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Caffeine May Counter Age-Related Inflammation, Says Study (stanford.edu)

According to a new Stanford study published in the journal Nature Medicine, caffeine may help to counter the inflammatory process that occurs in some older people. The researchers have found a connection between advancing age, systemic inflammation, cardiovascular disease and coffee consumption by analyzing blood samples, survey data and medical and family histories obtained from more than 100 human participants in a multiyear study. Stanford Medical Center Report adds: The study implicates this inflammatory process as a driver of cardiovascular disease and increased rates of mortality overall. Metabolites, or breakdown products, of nucleic acids -- the molecules that serve as building blocks for our genes -- circulating in the blood can trigger this inflammatory process, the study found. The study also provides evidence that caffeine and its own metabolites may counter the action of these circulating nucleic-acid metabolites, possibly explaining why coffee drinkers tend to live longer than abstainers. Notably, this inflammatory mechanism was found to be activated only in some, but not all, of the older study participants. Those in whom it was relatively quiescent tended to drink more caffeinated beverages. Laboratory experiments revealed that the mechanism was directly countered by caffeine and associated compounds. For the new study, the researchers compared blood drawn from older versus younger study participants to see which genes tended to be more highly activated in older people. They zeroed in on two clusters of genes whose activity was associated with the production of a potent circulating inflammatory protein called IL-1-beta. The genes within each cluster appeared to work in coordination with one another. The researchers found that incubating a type of immune cell with two of those nucleic-acid metabolites boosted activity in one of the gene clusters, resulting in increased IL-1-beta production. When injected into mice, the substances triggered massive systemic inflammation, along with high blood pressure. In addition, immune cells infiltrated and clogged the animals' kidneys, increasing renal pressure substantially. Intrigued by the correlation between older participants' health, gene-cluster activation and self-reported rates of caffeine consumption, the researchers followed up and verified that blood from the group with low cluster activity was enriched for caffeine and a number of its metabolites, compared with blood from the group with high cluster activity. (Examples of these metabolites are theophylline, also found in tea, and theobromine, which abounds in chocolate.) Incubating immune cells with caffeine and its breakdown products along with the inflammation-triggering nucleic acid metabolites substantially prevented the latter from exerting their powerful inflammatory effect on the cells.

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  1. IT is amazing by ruir · · Score: 1

    How frequently we hear studies how certain lucrative industries, like one where there is a margin of 700%-2000% in the product, "it is amazing for your health".
    What a coincidence this was broadcast in the news earlier on today too.
    Someone must be paying $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    1. Re:IT is amazing by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How frequently we hear studies how certain lucrative industries, like one where there is a margin of 700%-2000% in the product, "it is amazing for your health". What a coincidence this was broadcast in the news earlier on today too. Someone must be paying $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

      Laziness and impatience drives obscene profit margins within the coffee industry. It's still fairly easy to still spend pennies on a cup of coffee, if you're willing to get off your ass, grind a few beans, and brew a cup. Most people prefer whistling for a dog named Starbucks or shove a pod into a machine to whip up a coffee-like substance fast enough to not be a burden on a FOMO lifestyle.

    2. Re:IT is amazing by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This. In addition, it seems a safe bet the the sugary, cream-laden concoctions that pass for coffee at Fivebucks negate any possible health benefit of caffeine consumption.

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    3. Re:IT is amazing by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perthaps, although coffee is only one source of caffeine.

      Coffee is one of the most researched drinks on the planet though, partially because it is drunk so much. Another reason is because back in the 80's everyone assumed it must be bad for you and started a bunch of studies to prove how it is bad for "X,Y, and Z". As it turns out, everything they thought it would cause it ended up helping. Coffee really does have a lot of benefits (and some down sides). Diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson's disease... turns out it can help a lot of things.

      If only Superman drank coffee he might have become immune to kryptonite*.

      * untested theory

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    4. Re:IT is amazing by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I am the ultimate in lazy. All my coffee is free at work...

      One cup in the morning with a bit of non-dairy creamer... my FOMO lifestyle is in force!

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    5. Re:IT is amazing by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Laziness and impatience drives obscene profit margins within the coffee industry. It's still fairly easy to still spend pennies on a cup of coffee, if you're willing to get off your ass, grind a few beans, and brew a cup. Most people prefer whistling for a dog named Starbucks or shove a pod into a machine to whip up a coffee-like substance fast enough to not be a burden on a FOMO lifestyle.

      Quit being such judgmental snob. I do all three; it depends on the situation I'm in, and nothing to do with FOMO. There are times when I want a coffee and I'm not at home or not at work: Starbucks or Biggby, usually with a triple shot of espresso. When I'm at work, I use my Keurig. I find certain K-cups make great coffee. When we're camping we grind our own and use a percolator over coals. Definitely the roughest cups of coffee I drink, but then again, I'm out in the woods.

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    6. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At Walmart: "Great Value Classic Roast'. Four pounds for eight dollars and change. It's actually pretty good coffee.

    7. Re:IT is amazing by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2

      You could switch to pure espresso shots.

    8. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention the effects of drinking coffee and moderate alcohol consumption...

    9. Re:IT is amazing by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most folks drink stale coffee. Try roasting your own (I use Sweet Maria's for supplies) or going somewhere with a roaster on site who is honest enough to tell you the roast date. It should be from 2 to 10 days ago. Flavor development in coffee is a rancidification process. Like cheese, you want to catch it when it is a little, but not too, rancid.

    10. Re:IT is amazing by ruir · · Score: 1

      700% for resellers (aka normal coffee shops - cheap expressos - plenty of them here, it is a culture), 2000%-3000% for distributors, 3000%-4000% for starbucks.

    11. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What a coincidence. I think I sprayed eight dollars worth of Peet's while reading this comment.

    12. Re:IT is amazing by ruir · · Score: 1

      Coffee is far from pure, and they mix up a lot of other stuff to even boost a already *very* profitable industry. Many people also mix coffee with sugar, sweeteners or cream, which make you fat and fuck up your brain, and if I sincerely doubt that it helps in something pure, it will surely wont help when mixed with that garbage. Not to mention that most creams are made of chemicals and not actually milk, but that is a bed time horror story.

    13. Re:IT is amazing by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ha. To fooey with your own roasting! I hand forge axes from native iron filings patiently gathered by local native tribesman from old railroad ties. I use the axe to cut down first growth Yellow Cedar, strip the bark to make kindling, split the wood (I do use a match, gotta account for modern technology somehow), roast the beans on hot granite rocks and grind them with river stones.

      I did go out to WalMart to get a French Press because the natives around here just had to interact with Russians and they were more into vodka than coffee.....

      The stuff is just wonderful. Except I'm too sore and tired to do anything else.

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    14. Re:IT is amazing by chihowa · · Score: 1

      If only Superman drank coffee he might have become immune to kryptonite*.

      Superman has already moved on from caffeine.

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    15. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How frequently we hear studies how certain lucrative industries, like one where there is a margin of 700%-2000% in the product

      Yup. It is what IT is.

    16. Re:IT is amazing by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2

      And with the right coffee maker (BUNN Velocity Brew), you can brew a whole pot in 3 minutes.

    17. Re:IT is amazing by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      It's still fairly easy to still spend pennies on a cup of coffee, if you're willing to get off your ass

      I save a bunch while being lazy. I make cold brew at home. I spend about as much time as I would on a single pot of coffee, but it makes concentrate that lasts a couple of weeks. As usual Walmart has good prices if you are ok with the brands they carry.

      Also for sweetening cold coffee drinks, making simple sugar is dirt cheap and easy and can last a while too.

      All said, with milk and sugar, I average around 75 cents per 16oz glass. Compare that with around $4 for the same at Starbucks.

      (I've worked at a coffee shop for a few years.)

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    18. Re:IT is amazing by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      bah! lazy bum. Used store bought beans. I grow my own coffee shrub. And I have my own civet cat. And you have no idea how the fruit pulp gets removed and the bean is made available.

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    19. Re:IT is amazing by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I think were it just laziness and impatience, you'd see coffee vending machines as they have in Japan. When I'm getting coffee at starbucks it's because I can feel the withdrawal mild headache coming on and I'm not at home. If it was between spending $6 for a can and being on my way in a few seconds and $2 for a hand-made silly frilly coffee art that the barista takes 10 minutes to get to, I would choose the can every time just for convenience. Yet they usually don't have their canned stuff out in their stores.

      I think it's more of a luxury thing. You can get a fancy pants coffee at a premium, and it's still, you know, just a few dollars. Convenience isn't, I think, the driving force.

    20. Re:IT is amazing by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      Japanese can coffee is quite enjoyable and super convenient - push a button and scan a contactless EDY or transit card, and you have your beverage for about $1 and in less than 5 seconds. That said, I can see why it didn't take off here. People are like "hot beverage in a metal can, won't that hurt your hand?" herp-derp and then proceed to burn their hand on the paper cup they just waited 5 minutes for, because putting said paper cup into the cardboard sleeve is not in the $15/hr Starbucks employee's job description.

    21. Re:IT is amazing by boristdog · · Score: 1

      Free work coffee is the only way we do our jobs here.

      That and cheap breakfast tacos in the cafeteria are the only reasons I show up at a reasonable hour.

    22. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > iron filings patiently gathered...from old railroad ties
      You do realize that the ties are made of wood (mostly); it's the rails that are made of steel. Sorry, just had to.

    23. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Iron filings! Iron filings!? Oooo, luxury, you don't know when you have it good! The flannel wearing pretty boys get ready-made iron!

      I prospect for iron ore, then open a mine, build a refinery, and make a forge! Then and only then am I ready to start making my axe! Now that's can-do pioneering spirit!!

      You only get about one cup of coffee every 3 years my way, but it's authentic. Oh hell yeah it's authentic!

    24. Re:IT is amazing by rpavlicek · · Score: 1

      For anyone who is into cold brewed coffee, lives in the bay area and is too lazy to make it themselves:

      http://cosmiccoffeeclub.com/

      I truly find their stuff amazing...and quite economical.

    25. Re: IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely starbucks

    26. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just brew it turkish style in a regular pot and it takes about that time, maybe less if you have a good stove

    27. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What backwards country are you in where they cant afford propper nails to hold the steel.

    28. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bah! lazy bum. Used store bought beans. I grow my own coffee shrub. And I have my own civet cat. And you have no idea how the fruit pulp gets removed and the bean is made available.

      Umm umm, cat shit coffee!

    29. Re:IT is amazing by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      Laziness and impatience drives obscene profit margins within the coffee industry. It's still fairly easy to still spend pennies on a cup of coffee, if you're willing to get off your ass, grind a few beans, and brew a cup. Most people prefer whistling for a dog named Starbucks or shove a pod into a machine to whip up a coffee-like substance fast enough to not be a burden on a FOMO lifestyle.

      I make Folgers Coffee from a drip coffee machine. My morning brain fuel.

      I don't need those fancy cup pod coffee makers or that fancy Starfucks that costs more than a can of Folgers. Young'uns are so noob to the joys of coffee. Back in my day I had to go to an actual store and get a can of coffee and then actually make the coffee.

      Now get the Hell off my lawn!

    30. Re:IT is amazing by K10W · · Score: 1

      Laziness and impatience drives obscene profit margins within the coffee industry. It's still fairly easy to still spend pennies on a cup of coffee, if you're willing to get off your ass, grind a few beans, and brew a cup......... Starbucks or shove a pod into a machine to whip up a coffee-like substance.

      Couldn't agree more, if they bothered not only would they get it cheaper but also better. Starbucks and pods are both average coffee for way above average price, the beans are sometimes good at the start but have spoiled in treatment: cheap air dry process like a lot of African can collect a lot of crap (literally) and often not processed properly and can go off, wet process tends to be better but can also be done wrong. The off flavours are often due to this cheap processing bacterial/mould issue rather than the bean itself. A lot are over roasted too without fine control leading to burned flavour.

      If you work out your routine it isn't as much messing as people think. I do it the most inconvenient way but even that is fine with some forward thinking. A lot of the compounds that don't lead to good flavour in large amounts are extracted much much easier with boiling vs cold water, you can get a better balance of them with slow cold extract. I use a french press for most my coffee, know roughly how much I drink a day and prepare all of it day before with warm water after grinding to right size to extract how I want. Cover to stop oxidising, leave out for a little while then put in fridge over night and next day is just a quick microwave and instant coffee that taste amazing, most coffee snobs comment on it being unbelievably good and and I tell them I'm using same beans as them or worse and they are surprised and often start doing it the same way. It takes minutes to grind beans (I have no roaster yet) and that is going slow/pulsing with frozen beans to stop the burning that none burr grinders can suffer from; do enough for a week and back in the freezer tightly sealed it goes and it means this most time consuming method takes about 5min extra a week vs pods for a fraction of the cost and better taste and is just as quick with less work (pour and heat = done) on the actual preparing a cup in the morn/day.

      There are even quicker methods with less messing, just I get the best results from this and it is so little extra to do it is worth it to me. Plenty of expresso machines available that will do fast extract with a nice even lower pressure to get ristretto quality shots which you can make anything from long black/flat white/capuchinno etc with if that is your thing. Part the problem people have is they use a bad machine with too high a temp raw uncontrolled pressure machine that is too high at start and drops rapidly so drags out extract time and more of the harsh compounds you want less of (some is good for flavour) and scorches the favourable [wanted in high ratio] ones and they blame the bean or compare it to a pod machine that is using finer grounds with faster extract. As for time tamping a shot in a portafilter is just as quick as a pod and spent grounds come out like a hockey puck with 1 bang so again they compare to pods as low mess option. Like you say it is laziness for the most part.

    31. Re:IT is amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would that be so ? the mechanism described in TFA relies solely on interaction between caffeine and its metabolites with the immune cells. Sugar or cream do not play into it AT ALL.

      I get it that you think you drink coffee the only Pure Way(tm) but you don't have to belittle non-followers with made-up stuff.

    32. Re:IT is amazing by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      the sugary, cream-laden concoctions that pass for coffee at Fivebucks

      It's actually possible to get a cup of coffee at Starbucks. I do it once in a while, when no better alternative presents itself. Just try ordering a "medium black coffee". The employees understand English if you speak clearly.

      I admit it's not very good coffee, given Starbucks' propensity for using an excessively dark roast and then burning the coffee anyway, but I've had worse.

    33. Re:IT is amazing by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      I grow my own coffee shrub.

      Sure - who doesn't? - but if you're just using any old dirt to grow it in, you're missing out. I only drink coffee made from plants I grow in my carefully designed soil blend, on my private mountain.

    34. Re:IT is amazing by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      There's a Fivebucks (near a bank branch I frequent) that I use when no better alternative presents itself, and you are spot on.

      In our locale, the no frills-no sugar-no cream-regular black blend of liquid concentration is Pike's Place. It is downright caliginous, and, more often than you would suspect for a specialty coffee retailer, often left on the heat way too long.

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    35. Re:IT is amazing by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Sure, but it takes longer than 3 minutes to just boil the water for French|Vietnamese Press, and Turkish pots look like they don't even brew enough for a single large mug.

  2. nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That means I AM IMMORTAL!

    All hail the dew.

    Why are you shaking like that?

    1. Re:nice by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      To be immortal, you have to drink coffee and tea, eat dark chocolate and hot chili peppers and drink red wine in moderation.

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    2. Re:nice by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      No problemo. Except for the 'moderation' part, I'm there.

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    3. Re: nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should be all set then. But I think you need to add beer to the list to reach perfection.

    4. Re: nice by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Sadly, I'm not sure you can create a tasty beer out of those ingredients.

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  3. This story sponsored by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    large North American coffee producers, who have profit margins in the thousands of percents, which is why it's good for you to drink more coffee! Honest, guv!

    1. Re:This story sponsored by by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      You know, this kind of shallow cynicism actually makes you easier to dupe, because it's not evidence-based; it's what-sounds-truthy-based.

      This article was published in Nature, which requires a complete disclosure of institutional affiliations and financial conflicts. That doesn't mean the system is perfect, but it's about as good as it gets, especially given that Nature is one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world. Nature Medicine has an eye-popping 30.357 impact factor, making it the fourth most highly cited medical journal in the world after the New England Journal of Medicine, The Lancet, and Journal of the American Medical Association.

      Does it mean you should immediately believe anything that's published in Nature Medicine? No. You should wait until it is cited in a literature review article in one of those top journals before making any health decisions based on it. However as individual papers go, this is as credible as they get.

      Researchers have been trying to take caffeine down for decades. Nobody can quite believe that something so enjoyable as coffee isn't bad for you. In fact doctors used to routinely warn their patients off coffee because of all the bad things it would do to them, but in fact when researchers tried to confirm all the things doctors knew about why coffee was bad for you, none of them turned out to be true, with narrow exceptions for certain populations (e.g., coffee doesn't cause ulcers as we used to be told, but if you have an ulcer coffee will make the symptoms worse).

      What researchers found were surprising benefits, including what appears to be evidence of reduction in risks for multiple forms of cancer and even a reduction in suicide risk.

      Coffee is well on its way to becoming the first evidence-backed superfood.

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    2. Re:This story sponsored by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The studies in the 50's (or whenever it was) revealing how fatty foods were bad for us, and that we should eat more sugar instead, were also published in highly reputable journals with the same kind of strictness.

      Personally I refuse to believe that humans are dependent on ingesting caffeine to attain health. If anything, it's possibly countering some of the side-effects from our generally poor western chemo-fueled diets.

    3. Re:This story sponsored by by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      These studies weren't that wrong. For people obsessed with meat, gout is a very real danger.

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    4. Re:This story sponsored by by hey! · · Score: 1

      Actually evidence from the 1950s was mixed -- as it still is -- but in fact most of it stands up pretty well. What's a problem is the interpretation of that evidence and its limited nature (e.g. not knowing about different types of cholesterol).

      For example it was established in the 50s that high blood cholesterol was a risk factor for cardiovascular disease. This is still believed as true, but what they didn't know at the time is what factors affected blood cholesterol. It was (plausibly although not conclusively) suspected by many that fat consumption would increase it; nobody suspected sugar... why should they?

      In complex systems like the body there is usually conflicting evidence early on, which is resolved by further study.

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    5. Re:This story sponsored by by diesalesmandie · · Score: 1

      These studies weren't that wrong. For people obsessed with meat, gout is a very real danger.

      And there are a lot of things that are good for you but if you consume too much it will at least cause damage (for example vitamin C enhances iron absorption. If you have high-iron stores, consuming an excessive amounts of vitamin C will cause your body to absorb too much iron, which can damage organs.) But recent evidence proves that those pro-carb, anti-fat studies in the 50's are very misleading to say the least. Go to this site http://www.cerealkillersmovie.... to find out more.

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    6. Re:This story sponsored by by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      Researchers have been trying to take caffeine down for decades. Nobody can quite believe that something so enjoyable as coffee isn't bad for you. In fact doctors used to routinely warn their patients off coffee because of all the bad things it would do to them, but in fact when researchers tried to confirm all the things doctors knew about why coffee was bad for you, none of them turned out to be true, with narrow exceptions for certain populations (e.g., coffee doesn't cause ulcers as we used to be told, but if you have an ulcer coffee will make the symptoms worse).

      What researchers found were surprising benefits, including what appears to be evidence of reduction in risks for multiple forms of cancer and even a reduction in suicide risk.

      Coffee is well on its way to becoming the first evidence-backed superfood.

      FWIW, I'm in one such population: Even relatively low levels of caffeine (or other stimulants) can trigger anxiety attacks. 6oz of Coke will keep me up 18 hours later. Which sucks in our high-stress world. I have to use a small number of squares of (good) dark chocolate to keep the dosage manageable.

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    7. Re:This story sponsored by by hey! · · Score: 1

      Well, the answer might be to try a morning cup of decaf coffee. Why? Because caffeine isn't the only active ingredient in coffee; the anti-cancer properties of coffee appear to be in the phenols which are still present in decaf. And you'd still get the stimulant benefits of caffeine because you're more sensitive, although I'd avoid even decaf after noon.

      A cup of decaf coffee has between 2-10 mg of caffeine depending on the process; an ounce of dark chocolate has about 20 mg of caffeine; a twelve once coke has 34 mg of caffeine; a cup of regular coffee has 90-200 mg of caffeine.

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    8. Re:This story sponsored by by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      Well, the answer might be to try a morning cup of decaf coffee. Why? Because caffeine isn't the only active ingredient in coffee; the anti-cancer properties of coffee appear to be in the phenols which are still present in decaf. And you'd still get the stimulant benefits of caffeine because you're more sensitive, although I'd avoid even decaf after noon.

      A cup of decaf coffee has between 2-10 mg of caffeine depending on the process; an ounce of dark chocolate has about 20 mg of caffeine; a twelve once coke has 34 mg of caffeine; a cup of regular coffee has 90-200 mg of caffeine.

      Thanks - I was wondering about the non-caffeine ingredients. My dark chocolate intake is about .75oz/day (and I can definitely feel it) Maybe I'll try a cup of decaf on a weekend morning some time.

      I'm also concerned about who defines "decaf" - especially here in Seattle, the capital of caffeine abuse ;-)

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  4. ...Or Just Take Aspirin. by lobiusmoop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Low dose aspitin is commonly recommended for those at risk of heart problems. It is an anti-inflamitory, anti-coagulant and arguably even cheaper than caffiene.

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    1. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know aspirin typically has caffeine in it, right?

    2. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 2

      It hasn't.
      http://www.aspirin.com/en/abou...

      "The active ingredient in Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid."

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    3. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Hm. Acetylsalicylic acid contains caffiene? Nope.

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    4. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by ckatko · · Score: 1

      Long term non-steroidal anti-inflammatory ("NSAID") use causes stomach and intestinal ulcers.

      I'm talking from experience.

      Your body runs on hormones. Medicines have side effects because when you block a hormone responsible for multiple things (as they almost always are), you shut off ALL of those activities. Blocking the hormone that is responsible for inflammation, additionally shuts down it's other useful effects. It 1. Shuts down the generation of a protective layer for your stomach lining/intestines. 2. Increases acid production. Which is why people get ulcers.

      ALL NSAIDS (Asprin, Ibuprofin, etc) do it. And the steroid route has even worse side-effects. (see "moon face" and saps your bone density.)

      So my only guess here is that they give it to old people because they're so likely to die from a heart attack, that intestinal issues is an "acceptable risk."

      So to sum it up: If caffeine reduces heart attacks, it's way a safer alternative to taking aspirin for years/decades.

    5. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "Low dose aspitin is commonly recommended for those at risk of heart problems. It is an anti-inflamitory, anti-coagulant and arguably even cheaper than caffiene."

      It doesn't have to be coffee, I take 2 pills of 200 mg pure caffeine before my morning workout, so that I don't have to drink several cups of coffee and spend my workout on the toilet.

    6. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2

      Let's not forget the effect of helicobacter pylori bacteria on ulcers, they are in general held to be the main cause these days.

      I have another theory about the beneficial effect of aspirin, caffine, etc. We evolved with them. Our diet was rich in salycilates and chemicals similar to theobromine or caffine. They came from the plants we ate, some of which were mildly toxic and which we evolved to process to the point that we became dependent on some of their effects. There are a lot of things in the primitive diet that modern people don't eat much at all, like acorns which had to be soaked to remove alkalai and tannin.

      If this is the case, taking aspirin and drinking coffee or tea replace substances found in a more primitive diet.

    7. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 3, Informative

      Soldiers were historically prescribed "ABC" for minor discomfort, acetominophen (which some parts of the world call paracetomol), buffered aspirin, cafffine. But consumer over-the-counter aspirin is not generally formulated with caffine as the military version was.

    8. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by ruir · · Score: 1

      Not really, but you are not far from truth. I have already bought aspirins with added caffeine, god only knows why. The kids must love it. Or maybe it is a ruse to sell the adult version+ the kids version. Strange.

    9. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I didn't say "the active ingredient in aspirin is caffeine", I said " aspirin typically contains caffeine". You see, drugs interact with each other, and mixing a drug with another can increase the effectiveness of another drug. It's why mixing drugs can be dangerous. Mixing can cause you to overdose on an amount of a drug that normally would be safe. Caffeine is one of these drugs that is often be used to increase the effectiveness of another drug. And guess what, acetylsalicylic acid is one of the drugs whose effectiveness is increased by mixing it with caffeine. Now, this does not mean the two are always mixed, hence why I said "typically" and not "always". Some people have sensitivity to caffeine, but still need the blood thinning effects of acetylsalicylic acid, thus they also sell it without caffeine. But if being sold for headache and not blood thinning, it's typically going to have caffeine.

      Seriously, to quote the wikipedia article on aspirin

      "Aspirin, especially as a component of an aspirin/paracetamol/caffeine combination, is considered a first-line therapy in the treatment of migraine, and comparable to lower doses of sumatriptan."

      Now, I will concede that since aspirin anymore is probably used more for blood thinning than headache, "typically" is probably not the correct term and it would be better to say "aspirin sometimes contains caffeine, especially when being used for headache", but eh.

    10. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      You're talking about 'Excedrin'. Which, classically, has been a mix of aspirin and caffeine. Seemed to help with migraine headaches. Then they added acetaminophen.

      Of course, if you're Canadian you can wander into 2-2-2's (aspirin, caffeine and codeine. Oh, Canada.

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    11. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Yeah, aspirin's tendency to make people bleed easier is often considered a problem by the military.

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    12. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      It still doesn't typically contain caffeine.
      There are combination pills, but they are neither aspirin nor typical. And as for migraine, apparently you think that every headache is migraine. It isn't, and isn't even the most common type of headache (that would be tension headache). Using pills that are meant to combat migraine for tension headache would be like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. This is why most ASA pills don't contain caffeine - people tend to abuse this kind of pills because caffeine makes them more alert, leading to stomach problems in long term. Standard ASA pills for pain and fever treatment are made of 325 to 500mg acetylsalicylic acid and filler like washing soda, silica, cornstarch or cellulose. That's it. Aspirin for blood thinning is the same, but dosed at about one tenth.

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    13. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're in a country that allows it, cocodamol (paracetamol, codeine, caffeine) is also very effective at alleviating migraine without the blood thinning effect of aspirin.

    14. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by mysticgoat · · Score: 2

      Excedrin and other APC preparations have only one benefit over plain aspirin swallowed with coffee: for some people, there is a beneficial placebo effect with certain brand names. More power to them.

      However to some extent the placebo effect is dependent on ignorance that you have been given a placebo, so if you used to find that Excedrin worked better than aspirin with coffee, I may have just destroyed that benefit for you. Too bad. Find another sugar pill.

      Acetaminophen (paracetamol, Tyelnol) is no more effective than aspirin (acetylsalicilic acid or ASA) in pain relief, and IIRC, does not potentiate with ASA nor are the two taken together any better than either one taken alone when taken in the usual recommended adult doses. But I'm pulling that from 30 year old memories from my days as an RN so someone could check on that.

      There are downsides to both acetaminophen and aspirin.

      Too much acetaminophen can irreversibly damage your liver, possibly leading to death or a liver transplant. Since the stuff is indiscriminately added to a huge number of pain relief compounds, it is possible to OD without realizing it, especially for those who think that since the Excedrin they took 15 minutes ago isn't taking care of the headache, they'll just take some Tylenol now, and maybe wash it down with Alka Seltzer Plus. Bye bye, sucker! (BTW, if you are contemplating suicide, don't do it with a couple of bottles of Tylenol. For if the paramedics get to you in time to pump your stomach and save you, you will live the rest of your short miserable life without a working liver, and that is hell on you, and everyone who has to breathe the stenches you emit.)

      Too much aspirin can permanently damage your hearing, or kill you in a number of different ways, or turn you into a semi vegetable through bleeding into your brain. One thing is that an early sign of a mild OD is tinnitus, which is a high pitched whine from damage to your inner ear. It is generally reversible by abstaining from more ASA for a time. So there is that warning sign for some people (but maybe not for you and maybe not all the time so don't rely on it).

      Aspirin washed down with a cup of coffee is as effective as any of the fancy brand name compounds in treating migraine and the aches and pains of daily living. Caffeine definitely potentiates the analgesic effect of aspirin, while also acting directly on the blood vessels that cause migraine pain. Plain coffee is the preferred way of delivering the caffeine, since it contains a number of other drugs that also have some benefit, and because a warm solution more quickly gets into the blood stream than a cold one laden with sugar, etc. This statement is true when the possible benefits of a placebo reaction to a given brand name drug are discounted--- but we have already destroyed that placebo effect for you with this post, eh?

      Bayer aspirin is generally priced twice as much, or more, than just plain aspirin, but is no different from any of the rest once it is out of the bottle. Still if you want to enhance your pain relief with a bit of placebo effect, Bayer might well work better for you than the cheap generic stuff.

    15. Re: ...Or Just Take Aspirin. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I knew it as APC ... The P stands for phenacetin, a paracetamol precursor

    16. Re:...Or Just Take Aspirin. by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      Bah. Only barbarians take store-bought aspirin. If you're not making your own from your carefully selected and cultivated willow trees, you're...

      Sorry. The coffee thread was played out.

  5. The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Caffiene, Nicotine, Preservatives, and Raw White Sugar. . . . powering Hackers since 1967. . .

    1. Re:The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the leftover pizza from the marketing meeting.

    2. Re:The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, you nailed my diet exact!

    3. Re:The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I didn't know cum contained all those compounds!!

    4. Re:The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      Silly Anonymous Coward, Pizza is a VITAMIN!!!

    5. Re:The Four Slashdot Food Groups. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need coffee to counter age-related inflammation. I need coffee to counter age-related sleepiness.

      The inflammation thing is just a happy secondary benefit!

  6. Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Caffeine is drunk almost everywhere in the world, and is part of a lot of (often conflicting) studies. But what about studying the effects of chicory for instance, or fresh lemon juice, or almond milk...? Maybe we could find something else that has the benefits of the coffee without the downside?

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    1. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's not a large chicory company to fund that sort of research. There are, however, many large coffee businesses to fund this sort of story.

    2. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      But what about studying the effects of chicory for instance, or fresh lemon juice, or almond milk...?

      Walnuts are great for reducing blood cholesterol levels. But . . . large pharmaceutical companies can't patent walnuts, so they have no incentive to fund studies with walnuts. Well, maybe Monsanto or that creepy Shkreli monstrosity might find a way to patent walnuts.

      Any, if munching on walnuts is not your thing try drinking them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Straight up, or on the rocks . . .

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    3. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Nut or gland derived milk is not my thing.

      I do, however, enjoy an ice cold cup of unsweetened soy drink. Over cereal is great too.

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    4. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      A box of "True Lemon", about $40 for a bulk box 500 little packets, will give you a year's worth of lemon in your water. I started to get gout. But not since I increased my citric acid intake.

    5. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by ruir · · Score: 1

      engrish alert... drunk?

    6. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by ruir · · Score: 1

      bah. never mind.

    7. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      find something else that has the benefits of the coffee without the downside?

      WhAt DoWnSiDe, PriCk!

    8. Re:Caffeine is one of the drugs the most used by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Tea.

      Green tea.

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  7. Mediterranean diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess this was the always overlooked key ingredient in the Mediterranean diet. But my FRICKING DOCTOR told me my caffeine intake was BAD FOR MY BLOOD PRESSURE!!!

    1. Re: Mediterranean diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Strange, you seem so laid back

    2. Re:Mediterranean diet by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      Maybe it works also with decaffeinated coffee.

  8. Gay anal sex makes you live longer as well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Giver: prostate is flushed
    Receiver: prostate is massaged

    End effect: toxins are removed from prostate

    Not kidding. Not a troll.

  9. prevention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The inflamation is probably caused by bacteria from the mouth, caused by aging teeth and gums and lessening antiseptic effect of spit. Use of a waterpik type device and regular dental care helps prevent this problem.

  10. I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll start drinking Coke again, for the anti-inflammation benefits of course.

    1. Re:I'm convinced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, it also works great for allergies.

  11. Poor mice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many mice were killed by these psychopathic scientists?

  12. statistical study != scientific study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These idiotic statistical studies need to end. There are non-stop "news" headlines from these "studies". There are far too many factors for any real type of connection to be made in these statistical studies.

    If you want to prove a point, then do a scientific study with evidence to back up what you're saying. These statistical studies prove nothing and are a waste of everyones time.

  13. Disclaimer by poofmeisterp · · Score: 2

    Disclaimer:
    No Stanford University students were funded by any corporations or industry conglomerates that are tied in any way to the selling of caffeinated products, we may say, in connection to manipulation of data in any of studies for their own gain. Maybe.

  14. I get my caffeine ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... at a counter, so I'm low risk.

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  15. Average it by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Over the years, I've seen at least a dozen coffee research papers come out with a wide mix of good & bad news.

    I average it all and conclude coffee is officially "meh" in terms of health.

  16. caffeine makes you pee sooo... by afaiktoit · · Score: 1

    that's probably how its clearing your body of breakdown products. mystery solved.

  17. The Spice Must Flow by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    The bean of the coffee makes the thoughts quicken, the pulse increase;
    The breath is a warning to others
    For he is the Kwikii Mart Haderach!

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  18. Flamebait by cstacy · · Score: 1

    Obviously caffeine does not reduce an inflammatory response.

    Well, at least not on the Internet...

  19. red bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so red bulls are healthy for the elderly... perfect