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Macbook Saves Man's Life During Fort Lauderdale Airport Shooting (chron.com)

A 37-year-old credits his MacBook Pro laptop with saving his life during a shooting at the baggage claim of the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport. An anonymous reader quotes WPLG Miami: He placed it in his backpack, but didn't think of it when he felt an impact on his back during the shooting... When the bloodshed was over, he said he went to the men's restroom and saw a bullet hole on the laptop. He gave it to FBI agents. And he was in shock when they found a 9 mm bullet in his backpack. That was when he realized a gunman aimed to kill him, but the laptop took the bullet for him. "If I didn't have that backpack on, the bullet would have shot me between the shoulders," Frappier said.

175 comments

  1. Old MBP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good thing he didn't have the new MBP - would have been too thin to stop the bullet...

    1. Re:Old MBP by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

      and it's storage would of been harder to get back / have to pay apple shop pricing to use the there recovery cable.

    2. Re:Old MBP by starless · · Score: 5, Funny

      and it's storage would of been harder to get back / have to pay apple shop pricing to use the there recovery cable.

      Just wondering if you're trying to get the largest number of grammatical/word usage errors in a single sentence possible...?

    3. Re:Old MBP by zuki · · Score: 1

      upvotes, upvotes to you.

    4. Re:Old MBP by jblues · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, there would have been no physical escape with the new MacBook Pro.

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    5. Re:Old MBP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I specifically logged w/hopes I had modpoints to give that a +1 Funny. No such luck, but well done.

    6. Re:Old MBP by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      and it's storage would of been harder to get back / have to pay apple shop pricing to use the there recovery cable.

      As opposed to the old, socketed version, that would have just been blown to pieces.

      And, pray tell, what is the Apple Shop price for data extraction using their magic cable?

    7. Re:Old MBP by citizenr · · Score: 1

      Does Apple even offer official data recovery (beyond copying backup from icloud)? Afaik they dont.

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    8. Re: Old MBP by tw2k · · Score: 1

      There have been recent reports showing the new MacBook Pro has a proprietary interface for extracting data from the SSD and Apple have confirmed it is for use for data recovery by Apple employees.

    9. Re:Old MBP by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Maybe MacBook Pro owners could get together and sue Apple somehow for being responsible for the death of uh, some people.

    10. Re: Old MBP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you new here? That was pretty good, for him.

    11. Re:Old MBP by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Of course they do.
      Free of charge usually.

      In what retarded world do you live?

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    12. Re:Old MBP by citizenr · · Score: 2

      I have a deal for you, Ill send you 10 water damaged iphones, you will recover data from them thru Apple using this 'Free of charge' service I never heard about, and I will pay you $200 per phone.

      Easy $2K, what do you say champ?

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    13. Re:Old MBP by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As opposed to the old, socketed version, that would have just been blown to pieces.

      Unlikely, as the disk drive is about 2 square inches. With the new MBP, the storage is soldered on, so if there is damage to any of the motherboard, the whole system is junk. The only way to retrieve the data would be with some kind of special rig, or by desoldering the flash chips.

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    14. Re:Old MBP by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      As opposed to the old, socketed version, that would have just been blown to pieces.

      Unlikely, as the disk drive is about 2 square inches. With the new MBP, the storage is soldered on, so if there is damage to any of the motherboard, the whole system is junk. The only way to retrieve the data would be with some kind of special rig, or by desoldering the flash chips.

      Actually, if the owner was using FileVault2, the data is likely toast in either case, I believe.

      But, because Apple makes it drop-dead simple (no pun!) to create and maintain backups with Time Machine (or, if you prefer, something like rsync), and considering the low cost and small size of portable drives, anyone who (especially) travels with their MacBook and DOESN'T have a backup really does deserve exactly what they get.

    15. Re:Old MBP by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      We talked about MBPs, where the data is on the hard drive. Assuming it is a HD failure and not a water damage ...

      What kind of moron are you? I can construct any case where it is either impossible or out of the "we do it for free out of fair dealing".

      On the other hand, if you have $200 bucks over for data recovery fro a phone with water damage, I can do that for you ... facepalm. However not with a "free apple service" but a payed $50 per unit service ... hope you don't mind?

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  2. Yep by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I've often thought the metal on the MacBook Pro was thick enough to stop or seriously slow a bullet...

    Where are all you Ive haters now? Six feet under, that's where.

    On a side note, it shows why you always make sure you have a full backup before traveling...

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    1. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've often thought the metal on the MacBook Pro was thick enough to stop or seriously slow a bullet.

      I've often thought you were retarded. Thanks for making it crystal clear.

    2. Re:Yep by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

      Thanks for making it crystal clear.

      Making what crystal clear?

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    3. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Six feet under, that's where."

      Why, because you're going to kill them? I'm reporting you to the FBI so this doesn't happen again.

    4. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Far more likely is was a ricochet or was slowed by a book in his backpack, a direct shot with a 9mm at reasonable range would mean they were surgically removing macbook pro bits from the bullet wound on his shoulder/back if he survived.

    5. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which country is that? The US is not #1 we are like #5 or #6 per capita in mass shootings....your thinking of countries like Finland....

    6. Re:Yep by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      The Ft. Lauderdale shooter self reported to the FBI. They were too busy to deal with him.

    7. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your retardation. Thanks for making it even clearer.

    8. Re:Yep by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      For a 9mm to do that he'd have had to be close range. It's got no real punch. Cops sometimes shoot people four or five times in the back and they keep running.

    9. Re:Yep by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

      Thanks for making it even clearer.

      Making what even clearer?

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    10. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lawl

    11. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But those are typically afro-Americans hopped up on PCP.

    12. Re:Yep by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Yep, that's why I carry a .45, 'cause I've seen 9mm bounce off windshields.

      For those that don't get the reference:
      http://www.imdb.com/character/...

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    13. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your retardedness. It's breathtaking.

    14. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he should have mentioned he was Muslim

    15. Re: Yep by newcastlejon · · Score: 1

      Or murderous robots from the future.

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    16. Re:Yep by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      What's breathtaking?

      If you are speaking to someone retarded, obviously you must make your writing far more clear, breaking up the subject into a separate sentence plainly will not do! If this conversation is to work you cannot ALSO be retarded.

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    17. Re:Yep by danbuter · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Yeah, go to Germany or France so you can get run over by a truck!

    18. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did deal with him, they called the local police and he was put on a mental health hold for a limited period. If he is not a danger to himself or others, there is nothing anybody can do.

    19. Re:Yep by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Good thing he wasn't a danger to others, huh?

    20. Re:Yep by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Self-reporting such a thing is about the same as me reporting you to the feds for trafficking in kiddy porn... there is no evidence, so little cause/reason to move forward with any serious investigation/acts.

      Go to the police and say you are thinking about harming yourself? Probably going to get the same result.

      Really want to make sure you don't hurt anyone later? Cold-cock the cop and grab their gun in the presence of other people... that will get you locked up... or just go for more simple form of 'robbing' a bank or drug store with a note, then wait outside for the cops to arrive to arrest you without incident.

    21. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a big problem with "knife crime" on the streets in the UK. I have seen articles bemoaning the problem on British news sites.

    22. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shush, now. He's a burr head. Retardation is part of blackie culture.

    23. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but this is Apple. You must restate this as "Retina clear", or "Gorilla glass clear".

      At one time "sapphire clear" would have been accepted, but trade secrets, NDA, change of corporate direction, say no more!

    24. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The battery is also a type of metal.

    25. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't be stupid. Everybody knows being killed by a truck is less terrible than being killed by a gun. Because... YOOROP! No debate. Anyone who disagrees with me is a fascist and should be silenced. YOOROP!

    26. Re:Yep by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Yeah, go to Germany or France so you can get run over by a truck!

      To appropriate the favourite argument of gun advocates: But those trucks were illegal!

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    27. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After all this is slashdot

    28. Re:Yep by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      146million people in France + Germany, and last year 72 dead. My odds are 4.9E-7 of not getting hit by a truck last year.
      389million people in the USA, and last year, and last year 15002 dead.

      Please show me to the nearest truck. I have better odds there.

    29. Re:Yep by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      According to NHTSA, in 2014 (the latest year for which they show data) nearly five thousand pedestrians were killed by motor vehicles in the US.

      https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

      I know that you meant "run over on purpose by a truck", but let's keep the final result in focus.

    30. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be stupid. Everybody knows being killed by a truck is less terrible than being killed by a gun. Because... YOOROP! No debate. Anyone who disagrees with me is a fascist and should be silenced. YOOROP!

      Evidently gun worship causes lead poisoning.

    31. Re: Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The answer is clearly one of "States rights!", "Tax cuts!" or "cutting regulations!". Maybe all three. But those are the only tools we will use starting in a couple weeks.

    32. Re:Yep by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, Amerikuh will have it's very own spate of truck terrorism as soon as it becomes harder for a would-be terrorist to get a gun than to steal a truck (at knife-point, if necessary). The ready availability of guns and ammunition in Amerikuh is why there hasn't been a major truck killing. Yet.

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    33. Re: Yep by sarku · · Score: 1

      Asshole

    34. Re:Yep by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      What country would that be, I have heard of no country that doesn't have anyone getting shot. Australia, an Island with strict gun laws still has gun crime:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Heck, even the UK, the bastion of zero firearm crimes has some firearm crime:

      http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-eng...

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    35. Re:Yep by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      Holy fuck you are dumb, don't you have a no-child left behind program in your country?

      But hey I'll play your bizarre game of I don't understand how to form an arguement: Find me an Australian airport terminal where someone has been shot in baggage collection terminal. I'll wait.

    36. Re:Yep by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      Frankly, since this is the first incident of its kind, why would I ever be able to find something that doesn't exist.

      Find me a single country where this happened before last week.

      So, you characture a country based on one incident, and I am the one who has a diminished mental capacity?

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  3. tldr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    For those that didn't read the article or summary, apparently the gunman hated the new MacBook Pro so much that he shot that instead of the man.

    1. Re:tldr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, only crazies hate the new MacBook Pro. Therefore, MacBook Pro haters are crazies.

    2. Re:tldr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For those that didn't read the article or summary, apparently the gunman hated the new MacBook Pro so much that he shot that instead of the man.

      it was not the new MacBook, that one has the bullet resistance of paper. It obviously was a very uncool, non-current MacBook...

    3. Re:tldr by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Funny

      But what brand of backpack was it?

      The San Bernadino gunman had an iPhone. The Fort Lauderdale rampage was foiled by Macbook. Coincidence? I think Apple are taking this product placement thing too far.

      OTOH, I should be safe from a gun-related homicide with my 4 year old LG phone and 8 year old Toshiba laptop.

    4. Re:tldr by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      it was not the new MacBook, that one has the bullet resistance of paper.

      I take it you've tested this for some reason?

      The article says it was the man's "school-issued MacBook Pro" - so it's safe to assume it was an older model.

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    5. Re:tldr by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Good thing Nokia is back to making phones, now you've just to make sure your purchase(s) cover all of your vital organs.

  4. Laptop...not MacBook, laptop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    The news organization (see the video in relevant link) correctly pointed out it's a Laptop, not a "macbook" which they can't verify since it doesn't even connect to iTunes anymore. Advertising for Apple would give them an air of impropriety, not that /. knows anything about it.

  5. Silly gunman! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Didn't he know you can only put Apple approved bullets in a Mac? Same as regular bullets, but a proprietary shape and size, double the price, and needs a dongle to connect to the shell.

  6. New version of cigarette case stories... by MavEtJu · · Score: 2

    It are the same kind of (bullshit)stories as the deck of cards stopping the bullet, or the cigarette case stopping the bullet, or the bible stopping the bullet.

    How many other people at the airport which got shot did have their macbook with them and didn't get the chance to use it as a shield?

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    1. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by fred6666 · · Score: 1

      How many other people at the airport which got shot did have their macbook with them and didn't get the chance to use it as a shield?

      Probably 0-1, given the number of casualties.

    2. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by joeflies · · Score: 1

      Including Trek actor James Doohan

    3. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by eric31415927 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm happy (and alive) because my grandfather's rum-flask took a bullet for him in WWI.
      My brother has the dented flask in case anyone questions the legitimacy of the story.

    4. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was thinking how much fun it would be if the bullet shorted the battery...

    5. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I question the legitimacy of the story. Flasks get dented every day. It could have been an intentionally inflicted dent. Also, they didn't have plastic flasks back then and the spiderman logo is also suspicious.

    6. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah ... but it happens. Shooting in the street outside my house in SF sent 1 bullet straight into the window casing and another one deflected off the plate-glass window without scratching it, into the window casing in another spot. No, they weren't shooting at me (apparently a domestic dispute with collateral damage).

    7. Re:New version of cigarette case stories... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Math at work!

  7. Re:Argument against reducing thickness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sure - anyone would feel safer with one of the older, thicker MacBooks on their back. But to face a gunman with only a paper-thin new MacBook? That takes courage. And at Apple we will always have the courage to take those risks for you.

    TC

  8. Still, has uses by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    It are the same kind of (bullshit)stories as the deck of cards stopping the bullet..,

    How is it bullshit if it worked?

    What the MacBook has over most of those items is a greater area it offers protection for.

    How many other people at the airport which got shot did have their macbook with them and didn't get the chance to use it as a shield?

    Probably most, but think of it this way - it offers a concrete reason to sling your backpack over your back if you are running away from a shooting (or slinging it in front of you if you are running towards one).

    It might even save someone life hearing this story if they think to do the same in the future...

    I've often wondered if it would be a good idea to have a backpack made from kevlar... apparently that is a real thing (I espceially like how the results include a QuickClot bandage in case you go too cheap).

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    1. Re: Still, has uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A truly wise person will carry a Dell Latitude, or an older Thinkpad to the airport. Much better shielding. And in a conflict situation a potential hostage could probably bludgeon the terrorist to death with a Dell Latitude. Mine is quite heavy, and only a few years old.

    2. Re: Still, has uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find any processor newer than an 8088 doesn't have enough stopping power. With my trusty luggable 8088 portable, one swing and the attacker is down for the count.

    3. Re: Still, has uses by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      I have a 17.3" XPS. I'm pretty sure it could kill falling from a high shelf.

  9. MacBooks have been shown to stop bullets before by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a direct shot with a 9mm at reasonable range would mean they were surgically removing macbook pro bits from the bullet wound on his shoulder/back

    It was only handgun ammunition probably from a good distance, and it's not like we have not seen a MacBook stop a bullet before...

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  10. Impacts with objects decelerate projectiles. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Impacts with objects decelerate projectiles. Hardly news.

  11. And here I thought by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    And here I thought Oracle was supposed to be "bulletproof". {rimshot}

    No need to thank me, just throw money!

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  12. This proves Apple is a religion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    A man credited the bible he always carried for one day saving his life by stopping a stray bullet. Religious zealots repeated the story ad nauseam as a potential benefit to new recruits "one day it may save your life too"

  13. Re:Older Macbook Pro only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new one requires a dongle....

    It still comes with a reality distortion field as standard equipment.

  14. Interesting by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

    CNN cropped out the ISIS finger salute and Jihad scarf from the Fort Lauderdale attacker's picture, and made it black and white. FAKE NEWS! Photo proof here.

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  15. FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If I didn't have that [laptop there], the bullet would have shot me between the shoulders,"

  16. Another side note by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 0

    I've often thought the metal on the MacBook Pro was thick enough to stop or seriously slow a bullet...

    Where are all you Ive haters now? Six feet under, that's where.

    On a side note, it shows why you always make sure you have a full backup before traveling...

    On another side note, this guy just voluntarily gave the FBI his laptop. Now they can rifle through his files and see if he's likely to have committed any crimes.

    If he hasn't, and if there's nothing personal or interesting on his laptop he's OK, but they might just start a file on him and squirrel away the data for later use, "just in case".

    He might have thought to remove the hard drive before giving it to them, but you tend not to think of these things in a tense situation.

    1. Re:Another side note by blindseer · · Score: 2

      On another side note, this guy just voluntarily gave the FBI his laptop. Now they can rifle through his files and see if he's likely to have committed any crimes.

      The article said it was a laptop issued by his school. Not likely to be anything incriminating on it, assuming the storage survived, which is perhaps likely given how small the drives are today.

      What I was thinking about is that he just gave the FBI something he did not own. It's not likely the school is going to bother a shooting survivor over a few hundred bucks lost on a laptop, given that is now quite obviously destroyed and potentially evidence in a crime. A less public incident like this could be construed as an elaborate theft. Going to school and saying, "a terrorist shot my homework" might sound exceedingly unbelievable without some sort of evidence to back it up.

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    2. Re:Another side note by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      IME schools treat them like the school books as in you break it or lose it or for some other reason fail to return it you get they charge you some rather large and arbitrary number of dollars to replace said item.

      They will not press charges theft charges against a student.
      Thankfully the law allowed us to press charges instead because they CBA to do it.

      End result student with a felony because nobody wanted to repay $200.

      The school could have stepped in and handled it or the student could have repaid the money but nooooo nobody wants to take responsibility for anything not even apple.

      Apple needs to be checking for apple based MDM supervision on their activation lock page.
      If the device says it's supervised it's stolen! Apple won't tell you that. Nor will anyone tell you that you need to check for it or for that matter even HOW to check for it.

      Apple still doesn't mention years after implementing it which is really fucked up.
      Hey we have this great new anti theft feature for enterprise. Lets not tell anyone about it muahahahaha.

      You wouldn't buy a Iphone that had an activation lock the person claiming to own it couldn't turn off right?
      Same deal with MDM but apple won't talk about it. WTF?

      It's a great feature and I like it it's just that if someone asks you hey is this device clear to sell don't outright LIE to people and say it is like apple is doing now with their icloud lock page not checking for it.

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    3. Re:Another side note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take your MEDS!

    4. Re:Another side note by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      I thought I was doing so well too.

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  17. maybe it went through something else first.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe it went through something else first or he was far away because I am pretty sure that my 9mm would go through that like butter....

  18. Solid object stops bullet. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Seriously, did we have to hear the exact brand and type? A solid object that happened to be a laptop in a backpack is what stopped the bullet. In fact, a textbook or a small stack of magazines would have stopped the bullet equally as well. -_-

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    1. Re: Solid object stops bullet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. is counting on a kickback from Apple to help pay MSMASH's excessive salary.

    2. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by blindseer · · Score: 1

      In my mind the story is less about the MacBook and more about the near miraculous survival of the victim. Had it been a book, magazines, or anything else it likely would have still made the news. It just would not likely have made it to Slashdot, that is unless it was some other piece of technology like a cell phone or something.

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    3. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      more about the near miraculous survival of the victim

      Not miraculous in the slightest when you consider the five people who did die. If that's God's idea of a miracle, he's a bit of a prick.

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    4. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention that a bullet being stopped by some metal falls significantly short of being a miracle. If bullets not being stopped by metal was commonplace, then there might be cause to credit a sky wizard for interfering, but something commonplace? No.

    5. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the story, it had a hole in it, IT DID NOT STOP THE BULLET... They found the bullet in the backpack.

      Get me the brand of that backpack. Unless it was actually stopped by a pack of condoms in his backpack. What am I saying, he had a macbook, he wouldn't use condoms.

    6. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      If the bullet wasn't stopped by an electronic device, it's not "news for nerds."

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    7. Re:Solid object stops bullet. by Ostracus · · Score: 2

      It would be if it was a pack of condoms. Trojans indeed.

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  19. Re:Argument against reducing thickness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They could fix the issue by applying some dragon skin around the shell. That might even be a design point for other reasons. Form and function, always together is the better.

  20. Nokia by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 1

    Now, had he had a Nokia with him, the bullet would have been bounced back to the shooter, and he would have been hailed as a hero!

  21. Makes me think... by blindseer · · Score: 0

    Whenever I read a story like this it makes me consider getting one of those bulletproof clipboards to put in my bag, or get one of those bags with a Kevlar liner.

    It also makes me think of how we've disarmed good people in "gun free" zones so that they cannot defend themselves against someone that violated that law on not bringing in guns. I'm glad that people are waking up to this and arming school staff, allowing armed citizens into more places, removing impediments to firearm ownership. It saddens me though that we need to see shootings like this make the news for the change to happen.

    With Republicans in control of the government we can expect shootings like this not to be more prevalent but to make the news more often. We don't hear about shootings in Chicago, partly because it's not news any more and partly because the people there keep voting Democrat. If we had an honest news media then we'd have seen a much larger margin in the US elections. I attribute many of the Republican wins to alternative media, which has gained so much more readership since the last election.

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    1. Re:Makes me think... by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"It also makes me think of how we've disarmed good people in "gun free" zones so that they cannot defend themselves against someone that violated that law on not bringing in guns."

      +1

      I am sure this shooting has the anti's lined up to make propose more laws trying to strip guns from good, law-abiding people and create more so-called "gun-free" zones. Because, you know, that evil shooter in the airport really paid attention to the laws.

    2. Re:Makes me think... by swb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The baggage claim area is not a gun free zone. It's outside security and literally anyone from the street could come in with a gun, in addition to someone who had a gun in checked baggage. I don't know if this shooter had actually declared his gun or just put it into his checked luggage (I thought they scanned all checked luggage these days).

      The "solution" to this has nothing to do with gun control or kevlar underpants and everything to do with mental health care.

      This guy walked into an FBI field office claiming the government was trying to make him watch ISIS videos. They thought he was deranged, so they passed him off to local PD who got him run through whatever cheap mental health screening they use for nuts off the street and then he was set loose again.

      The sad story here is that nobody has dime one to provide mental health services for a person claiming the government trying to make them watch videos. This is quite literally tinfoil hat territory, and because there was no money behind him (insurance or private dollars) he gets a social worker with a form designed to satisfy some lawyer's idea of liability. Just how might this have turned out differently if he had been seen by a psychiatrist, talked into a 7 day in-patient evaluation and possibly been given some medication (even if it was just xanax) to get him closer to normal -- or at least seen long enough by trained people to see if he had a more serious long term condition? This guy had been discharged for being a fuckup in the military, so chances are he had a long-term problem.

      So many of these spree shooters are people walking around with sign around their necks that says "I HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS" and we just don't give a shit because nobody will pay for mental health care, so they just roam free. We're not even smart enough to pay for the low-end therapy where they just sedate him in-house for a few days, it's literally a rush to get them out the door before they cost somebody money.

    3. Re: Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't hear about shootings in Chicago, partly because it's not news any more and partly because the people there keep voting Democrat.

      I don't know about you, but I hear scary stories about "dreaded Chicago warzone shooting blargh" all the time. Oddly, they leave out the civil rights abuses that the Chicago PD had, or the failures of the state government in Illinois.

      I wouldn't even discount the possibility of the CIA still being involved in it. They have to raise money somehow, why give up on dealing illegal drugs?

      If we had an honest news media then we'd have seen a much larger margin in the US elections.

      If we had an honest news media, even idiots like yourself would have a chance to be informed.

    4. Re:Makes me think... by DaHat · · Score: 2

      The baggage claim area is not a gun free zone. It's outside security and literally anyone from the street could come in with a gun,

      Ditto for the area beyond 'security' as all literally anyone from the street walk in with a gun, open fire at anyone attempting to stop them from entering the 'secure' area.

      There are also plenty of less obvious ways to get a weapon into that area, alas for you the dotted security line only provides security theater.

      everything to do with mental health care.

      And that solution is... ?

      They thought he was deranged, so they passed him off to local PD who got him run through whatever cheap mental health screening they use for nuts off the street and then he was set loose again.

      And? The ACLU and others fought against involuntary confinement long ago and won. Today, if you can say where you are and why you are there, short of any overt acts of of violence, you aren't going to be held for very long as like it or not... even the mentally ill have the right not to be held without due process.

    5. Re:Makes me think... by blindseer · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The baggage claim area is not a gun free zone.

      Yes, yes it is. Florida law prohibits the carry of a firearm anywhere in the airport for self defense. People can and do travel with firearms on flights in and out of Fort Lauderdale but the firearm must be unloaded, in a secure container, etc.

      It's outside security and literally anyone from the street could come in with a gun, in addition to someone who had a gun in checked baggage. I don't know if this shooter had actually declared his gun or just put it into his checked luggage (I thought they scanned all checked luggage these days).

      Reports stated he traveled with his firearm in a manner consistent with the rules on bringing a firearm on a plane. It was unloaded, in a locked container, in checked luggage, and so forth. What he did though was illegally remove the firearm from the container, load it, and fire upon the people in the airport.

      The reason he was so successful in his mass murder is the rest of the people OBEYED THE LAW! In this case the "gun free zone" in the airport existed only on paper. Blood stained and bullet holed paper.

      I thought the laws existed to keep us safe, no? Well, we have another failure of the "gun free zone" and people paid for government incompetence with their lives.

      I generally agree with your comments on the mental health issues. We can do both you know, address mental health and remove stupid anti self defense laws. Instead of spending this money on disarming the public we should spend it on health care. It would save lives and possibly save money too.

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    6. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree in general this freedom makes sense, but if you imagine a scenario like this baggage claim. Let's say a well trained and well intentioned gun owner is nearby, and close enough to his baggage to safely whip out his gun in an instant to help out.

      When the police come in and see not one, but two or more civilians engaged in a firefight, they will now be forced to make a split second decision who to shoot: Which one is the target and which is merely exercising his second amendment right to self defense. That might prove to be detrimental in stopping the perpetrator.

      (The same thing could happen with a second concerned civilian: once two people are engaged in a firefight it might be difficult to identify which is the criminal and the resulting confusion could lead to many more deaths.)

    7. Re:Makes me think... by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The reason he was so successful in his mass murder is the rest of the people OBEYED THE LAW! In this case the "gun free zone" in the airport existed only on paper. Blood stained and bullet holed paper.

      I thought the laws existed to keep us safe, no?

      No, they don't. They exist to improve the chances of safety. They do not create total safety. Neither do guns. Black and white thinking is nearly always wrong. (See what I did there?)

      And no, the reason he killed five people was NOT because the rest of the people obeyed the law. It was because the rest of the people were cowards, ignorant, or both, and ran, hid, or otherwise did 100% the wrong thing.

      Run from a knife, charge a gun. If everybody within earshot dogpiled on him after they heard the very first shot, they could have cut the number of fatalities to as little as none. Maybe one. Maybe two. Definitely much less than five.

      Shit, he was using standard hand gun magazines. He RELOADED TWICE. Stopping him before he used every round did not even require physical bravery. Anybody could have waited until he was reloading, then jumped him, with zero chance of getting shot. And any asshole who has played CounterStrike, or a zombie shooter, or shit, watched the fucking Lone Ranger knows that you can't get shot when somebody is reloading.

      So no, the "gun free zone" is not the problem. Having guns everywhere is not the solution. Teaching people what to do is the solution. Bravery is the solution. The false bravery of a concealed carry "hero"? No, we don't need more of that.

    8. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kill them all and let God sort them out. Works every time.

    9. Re:Makes me think... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The reason he was so successful in his mass murder is

      because of lack of affordable mental healthcare and easy availability of guns.

      It's the exact same thing every time in the US. Guy with mental health problems has access to guns.

      Good guys with guns won't help much. It's an airport, there were cops and security staff with guns in the area. By the time they got there he had already discarded his weapon, laid on the floor and and was waiting to be arrested. If one of the civilians in the area had been armed, at best we would have maybe one or two fewer victims and a dead suspect.

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    10. Re:Makes me think... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, even if you could get this message out to everyone, the natural human reaction to danger is to move away. From flinching away from pain to running from sudden sounds, it's hard wired in by evolution.

      The only way to overcome it is with military style training, getting people used to gunshot sounds and running towards people shooting at them. I doubt many people will be willing to go through that.

      A more practical solution would be free mental healthcare to prevent the shooters ever getting to that stage.

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    11. Re: Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And? The ACLU and others fought against involuntary confinement long ago and won. Today, if you can say where you are and why you are there, short of any overt acts of of violence, you aren't going to be held for very long as like it or not... even the mentally ill have the right not to be held without due process.

      What are you talking about? Nellie Bly exposed the incompetence of the insane asylums over a century ago, showing their depravity and indifference in an expose conducted from the inside.

      Ten Days in a Mad-House. Read it.

      Then ask yourself why nobody bothered to care about a military veteran who was showing obvious signs of delusions. You still don't, do you?

    12. Re:Makes me think... by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      we just don't give a shit because nobody will pay for mental health care

      More like we can't afford to pay for healthcare controlled by a guild/cartel. Taking care of this guy would require hundreds of thousands of dollars. The high-paid phonies pretend to be able to treat patients, but containment is the only real service they can provide. Holmes and Rodgers were under psychiatric care, and you can see how well that worked.

    13. Re:Makes me think... by misexistentialist · · Score: 0

      How much would you have charged to look after this guy 24/7? Just him, not the 10 guys worse than him we'd also need you to look after. Unless you quote an "affordable" number, you're not really being serious.

    14. Re:Makes me think... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      If you have free mental healthcare then people won't get to the point where they need 24/7 care so often.

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    15. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remote controlled taser, or instant hardening gel towers, installed in the ceilings or floors in every public venue. Every time I read about another shooting in a constrained space like a nightclub, I'm thinking about those. Covering an airport would be an expensive project, though.

    16. Re: Makes me think... by DaHat · · Score: 1

      Interesting... your only complaint with my comment was who I credited... yet you didn't follow the logical course of actions to their conclusion.

      I'm not sure if you are aware... but books or speeches do little on their own. Either they inspire legislation, or other action... like litigation, which is what happened and why involuntary confinement is so limited today.

    17. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... then jumped him ...

      This is more than 'fight or flight' instinct, more than blind panic ignoring a not-too-difficult solution. It is frightened people thinking they'll leave the problem for someone else to fix; a literal version of 'tragedy of the commons'.

    18. Re:Makes me think... by Raisey-raison · · Score: 1

      A more practical solution would be free mental healthcare to prevent the shooters ever getting to that stage.

      Eureka!!!!

      It always amazes me that the most simple thing we can do to stop all the violence committed by mentally disturbed individuals is to provide appropriate treatment and make sure all Americans have incredibly easy access to it. It would also help if we immediately took away firearms from the possession of anyone who is hearing voices pending a court hearing on the subject where the matter can be properly adjudicated.

      If someone wonders how we will pay for it I would remind them that we spend about 18% of GDP on healthcare already. And if we got a handle on costs per unit of care we could provide high quality, nah luxurious care to everyone in the USA. At the very least why not tax all recreational drugs after legalization including alcohol and mandate that the funds go to mental health. For example place a $5 on every bottle of wine or $2 on every bottle of beer.

      This also reminds me of why we need much more intensive outpatient care for some people and longer term stays inpatient for others (albeit humanely done). Doing so literally saves lives.

    19. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes a lot of conditioning to train soldiers to run towards a gun, you aren't ever going to convince the public at large to do it.

      As for the gun owner side, not only is shooting at Bambi not even remotely the same as shooting at someone shooting back at you, but now the cops can't tell you from the bad guy. You might kill the bad guy (unlikely), but you will also likely be dead in the crossfire.

    20. Re:Makes me think... by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Yes, that does happen. This is a training issue for police, not cause to disarm the public. Are you saying that the reason the government should or does ban guns is because the police are too lazy, ignorant, or mentally handicapped to determine who is a threat and who is a friendly?

      I remember hearing of a friendly fire incident in New York City. The police saw two armed men running down an alley, one chasing the other. The shot the pursuer believing him to be the threat. When they got to him and began to give first aid they found the man was wearing a police academy t-shirt under his buttoned shirt, then they realized the man they shot was a plainclothes detective and they let a felony suspect get away.

      So, how do you propose we address this? Should we ban plainclothes police? I say we train police to think before they shoot.

      Also, do the clothes make the man? Is it inconceivable that someone in uniform might be a threat? I'm not saying that the person in the uniform is always an officer, someone could be wearing a false uniform. The police, and the public, should consider that as well.

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    21. Re:Makes me think... by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Clearly evidenced by the subject of this article being shot in the back as he was fleeing. Only saved by the macbook in his backpack.

    22. Re:Makes me think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you've got a round in the chamber you can reload with minimal "downtime" of the weapon. If you're good at it, you might even be able to do it with no noticeable decrease in firing speed.

    23. Re:Makes me think... by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, even if you could get this message out to everyone, the natural human reaction to danger is to move away. From flinching away from pain to running from sudden sounds, it's hard wired in by evolution.

      The only way to overcome it is with military style training, getting people used to gunshot sounds and running towards people shooting at them.

      That may be true, but there's no evolutionary response to gunfire. It hasn't existed long enough.

      Yes, people are accustomed to gunshot sounds. Hollywood gunshot sounds. They are accustomed to gunshot sounds that sound a lot scarier than real gunshots. The pop of a real pistol or the crack of a real rifle are almost unrecognizable to most modern people. The T-800's gunshots in Terminator 2 were famously a combination of a manipulated sound of a .38 pistol being fired, a rifle being fired in a canyon, a cannon firing, and the sped up sound of a cannon firing, all layered together. It sounds nothing like a real gun of any kind, but it was so iconic, and so culturally pervasive, that James Cameron's thumb now rests permanently on the scale of gunshot sound effects.

      For decades of film-making, gun battle scenes were shot using blanks. The guns involved fired rounds with the correct amount of real propellant in them, just with no bullet in front of them. The audio of the "fight" was recorded and actually used in the final print. They don't even bother with that anymore. Yes, that was at least partially because of some accidents on set involving injuries (blanks can still hurt, even kill), but a lot of it was because the whole philosophy of filmmaking with respect to guns shifted. Now they just fire smoke squibs, and the sound they make is irrelevant to what is heard in the movie. The sound editor is just going to replace it all anyway.

      So people have neither an evolutionary response nor a learned response to real gunfire. Evolution hasn't had time, and what they've learned isn't real.

      All those people who fled the terminal building in Fort Lauderdale? Almost none of them saw the shooter shoot someone. Almost none of them heard a shot fired, and the vast majority who heard a shot fired didn't recognize it. They ran because everybody was running, and somebody said "shooter!" It actually happened a second time that day, when no one was firing a weapon anywhere in the airport. News commentators on site by then were baffled. "Why is everyone running again?" one said. All it takes is for the first few people to run. That is the evolutionary response. A panicked crowd could probably trample a shooter to death by accident because of that instinctive reaction, if those first few people would run towards the shooter. Everybody else will too.

  22. Re:Argument against reducing thickness by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Actually, they should buy a Lenovo, which would be thicker AND cheaper, and do a better job saving lives

  23. Lost equipment paperwork by magarity · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now his nightmare begins; trying to get a replacement from the school he works for and not getting charged for breaking it.

  24. The other half of the title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...laptop won't boot, man ditches laptop during flight

    Man reads slashdot item re Apple in decline. Smiles permanently.

  25. The article seems to imply a PC laptop by zuki · · Score: 0

    Am I the only one to sense that the OP was subliminally hinting that had it been a Chromebook, Dell or an Asus, (not to even think of what might have been different with a Microsoft Surface) the owner might not have been so lucky...?

    And if this was not the intent, why did they have to use the laptop's brand in the title rather than just say it was a portable computer of some sort with an aluminum body?

  26. Where's the story? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    IBM keyboards have been able to stop bullets for about 40 years now.

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  27. sounds like the old pocket bible stories... by bkmoore · · Score: 1

    and the bullet stopped at the signature of Steve Wozniak on the inside of the case.

  28. Big deal by kuzb · · Score: 1

    So what. A thinkpad might have saved his life. Or a hardcover book. Or just about anything one might find in a backpack. This isn't some testament to the quality of macs.

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    1. Re:Big deal by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      So what. ....This isn't some testament to the quality of macs.

      No, but it certainly highlights one of their possible uses.

    2. Re:Big deal by kuzb · · Score: 1

      Except nobody buys a laptop to stop bullets.

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  29. Now TSA goons have a new reason to suspect laptops by mi · · Score: 1

    They've always suspected body-armor — if you have one, you must be up to no good. And laptops always took extra scrutiny of their own — easy to conceal a bomb in one.

    Now it is going to be double-trouble for anyone traveling with it...

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  30. I wonder if that's covered by AppleCare by JThaddeus · · Score: 1

    This is why I should purchase extended warranties.

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    1. Re:I wonder if that's covered by AppleCare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Warranties are for design and manufacturing defects.

    2. Re:I wonder if that's covered by AppleCare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For what it's worth, when I worked briefly at Nintendo back in the day we had an out of warranty NES come in for repairs with a bullet hole in it. It was replaced free of charge.

    3. Re:I wonder if that's covered by AppleCare by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      Some third-party extended "warranties" are actually more like product failure insurance. Microcenter will sell you a plan that covers the screen getting broken from dropping the thing. http://www.microcenter.com/sit...

  31. Re:This proves it. by Excelcia · · Score: 1

    Really this just demonstrates the only good use for a macbook.

  32. The real hero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This actually isn't the only such story from this particular incident.

    Although the police haven't admitted it yet, eyewitnesses reported the situation was neutralized when a single heroic bystander lobbed his Note 7 at the gunman. He was incapacitated by the resulting explosion, allowing the police to quickly make an arrest.

  33. Re:Nope by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I wasn't a danger to anyone. They still locked me up till I stopped making with the crazy talk.

  34. Re:Argument against reducing thickness by armanox · · Score: 1

    I thought Lenovo switched to just using plastic for the chassis?

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  35. Would I be a goner with a plastic Chromebook? by iamacat · · Score: 1

    Shit, should have invested in a Toughbook. Or will plastic's viscosity slow bullet down to survivable speeds?

  36. And now this breaking news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    New MacBook continues to take flak...

  37. Mac laptop toast? by mejustme · · Score: 1

    Tempted to say: "and nothing of value was lost".

    On the other hand, looks like we finally found a use for Mac hardware!

    (I have on my asbestos underpants...waiting for the Apple fans to show up...)

    1. Re:Mac laptop toast? by mean+pun · · Score: 1

      Nah, we're compassionate, we just smile superiorly at such ignorance.

      And do you know that asbestos causes cancer?

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  39. obvious redditer is obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wtf noob, there are no "upvotes" on /.

  40. Or a Nerf dart... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Someone needs to remind Apple they're in the business of making computers.

    Well, perhaps they're not. It's all consumer electronics nowadays and with recent iterations that means the Macs as well. Say what you will about OS X and Apple's marketing before, but Macs *were* computers.

    And back then, Pro meant pro. It meant something you could switch out the RAM on, upgrade the storage on, connect a bunch of shit to [without dongles], etc. The style crowd at Apple may not comprehend this, but people still want to do all of that.

    Oh, and some of us crazy ones want actual touchscreens... like the Windows users.

    1. Re:Or a Nerf dart... by mr_mischief · · Score: 1

      They make a $400 touchscreen tablet that will share data with your $2800 laptop.

  41. Double Win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saved his life and trashed the MacBook

  42. lucky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess he's lucky the bullet didn't short the lithium ion battery and cause a fire...

  43. Informed sources are claiming... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    ...the prosecution plans to use the gunman's slaughter of a Macbook as proof that he's sane enough to stand trial.

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  44. Makes me think-insane asylums. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there's any consolation be glad we no longer have insane asylums.

  45. Survived a bullet because of a Macbook? by ruir · · Score: 1

    Praise the Saint Steve Jobs. A miracle, I tell ya, a true miracle!
    I might buy 2 macbooks, one for the back, and another for the torso.

  46. FBI consent to search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fun fact, handing over his computer, though evidence, is a consent to search; this also includes handing your phone to police with the "Geico Insurance App." The FBI looks through his hard drive...soooooo much porn. ðY

  47. Anti-Apple Extremist by tomxor · · Score: 1

    For those that didn't read the article or summary, apparently the gunman hated the new MacBook Pro so much that he shot that instead of the man.

    Airports... One of the few places on Earth where the Apples' are separated from the fan boys, BAM! the distorted anodised aluminium body of a Macbook Pro slams to the floor, a T420 preloaded with linux thrust into the shaking hands of the owner by the gunman, BAM! the spindly casing of a MacBook Air splits into layers and cartwheels down the x-ray conveyor belt like paper plates, a Dell XPS 13 is dropped into the now empty tray, BAM! BAM! BAM! a myriad of traumatised fan-boys litter airport security clutching their replacements in the fetal position, conflicted with the void of their precious and the strange non aluminium chassis of their new device.

    This is what happens to your brain after being exposed to South Park for too long.

  48. Everybody got it all wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The shooter was going after Macbook users.

  49. Not as impressive as Teddy Roosevelt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who was shot on the way to giving a speech as a candidate of the Bull Moose Party, the bullet was slowed by the pages of the speech in his pocket, but Teddy still gave a more than an hour speech, saying that he was shortening it a bit, as the blood loss was making him faint. Most of the pages were still readable, albeit blood covered. Colt .38 cal revolver from 4-5 ft away.
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-speech-that-saved-teddy-roosevelts-life-83479091/
    The shooter, just as the case here, had some mental illness issues.

    Let's see you give that powerpoint (excuse me Apple Keynote) presentation after your macbook stops the bullet. Or will it just be an online Prezi?

  50. Makes me think...9/11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flight UA 93 was everyone dead, but on the good side their bravery prevented a bigger tragedy.

  51. Specs are important; life is more!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now think about this when you're about to buy some of this crappy plastic made windows laptops.

  52. Re:And if it had more memory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shit, if it had been my laptop it would have taken the bullet and still be in working condition.

  53. First time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First time a Mac has ever been used for anything useful.

  54. Pulp Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what you're sayin is that Steve Jobs came down from heaven and stopped these motherfuckin bullets?

  55. Been saying it for decades... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    "Get a Mac."

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  56. A great PR opportunity for Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Replace his MacBook for free, with an upgrade even.

    Hang the damaged one, framed, in an Apple Store or in the Apple Campus at Cupertino captions "A Macbook can save your life."

    Chear PR and good PR at the price.

  57. Stop getting bullet theory from movies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People need to stop getting bullet theory from movies, you might stop a .22, but even a 9mm will penetrate the average school textbook.
    The Macbook didn't stop a bullet fired at him, what it did was catch a bullet that had ricocheted off of one or two things first. This is how cards and Bibles and cigarette lighters and such have been doing it for generations.

    1. Re:Stop getting bullet theory from movies. by AJWM · · Score: 2

      Two telephone books (do they even print those anymore?) will (just) stop a 9mm. That's FMJ -- and a reasonably large metropolitan area telephone book. Even a .22 LR will penetrate a couple of inches.

      Military rifle ammo won't stop for much short of a couple of railroad ties. (The old standard for 7.62mm NATO and similar was that it had to penetrate a steel helmet at 1000 yards. Modern 5.56mm (.223) stuff is a little wimpier -- but will still easily go through a car door at close range.)

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  58. Re:Argument against reducing thickness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    High end Thinkpads still use magnesium last I saw, only the cheaper went plastic.
    It's hardly a bullet stopper, and should it ignite you have a new problem.

    Doesn't matter, a typical laptop will not stop a directed shot at you, the Mac caught a ricochet.