prematurely turn off at 25 to 35 percent. The Huawei Nexus 6P has finally received the Nougat update. But ever since, Google's last ever Nexus device has been on the news, and for all the wrong reasons. Among the problems was a shutdown bug: the phone would shut down when the battery is at 30 percent or so. Well, it looks like the issue isn't unique to those Nexus 6P users. A few Reddit users are reporting that their Pixel devices are also suffering from the same shutdown bug. Some Pixel phones would prematurely shut down at or around 30 percent and would not turn back on until a charger is connected. A user by the name of vrski_15, who started the thread explains: "Twice in last 5 days, has the phone shutdown abruptly while I am in middle of something. In both instances, battery was between 25-35%, and the phone under normal conditions should have lasted for at least next 3-4 hours." With the Nexus 6P, Huawei first ruled that this was not a hardware problem but a software-related one. However, users found that the problem persisted even after downgrading to Android Marshmallow. This led Huawei to investigate further with Google, and although the company hasn't revealed the cause yet, it is probably related to the problem that these Pixel users have been experiencing.

130 comments

  1. Send it back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So send it back. It is defective.

    1. Re:Send it back by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Is it? Complete discharge is very bad for LiIon batteries. Shutting down at 30% is a good way of extending the life of the battery (and, if it doesn't have a user-replaceably battery, of the device). The real problem is the software reporting 30% and not 0% when it is about to shut down.

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    2. Re:Send it back by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

      I have the inverter on my off grid house to shut down at 80%. I have a large enough battery capacity to usage ratio that it's not a problem and greatly increases battery life. I don't know what the chemistry is on LiPos does, but on lead acid, everything below 75% starts to rapidly decrease the lifespan of the battery. I read once that you can fully discharge a lead acid battery about 10x before it is permanently ruined.

    3. Re: Send it back by Cassini2 · · Score: 1
      Lead acid performance is terrible. The average car battery is only good for two or three full discharges. I've even observed heavy duty deep cycle batteries last 2 full discharges in cold weather.

      Disclaimer: had boss who placed zero emphasis on circuit testing. Not good idea with batteries.

    4. Re:Send it back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the only solution for the problem. If people just bitch about problematic devices on facebook, the corporations continue to screw them even more. Only when a defective device causes financial backslash the corporation may re-evaluate its behavior.

  2. Copy Cats by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Really? You don't have to copy everything Apple does.

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    1. Re:Copy Cats by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Really? You don't have to copy everything Apple does.

      Well at least Pixels aren't doing poor imitations of a hand grenade. That's a plus ... isn't it?

    2. Re:Copy Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The batteries were left out in the air too long before insertion...

    3. Re:Copy Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The batteries were left out in the air too long before insertion...

      That's next gen, Googles "Tool" phone.

    4. Re:Copy Cats by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Really? You don't have to copy everything Apple does.

      It's funny because it's not true?

      Hmm.

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    5. Re: Copy Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not just a copy. They copied and out do Apple.

      IPhones would shut down but you can turn it back on.

      TFA said the Pixel would not unless it is plugged in. That's way more advanced!

    6. Re:Copy Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still the delusional apple fantatic I see.

    7. Re: Copy Cats by fermion · · Score: 1
      Honestly there was a short period where my iPhonewould shut down around 25%. It would have to be plugged in, then would turn back on.

      Power management in probably the top innovation in mobile and getting it right is hard. Getting even somewhat wrong can be disaster. Just look at the hoverboards from last Christmas.

      Back in the day we simulated hundreds of duty cycles for a battery before letting them in the feild. Even then there was no way to know for sure that a battery would perform.

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    8. Re:Copy Cats by theendlessnow · · Score: 1

      And it's fun to see the Pixel count down.... 10... 9...8....7....6....5.....4.....3.....2.... (poweroff)

      Gives you that whole movie thriller experience.

    9. Re:Copy Cats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? You don't have to copy everything Apple does.

      Well at least Pixels aren't doing poor imitations of a hand grenade. That's a plus ... isn't it?

      No, that's not a Plus, that's a Note 7.

  3. They're just holding it wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hold the phone right you idiots!

  4. Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wish that Google released a real Nexus 5 replacement. I'm talking about an affordable and reasonably-sized device. After I used my Nexus 5 to destruction (it actually held up better than any other phone I've ever had) I looked at their newer devices, but they were all too big or too expensive for what you get. I had to get an iPhone, but I hate it. I really wish that Google releases a real Nexus 5 successor, and that it quits throwing these big and costly phones our way.

    1. Re:Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google will get bored of Android soon and will discontinue it.

    2. Re:Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nexus 5x, by LG. Not a bad phone.

    3. Re:Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      There's plenty of fantastic Android phones besides Google offerings. I'm very partial to OnePlus these days - the bang-for-the-buck ratio on their products is ridiculous.

    4. Re:Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I hear they're looking at Tizen.

    5. Re: Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do any of those non-Google phones get software updates as often and as quickly as Google provides for their phones?

      How many of them are made by Chinese companies?

    6. Re: Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Lisandro · · Score: 1

      Do any of those non-Google phones get software updates as often and as quickly as Google provides for their phones?

      Yes. Samsung, LG and OP are usually pretty speedy with their updates.

      How many of them are made by Chinese companies?

      Pretty much all of them. And i mean all cellphones, Android or not.

    7. Re: Will they release a Nexus 5 replacement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung is a plague on Android and will drop it in a few years for Tizen.

      The others aren't too bad.

  5. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Jesus H Christ, these Trump fanatic retards...

  6. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Same AC here. I apologize for my incredibly stupid post. Clinton was clearly the better candidate and deserves to win the election. We're it not for meddling by the Russians and an antiquated electoral college, Clinton would have been the clear and deserving winner. I'm sorry for making such a stupid post, and I will work to improve the quality of my posts. Clinton was clearly the better candidate, though it's not hard to be better than a clueless buffoon like Trump.

  7. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This submission being at the top of the /. front page proves you are wrong.

  8. Re:Why does Android get a free pass? by Lisandro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Um, you realize the topic of the story you're commenting on right?

  9. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ". We're it not for meddling "

    WE ARE it not for meddling? What is it about the apostrophe that seems so complex?

  10. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I'm Spartacus.

  11. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No *I* am the original AC.

    Will the real AC please stand up. We're gonna have a problem here.

    Hey beauhd ... just a reminder... Clinton lost. Have a nice day.

  12. I have a 6P... by Bartles · · Score: 1

    ...and I thought it was just me. I have been having the premature battery shutdown problem ever since I installed Nougat. I just assumed the battery was getting tired.

    1. Re: I have a 6P... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Same AC here. I apologize for my incredibly stupid post. Clinton was clearly the better candidate and deserves to win the election. We're it not for meddling by the Russians and an antiquated electoral college, Clinton would have been the clear and deserving winner. I'm sorry for making such a stupid post, and I will work to improve the quality of my posts. Clinton was clearly the better candidate, though it's not hard to be better than a clueless buffoon like Donald Trump.

    2. Re:I have a 6P... by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Both I and a friend of mine bought 6P's a few months ago and neither of us has seen this issue. Awesome batterylife ( way better than my S6 edge had ) since 6.x was running on it, and no problems during 7.0 or 7.1.1.

      Being seemingly sporadic it makes me wonder if maybe it is some kind of settings or app issue. I personally shut down as many services on the phone as possible, and my friend has been running the 7.x betas since the phone was bought.

       

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    3. Re:I have a 6P... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are we still talking about phones here, or is this 6P code-speak for something else?

      If so, you should ask your doctor about pills to take care of the premature shutdown.

  13. Samsung Note Edge by mrlinux11 · · Score: 1

    My Samsung phone does the same thing

  14. Nexus 4 by dejitaru · · Score: 1

    My nexus 4 did that some times too. I thought it was mostly due to the battery being old (it is an old fone anyway), but other times it would run all the way down to 3% just fine. There's too many reasons or factors that could cause it like overheating or just some app causing some huge error. Or maybe it has some issue with the rom. Actually now thinking about it I don't think i've had the issue on my Nexus since I flashed it to Chroma.

  15. Re:Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Others have pointed out the silliness of saying this in a Pixel thread, but if you need to know why Apple always gets brought up, here's why: when you compare Apple to Android, you are comparing a lesser market share to a greater one. But when you compare any given phone, the Apple one is the only one that matters.

    The Galaxy Note 7 sold about a million.
    Everything I can find about the Google Pixel shows them hopefully selling between 3 and 5 million units, but I can't find actuals.
    The iPhone 7, Apple hid the numbers on. It's still predicted to have hit about 60-80 million units shipped already.

    Any given Apple phone will outsell any given competitor by at least an order of magnitude, and often two orders of magnitude. So if the Samsung Brown Note 35 literally makes your toes fall off, that's smaller news than the iPhone 8 having a dead pixel.

  16. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a very remote possibility that Sanders can still get elected. If something were to happen to trump, Nanci Pelosi would get to decide to the next president. There's no love loss between her can Clinton, let me tell you. Sanders would become the next president.

  17. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a moron. If Trump died, the Republican-led House would pick the next President.

    If Pence died as well, the Republican-led Senate would pick the Vice President.

  18. What was wrong with the Nexus 5X? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was the same price as the Nexus 5. Besides, if you wan't a good low cost phone you should look at OnePlus.

    1. Re:What was wrong with the Nexus 5X? by lucm · · Score: 1

      Lenovo (Moto) are pretty good too, and they're vanilla Android, very little bloatware compared to Samsung.

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  19. Solid engineering by Master5000 · · Score: 0

    Google are a bunch of amateurs when it comes to software. My nexus 5 had more problems in one month than my iphone in a year. And my iphone se isn't that much more expensive than a nexus 5. Shoddy engineers create shoddy products. There is a reason Google gives thing away for free. They can't charge money fo those shoddy services.

    1. Re:Solid engineering by lucm · · Score: 0

      There is a reason Google gives thing away for free.

      Yes. They give things away so they can study your behavior and tweak their ads accordingly.

      It's an ugly business model, but is it truly uglier than Apple, which is essentially a vanity press for software developers, selling them expensive tools and asking exorbitant fees to let them publish their app on the app store with minuscule odds of even breaking even?

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    2. Re: Solid engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Apple charges $99 compared to Google at $25.

      It's 3 times higher but it's not expensive. If you publish an app because you couldn't break even because of a $74 difference then I've got news for you...

      No one is interested in your shitty app or you have a business model problem.

      It would help if you don't publish your "embed a website (and someone else's website for that matter) on either of the app stores and waste people's time.

    3. Re: Solid engineering by lucm · · Score: 1

      You also need an Apple computer. Mysteriously for Android development you don't need a Google computer.

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    4. Re: Solid engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My YouTube viewer app that allow sort by number of comments is feeling hurt. isn't that the greatest idea ever?

      But yeah even I did break even including effort for the 2 days that I spend on it. Just not enough to pay the bills that's all. ;)

    5. Re: Solid engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not enough to pay the bills?

      I'll let you in on a secret... we'll sorta given how dense you are.

      You gonna make a deal with the armies from Hell (I.e. Third world hell hole) and get them to write 5star reviews for you.

      No not China you idiot! they have been getting too expensive lately and any Chinese who can write in English will eat into your revenue. You gotta go for Phillipines or Blangadesh or India etc and mix it in with some premium quality ones from Russia or Eastern Europe to make it look legit. Disclaimer: I haven't tried Africa or South America. Do your sums. You need to balance it out to find the sweet spot since there will be diminishing returns.

      And you cannot just have one app you lazy asshole. You need at least a dozen or more of them so you can get economies of scale.

      With that you can be out of your mother's basement in a year's time.

    6. Re: Solid engineering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No you don't you dumbass. You need OS X but it's open source so download it you fucking idiot.

    7. Re: Solid engineering by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      I can see a recent announcement that Apple is willing to open source OS X, but finding ISOs to download is harder. Can you link a couple of places with the ISOs and maybe some info on installing it onto Windows PC?

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    8. Re: Solid engineering by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

      You need OS X

      I thought you needed macOS for the latest iOS development kit versions and OS X is being phased out?

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  20. Re:Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cause android makers accept mistakes and hold themselves accountable, apple is arrogant and tells us we are holding it wrong

    now shut the fuck billy

  21. monster waves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are my guess for the reason. For lack of a car analogy. Different waves, superimposed, randomly causing monster waves.
    Or in terms of the phone, various consumers with non-steady load, pulling randomly higher currents at one time or another, all happening to do it at the same time, causing some voltage drop that is detected as an empty battery.

  22. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Android is not Apple.

    Apple is a wall garden filled with scumbags that is just trying to squeeze you dry.

    Android on the other hand and especially Google are just people who try to do the right thing but do make some honest mistakes. That's how open source is supposed to work.

    How can you blame Android? Apple on the other hand charges a premium so they better make sure they are light years ahead to justify their evil deeds.

  23. But they charge to 130% by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe they discharge at 30%, but they charge to 130%! With some recent battery innovations, they may be able to reach 150% of charge and shut down at 50%!!!!

    1. Re:But they charge to 130% by theendlessnow · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they discharge at 30%, but they charge to 130%! With some recent battery innovations, they may be able to reach 150% of charge and shut down at 50%!!!!

      Talking to their head of support, Nigel Tufnel, he said that's exactly what happens.

  24. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the Real AC please stand up Please stand up.

  25. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That not it. The headlines just report the issue. The hate is all in the comments so no, being reported does not justify your point.

    Read the comments thread. See how much ridiculous Apple hate there is on an Android defect thread.

    I'm an Android user, but man these comments are way overboard and really juvenile.

  26. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because This is slashdot and we are nerds.

    If you're an iPhone user sorry it's not your club.

    Go back to your hipster cafe.

    Now get off my lawn (which is in my mother's basement).

  27. Weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I owned a nexus 6p until i replaced it with a pixel xl, at which point i gave the 6p to my dad and neither device has ever had this issue. Not only that I've never even heard of this issue until now.

  28. 2017: the year of thicker phones for more battery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You heard it here first: Next year's phones will be thicker so people will shut the hell up about battery life.

    Well that and to make Trump's baby hands look even smaller.

  29. My Nexus 5 too by aklinux · · Score: 1

    Recently my Nexus 5 has been doing this as well. Shuts off with between 30% & 50% battery and I can't get it stay on until I plug it into a charger. Then it's OK for a day or so, then we do it again.

  30. Don't send it back, stick it in a random truck bed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if the people suffering from this problem are being targeted with a stingray, or some other covert baseband functionality that's draining the battery faster than regular usage would account for. This would potentially be invisible to the OS and its battery hooks, since the baseband processor operates at a lower level.

  31. Haven't neen it myself by wbr1 · · Score: 2

    I have a Motorola Nexus 6 (not 6p) recently on 7/nougat. Reflashed with newest Google image last week. I also have a 2nd gen Nexus 7, running marshmallow. Neither have exhibited this fysyhfyexhb%73CARRIERLOST

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  32. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 0

    For fucks sake. Clinton lost. Will it take much longer for you guys to shut up about HRC?

    There's nothing good to say about Trump, so they have to keep saying bad things about Clinton to justify their shitty decisions.

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

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  33. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by lucm · · Score: 1

    Yeah that's like when Noam Chomsky complained on the Larry King show that the mainstream media was boycotting him.

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    lucm, indeed.
  34. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by lucm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The headlines about Apple are always biased, like "Apple working with Consumer Reports on MacBook Pro's Battery Issue" while the real story was that Apple marketing said there was no problem and Consumer Reports was doing their test wrong.

    In this case, some dude on Reddit says he has problems with his Pixel and the headline is "Some Google Pixel Devices Are Shutting Down at 30% Battery".

    No wonder smart people find that irritating.

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    lucm, indeed.
  35. Re:Why does Android get a free pass? by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So if the Samsung Brown Note 35 literally makes your toes fall off, that's smaller news than the iPhone 8 having a dead pixel.

    The fact that Apple makes $400 per iPhone while Samsung is making $23 per device (that mysteriously sell for about $400 less than iPhones) also matters.

    Like people who still defend Bill Cosby or those women who send marriage proposals to serial killers on death row, the typical Apple fanboi who cheers Apple for taking their money (and making "90% of the profit in this market") is a fascinating social phenomenon.

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  36. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by lucm · · Score: 1

    If you're an iPhone user sorry it's not your club.

    Go back to your hipster cafe.

    I don't think hipsters use iPhones nowadays. Real hipsters drive vintage Volvo and make their own deodorant using fair trade, earth-friendly ingredients; their phone is more likely to be from an underdog like Blackberry, or a custom/specialized Android statement like the Ektra.

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  37. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For some reason now that the results are set in stone and we think that we can finally get on with our lives no matter who we voted for....

    Obama decided to start provoking Trump needlessly and using the powers he had but not used for the last 8 years.

    Ok I was an Obama supporter for a Long time... but recently he's starting to behaving like trump and we once again cannot tell what the hell all these shit is about.

    Saying he would have won if he could run a third term? WTF? I can imagine Trump claiming all sorts of what ifs, but now even Obama is acting all Juvenile

  38. Re: Solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

    Yes, but it says nothing whatsoever about Trump.

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  39. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shit it's the hippisters! Hipsters and Hipsters are coming full circle!

    Now go back to your tree!

  40. No more google phones for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a hard code user of Android smartphones but very unhappy with Google devices. I've owned a Nexus 5 and Nexus 6 and the hardware is just not good.. Lots of battery issues with both of them and issue with the power button and boot loop just after a few months of use. Similar trouble with my wife's Nexus 5 as well..

    I now use a OnePlus 3 and my wife and a Mi5 and we are much happier with our devices than we were with the Nexus phones...

  41. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lyinghillaryclinton.net Clinton = server to bypass freedom of information act. Bill Clinton meeting the AG on an airplane Clinton destroying emails after having a federal subpoena Clinton and Benghazi don't even go there. Russians hacked what tell us what they have you can say Russians hacked but what did they have nothing the DNC emails that came out that Wikileaks Clinton could have came out and explained them or denied them at any point she chose not to because they were true and showed who she really was Hillary Clinton refused to release her speech to Goldman Sachs because it proved she was out of touch with the average person and had two viewpoints one public one private her foundation took money from countries that kill and abused gays and women but she supports gays and women she's what we call a two face she was recycled Clinton trash that nobody wanted and if you believe that she was the best choice you two are a moron and think about this she so bad that Trump destroyed her in the poles destroyed her the entire map was red states that haven't been in many many years that's how band she was but you keep living in la-la land

  42. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're doing it in the name of fun :)

    If you take it seriously maybe you should not be using the internet.

  43. Google Pixel Owner Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah I've ran into this same issue as well. It's probably the apps draining most of the battery's power, could just be a software issue on Google's end. Other than that I love my Google Pixel a lot, especially how it takes high resolution photos. I've already invested some money in a power bank for now. I was able to get my google pixel from this giveaway here - http://bit.ly/2gIJ6qZ - It arrived within a week. But other than that I'm a huge fan of the Pixel thus far.

    1. Re: Google Pixel Owner Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm already pissed off with dongles and now you're suggesting powerbank?

      Fuck you and your Pixel ... and Apple

      Tell you what I love my Pixel because I'm permanently plugged into a socket in my mother's basement. Who need batteries.

      Oh and Fuck Apple anyway

  44. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by lucm · · Score: 1

    If you dislike hipsters you're probably gonna be thrilled to discover their nemesis: the normcore.

    Normcore is a unisex fashion trend characterized by unpretentious, normal-looking clothing.

    Yes, it's a thing.

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  45. could be a battery issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of my phones acted like that or shut off even earlier under load when the battery came close to two years of use.

  46. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 0, Troll

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

    Yes, but it says nothing whatsoever about Trump.

    Trump became President on his own. First president in history who didn't sell out to lobbies or Washington cronies. He's not even in office yet and already he's making America Great Again just because of that.

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  47. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean Hipsters and Hippies.
    Sorry

  48. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. I use Apple products (macbook, ipad, iphone, iMac, Apple routers) but I shit on Apple all the time because it's more fun that way.

    That makes me more of a cynical user rather than a fanboi which lends more street cred.

    Obviously I won't post this using my 1337 Low ID account.

  49. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by tripleevenfall · · Score: 1

    Slashdot's editorial board is more biased in the Apple vs Android rivalry than the New York Times is during an election year

  50. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL! yeah! It's totally about street creds!

  51. My Pixel has same problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Pixel has also been consistently shutting down at 25-30% (no warning) for the past few weeks. Comes up as 0% when recharging. Also strangely, Android OS tends to be the #1 battery user.

  52. Re:Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone who voted Clinton should have all privileges of citizenship revoked. Clinton was a completely unacceptable candidate and anyone who voted for her is unfit to participate in governance of this country.

    Well, yeah, that would drive home the point that Trump is an actual fascist in every definition ever used. Good idea, since I don't live in Nazimerica.

  53. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * shitty disposable consumer electronics breaks shocker *

  54. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For fucks sake. Clinton lost. Will it take much longer for you guys to shut up about HRC?

    There's nothing good to say about Trump, so they have to keep saying bad things about Clinton to justify their shitty decisions.

    WRONG!
    She ran her whole campaign as "Vote for me, because I am a woman",
    did you even watch any interviews with her?

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

  55. My old iPhone 4S... by antdude · · Score: 1

    ... it shuts down at 10% even after I told it to go ahead and go to low power mode! Yes, it uses the same original battery since it was bought.

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  56. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

    Yes, but it says nothing whatsoever about Trump.

    Trump became President on his own. First president in history who didn't sell out to lobbies or Washington cronies. He's not even in office yet and already he's making America Great Again just because of that.

    You mean he only caved to the lobbies after he became elected? Or that he already was one of them to begin with? Because fuck - look at his cabinet. 3 guys from Goldman Sachs alone. Wasn't the worst thing about Hillary (apart from Pizzagate maybe) that she once gave paid speeches in front of Goldman Sachs?

  57. Indirect measurement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Percentage is most likely approximate based on raw voltage measurement.
    Ultimately the battery monitor circuit says nope, we're done on one output signal and the phone shuts off.
    Saves a few pennies after all to not speak on an I2C bus with the battery monitor chip.

    Who wants to sit there and count all those coulombs anyway?

  58. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nah. Lamers, including you, are afraid of him is all.

  59. Re:Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if the Samsung Brown Note 35 literally makes your toes fall off, that's smaller news than the iPhone 8 having a dead pixel.

    The fact that Apple makes $400 per iPhone while Samsung is making $23 per device (that mysteriously sell for about $400 less than iPhones) also matters.

    Samsung may be making $23 on the phones that cost about $400 less than iPhones - but their top-of the line phones cost more than iPhones. Stop pretending.

  60. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You win the Internets. Sir.

  61. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, ok. So the problem is with people commenting things you don't like.

    Internet must be hell for you.

  62. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't vote for anyone. but has trumpf actually done anything yet?

  63. Re: Solution by rickyslashdot · · Score: 0

    DUH! Trump ran HIS campaign on "I'M NOT CLINTON" - and WON - so I guess it all boils down to the lesser of the two evils - or, even better, the outsider slam-dunking the ingrained establishment. FINALLY, we got someone to vote for that fit under the category of "NONE OF THE ABOVE" ! ! !

    OK, so seriously off-topic - but it answers the issue brought up by lucm ( 889690 )

    Besides, I have karma to burn - so get a grip, and learn to live with the facts of life - American people are totally fed up with the 2-party system that puts the same types into power, just labelled differently (conservative vs liberal / republican vs democratic) and who represent ONLY those that HAVE - and be damned to the population they are supposed to represent !

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    redneck geek
  64. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you believe certain (most) mainstream journalists, he is already responsible for every bad thing that governments do. So that's something, I guess?

  65. Re: Solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

    First president in history who didn't sell out to lobbies or Washington cronies. He's not even in office yet and already he's making America Great Again just because of that.

    What? Are you on the purple crack again? He's not even in office yet and already he's putting the people at the bottom of the swamp in his cabinet.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  66. Saving Energy for Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is Huawei after all, a clandestine branch of the Chinese government (like all corporations in China) that is charged with the task of massive data collection for the regime.

    If you own a Huawei device, you can rest assured that the Chinese government knows everything you are doing with that device.

    Having all of this information will make it a lot easier to colonize the United States when the time comes to call in the debt.

  67. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice story bro, and that's all it is, a story.

  68. Re: Solution by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I didn't vote for anyone. but has trumpf actually done anything yet?

    You also don't read the news, do you? He's been shitting up international politics already. There's also the small issue of his cabinet, which he has staffed exclusively with the people he found at the bottom of the swamp.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  69. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please contact the writing center for assistance, and re-submit by Friday.

    Reason: run-on sentence

  70. Re: Solution by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "The United States of America lost" - FTFY

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    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  71. Re: Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jabba the Hut is the new President of the US.

  72. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Samsung flagship phones cost as much or more than a comparable iPhone. I know because I wanted to switch and I was convinced that a Samsung was cheaper. They're not. Sticking with iPhone now since there's no advantage in cost to switching yet.

  73. Keeping up with the Schillers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because, courage.
    Obviously.

  74. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by TheCastro1689 · · Score: 1

    Slash dot is in the order in which it was submitted, not in any order of points or karam like reddit.

  75. Just bought one by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

    I literally just bought a Moto G4 Play phone a couple of days ago. Being vanilla Android was a big selling point for me. I don't care for mobile games, so as long as it works as a phone, can SMS, and run a couple of apps that I want it's perfect for me. The price was pretty damn good compared to the other stuff out there. I really like the fact it has little to no bloatware.

    It took me 10 years to replace my old Nokia N73. I hardly ever make calls, and I have a desktop PC so I could care less about what most people use their phone for. The local telco finally removed 2G and some 3G support forcing me to look for a new handset...I guess I'm a ludite.

    You can get off my lawn now.

    --
    All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
    1. Re:Just bought one by lucm · · Score: 1

      I hardly ever make calls, and I have a desktop PC so I could care less about what most people use their phone for. The local telco finally removed 2G and some 3G support forcing me to look for a new handset...I guess I'm a ludite.

      You're not alone. I don't make calls either, I keep the ringer off and I use the "Mr Number" app (free) to block pretty much anyone I don't know.

      I'm not really a power user of my phone, I mostly use Google Keep and the maps. But just for those times when I need to check something in my emails or take a quick picture of the license plate of some fucker who inconvenienced me in a parking lot (for future retaliation), it's worth the $45 monthly price.

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      lucm, indeed.
    2. Re:Just bought one by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

      If you're in Australia you can switch to a mobile plan from Aldi supermarket. It's pre-paid, but unlike most which expire the credits each month, this one lasts for 12 months at a time and is only $15. So, if like me, you really only keep a phone on hand in case of a vehicle break-down or a rare lunch meetup then you can switch to this plan and save $525 / year for the rest of your life.

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      All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
  76. Re: Why does Android get a free pass? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    I know because I wanted to switch and I was convinced that a Samsung was cheaper. They're not.

    I know it's cheaper for my partner because he feels he can upgrade less often.

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    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  77. It Might be the Battery by Bratch · · Score: 2

    Samsung Galaxy Note 4 with Android 6 Marshmallow here. I'm an avid battery swapper, always keeping one charged so I can get back to 100% in several seconds, and benefit from a clean boot. I just don't like having the phone plugged into a charger all the time, or walking around with a cord hanging out to a portable charger. My phone recently started suddenly losing power around 30%, not shutting down, just turning off and getting stuck in a loop booting up. I noticed that it happens with only one of the batteries. The other battery will keep the phone running all the way down to 2% if I let it. I still swap the batteries, but the bad one has a "30%" marked on it with a blue Sharpie just so I know when to expect it to die. Someday I might replace that bad one and see how a new one performs. From what I hear, most new phones lack the capability of allowing the owner to change the battery. In my experience the battery is the most likely thing to fail, followed by the glass from contact with concrete.

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    Beware of the Redittor who loans you a Sharpie.
  78. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 0

    Clinton ran a campaign based on "I'm not Trump". That was her entire platform, and it wasn't enough to be elected. That says a lot about her.

    Yes, but it says nothing whatsoever about Trump.

    Trump became President on his own. First president in history who didn't sell out to lobbies or Washington cronies. He's not even in office yet and already he's making America Great Again just because of that.

    You mean he only caved to the lobbies after he became elected? Or that he already was one of them to begin with? Because fuck - look at his cabinet. 3 guys from Goldman Sachs alone. Wasn't the worst thing about Hillary (apart from Pizzagate maybe) that she once gave paid speeches in front of Goldman Sachs?

    It's hard to pinpoint the worst thing about Hilary. Maybe it's the fact that after denouncing it as a First Lady, she suddenly voted in favor of a law that makes child support a lower priority debt when someone declares bankruptcy - that happened once she started getting funding from bankers. Maybe it's the Travelgate. Maybe it's the time she stole furniture from the White House and only gave things back once her husband was offered higher quality furniture by a crooked banker who wanted to buy a presidential pardon. There's many options here.

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    lucm, indeed.
  79. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 0

    American people are totally fed up with the 2-party system that puts the same types into power

    I don't think people are fed up with the 2-party system. I don't think they are fed up with anything in particular except maybe having a federal government that is too expensive, too invasive and not in tune with their views on sensitive topics. It would probably solve a lot of problems if the federal government was just minding its own business: building roads, protecting the border, running the post office. When they get into stuff like gun control or health care they are bound to make at least half the country unhappy. Leave those issues to individual states, where there's a more cohesive view.

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    lucm, indeed.
  80. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 1

    First president in history who didn't sell out to lobbies or Washington cronies. He's not even in office yet and already he's making America Great Again just because of that.

    What? Are you on the purple crack again? He's not even in office yet and already he's putting the people at the bottom of the swamp in his cabinet.

    I know that cabinet-bashing is the latest liberal propaganda, but actually his cabinet is not that bad. According to Wikipedia, CNN said that his cabinet is "a conservative dream team of domestic Cabinet appointments". Based on his vision of focusing on rebuilding roads and schools, that makes sense.

    If you wanted a liberal cabinet that enjoys meddling in other countries affairs, you should have gotten Clinton elected. That's how it works.

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    lucm, indeed.
  81. Re: Solution by lucm · · Score: 1

    Jabba the Hut is the new President of the US.

    It was either that or Emperor Palpatine.

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    lucm, indeed.
  82. Re: Solution by rickyslashdot · · Score: 0

    AGAIN, DUH! Aren't the issues you mention the very issues that the '2-party system' (the establishment) is so totally involved in . . . that they can't get around to actually doing the job they were elected for - - - like building roads, border protection (uh, isn't this a TRUMP WALL item?), post office (not a federal department for many years, but an independent agency losing money as fast as, or faster than, any other federal agency?).
    As far as leaving issues to the states, how do you figure ANYTHING ranging across the individual state's actions as 'cohesive', other than being bound by federal legislation to remain in the 'union'?
    Sorry, do NOT want to start a flame war - but I would like to get clarification on these points before I begin considering anything you post as valid.

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    redneck geek
  83. Another brick in the wall by lucm · · Score: 1

    border protection (uh, isn't this a TRUMP WALL item?)

    About the Trump wall - are you aware that the Mexicans are themselves building a wall in the south to stop illegal immigrants from Guatemala? Illegal immigrants are not a US-specific issue.

    Walls work, it's not a stupid idea. There's roughly 500,000 people who cross the Mexico/USA border illegally every year (excluding drug mules), this is not a problem that will be resolved with change.org petitions or Facebook pages. Let Trump build this wall; if there's a consensus in the population to let more unskilled, poor immigrants in, it should be done the right way, not by turning a blind eye on human trafficking and all the horrible side effects of illegal immigration.

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    lucm, indeed.
    1. Re:Another brick in the wall by rickyslashdot · · Score: 0

      OK . Have it your way. I'm tired of trying to be agreeable with you about YOUR specific issue(s), while attempting to point out the root causes embedded in the full spectrum of geo-political issues covering NOT just singular issues, but the fundamental problems that genuinely worry so much of the American voting public (read - those that are paying attention to the global situation and it's ramifications).
      "Re:Another brick in the wall" is starting to feel like another brick to the head.
      You have good intentions, and have focused on good items of concern, but the only way to address these limited problems is to go after the PTB (Powers That Be) that have allowed these situations to continue to exist.

      Enjoy your holidays - and be thankful that you are in a country that ALLOWS you to enjoy these superficial pleasures, while, at the same time, is resorting to the same types of social controls that permit this government to do as they damned well please to everyone else in the world.

      Misquoted, but essentially the same thing - - - Those that surrender their rights for security, deserve neither.

      I'm finished with this thread . . . . .

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      redneck geek
  84. Re: Solution by rickyslashdot · · Score: 1

    Thanks. I needed a swift kick in the crotch to remind me of the hate mongers / trollers still allowed to post freely.
    Please learn to be civil, or go home and kick the dog.
    At least I don't get vindictive about disagreeing posts - but then again - I don't really give a shit about those that tout their attitudes as gospel.

    Remember, a closed attitude and a closed mind does nothing except gather cobwebs.

    Have a Happy Holiday Season.

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    redneck geek