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Hamas 'Honey Trap' Dupes Israeli Soldiers (securityweek.com)

Posted by EditorDavid on from the soldier-social-media dept.

wiredmikey quotes Security Week: The smartphones of dozens of Israeli soldiers were hacked by Hamas militants pretending to be attractive young women online, an Israeli military official said Wednesday. Using fake profiles on Facebook with alluring photos, Hamas members contacted the soldiers via groups on the social network, luring them into long chats, the official told journalists on condition of anonymity.

Dozens of the predominantly lower-ranked soldiers were convinced enough by the honey trap to download fake applications which enabled Hamas to take control of their phones, according to the official.

109 comments

  1. alluring photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of their ankles

    1. Re:alluring photos by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      I've run into exactly the same problem, I went to Ashley Madison and talked to dozens of attractive young women online, but it turned out they were all fake. And now my credit card is getting charges on it from Romania. Do Hamas operate there too?

  2. Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    How will Israel ever recover?!

    1. Re:Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      By killing some Palestinians, taking some land, and building a settlement on it. It's only the justification that varies: Cyber-terrorists?

    2. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      You know how I know you don't understand what you're talking about?

    3. Re:Dozens! by Shane_Optima · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is Hamas we're talking about here. They're based in Gaza, not the West Bank. Israel has not "taken" any land in Gaza for a very long time. On the contrary, they withdrew entirely from Gaza in 2005, and it was this withdrawal that allowed the murderous Hamas party to be immediately voted into power.

      Now please, let's move on to your next talking about the blockade or perhaps "the world's largest open-air prison" so that I can remind everyone of Gaza's other border.

    4. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's a pretty one-sided version of events. Israel denies Gazans airspace, access to their coastline, and blocks imports. Palestinian children are stunted growth because the Israeli government blocked even pasta from coming in.

      And yes, Palestinians elected Hamas because they wanted to throw out the existing corrupt party, and since Israelis elected a right winger who said he'd force concessions from Palestinians they voted the same right back.

    5. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So Shane here responds to someone's pro-Palestinians comment and gets marked off topic. Yet their comment was a reasonable response. But twice now two pro-Palestinians comments are marked insightful. So it "appears" that it's ok if you on the side of Palestinians but not the Israelis? I find that rather interesting to be honest. Hamas has clearly stated that they refuse to accept Israel right to exist and some here are ok with that?

        If my memory serves me correctly wasn't it the Palestinians that walked away from the bargaining table when they were pretty much offered everything they requested?

      I often wonder if the world would be better off, just standing back from the middle east and let them all work things out on their own. The UN created the country of Israel, it wasn't the Israelis that did it. It wasn't Israel's fault when they were attack what 2 or 3 times in the early days. But even though they won those wars they are told they have to give back whatever land they won as a result. That makes no sense consider that prizes always go to the victor. That's like winning a race and being told you have to give the money back because someone doesn't like it????

    6. Re: Dozens! by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Informative

      And why shouldn't Israel do that? After all Hamas denies Israel and its population the right to exist.

      --
      "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
    7. Re:Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, but, Israelis suffered under Nazi rule, so they have right to do whatever they want now, 60 years later. They should not have to abide by the United Nations or any international community, or international law, because they are the chosen people.

    8. Re: Dozens! by Shane_Optima · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah, I see we're at the second talking point already.

      Why can't they get their food and other imports from Egypt, with whom they share a common border (as well as a common language, ethnicity and religion)? Where are the legions of delusional and astroturfing internet trolls protesting Egypt's blockade? Why is everything automagically the Jews' fault, every goddamn time?

      Hamas, the democratically elected government of Gaza, has sworn to kill all Jews. Not just Israelis, Jews. It's thus entirely reasonable for Israeli to deny Nazi Germany's retarded little brother[1] access to all imports from their side (but of course, they don't even go nearly that far.)

      1. My profound apologies to both actual retards and actual Nazis for the comparison.

    9. Re: Dozens! by Shane_Optima · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm not sure where some people get off with saying the Jews control world media / public opinion. Seems pretty clear to me that, despite a reasonably powerful Washington lobby, they don't have anything on the mind controlling Palestinian overlords.

    10. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hamas have no power to deny Israel anything

    11. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      That's a pretty one-sided version of events. Israel denies Gazans airspace, access to their coastline, and blocks imports. Palestinian children are stunted growth because the Israeli government blocked even pasta from coming in.

      And yes, Palestinians elected Hamas because they wanted to throw out the existing corrupt party, and since Israelis elected a right winger who said he'd force concessions from Palestinians they voted the same right back.

      That's correct. Israel is blockading Gaza. A blockade is an act of war, under international law. A country that is being attacked has a right to defend itself.

      I would like both sides to strictly follow international law and abide by humanitarian principles and human rights, but neither side is doing that. Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch are correct to condemn Hamas for targeting civilians, but they are also correct to condemn Israel for doing the same thing.

      The main difference between Hamas and Israel is that Israel kills civilians and says, "We killed them by accident." Hamas kills civilians and says, "We did it deliberately."

      Based on many Amnesty International reports, I think the Israelis are lying.

    12. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      http://www.theatlantic.com/int...
      Who Started the Israel-Gaza Conflict?
      By Robert Wright
      Nov 16 2012,
      A summary of events in the renewal of Israeli-Palestinian hostilities, Nov 8 - Nov 15
      By Emily Hauser
      There's a constant back and forth, and on both sides, there's always something or someone to avenge.
      According to Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as of November 13, Palestinian militants had fired 797 rockets into Israel in the course of 2012 , and according to the Israeli human rights organization Btselem, between January 2009 (the conclusion of the last all-out Gaza war) and September of this year, 25 Israelis were killed by Palestinians, and 314 Palestinians were killed by Israeli security forces, with six more being killed by Israeli civilians.
      Wednesday November 14
      Reports emerged that Israel has targeted Ahmed Jabari, head of Hamas's military wing; Israel confirmed the assassination, citing his "decade-long terrorist activity," and said that killing was the part of an operation in which the military struck 20 different targets across Gaza. HaAretz [Note: Later reports indicate that Jabari was considering a permanent truce agreement at the time of his assassination]

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11...
      Op-Ed Contributor
      Israel's Shortsighted Assassination
      By GERSHON BASKIN
      Published: November 16, 2012
      Passing messages between the two sides, I was able to learn firsthand that Mr. Jabari wasn't just interested in a long-term cease-fire; he was also the person responsible for enforcing previous cease-fire understandings brokered by the Egyptian intelligence agency. Mr. Jabari enforced those cease-fires only after confirming that Israel was prepared to stop its attacks on Gaza. On the morning that he was killed, Mr. Jabari received a draft proposal for an extended cease-fire with Israel, including mechanisms that would verify intentions and ensure compliance. This draft was agreed upon by me and Hamas's deputy foreign minister, Mr. Hamad, when we met last week in Egypt.
      Gershon Baskin is a co-chairman of the Israel Palestine Center for Research and Information, a columnist for The Jerusalem Post and the initiator and negotiator of the secret back channel for the release of Gilad Shalit.

    13. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 2

      http://www.sciencemag.org/cont...
      Science 24 August 2007:
      Vol. 317 no. 5841 pp. 1039-1040
      DOI: 10.1126/science.1144241

      Policy Forum
      Sacred Barriers to Conflict Resolution
      Scott Atran, Robert Axelrod, Richard Davis
      Resolution of quarrels arising from conflicting sacred values, as in the Middle East, may require concessions that acknowledge the opposition's core concerns

      We went to the Middle East in February 2007 to directly probe issues of material trade-offs and symbolic concessions with leaders of the major parties to the Israel-Palestine dispute. We asked 14 interviewees in Syria, Palestine, and Israel to verify statements for citation. No off-the-record statements contradicted these.

      Responses were consistent with our previous findings (1), with one important difference. Previously, people with sacred values had responded "No" to the proposed trade-off; "No" accompanied by emotional outrage and increased support for violence to the trade-off coupled with a substantial and credible material incentive; and "Yes, perhaps" to trade-offs that also involve symbolic concessions (of no material benefit) from the other side. Leaders responded in the same way, except that the symbolic concession was not enough in itself, but only a necessary condition to opening serious negotiations involving material issues as well. For example, Musa Abu Marzouk (former chairman, and current deputy chairman, of Hamas) said "No" to a trade-off for peace without granting a right of return; a more emphatic "No, we do not sell ourselves for any amount," when given a trade-off with a substantial material incentive (credible offering of substantial U.S. aid for the rebuilding of Palestinian infrastructure); but "Yes, an apology is important, but only as a beginning. It's not enough, because our houses and land were taken away from us and something has to be done about that."

      Similarly, Binyamin Netanyahu (former Israeli prime minister and current opposition leader in parliament) responded to our question, "Would you seriously consider accepting a two-state solution following the 1967 borders if all major Palestinian factions, including Hamas, were to recognize the right of the Jewish people to an independent state in the region?" with the answer: "Yes, but the Palestinians would have to show that they sincerely mean it, change their textbooks and anti-Semitic characterizations and then allow some border adjustments so that Ben Gurion [Airport] would be out of range of shoulder-fired missiles."

      http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05...
      Who Wants to Be a Martyr?
      By Scott Atran
      May 5, 2003

      One given in the war against terrorism seems to be that suicide attackers are evil, deluded or homicidal misfits who thrive in poverty, ignorance and anarchy.

      (Actually they are well-adjusted, successful, and educated. Reviews the evidence based on interviews with terrorists.)

    14. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      http://www.juancole.com/2014/0...
      The Hateful Likud Charter Calls for Destruction of Any Palestinian
      State
      Aug. 4, 2014
      By Jonathan Weiler

      Since virtually every comment on Hamas in American media includes the assertion that the group's Charter rejects Israel's right to exist, it's worth noting the following from the Likud Platform of 1999:

      a. "The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel."

      b. "Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel. The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem"

      c. "The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river."

      d. "The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.

      There have been some updates to the platform more recently, reflecting Israel's withdrawal of settlements from Gaza in 2005. But the Likud Party has *never* in its statements of principles, accepted a Palestinian State. Its electoral partner, Yisrael Beitenu, has likewise categorically rejected the possibility of an independent Palestinian State, insisting that the idea is nothing more than a ploy to facilitate the destruction of Israel.

      The Hamas charter, of course, does more than just reject Israel as a sovereign political entity. It's a vile document that echoes some of the worst anti-Semitic tropes of the modern era. But on the central question of one side denying the other's legitimacy - it's hard to ignore the symmetry between Likud - the party of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - and Hamas.

    15. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11...
      Op-Ed Contributor
      America's Failed Palestinian Policy
      By YOUSEF MUNAYYER
      November 23, 2012

      Israel's U.S.-supported policies send the message that the only time the Palestinians will make gains is through arms. The policies penalize peaceful efforts by Fatah, and reward violence by Hamas. Fatah, in 1991, recognized Israel's existence, renounced violence, and agreed to negotiations leading to a Palestinian state. Instead, Israel tripled the number of settlers and Fatah is no closer to a state. Hamas, in 2006, won the election, and refused to recognize Israel's existence or renouce violence. Having seen what happened to Fatah, Hamas refused, and was put under siege. Israeli settlers left Gaza, and Israel returned thousands of prisoners in return for an Israeli captive, which showed Hamas that they could acchieve results from violence. The latest cease-fire rewards Hamas for violence again, by getting Israel to ease collective punishment and extajudicial assassinations (which are against international law anyway). But Israel always ignores the underlying causes -- the denial of human rights and dignity.

    16. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      Why can't they get their food and other imports from Egypt

      Because the Israeli and US government have both put pressure on Egypt not to allow free flow across the border.

      Egypt is the second largest recipient of US aid, after Israel.

    17. Re: Dozens! by Shane_Optima · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Of food? The USA will cut off all aid and risk allowing Islamist goons to take over Egypt if they send food into Gaza? Uh huh.

      If one cares about helping the people of Gaza, the logical route is to go through Egypt, who regardless of any American pressures that may exist do not have the real or imagined prejudices that the Israelis do. The tactic to use, if this were really about helping the Palestinians (as opposed to it being primarily about screwing with Israel for the nth time) would be to shame Egyptians into acting, to never stop talking about the Egyptian blockade of Gaza. Regardless of whether or not US pressure is involved, this tactic stands a far, far greater chance of actually working and helping all of those millions of stunted Palestinian children the OP alleged.

      It's a test of intellectual honesty, one of many tests that the popular Palestinian rights movement fails at spectacularly. The Egyptians are not only equally complicit, they are (at least in theory) much easier to persuade than the Zionist Entity. The null hypothesis is that this is a cocktail of masochistic bullshit invented for political purposes, and you've failed to reject that null hypothesis.

    18. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And yes, Palestinians elected Hamas because"

      Lol. And yes, Iraqis elected Al Qaeda because...

      You can just stop right there.

    19. Re: Dozens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Hamas denies Israel and its population the right to exist.

      You are confused. It is Israel that denies Palestinians the right to exist and the right to their land. Israel is the 21st century Nazi Germany, like it or not.

    20. Re: Dozens! by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      A country that is being attacked has a right to defend itself.

      Exactly.

      That's correct. Israel is blockading Gaza. A blockade is an act of war, under international law.

      Which is an example of a country defending itself from outside attackers. Did you already forget the 1000s of rockets fired at Israel not long ago?

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    21. Re: Dozens! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      But even though they won those wars they are told they have to give back whatever land they won as a result.

      Remember the Alamo, we should give back Texas...

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    22. Re:Dozens! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure that exactly zero people who suffered under the Nazis were Israeli.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    23. Re: Dozens! by nbauman · · Score: 1

      As I documented in those articles I posted, the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israelis killed is about ten to one. Most of those thousands of rockets fall harmlessly without injuring anyone. A few of them injured Israelis, and even fewer killed Israelis. The Israelis respond with massive retaliation, killing dozens, hundreds or thousands of Palestinians.

      As I also documented, the Palestinians have made many proposals to stop the fighting, and Israel has responded by killing the Palestinians who made peace offers and escalating the fighting. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11... Israel's Shortsighted Assassination By Gershon Baskin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      I've been following the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since the 1970s. At one time I was raising money for technology development and medical research in Israel. In the 1970s, it made me very uncomfortable to see that the Israelis were killing many Palestinians, and it was rare for a Palestinian to kill an Israeli. What disturbed me most of all was the cases of Israelis killing innocent children -- not teenagers in demonstrations but young children, even 4-year-olds.

      I used to wonder why the Palestinians didn't respond to these killings with violence of their own, and finally they did, although the suicide bombings and bus attacks were more horrific than I had ever expected.

      The Israelis responded with what their generals and politicians actually called "disproportionate force" (until their laywers told them to shut up because it was a violation of international law). A Palestinian faction (often opposed to Hamas) would fire a rocket which landed harmlessly in a field, and the IDF would respond with a massive response that would kill Palestinians (who sometimes had nothing to do with the original attack).

      An MIT professor once prepared a report which showed that the Palestinians would fire a rocket, and the Israelis would fire back with a massive response. Sometimes there would be a long pause in the Palestinian rocket attacks -- and the Israelis would launch another attack to provoke them.

      And the IDF would shoot and kill non-violent demonstrators, and innocent bystanders, in incidents reminiscent of Kent State.

      There were Palestinian teenagers who had gone to George Soros' "Peace Camp" in New England, who sat around the campfire singing songs with Israeli teenagers, who returned to Israel and were killed by the IDF for doing nothing.

      I've read the Amnesty International reports, and the responses from CAMERA and MEMRI, and I've spoken to many Israeli government officials. After investigating and listening to all sides, it was clear to me that the Israelis started the killings, and weren't trying to break the cycle of violence.

      The Amnesty International reports were horribly similar to the stories my own relatives told me about the pogroms in Europe.

      They taught me, "Wir schweigen nicht." I recommend that lesson to you.

    24. Re: Dozens! by wyHunter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I haven't seen any concentration camps, nor genocide happening in Israel or any of the territories. Perhaps if folks stopped blowing up buses in Israel?

    25. Re: Dozens! by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      As I documented in those articles I posted, the ratio of Palestinians killed to Israelis killed is about ten to one. Most of those thousands of rockets fall harmlessly without injuring anyone. A few of them injured Israelis, and even fewer killed Israelis. The Israelis respond with massive retaliation, killing dozens, hundreds or thousands of Palestinians.

      Meaningless statistic. Being better at war isn't a crime. Firing rockets is an act of war, even if they are destroyed. Do you expect an aircraft carrier to sit and let an enemy boat fire missiles at it all day and not respond because the CWS is able to take out the missiles?

      As I also documented, the Palestinians have made many proposals to stop the fighting, and Israel has responded by killing the Palestinians who made peace offers and escalating the fighting. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11... [nytimes.com] Israel's Shortsighted Assassination By Gershon Baskin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

      So has Israel, what is your point? Ever peace negotiation has ended with the Palestinians storming off with a refusal to acknowledge Israel's sovereignty. You can't negotiate with people who refuse to acknowledge your rights.

      Look, just admit it, you are blind to one side's attacks and only see the "horror" of Israel attacking in self defense.

      --
      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
  3. To what end? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

    What was the overall purpose of this? Just to waste the time of the soldiers? I'm sure if they are in a combat situation, they ignore facebook for a while.

    1. Re:To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The hacked phones gave up their GPS and call history data. This data could be used to plan attacks or kidnapping.

    2. Re:To what end? by joe_frisch · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The specific suggestions in the previous email are valid.

      There are also possibilities of blackmail if they learn something about the soldiers. Then there is just the tactical value of having more information about the enemy - having the cells suddenly turn off might be in indication of an impending operation.

    3. Re:To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The hacked phones gave up their GPS and call history data. This data could be used to plan attacks or kidnapping.

      AKA "acts of war".

      You do realize that the latest UN resolution deems the Western Wall in Jerusalem as "illegally occupied territory"?

      By giving the Palestinians everything they openly asked for (it's not hard to find evidence that their goal is STILL the utter eradication of Israel and the genocide of its inhabitants...), the stage for war is set?

      Do you really trust Obama's judgement here? Syria? ISIS? Egypt? Libya? Any of those Obama/Middle East cock-ups ring a bell?

      Obama just set the stage for war in the Middle East - hopefully it happens before the Iranians get the nukes Obama provided a path for.

      Because once the Iranians get nukes, Saudi Arabia and Egypt won't be far behind - then you can REALLY say, "Thanks, Obama!"

    4. Re:To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're a moron. Obama didn't "come up" with the 2 state solution that Bibi's been LYING FOR 22+ YEARS to say he supports, along with peace.

      No, Obama just effectively destroyed the two-state solution by removing any incentive for the Palestinians to negotiate in good faith.

      Or maybe you can point to a Palestinian school book with a map that actually shows Israel?

      Do you really think the Palestinians want anything other than the utter destruction of Israel? What color is the background radiation in YOUR universe?

      And you called me a moron? You're too stupid to know you're stupid. You'd probably drown in your own drool if your mother didn't come down in the basement a couple times a night to check up on you.

    5. Re:To what end? by TWX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yep. There are lots of ways of using data from the phones. Establish patterns of movement, and then be able to spot when movement patterns change. Spot when phones are turned of en-masse. Identify family members in order to kidnap or otherwise coerce the military person into changing behavior for one's benefit. Possibly even get lucky, if the military member uses the phone to access sensitive servers through some kind of VPN, steal their credentials.

      --
      Do not look into laser with remaining eye.
    6. Re:To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do you really think the Palestinians want anything other than the utter destruction of Israel?" You seem to think ALL PALESTINIANS want the same things.

      BECAUSE YOU ARE A MORON.

    7. Re:To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do you really think the Palestinians want anything other than the utter destruction of Israel?" You seem to think ALL PALESTINIANS want the same things.

      BECAUSE YOU ARE A MORON.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

      How many towels does your mother go through every day sopping up your drool?

    8. Re: To what end? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realise you lose all credibility in any argument when you talk like an ignorant teenager?

    9. Re:To what end? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Similar apps are alleged to have allowed russians to target artillery in Ukraine.

      --
      She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
    10. Re:To what end? by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      He's not talking about the two state solution, which, until recently, the State of Israel supported (remember the Gaza withdrawal?).

  4. Cellphones have been a problem for a long time by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 0

    Soldiers often phone their mothers to complain about their commanders Who then have to endure the wrath of jewish mothers!!!

  5. Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Rujiel · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wonder if one of the nations that created stuxnet will play up its vulnerability for the millionth time after this.

    1. Re:Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Anti-semitic much?

    2. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that anti-semitic? It's using past actions to predict future behaviour. Israel is very predictable in it's war crimes.

      Call me when the PaliSIMIANS negotiate in good faith.

      Tell me when the PaliSIMIANS start teaching their children with maps that show Israel and give up the goal of obliterating that blot on Dar al-Islam.

      Oh, wait, you don't know WHY Islam regards the very existence of Israel as an insult? And why Muslims act even more medieval and barbaric towards Israel than they do to anyone else. (But don't worry, Al Andalus is next in line after Israel. That would be Spain. I wonder how accommodating and Neville Chamberlain-esque the EU weenies will be once rockets are raining down on Madrid day after day...)

      You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

    3. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Interesting that you picked the example of Gaza for your headline. That's the area that Israel FULLY VACATED a few years ago, to the extent of relocating Jewish graves. What did they get in return? Rocket attacks on Sderot and other border areas. Had Hamas eliminated all attacks from Gaza, they would have gotten more settlement freezes in the West Bank

      The real dirty secret is that all Pali groups want to wipe out Israel as a Jewish state, and replace it w/ an Arab Islamic state. The only difference b/w Hamas vs Fatah vs Islamic Jihad is whether the resulting country would look like Saudi Arabia or Iran or Saddam's Iraq. The clause in Hamas' charter

      'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)

      is something directly taken out of the Hadiths. And before you start playing the 'this is an inauthentic hadith', it's taken from Sahih Bukhari, which is one of the primary 'sahih' (authentic) hadiths.

    4. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Rujiel · · Score: 1

      And somebody calls me anti-semitic in 3.. 2.. 1... The IDF has been seen to use any excuse at all to attack gaza and further its illegal settlements. During the last round of attacks, there was an extended premise of "searching" for three teenagers whom the IDF already knew were dead. Israel is slipping further and further into fascism, not according to its enemies, but its own forner officials. https://news.vice.com/article/... Zionist trolls live in a post-fact based reality. This is where you call me an anti semite again.

    5. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Sri+Ramkrishna · · Score: 1

      It's going to get worse now that we are going to have Trump in charge.. they will only be further encouraged - source: the ambassador to Israel nominated by Trump is a pro-settlement guy. Looks like we are going to be taking sides, and that is really unfortunate.

    6. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's some racist rant you have there.

    7. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rhetoric here is no different than what was said about Jews in the 1930s. Nice to see that you're no different and just changed your target.

    8. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh no, not ~Zionists~. Where did those uppity Jews ever get the idea that they had a right to self-determination?

    9. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2... 1.. by nbauman · · Score: 1

      Historically, Zionism was a nationalist movement formed by German Jews on the model of 19th century German nationalism.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  6. HamasHoneys.com by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    is it registered?

    1. Re:HamasHoneys.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      monobrowbeauties.com

  7. The perils of success by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hamas only has power because Israel continues to tolerate it. If Hamas were to become an actual threat, Israel would tell Hamas' protectors (UN, EU) to go fuck themselves and destroy it.

    1. Re:The perils of success by bug1 · · Score: 2

      Hamas only has power because Israel continues to tolerate it.

      Israel can choose to be fascist dictators, or it can choose to be civilised.

      Sadly, they have already made there choice obvious.

    2. Re:The perils of success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean, kinda like, wait for it, ..., a final solution?

      Ba dum tss.

    3. Re:The perils of success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Civilization is highly overrated.

    4. Re:The perils of success by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      If you call your government "fascist" and don't get arrested -- then your government isn't fascist. Try cursing out Hamas' leadership from inside Gaza.

    5. Re: The perils of success by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      You probably missed this report. Don't worry, you can find others if you look.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital

      Several reports by Shin Bet officials (Yuval Diskin, Yitzhak Ilan) alleged that Hamas used Al-Shifa hospital as a bunker and refuge, knowing it will be spared by air-strikes. Ahmed Jabari was one of the leaders of Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades alleged to have hidden there during the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict.[9][11]

      In 2009, The Palestinian Health Ministry, run by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, accused Hamas members of taking control of wards in Shifa Hospital, using them for interrogation and imprisonment, while withholding medical care.[12]

      During 2014, Operation Protective Edge, the hospital was described by The Washington Post as being a "de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders, who can be seen in the hallways and offices."[13] According to the WorldNetDaily, a conservative website[14] Middle Eastern security officials were said to believe that Hamas members are using the Al-Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza not only as a hiding place but also as a sanctuary command center for some of the Islamist group's operations targeting Israel and are using tunnels to move in and out of the complex.[15] A Palestinian journalist reported for Libération that just a few meters from the emergency room a section was being used by Hamas as offices.[16] This report was removed by Liberation at the journalist's request for unknown reasons. [17]

      Reporting from the Gaza hospital to the Finnish Helsingin Sanomat Aishi Zidan reported that a rocket was fired in the middle of the night from a parking lot at the hospital.[18]

      During Operation Protective Edge, Wall Street Journal correspondent Nick Casey tweeted a photo of Hamas MP and media spokesperson Mushir Al Masri using the outside of Shifa hospital for media interviews, but then later deleted it.[19][20]

    6. Re:The perils of success by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Israel could still be much worse than what it is.

    7. Re:The perils of success by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      If you call your government "fascist" and don't get arrested -- then your government isn't fascist. Try cursing out Hamas' leadership from inside Gaza.

      Now that is a point that should get modded up. But I'm out of mod points...

    8. Re: The perils of success by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Perhaps munitions shouldn't be stored in schools and hospitals?

  8. Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL

  9. Hamas the hackers by Master5000 · · Score: 0

    We are Hamasnymous! We don't forgive! We don't forget!

  10. War is war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no reprieve for human nature.

    Militantly assured.

    Politically guaranteed.

    God bless us all. /agnostic

  11. Super Awesome Improvement!!! by gavron · · Score: 2

    I'd rather the Hamas terrorists sit around hacking Israeli army enlisted men's smartphones than strap explosives to themselves and go kill innocent civilians in populated cities.

    Exploding bus = brutally murdered people and body parts everywhere while the terrorists and their sympathizers dance in the streets and Iran pays them.
    Hacked smartphone = nobody dead.

    This applies to all terrorists, be they Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, French-muslims, etc.

    Please, terrorists, do go on and continue your oh-so-super hacking.

    Swords to plowshares indeed.

    E

    1. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iran = terrorists now?
      The propaganda is strong in this one.

    2. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only israelis are terrorists but yours is an honest mistake right you are just some ignorant fuck on the internet and not a shill right?

    3. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hacked smartphone = nobody dead.

      Hacked smartphone == gps target for missile strike.

    4. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what terrorist sympathizers always say.
      The moderators have correctly labeled you a complete zero.

    5. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some objectivity may be in order.

      Both Jewish national extremists and Palestinian national extremists kill innnocent people.
      Both Jewish national extremists and Palestinian national extremists want to ethnic cleanse each other from the region.
      Both Jewish nationalist extremists and Palestinian national extremists fantasize an invisible space Leprichaun gave them exclusive property rights in the region. Check.

      Well there is a difference. Jewish nationalist extremists are far more effective at killing innocent Palestinians than Hamas innocent Jews. You can thank Christian national extremists in America for their billions of annual military funding for that. The earth is 6000 years old and evolution a hoax. The Dinosaurs were pets of Jesus doncha know.

    6. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pan Am flight 103 would like a word with you.

    7. Re:Super Awesome Improvement!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Israel deserves every bomb, every missile, and more.

  12. Didn't think they'd go for that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real Housewives of ISIS

    1. Re:Didn't think they'd go for that by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Like Kathy Russell Tsarnaev?

  13. Islamic men acting like teen girls.. by Sri+Ramkrishna · · Score: 1

    So, I assume they don't actually talk on the phone.. but the idea of two committed men from different religion talking dirty to each other because one of them thinks the other is an attractive member of the opposite sex to be hilarious. But it shows the power that this scam has on young men. This would work anywhere, in any country...

    1. Re: Islamic men acting like teen girls.. by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

      Yes it does.

      In fact, that amazing looking girl on Facebook that's interested in you might just be a Federal Agent if you, your friends or family are on their radar.

      You know the saying:

      If it's too good to be true . . . .

  14. Horny soldiers should go to the Gaza strip club by raymorris · · Score: 2

    Why attack somewhere named for it's strippers?

  15. Suspicious by jodido · · Score: 1

    This "operation" was supposedly aimed at low-ranking Israeli soldiers. Can someone explain to me how Hamas got their phone numbers?

    1. Re: Suspicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they began to chat on facebook and asked Them for their phone number.

  16. In the USofA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honey-trapping by LEAs is so prevalent that, as far as I'm concerned, all females have the same name; Ms. Yeah Right.

  17. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL. Stupid yids.

  18. Soldiers, eh by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1

    I wonder if these were conscripts rather than hired personnel.

    1. Re:Soldiers, eh by wyHunter · · Score: 1

      Everyone in Israel has national service. If you aren't born there, but emigrate, you know what you're in for. If you are born there? Well, perhaps 2 years of your life is better than having the nation overrun.

  19. Fake Applications? Really? by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 1

    They weren't fake, they were fraudulent, misleading, falsely advertising, malware....

    But they worked, therefore they weren't fake applications..

  20. UN by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Nobody should have to abide by that farce of an organization. It should be disbanded immediately.

    1. Re:UN by Maritz · · Score: 1

      As should any organization that doesn't share all of your values and only your values.

      --
      I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
  21. War crimes or simply war. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    The situation between Israel and Palestine is war, but how is anything a war crime?

    1. Re:War crimes or simply war. by nbauman · · Score: 1

      The situation between Israel and Palestine is war, but how is anything a war crime?

      http://www2.ohchr.org/english/...

      773. At about 12.50 p.m., Khalid Abd Rabbo, his wife Kawthar, their three daughters, Souad (aged 9), Samar (aged 5) and Amal (aged 3), and his mother, Hajja Souad Abd Rabbo, stepped out of the house, all of them carrying white flags. Less than 10 metres from the door was a tank, turned towards their house. Two soldiers were sitting on top of it having a snack (one was eating chips, the other chocolate, according to one of the witnesses). The family stood still, waiting for orders from the soldiers as to what they should do, but none was given. Without warning, a third soldier emerged from inside the tank and started shooting at the three girls and then also at their grandmother. Several bullets hit Souad in the chest, Amal in the stomach and Samar in the back. Hajja Souad was hit in the lower back and in the left arm.

      [The IDF refused to let an ambulance bring them to the hospital, so they walked. Amal and Souad died. Samar had a spinal injury and was left paraplegic for life. The Israeli government never investigated this event or prosecuted the soldier responsible.]

    2. Re:War crimes or simply war. by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Whose word are we taking that that is what actually happened?

    3. Re:War crimes or simply war. by nbauman · · Score: 1

      We are taking the word of B'Tselem, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, The New York Times, BBC, Washington Post, Haaretz, and the Goldstone Report, all of whom sent investigators to the scene to interview witnesses and examine the scene for physical evidence.

      For example, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/pro...

      We're taking their word agains the word of the Israeli government, which hasn't responded to the charges except to say that Palestinians generically are lying.

      The BBC said, "We have put the family's allegations to the Israelis. So far they have told us that they can not comment on specific cases."

  22. Fascism by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Any time I see someone use the word "Fascism" there is no real evaluation of the shortcomings of Fascism, but just because it sounds scary because Hitler.

  23. Fascism 2 by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    Whenever I see someone use the term Fascism, it comes with no real assessment of Fascism's shortcomings but only seems to be used because it is scary, because Hitler.

  24. Innocence by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I have my doubts that innocence actually exists. The squabbles in the region are really quite pointless, yet both sides seem to want the conflict to continue.

    1. Re:Innocence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just an endless game of "Nuh-uh, you first!", or "Nuh-uh, you did it first!"

      There's no leadership, dignity, or future in any of this.

  25. Pics... or it didn't happen! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be thrilled to see what a Hamas guy phantasizes as being apt for luring an Israeli soldier. Should be... interesting.

  26. (dons flame retardant suit) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like natural selection at work here. They should be lucky that they wern't stupid enough to try to meet these "women" IRL

  27. Then take it up with those former IDF officials by Rujiel · · Score: 1

    Because faacism is their word for it, regardless of mine.

  28. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2 by Rujiel · · Score: 1

    "The real dirty secret is that all Pali groups want to wipe out Israel as a Jewish state" Actually, palestinians at large just want to exist. If israel hates palestine's modern leadership, maybe it shouldn't have regularly assassinated palestinian leaders.Maybe israel should treat palestinians as human beings rather than keeping the territories as close as possible to a humanitarian crisis without spurring external intervention. Again, words of israeli officials, not mine.

  29. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2 by unixisc · · Score: 1

    The Israelis assassinated Hamas leaders who were plotting terror attacks on them, like Yassin and Rantisi. If the Palis just wanted to exist, they wouldn't have lobbed rockets at Israel from Gaza after getting Israel to completely vacate Gaza. Their goal is to eliminate Israel as a Jewish state, and make the entire place another Arab Muslim shithole like Saudi Arabia, Iraq or Egypt

  30. Shooting off your cocksucker again troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I don't shoot my mouth off without knowing what I'm talking about" - by raymorris (2726007) on Thursday December 31, 2015 @09:29AM (#51215379)

    Raymorris you shoot your mouth off f'ing up in 2 security fuckups https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47379233/ & https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5351503&cid=47374033/ + raymorris = scriptkiddie https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8895203&cid=51726265/

    &

    Tell us how ONLY 'newer script kiddie tools' have stringlength built in (when PASCAL had it for ages - my fav tool) https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8472509&cid=51114383/ YOU BLUNDERING WANNABE!

    APK

    P.S.=> You like to talk behind others' backs like the gossiping bitch TROLL you are raymorris https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9880997&cid=53312265/ well, here I am letting YOU TALK in those links, showing your FAILS wannabe ... apk

  31. Re: Gaza to be attacked in 3... 2 by wyHunter · · Score: 1

    Also last I noticed, that the Israelis do try hard NOT to kill civilians. Remember operation cast lead? Where they rang people in every flat in a block EXCEPT the one they were gonna bomb saying 'It's in your best interest to leave now.' Or the aid stations they put up to treat civilians hit as 'collateral damage'? The whole situation in the middle east is horrible, and I'm NOT saying that the Israelis are saints, but I think they're doing the best they can, with what they've got.