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Apple Patent Hints At Magnetic Ear Hooks To Keep Future AirPods In Your Ears (digitaltrends.com)

Patently Apple has recently uncovered a new Apple patent that may help AirPods stay in your ears. The patent details a magnetic mechanism that wraps around the user's ear. Digital Trends reports: The magnets attract each other through the ear tissue, keeping the AirPods in place and ensuring that they don't get lost. Of course, it's not certain if Apple filed this patent with AirPods in mind -- one of the images clearly shows a wired pair of headphones, and the patent was filed in June. The concept, however, would help keep both wired and wireless earbuds in place. The issue of keeping AirPods in the ear has been arguably the biggest issue related to the AirPods, and for good reason -- they're pretty expensive little devices, so losing them is definitely not something you want to do. It's possible that Apple decided against using the ear hooks for aesthetic reasons -- Apple is known for its excellent design and the ear hooks in the patent don't exactly look great. Not only that but the design of the charging case would have to change with the ear hooks. Some reports indicate that the patent could be implemented with future versions and given the hullaballoo surrounding keeping AirPods in, we wouldn't be totally surprised. It's also possible, however, that Apple patented the design but ultimately ended up nixing it.

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  1. the ancient Assyrians tried this too by turkeydance · · Score: 3, Funny

    well, without the magnets, and their slaves really liked it since they didn't have to have hooks in their lips.

    1. Re: the ancient Assyrians tried this too by fubarrr · · Score: 1
  2. Why not a strap? by fabioalcor · · Score: 1

    Like we always did with our glasses?

  3. for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by FudRucker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.dailydot.com/debug/...
    now i know why i never bought apple products, they attract too much of a cult following, and i am just not in to that, enjoy your apple koolaide

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    1. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      what the fuck kind of bullshit is a site with like 3 pictures and text trying to pull that it pegs all 4 cores of my CPU

    2. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Known+Nutter · · Score: 2

      4 core 6502?

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    3. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      4 core 6502?

      More likely an i7 running Windows 10.

    4. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Nethead · · Score: 2

      Not four core but back in the mid 80s I was using a CMOS 6502 that would do 4MHz (HC65C02P4) from Hitachi. We were building a product that had internals very closely based on the VIC20 (okay, it would run VIC BASIC) that we built our own boards for. On my development board I had built out the I/O for the 1541 disk drive, the problem was the CPU was too fast to talk to the drive. I put in a clutch and gearbox. The clutch was a push button that would ground the HALT line on the CPU (CMOS, so we could get away with it and all the RAM was static) and the gear box was a switch that threw in a 74LS74 TTL flip-flop that would divide the clock by 4. To use the disk I would engage the clutch, down shift and let off the clutch. Then I could access the disk. Once the code was loaded I would shift back in to high gear and test the code. It was a nice board for the day, 4x 6522 PIA and 88KB of EPROM/SRAM space and would map like a VIC-20/C64.

      Too bad it was used for telemarketing.

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    5. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      So you write off an entire company just because of a few idiots?

      Do you actually use anything at all because I can guarantee it that everything under the Sun has been used for dumb shit.

      How about instead of judging a product based on an idiotic fashion statement you instead evaluate it on practicality ?

      I'm not defending earbuds -- they suck compared to a "real" circumaural headphones (over-ear headphones) -- you can pry my Sens 380 Pro and Sony MDR 7506 from my cold, dead hands -- but go ahead and keep labeling _everyone_ who uses Apple products as "drinking the Kool Aide (TM)"

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    6. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by tonywestonuk · · Score: 1

      I thought javascript was single threaded.....hmmmm, itchy chin. itchy chin!

    7. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Apple is a luxury brand. Like most luxury brands they may not be superior to the non-luxury brands but in general they are of high quality.
      If I get the grocery store's brand of lentils I will get a can of lentils that will be fine and do the job. I could actually get a really good batch that is better than the rest. Or I can get a can of namebrand say from Goya it may not be as good as that really good can I got but in general it is of good quality and less of a risk of getting that bad brand of mushy lentils.

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    8. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      asynchronous callbacks run in their own thread.

      (You might want to switch to a different aftershave!)

    9. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      What kind of a twat buys lentils in cans?

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    10. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by chihowa · · Score: 1

      An awesome site to help train my javascript blacklist is what it is! Thanks for the heads-up.

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    11. Re:for all you apple fanboys and fangirls by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      what the fuck kind of bullshit is a site with like 3 pictures and text trying to pull that it pegs all 4 cores of my CPU

      It's a design failure of your computer.

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  4. And of course by Z80a · · Score: 1

    Apple will give those for free to people that bought the airpods, right?

  5. Revolutionary! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If only someone else had thought of a way to use magnets to attach things to your ear! This is courage taken to a new level, we're talking iCourage levels here...

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    1. Re:Revolutionary! by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      If only someone else had thought of a way to use magnets to attach things to your ear! This is courage taken to a new level, we're talking iCourage levels here...

      That's my thinking too - how in hell could a patent ever be granted for this, given such obvious prior art? The fact that a company would even be bothered to apply for such a patent is proof positive that the patent system is horribly broken. But then, everybody here already knew that.

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    2. Re:Revolutionary! by Pulzar · · Score: 1

      If they just stick one end of a round magnet on the earphone, and leave the other for you to put on the other side of your dangly part of the ear (like that earring does), then, yeah, there's no patent there.

      If this is some way of keeping the earphone inside the ear canal that doesn't jar loose as you're running or jumping around, then, well, there's nothing at all like that on the market (as far as I know). Just because it involves magnets and ears, it still can be novel enough.

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    3. Re:Revolutionary! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      See the above-linked earrings. They hold on, even if you're jumping around and running. Source: my wife, who has reactions to metal through her ears. Clip-ons and magnet-ons are fine, however...

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    4. Re:Revolutionary! by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      You'll have to read the actual patent application carefully before calling "prior art!". The linked articles don't provide a link to the actual patent application, so it's a bit difficult to know what they actually patented.

      I'm not even sure if it's a technological patent or a design patent in this case. It seems to be the first, though can't be sure without a link to the actual patent.

    5. Re:Revolutionary! by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      If only someone else had thought of a way to use magnets to attach things to your ear! This is courage taken to a new level, we're talking iCourage levels here...

      That's my thinking too - how in hell could a patent ever be granted for this, given such obvious prior art? The fact that a company would even be bothered to apply for such a patent is proof positive that the patent system is horribly broken. But then, everybody here already knew that.

      It's not a patent, it's a patent application. Your outrage is misplaced, but oddly ironic considering you're complaining about the patent system's ignorance, without actually knowing what you're talking about.

      Second, they're not simply claiming a magnet connected to something for your ear, but a very specific implementation. But realizing that requires reading the application, and again, you thought it was a patent, so... yeah.

      Third, even aside from that, there are some obvious difficulties incorporating a strong magnet next to (i) an aural transducer that requires (wait for it) a magnet to function, and (ii) a Bluetooth antenna that requires (wait for it) a stable EM field to function. Simply gluing a magnet to your Bluetooth earbuds is likely not going to work well.

      Disclaimer: while I haven't looked into this particular patent beyond the above info, I'm an audio engineer, former exec of a chapter of the Audio Engineering Society, and a patent attorney who regularly deals with earbud design.

    6. Re:Revolutionary! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Well they are attaching the buds to stick inside your ear not on the outside. Also it needs to be placed where it wouldn't be uncomfortable. Invention is rarely having something absolutely new but a progression of an idea.

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    7. Re:Revolutionary! by Pulzar · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm sure they do, but it's one thing to have a feather-light earring stay on the outside of your ear, and it's another to have a large (relative to the earring) earphone stay *inside* your ear.

      Having a magnet support it down below is not going to do it, it'll have to be something above/behind the ear, while still feeling comfortable.

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    8. Re:Revolutionary! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      Get you two industrial magnets, one for each ear. They hold about 100 pounds each. Simply put one on each ear and this should solve the earbud issues with them staying in your ear. Heck, it would solve all your apple issues. Hell, would probably solve all your lifes issues.

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  6. Apple iBand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've got it - how about a sort of headband thing that rests across the top of the head and connects the two pods together, all as one connected unit. Make the band a bit springy and bendy so it can fit multiple size heads. Maybe put a bit of foam padding around the speakers.

    You should get right on top of patenting that as a completely original Apple-brand idea, guys.

    1. Re:Apple iBand by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You jest, but the first pair of in-ear ones I had were fine - except when I was cycling - when they used to fall out.

      The solution was wrapping the cable round one of those girly headband things.

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  7. They could have a tether by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe a wire to attach them to your device so they don't get lost.

  8. So, about these magnets... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Will these cost another $40-50?

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    1. Re:So, about these magnets... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Nope, suggested retail price is 399$

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  9. Prior Art Exists (tm) by swschrad · · Score: 1

    there have been magnetic earrings on the market for years.

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    1. Re: Prior Art Exists (tm) by fubarrr · · Score: 1

      In light of this, I believe the next thing they will release will be a magnetic buttplug

  10. Early failures by sjames · · Score: 2

    Of course they had a few problems to overcome and had to adjust the strength of the magnets down a bit. The first version was great except for the horrible clacking sound they made when they met in the middle.

  11. Trend... by 101percent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Make cellphone smaller. Release extended battery case that restores original size and costs you $100.

    Release laptops severely limited in ports. Tons of dongles to enable previous functionality.

    Release wireless headphones sold as a solution to reducing wires. Release extra co-product to re-establish the fit of wired headphones.

  12. I have an idea by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    Given who their customer base is, I suggest they also say the magnets are magic and prevent cancer and give you a quantum aura alignment boost or some BS like that. If you're about to correct me, keep in mind Steve Jobs thought juice drinks would cure his cancer and died because of it.

  13. Re:Fake by mikael · · Score: 1

    There are some people with prosthetic ears that are held in place with magnets. How will those interact?

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  14. Metal detecting at the beach will be fun! by DirkDaring · · Score: 2

    I do metal detecting. I can't wait to start finding these things at the beach.

  15. I just read the patent application by raymorris · · Score: 1

    This was informative and it is a common mistake to think that "applied for patent related to X" means "patented X". The Slashdot summary tells us only that the application is something *related to* magnets on ear buds, it could be something truly novel, unique and complex having to do with the magnet that's needed to drive the tiny speaker in the earbuds, and preventing (or even using) interference from multiple magnets.

    It's also important to keep in mind that a patent application is not a patent. Applications sometimes get kicked back and are revised multiple times, due to prior art or other issues.

    In this particular case, there actually is an issue of novelty, of prior art. Apple's patent application, at least the initial filing, is for a device that has all (not some) of the following characteristics:
    Earbuds
    With a retaining arm that goes around the back of the ear
    Magnets in the arm
    Magnets in the earbud body
    Attraction between the magnets in the arm and in those in the earbud body hold the assembly in place

    There is a legitimate argument that given the prior art of magnetic earrings, which are commonplace, and earbuds with retaining arms, which are also commonplace, it may be obvious to one skilled in the art that you could put magnets in the retaining arm.

  16. I think they are forgetting the obvious use here by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    If you're going to use magnets, do them right.

    Magnetize both airpods and let them attract to each other through the skull. That'll keep them in place.

    Bonus points if they use electromagnets that only activate once the devices are both in the ear canal (temperature-based?). Of course, this means that they may decouple once the user dies. I'm sure marketing can spin that in a good way.

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  17. Sounds painful by kimvette · · Score: 1

    using a piercing would likely be far less painful than magnetic methods. Have you ever tried novelty magnetic earrings, or clip-on earrings? They fucking hurt, while piercings do not once they are healed.

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  18. We should ask Mr. Reese by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    He was able to keep an earpiece in his ear for five whole seasons without losing it or needing to recharge it for that matter.

  19. Re:Oh yeah nothing like Android by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    If that's a real tattoo my bum's a frying pan.

    My three-year-old comes home from school with more convincing looking ones than that.

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  20. Re:Oh yeah nothing like Android by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Google "Android Tattoo" and see the ugly truth for yourself. I don't know if that exact one is real, but I've seen real ones in person.

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  21. Ever worn a magnetic earring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have, when they were the fad. A magnet that is strong enough to hold through tissue squeezes tightly enough to be uncomfortable after a short period. Just saying from experience.