Opera Neon Turns Your Web Browser Into a Mini Desktop (engadget.com)

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Opera Neon Turns Your Web Browser Into a Mini Desktop (engadget.com)

Posted by msmash on Thursday January 12, 2017 @03:20AM from the browsers-world dept.

Opera today announced it's launching a new browser called Opera Neon. From a report on Engadget:It's a separate "concept" browser that shows where software could go. It's much more visual, with an uncluttered look, tabs and shortcuts as bubbles and a side control bar that largely gets out of your way. However, the real fun starts when you want to juggle multiple sites -- this is more of an intelligent desktop than your usual web client. If you want to have two pages running side by side, it's relatively easy: you drag one of your open tabs to the top of the window, creating a split view much like what you see in Windows or the multi-window modes on mobile devices. Also, Neon acknowledges that your browser can frequently double as a media player. You can listen to tunes in the background, or pop out a video in order to switch websites while you watch. These aren't completely novel concepts all by themselves, but it's rare to see all of them in a browser at the same time.

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kde by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:23 · Score: 2, Informative

konqueror Has been doing this for how many years?
1. Re:kde by arth1 · 2017-01-12 04:55 · Score: 2
  
  I believe it started with SGI's IRIX desktop back in the 90s.
  You could type a URL into any file manager window, and the web page would be rendered in the window, and any elements on it optionally accessible as files in a second pane for easy drag/drop/open. You could play music from a web page in one window, watch an mp2 video in another, working with your files in a third, and read slashdot in a fourth.
  This is the same principle, just calling it a browser instead of file manager.
2. Re:kde by grub · 2017-01-12 05:10 · Score: 1
  
  I believe it started with SGI's IRIX desktop back in the 90s.
  
  I used it on an Octane 2(?) for a few years. It was certainly ahead of its time.
  
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3. Re:kde by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 09:41 · Score: 0
  
  The entire idea is ridiculous. Who wants to waste RAM and CPU cycles running an OS within an OS? How long until someone devises the browser that runs in the browser that runs in the browser that runs on the OS?
4. Re:kde by RNelson · 2017-01-13 00:02 · Score: 1
  
  Who wants to waste RAM and CPU cycles running an OS within an OS?
  Emacs users?
Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:24 · Score: 2, Informative

Do not want.
1. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:38 · Score: 1
  
  Why was the parent modded down?
  I did some research, and according to Opera Software's article at Wikipedia it was recently acquired by Chinese interests.
  Now maybe the Wikipedia article is inaccurate, but I doubt it.
2. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:54 · Score: 0
  
  The Wikipedia article is accurate. We even talked about the acquisition right here on Slashdot.
3. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 05:35 · Score: 1
  
  Because Cisco has deliberately compromised customers, on government orders, no Chinese company has. China stuff is more secure than American. So the anti-China racism should be down-modded.
4. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 05:52 · Score: 0
  
  What? How many Chinese phones come with built in spyware and even malware on purpose just to grab your info from the phone? All of them, give or take.
5. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 06:40 · Score: 1
  
  Being anti-China for technology has nothing to do with racism, just like Canadians not wanting HFCS and GMO crap from the USA doesn't mean we hate Americans.
6. Re: Opera = China by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 06:53 · Score: 0
  
  easter egg in Opera presto engine for /. delete from chrome engine ?
Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:30 · Score: 5, Insightful

The article starts with a screenshot, followed by:

As much as modern desktop web browsers can do, their basic concept is stuck in a rut.
Well the screenshot shows that this browser appears to be stuck in the same rut that has plagued browsers, and UI design in general, for a few years now: these goddamn flat, unintuitive UIs forced on the world by Chrome, Firefox, iOS, Android and Windows 8/10.
With these awful flat UIs, it becomes much more difficult to determine how to interact with them. It's unclear what's a button, and what's a label, and what's an icon, and what happens if you click/press in a given area of the screen. That was the whole point of using borders and effects to try to give a three-dimensional appearance to UI elements: it makes it more obvious what they do and how they should be used.
I have no interest in these browsers that keep screwing around with inefficient UI paradigms thought up by web designers, rather than real UI experts. We should really return to UI design techniques that made for usable UIs, instead of the shitty techniques used today that only lead to painful UI experiences.
1. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:54 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  THANK YOU. Unfortunately, I bet the UIs ARE thought up by experts. This seems to me like a classic disconnect between pie in the sky designers and everyday users. They do look good. I totally admit that. They are also completely unfunctional. It reminds me of house that are pretty, but you can't touch anything. It's nice to look good, but now we have to live somewhere.
2. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:57 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah, I hate this flat UI trend as well.
3. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:09 · Score: 0
  
  THANK YOU. Unfortunately, I bet the UIs ARE thought up by experts. This seems to me like a classic disconnect between pie in the sky designers and everyday users. They do look good. I totally admit that. They are also completely unfunctional. It reminds me of house that are pretty, but you can't touch anything. It's nice to look good, but now we have to live somewhere.
  More like "gee the house is beautiful but why are the kitchen sink and stove on different floors?"
4. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anne+Thwacks · 2017-01-12 04:30 · Score: 1
  
  Flat UIs are every bit as useful as flat tyres!
  Unfortunately, not more useful.
  
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5. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by zifn4b · 2017-01-12 04:39 · Score: 1
  With these awful flat UIs, it becomes much more difficult to determine how to interact with them. It's unclear what's a button, and what's a label, and what's an icon, and what happens if you click/press in a given area of the screen. That was the whole point of using borders and effects to try to give a three-dimensional appearance to UI elements: it makes it more obvious what they do and how they should be used.
  If only UI designers could be bothered to read the books that have covered this topic for years:
  
  About Face - Alan Cooper
  Don't Make Me Think - Steve Krug
  You're welcome
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6. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:48 · Score: 0
  
  Designers really need to pay more attention to researchers who make it their business to measure the effectiveness of user-interface designs.
  
  18-to-25-year olds rated flat UIs as slightly more attractive than older adults did. That increased aesthetic appeal may not be worth the usability costs of flat design.
  Young Adults Appreciate Flat Design More than Their Parents Do
  
  The Nielson Norman Group consistently points out usability problems in the flat designs, even to the millenials who prefer it. I can hardly wait for the passing of this fad.
7. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by TuringTest · 2017-01-12 04:57 · Score: 1
  
  Unfortunately, I bet the UIs ARE thought up by experts. This seems to me like a classic disconnect between pie in the sky designers and everyday users.
  Experts UI designers are those who test the interface with everyday users.
  Therefore, when an interface has been designed by an expert in UI design (NOT visual design, but real interaction design), there is no such disconnect.
  
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8. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by reanjr · 2017-01-12 04:59 · Score: 0
  
  If you can't figure out the icons on the left of the screenshot are clickable, you don't have any business commenting on UI design.
9. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by TuringTest · 2017-01-12 05:01 · Score: 1
  
  UI designers have already read those. (I also like Rocket Surgery Made Easy, the sequel to Don't Make Me Think).
  The problem is that user interfaces and web applications are largely being designed by developers who are not UI designers.
  
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10. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by AmiMoJo · 2017-01-12 05:14 · Score: 1
  
  If you look carefully, all they appear to have done is reinvent the Netscape sidebar. They have a browser window on the right, sidebar with chat client on the left, and some random toolbars around the edge.
  I suppose maybe it's like the old Windows 3.11 MDI interfaces.
  
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11. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by OneHundredAndTen · 2017-01-12 08:37 · Score: 1
  
  THANK YOU. Unfortunately, I bet the UIs ARE thought up by experts.
  You mean, like the ones who came with the Gnome 3.*, Unity and KDE 4.* monstrosities? Experts at what? At making life miserable for users?
12. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by jasmusic · 2017-01-12 11:21 · Score: 0
  
  The problem is that user interfaces and web applications are largely being designed by developers who are not UI designers.
  UX is almost a fake discipline. I've never seen it used for anything other than feature reduction. It habitually obfuscates workflow and makes advanced functionality harder instead of easier.
13. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by zifn4b · 2017-01-12 23:21 · Score: 1
  
  UI designers have already read those
  If so, UI designers must have very poor reading comprehension because Alan Cooper would never advocate the type of UI in question. In that case, book recommendations probably don't matter if UI designers just all think they know better and probably don't even know what HCI stands for.
  
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14. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by TuringTest · 2017-01-12 23:21 · Score: 1
  
  That may be because you have only seen UX used for products aimed at a widespread general public, which benefit greatly from feature reduction - as they must support very different workflows, with people who use the product with little training.
  UX is the science that got us input forms (it was called ergonomics back then), standard widgets, WYSIWYG and direct manipulation. It has also created the new layout in MS Office (which is successful in its goal to make visible a larger set of the available features), so it's not true that it only supports feature reduction. I work in a company that a very complex software suit, and UX approaches are greatly enhancing the user workflows from its previous, engineer-designed interface, without removing a single feature.
  
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15. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by TuringTest · 2017-01-12 23:27 · Score: 1
  
  Alan Cooper would never advocate the type of UI in question.
  What kind of UI? The kind where designers watch users having problems with some parts of the design, and fix those parts based on empiric evidence? I think Cooper would advocate that.
  
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16. Re:Flat, unintuitive UI? No thanks! by zifn4b · 2017-01-13 08:37 · Score: 1
  
  What kind of UI? The kind where designers watch users having problems with some parts of the design, and fix those parts based on empiric evidence?
  Like I said, UI designers wouldn't even know what HCI stands for. Here's some reading for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... The principles of HCI not only apply to software UI's but hardware UI's as well. In fact, it started with hardware UI's. Why do you suppose it occurred to software UI developers to create "buttons" that look depressed when you click or have a click event at all? Take a look at your remote control to your TV and see if you can figure it out. By the way, I went to a major school where HCI research is still being done.
  
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Now on a Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:36 · Score: 0

If you need an Apple to run a browser you are doing something wrong. Funny how they manipulated the video to remove the Apple logo in the beginning of the video and left it there later in the video.
1. Re:Now on a Chromebook by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:07 · Score: 0
  
  And yet Opera Neon is currently only available for Windows. Go figure...
No thanks by zifn4b · 2017-01-12 03:37 · Score: 1

I prefer the Packard Bell Navigator

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1. Re:No thanks by jim_deane · 2017-01-12 05:00 · Score: 1
  
  Over Microsoft Bob?
A desktop ... by PPH · 2017-01-12 03:38 · Score: 0

... in my browser which is on my desktop?
Yo dawg!

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1. Re:A desktop ... by Zocalo · 2017-01-12 03:49 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  This is just the first step. Eventually, we'll have systemd-browser and the OS will be redundant.
  
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2. Re:A desktop ... by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:01 · Score: 1
  
  It's browsers and desktops all the way down
  You can now run a browser(IE) on the desktop of a virtual machine(Win95) running in a browser with an interface that looks like a desktop (opera neon) on a real machine that sits on your desktop
  just run open internet explorer in windows95 running on https://win95.ajf.me/ using opera neon ;)
3. Re:A desktop ... by Anne+Thwacks · 2017-01-12 05:37 · Score: 0
  
  Provided your definition of "run" includes sleepwalking.
  
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4. Re:A desktop ... by cerberusss · 2017-01-12 09:39 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  This is just the first step. Eventually, we'll have systemd-browser and the OS will be redundant.
  Don't be silly. You'll always need something between the hardware and the rest. And that's where Emacs comes in.
  
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What for? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:40 · Score: 0

Who needs another web browser?
1. Re:What for? by minstrelmike · 2017-01-12 06:33 · Score: 2
  
  We need a new web browser because people have finally figured out that apps are too tricky to deal with. Apple is pita and android is 14,000 different versions. They need a phone-sized broswer that looks and sort of acts like an app.
TechDirt.com being sued by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:40 · Score: 0

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170111/11440836465/techdirts-first-amendment-fight-life.shtml
ya a smuck who didnt invent email is suing techdirt cause TD proved he didnt own it via the rfcs etc ....
you wont have any real news if this kinda crap keeps going
Will Servo support this, too? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:50 · Score: 1

Will Servo, Mozilla's new web engine written in the Rust programming language, be getting support for this, too?
1. Re: Will Servo support this, too? by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:02 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Dunno, rusted servos are usually a death trap
fp! fp! fp! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:51 · Score: 0

I've fulfilled my greatest lifelong goal by getting first post on a Slashdot story! FP! Yay! I win! You can all bow before my superior first posting skills! FP! FP! FP!
This FP is dedicated to my favorite TV show, Star Trek: Voyager!
FP! FP! FP!
1. Re:fp! fp! fp! by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2017-01-12 05:26 · Score: 1
  
  No, you've but achieved a trifecta of failure:
  1. Posted AC.
  2. Failed to include 6N44 Manifesto.
  3. Did not get FP.
  
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rofl by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 03:53 · Score: 0

like chromeos and firefoxos.
Thanks but no thanks.
1. Re:rofl by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2017-01-12 05:23 · Score: 1
  
  Chromeos? Those are like Oreos, only shinier, right?
  
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2. Re:rofl by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 07:28 · Score: 0
  
  no you mindless idiot. It's the OS...
3. Re:rofl by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2017-01-12 09:03 · Score: 1
  
  Humour. Sense of. Grow one.
  
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4. Re:rofl by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-13 09:12 · Score: 0
  
  Then he should have written it with the correct capitalization: ChromeOS. Since he didn't, fair game, dipshit.
Opera Neon is only available Windows at the moment by donaldm · 2017-01-12 03:57 · Score: 1

The Opera web browser is multiplatform, however as I have stated in the subject heading Opera Neon is currently available for MS Widows and since I only run Linux I can't really evaluate it and I am not going to fire up a Windows 10 virtual machine just to evaluate it. I am intrigued enough to download it when it becomes available for Linux.
The split screen feature may be useful like what I find in KDE's Dolphin which is extremely customizable, but then again I can easily fire up Chrome, Konqueror, Firefox, QupZilla or any browsers that I wish to install and have them running side by side or even in different desktops if I wish.
One very important feature I do like with the above web browsers I mentioned is the fact that you can setup repository updating for them so when an update becomes available I can update at my convenience. I am not that sure with Opera and I don't like updates being installed behind my back.

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Bla bla bla by Master5000 · 2017-01-12 04:00 · Score: 0

We're going down and we have no new ideas please use our shit so we don't go bankrupt.
1. Re:Bla bla bla by Merk42 · 2017-01-12 04:52 · Score: 1
  
  This seems like a lot of 'new ideas', though.
No, but thanks! by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:04 · Score: 0

I prefer to have both my browser and my window manager separated.
Re:Opera Neon is only available Windows at the mom by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:09 · Score: 0

Opera Neon is currently available for MS Widows.
And they're running it on MacOS in the video. Go figure...
Re:Opera Neon is only available Windows at the mom by MrDalliard · 2017-01-12 04:34 · Score: 1

Errr, nope. Just downloaded and running it. Seems fine on Mac OS.
I downloaded it and... by CustomSolvers2 · 2017-01-12 04:38 · Score: 1

... it looks and feels certainly different. Even its logo is weird. It has quite a few animations and the default layout isn't the typical one.

I am not in a position to recommend/disadvise it. No idea about its reliability and other actually-relevant-to-me aspects. I am not even sure whether I will use it at all. But it seems that might attract some interest (among young people?) because of being somehow innovative.

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1. Re:I downloaded it and... by CaptainDork · 2017-01-12 05:07 · Score: 1
  
  I downloaded it and evaluated it thoroughly for the entire length of my attention span (about 4.3 minutes).
  I don't see and safety extensions like ad blockers or noscripts.
  I kinda like the side bar and stuff, but I'll stick with armoured Firefox for now.
  
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2. Re:I downloaded it and... by CustomSolvers2 · 2017-01-12 05:38 · Score: 1
  
  Just to see how it behaves under tough conditions, I went to re-watch a video I saw this morning with another browser + ad-blocker (lots of popups in that site). I was able to play the video without seeing a single popup. But then I started hearing something and realised that the popups were opened in different windows on the background; not perfect, but at least they didn't bother me. Also I looked at its settings and the popups should be blocked (perhaps it stopped some of them, but certainly not all). In any case, I guess that you might install a popup-blocker, if not now, in the near future.
  
  After using it a bit more, I have seen other features which I like: it seems to start/load pages quicker than usual (?), all the open windows remain after closing the browser unless you expressly close them, there is an easily-accessible link to capture any displayed part, it has its own task manager, etc. I might test it further during the next days and even decide to include it within my main browsers (currently using 4, for different pages and purposes :)).
  
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3. Re:I downloaded it and... by CustomSolvers2 · 2017-01-13 21:58 · Score: 1
  
  Apparently, Opera isn't planning to continue the development of this browser (what they said in their Twitter account), but they might include some of its features in their main product. I think that this isn't a so good idea, because the Neon approach does seem promising to me. I will definitively continue using it as one of my main browsers.
  
  I know already the kind of tasks which it will be taking care of: web-searches and punctual visits to major pages (e.g., reading a newspaper or watching a Youtube video), where its behaviour has been proven excellent so far. If I had to use one web browser to do everything, I would certainly not choose it; basically, because it cannot deal with quite a few scenarios (what is quite logical for a prototype). But I don't need to make that decision anyway, as far as am happy with my using-different-browsers-for-different-tasks approach.
  
  It is very refreshing to see worthy innovations in apparently-not-improvable areas and I think that those taking the risk and (even only just partially) succeeding should always be supported and motivated. Hopefully, Opera will be able to adequately maximise what seems a good first step in a promising direction.
  
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Re:Opera Neon is only available Windows at the mom by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:47 · Score: 0

If you mess with the download link a bit (change os=windows to os=mac) then you can see that they have a mac version as well. The reason you don't see it is probably because they do some user sniffing and if it isn't supported, default to windows. ( I tried os=linux, deb, debian, ubuntu, but it didn't do anything).
Works on Windows 7, if anyone wants to try it there.
It is pretty nice, give a new feeling to a browser, but I still prefer Vivaldi. It is nice that it give a fully intergrated feeling, but the moment to start moving it around, that feeling disappears. It is nice for a concept though, I wouldn't mind seeing more.
Re:Dear reserected Opera team, by Merk42 · 2017-01-12 04:48 · Score: 2

It uses the same rendering engine as Opera and Chrome, Blink.
fast forwards to the 90s by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 04:53 · Score: 0

AOL browser/platform anyone?
No Linux version by Gavagai80 · 2017-01-12 04:55 · Score: 1

10 years ago, they treated Linux as an equal platform. Not lately.

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1. Re:No Linux version by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 08:36 · Score: 0
  
  10 years ago, they treated Linux as an equal platform. Not lately.
  Amen, bro.
2017 by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 05:10 · Score: 0

Opera lost relevance 10 years ago. Outdated and underperforming. Looks like nothing new here.
How is this better? by Tony+Isaac · 2017-01-12 06:38 · Score: 1

It reminds me of the 90's, when every computer manufacturer put their own "user friendly" interface in front of MS Windows, in an attempt to make the computer simpler for non-technical people to use. I never saw one of these add-ons that was actually better than Generic Windows. The first step after buying a new computer was always, uninstall the manufacturer's crapware.
This looks like the same kind of nonsense to me.
chrome clone.. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 06:46 · Score: 0

presto forever
1. Re:chrome clone.. by pigsycyberbully · 2017-01-12 10:45 · Score: 0
  
  presto forever
  About Opera Version information
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  In memory of Geir Ivarsøy. Copyright © 1995-2013 Opera Software ASA. All rights reserved.
I tried this. by Anonymous Coward · 2017-01-12 06:48 · Score: 0

I tried doing this "all in one" page thing a while back via iframes and proxy to beat the websites trying to escape said iframes.
Had draggable windows, dockable, task manager, note taker and so on. Even horribly basic image editor using colored DIVs absolutely positioned. (got slow real fast!)
Even made custom scrapers for certain websites, or embedded video players for video sites and so on.
Had this activity tracker that was basically like your own Personal Stalker that showed you what you have been doing regardless of features you were using. (oh boy was that a pain to write)
Global undo kept track of things too.
Whenever I was done with editing things in-page, I exported it to a file download (via a textarea since I could never figure out a way to do that in-page at the time).
I could also easily embed that data straight in to the webpage and it would be accessible without having to re-open it.
Editing the page in real-time was a feature as well, including any of the "programs". I could get a dump of a function, rewrite, update, done. I never finished writing a way of exporting that nicely. I usually just copy-pasted the webpage editor and replaced the whole function once it worked.
It was fun, but buggy as high Hell. And dealing with websites that decide to change their API for no reason other than changes sake was not much fun at all.
It'd probably run a lot better these days given browsers aren't horribly shitty like they used to be.
Not to mention loads of useful features like local storage and file API, HTML5 video and audio would allow viewing those files so much easier (even if needing to convert them in-browser to a valid format!).
I might consider making a modern version of it. Or of this is open source, contribute some ideas to it. Or even suggest ideas if not open source. I helped on Opera Unite testing, so I will be familiar.
I wrote a semi similar joke version a few years back for my friends when they were moving apartments that had a virtual internet for when their internet wasn't up.
Had a procedural web on it. Mainly filled with inane comments and memes. As you do when poking fun at friends.
this GUI it's so bad by qQ7eBMsfM5gs · 2017-01-12 07:36 · Score: 2

I even threw up a little in my mouth.
OPs please give a warning about modern UI posts, think of your readers who just ate!
Re:Opera Neon is only available Windows at the mom by nadass · 2017-01-12 08:19 · Score: 0

Errr, nope. Just downloaded and running it. Seems fine on Mac OS.
@MrDilliard, rather impressive considering the page (http://www.opera.com/computer/neon) clearly states "Opera Neon concept browser for Windows"
Re:Opera Neon is only available Windows at the mom by nadass · 2017-01-12 08:23 · Score: 0

@donaldm, the Opera Neon is the Chromium engine but sneakily carries over theMSIE browsing history upon first install/run. Fortunately it does not carry over browsing history after that first-run scenario. (If it did, then it'd almost be cool... on second thought, it's the Vivaldi browser.)
But why? by hackel · 2017-01-12 09:59 · Score: 4, Interesting

What advantage is there to having a browser manage its own windows instead of the desktop window manager? It's not like this is new—almost every Windows program used to have a multiple-document interface that let you arrange multiple document windows inside of a primary application window. We moved away from this UI for a reason. It makes no sense. It's duplicating the functionality of the primary GUI and window manager. You can easily achieve the same result using existing tiling window managers and other tools. Is there some actual advantage here that I'm missing?
1. Re:But why? by tezbobobo · 2017-01-12 11:47 · Score: 1
  
  Because windows uses a one size fits all approach, where this program knows that it is specifically dealing only with websites and media modules, and acts accordingly.
  A personal note: I switched to Opera about 8 months ago. Doing my dissertation I would have many, many tabs open concurrently, and really started to notice the memory issues that Chrome has. Since switching I have been really happy with Opera and it is now my main browser. It supports all my usual extensions OOTB and is responsive. I still have Chrome. Firefox and Edge for the same reasons that everyone has, but Opera is fantastic.
I tried it by jago25_98 · 2017-01-12 13:30 · Score: 1

I just did some tests.
It's:
- appears to be a Chromium based fork. Settings menu is almost the same
- lighter on RAM and CPU than chrome with an adblocker. Tends to be a bit quicker on an ageing setup
- Chinese owned so probably has to comply with Chinese state requests so if you're trying to keep your data footprint to Google that could be a fail but it's hard to really know huh?
- crashes a lot. Crashed once just posting this. Crashed on a scripting benchmark
- not particularly efficient on screen real estate with the right hand side box visual tabs
Not a solution for my ageing computer. Still struggling on with Firefox.

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