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8,000 New US Jobs? Trump Takes Credit For Sprint, Startup Decisions (usatoday.com)

President-elect Donald Trump has announced that Sprint is moving 5,000 offshore jobs back to the United States and OneWeb, a satellite Internet startup, is adding 3,000 more jobs in the U.S. From a report on USA Today: The jobs were made possible, Trump said, through Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son, a Japanese billionaire and technology investor, who met with Trump in New York earlier this month. After that meeting, the two businessmen announced Softbank would invest $50 billion in the U.S. and create 50,000 jobs. Softbank owns 80% of Sprint and this month it invested $1 billion in OneWeb, a venture that intends to offer affordable Internet access. Son called the investment a "first step" in his commitment to Trump.

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  1. That investment has been in the works for a while by ventsyv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump is taking credit, but he had nothing to do with it, the investment in question has been in the works for a long time.

  2. Re:Great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those 5K jobs were part of a previous announcement from before Trump was elected.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint-jobs-233019

  3. Re: Great news! by LordKronos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah just wait for the details to come in on this one. I'm sure it will be like the announcement that he saved Ford jobs, only to find out that the company had planned that over a year ago and it had nothing to do with Trump. Or like the Carrier announcement, where he claimed credit for jobs that were never being eliminated, and the rest of them have the big asterisk that Carrier is going to invest millions of dollars which we later discovered were going mostly to automation to eventually replace most of the jobs that were just "saved"

  4. Breaking news by Kohath · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Politicians are self-promoters and they take credit for things other people did.

    1. Re: Breaking news by Kohath · · Score: 2

      Such shenanigans will never cease no matter what. Maybe we shouldn't pretend it's somehow worse when the other team is doing it?

    2. Re: Breaking news by Kierthos · · Score: 2

      Who cares if he did something that he's claiming credit for? Uh, me. How about that. And I'm not the only one.

      Also, I wonder if Trump realizes that claiming credit for all these things could bite him in the ass. I mean, what happens if the economy takes a down-turn after he takes office? He's claiming credit RIGHT NOW for the uptick in Christmas sales, jobs coming back, etc. That makes it really hard to not "be responsible for" the economy ticking down after he takes office.

      Oh, who am I kidding, he'll do what every fucking politician does. Everything good is because of him, and everything bad is because of the previous guy. The problem is, Trump will actually toot that horn MORE than most politicians because he might actually believe his own press. He's already referring to himself in the third person, and the inauguration is still three weeks away.

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    3. Re: Breaking news by SecurityGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with this, and say pretty much every single election that $NEW_GUY is going to take credit or get blamed for whatever happens in the next 4 years.

      Yeah, we should really quit doing that. Trump has nothing to do with those 10,000 jobs, Incidentally, jobs fluctuate by over 100,000/month, so gaining 10,000 in the almost 2 months since he's been elected is literally in the statistical noise.

    4. Re: Breaking news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Maybe we shouldn't pretend it's somehow worse when the other team is doing it?

      Lets pretend that Trump is only doing it at same level as "the other team."
      So what? Even if everybody does it, that's no reason to let it pass without criticism.
      Especially if you consider yourself to be on neither team.
      Remember a tu quoque fallacy is still a fallacy.

  5. Re:That investment has been in the works for a whi by burtosis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Trump is taking credit, but he had nothing to do with it, the investment in question has been in the works for a long time.

    That's pretty much what the guardian is reporting.

  6. Re:*Very* happy by Rei · · Score: 2

    Taking credit for a move that had already been planned for over a year makes you happy?

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  7. Re: *Very* happy by LordKronos · · Score: 2

    You've been impressed by him taking credit for a bunch of stuff that he mostly had absolutely nothing to do with? I guess you are easily impressed.

  8. Gullible + Needy Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    They've already asked, it was already announced, they've already admitted it was part of the already announced spending.

    https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/28/trump-isnt-responsible-for-sprint-bringing-5-000-jobs-to-the-us/

    "When I reached out to a Sprint spokeswoman asking if the announcement was a direct result of working with Trump or part of a pre-existing deal, she copy and pasted the press release I'd sent along with my first email. I responded saying I already had the press release and asked again if this was a direct result of working with Trump or part of a pre-existing deal in place. I tagged Sprint in a tweet about the situation, and it wasn't until after that started getting retweeted that the spokesperson responded...."This is part of the 50,000 jobs that Masa previously announced," she said."

    I'm afraid Trump is very gullible and very needy. They can tell him anything and he'll fall for it like a child.

    1. Re: Gullible + Needy Trump by kenh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did you notice this in the slashdot post above:

      The jobs were made possible, Trump said, through Softbank CEO Masayoshi Son, a Japanese billionaire and technology investor, who met with Trump in New York earlier this month. After that meeting, the two businessmen announced Softbank would invest $50 billion in the U.S. and create 50,000 jobs.

      Trump announced the 50,000 new jobs that these 8,000 are part of - I don't understand why you felt the need to pester the Sprint press department over an obvious fact.

      Trump & Son announce 50,000 new jobs, later Sprint announces 5,000 new jobs as part of the 50,000 Son previously promised - seems like a Trump win to me.

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  9. Re: Great news! by unixisc · · Score: 3, Informative

    Uh, Ford had originally planned to move out of Louisville, KY, but after the election, called him to let him know that they reversed course. If that was something that was determined a year earlier, why would they wait until now to break that news, and why then bother telling Trump anything if they weren't planning such a move in the first place?

  10. Want to keep those jobs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It will be a race to the bottom for Americans to lower their standard of living faster than China, India, Pakistan, Indonedia and Vietnam.

  11. Re: Great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're both morons, but a good deal of the jobs were headed overseas. They aren't "good" jobs, customer service and sales jobs. My guess is the tasty programming/IT jobs are still headed overseas.

  12. Own petard by T.E.D. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is kind of our own fault. We're the ones who vote for POTUS based on how we feel the economy is doing, when there's very little evidence the POTUS has any significant effect on that whatsoever. (In actuality, its probably much like being a coach. A good one can't really help all that much, but it is possible for a bad one to royally screw things up)

    If the economy is going to be our metric for how a President is doing, and there's no objective statistical backing for it, its only natural to expect that one would cynically use bogus statistics to pump himself up. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

  13. Re: Great news! by Major+Blud · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or like the Carrier announcement, where he claimed credit for jobs that were never being eliminated

    Where did you hear that? These jobs were going to be moved to Mexico:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  14. Re:Great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those 5K jobs were part of a previous announcement from before Trump was elected.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-sprint-jobs-233019

    Just imagine for when Trump gets his twitter bot code back from the Indian shop! Maybe they will even make it go directly to the presidential alert feed that can't be turned off!

    Great News. I just $good_thing_exaggerated_or misrepresented. Cheer my greatness.
    Sad News. $bad_thing.ToUpperCase() is yet more of the legacy left behind by the $blame_list_decorated[rand()].ToInsultLevel($degree_of_distraction_required).

  15. Re: Great news! by kenh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think those 5,000 jobs hand-delivering cellphones announced in 2015 are the same jobs being announced at the end of 2016.

    The 2015 announcement is a possible number of jobs as a pilot program grows out of Kansas City.

    The 2016 announcement is a transfer of 5,000 existing jobs located outside the US into America.

    One is about new jobs, the other is about existing (mostly call center?) jobs back into America.

    The only two things these reports have in common is the employer (Sprint) and the number of jobs (5,000)... Is Sprint still planning to hand-deliver cellphones nation-wide? It's been well over a year since they announced plans to do this nation-wide, but I've never heard about it.

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  16. Re:Great news! by dywolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    nameless faceless sources....like the director of the CIA, the head of the DIA, and the head of the NSA.
    also, do you think the CIA just burns their sources in Russia so quickly?
    or did you not realize that the evidence would itself reveal who those assets are?
    read the news, the real news, for once in your life and you'd know why these agencies are being slow to write their report; it has to be done without also tipping their hand to Russia as to how they know.

    and again: I am so glad we're more concerned with some DNC emails that showed office staff being office staff, more than we are with electing the most unqualified man to run for office, an admitted sexual assaulter, scam artist, and general nincompoop. we really dodged a bullet there.

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  17. Re:Great news! by dywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You mean like telling the truth about a corrupt politician?

    Didn't work.

    He got elected anyway.

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    The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
  18. Re:Great news! by dywolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    I swear the man using me as a pawn isn't using me as a pawn.
    Trust me.

    Also, does anyone else remember the time so long ago, like, about a year ago, maybe a tad more, where the GOP was all "Obama gotta bomb Russia cause UKRAINE, and show them he isn't a weak Russia lover!"

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  19. Re: Great news! by kenh · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who promised the Rusdian leaders he'd have more 'flexibility' after his re-election? President Obama.

    Who mocked claims that Russia posed the greatest threat to America? President Obama.

    Who famously attempted to 'reset' relations with Russia, with comic results? Secretary of State Clinton.

    You can act like random tweets from the campaign trail are meaningful, that's your right, but the above were all done by our elected/appointed officials while in office.

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  20. Re: *Very* happy by kenh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Obama administration took credit for jobs that weren't lost - an essentially made up metric they added to jobs created to claim credit for jobs 'created or saved'... I never heard that metric before Obama was in office, had you?

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  21. Re:Great news! by unixisc · · Score: 2

    And every GOP presidential candidate fell by the wayside against Trump. Russia was a very hot topic in the GOP debates, w/ Trump supported only by Rand Paul on Russia, while most of the other candidates supported being tough on Russia. GOP voters had their own ideas about who's the bigger enemy - Russia, or Obama's beloved Muslims

  22. Re:Great news! by penandpaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    there was only one politician running last election and it wasn't Trump.

  23. Re:Great news! by Jhon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "I am so glad we're more concerned with some DNC emails that showed office staff being office staff, "

    Yeah... that's all it was. No attempts to try and get Trump to be the nominee because the DNC didn't feel Clinton beat many of the others... no attempts to sabotage Sanders campaign in various ways. Nobody from CNN provided debate questions to Clinton... Just office staff being office staff.

    "nameless faceless sources....like the director of the CIA, the head of the DIA, and the head of the NSA.
    also, do you think the CIA just burns their sources in Russia so quickly?
    or did you not realize that the evidence would itself reveal who those assets are?"

    Except Wikileaks -- who LEADED the emails says they didn't get those from the Russians.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

  24. Re:That investment has been in the works for a whi by dywolf · · Score: 2

    GOP Definitions: "Creating jobs":
    Keeping jobs that already exist in the US, in the US.

    synonymous with: bullc*ap

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  25. Re:Great news! by sysrammer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He is a politician now but before the election he most certainly was not. Are you that thick to not understand this basic concept? Let me help you out: What political office did he hold before November 8th? Idiot.

    He became a politician when he threw his hat in the ring in 2015. He became a successful politician in 2016. Do you not understand this basic concept?

    His training ground on how to lie effectively and influence people was as a CEO.

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  26. Re:Great news! by Apocryphos · · Score: 2

    This is a disingenuous argument, so let me do you a solid and explain why so you can stop embarassing yourself. Bush had already decided to invade Iraq and the CIA report was cherry-picked to seem to legitimize his bias. SRC: http://www.rand.org/content/da...

  27. Re:That investment has been in the works for a whi by Paul+Carver · · Score: 2

    and will shoot dead teenagers who throw rocks at armored vehicles.

    If dead teenagers are throwing rocks at armored vehicles then I strongly support not only shooting them but decapitating them and burning the zombie corpses. The last thing that area needs is a zombie apocalypse.