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Amazon Patents Floating Airship Warehouse For Its Delivery Drones (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: We've known about Amazon's drone delivery ambitions since 2013. But patent filings from Amazon, circulated today by CB Insights' Zoe Leavitt, reveal more details about how the e-commerce titan could make drone deliveries work at scale, namely through "airborne fulfillment centers." Yes, that's a warehouse in a zeppelin. The airborne fulfillment centers, or AFCs, would be stocked with a certain amount of inventory and positioned near a location where Amazon predicts demand for certain items will soon spike. Drones, including temperature-controlled models ideally suited for food delivery, could be stocked at the AFCs and sent down to make a precise, safe scheduled or on-demand delivery. An example cited in the filing was around a sporting event. If there's a big championship game down below, Amazon AFC's above could be loaded with snacks and souvenirs sports fans crave. The AFCs could be flown close to a stadium to deliver audio or outdoor display advertising near the main event, as well, the filing suggested. The patent reflects a complex network of systems to facilitate delivery by air. Besides the airborne fulfillment centers and affiliated drones, the company has envisioned larger shuttles that could carry people, supplies and drones to the AFCs or back to the ground. Using a larger shuttle to bring drones up to the AFC would allow Amazon to reserve their drones' power for making deliveries only. Of course, all these elements would be connected to inventory management systems, and other software and remote computing resources managed by people in the air or on the ground. The filing also reveals that the shuttles and drones, as they fly deliveries around, could function in a mesh network, relaying data to each other about weather, wind speed and routing, for example, or beaming e-book content down to readers on the ground. Amazon also recently patented a system to defend its drones against hackers, jammers and bows and arrows.

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  1. Re:FAA TFRs by colinrichardday · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Flight restrictions around sporting events? Is it even legal to have an outdoor NFL game without a flyover?

  2. Re:nice idea by colinrichardday · · Score: 2

    Or a lot of helium.

  3. Amazeppelins! by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Funny

    (That's all I wanted to say.)

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  4. Re:nice idea by burtosis · · Score: 2

    Or a lot of helium.

    Maybe if they hired the right managers all that hot air could be put to actual use.

  5. Think of the possibilities! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Blimps (or Zeppelins, if you really want to make them rigid instead) suffer from the combination of two problems: They're huge and fragile. Which is not as much a problem as long as there is no good reason to force it to come down, That's why those ad blimps you see at sporting events are flying up there. What's to gain by making it crash?

    It's a WHOLE different matter if that blimp is filled to the brim with merchandise that I might like or flying over a target that I might not like.

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    1. Re:Think of the possibilities! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      They aren't terribly fragile, there is a fair amount of redundancy in modern ones. But junk filled dirigibles floating over major cities? What kind of dystopic future is that? Of course, since you have the thing up there, you would just have to put advertising on it. And communications gear. If you think that the FBI wandering over Baltimore with a Cessna and a high res camera is a problem, wait until you see these things....

      And since I'm annoyed and over tired, why the hell is this idiot general concept patented? TFA isn't talking about specific implementations just vague low grade science fiction drivel. Now, instead of being on the Internet, it's using a drone.

      Go back to shooting people into orbit like the rest of the crazy billionaires, Jeffrey.

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    2. Re:Think of the possibilities! by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Blimps or Zeppelins

      In your scenario they are called piñatas.

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  6. Re:nice idea by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

    Floating in the air takes a lot of energy.

    You fail at physics.

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  7. Re:Prototype? by Ash-Fox · · Score: 2

    When did we start patenting imaginary ideas without proof they work?

    1450.

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  8. And it's steam powered too by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually launching and retrieving flying vehiclies from massive airships is nothing new. the US Akron and US Macon were blimp aircraft carriers carring multiple planes able to both launch and retrieve.

    http://www.airships.net/us-nav...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://www.history.com/topics/...

    the russians even built planes that other planes could launch from
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    and Darpa still wants these:
    http://www.popsci.com/article/...

    and both the russians and Lockeed developed concept aircraft based on nuclear powered super planes with runways built into them:
    https://forums.spacebattles.co...
    russina surface effects nuclear powered sea skimmer concept:
    http://englishrussia.com/2015/...

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    1. Re:And it's steam powered too by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Yup, and posting about it is nothing new either.

      https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

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  9. Re:Prototype? by careysub · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When did we start patenting imaginary ideas without proof they work?

    It has been standard practice since the mid-1980s.

    The patent system has been converted into a system for large corporations to erect entry barriers and hobbles for competitors. They can afford to create a portfolio of merit-less patents to use as legal weapons against competitors and defenses against other large corporations with similar merit-less patent portfolios.

    Invention, innovation, advancing the public good through demonstrations of superior art, have almost nothing to do with it anymore, except accidentally. But the corporations are very happy, and that's what count these days.

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  10. Eh No... by foxalopex · · Score: 2

    Actually the Hydrogen Blimps used in the World War were notoriously difficult to shoot down. The planes that eventually pulled it off were using explosive / incendiary rounds to pull it off. Regular bullets just wizz right through leaving holes. Nevermind the fact that firing your gun in the air in a populated area (this kind of distribution only really is effective in a city.) is probably going to get you in trouble. Nowadys they don't use hydrogen in Blimps. The Hindenberg mostly went up in a fireball because the shell was made of flamable material, not so much the gas.

    The drones might be shootable but the problem there is they'll have cameras that will likely spot you and it's not like you randomly shoot at aircraft right?

  11. Re: This is retarded. by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

    Well, I think its pretty cool, but I also think they shouldn't be able to patent an idea they can't yet build.

  12. Re:FAA TFRs by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

    Actually, this is the problematic part:

    An example cited in the filing was around a sporting event. If there’s a big championship game down below, Amazon AFC’s above could be loaded with snacks and souvenirs sports fans crave.

    Do you really think the stadium owners will allow someone else to cut in on the revenue of the food and souvenirs they sell? They'd be asking for such a big cut that Amazon would barely make any money.

    Besides which, the first time a drone drops out of the sky, there's real trouble. Out in the wider world, if a drone malfunctions and falls, there's only a small chance it will actually hit someone. Inside a stadium, the odds go way up.

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  13. I don't get it by supernova87a · · Score: 2

    Someone explain why, if you know about a large public event in advance, why you would want a blimp to serve as home base when a truck can carry more weight, more cheaply, more easily serviceable, and without specialized people to look after it?

    Ideally suited for food delivery? Most food I know that people eat at sporting events is heated, requires heavy equipment to prepare/serve, etc. I don't get it.

  14. Re: This is retarded. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, I think its pretty cool, but I also think they shouldn't be able to patent an idea they can't yet build.

    They shouldn't be able to patent ideas at all, only specific implementations.

    A new propeller design that can be used on a drone: Patentable.

    Using that drone to deliver Chinese food: Not patentable.

  15. disaster relief? by jsepeta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Amazon could position their zepellins near areas affected by natural disasters, where they could supply the needy with clean water, blankets, clothes, food

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    1. Re:disaster relief? by Kohath · · Score: 2

      If Amazon makes a profit doing that, they'll get in trouble for "price gouging". It makes more business sense not to sell needed equipment or supplies to disaster victims.

      Certainly it doesn't make business sense to make any special effort to bring needed goods to disaster victims for sale -- because if they charge extra to cover the extra costs it's "price gouging" again. That really too bad for disaster victims who need stuff and would be willing to pay to make it worth Amazon's trouble.

  16. Re:FAA TFRs by lgw · · Score: 2

    Besides which, the first time a drone drops out of the sky, there's real trouble. Out in the wider world, if a drone malfunctions and falls, there's only a small chance it will actually hit someone. Inside a stadium, the odds go way up.

    God as my witness, I thought these turkey drones could fly!

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