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Verizon Looking To Buy Comcast or Charter, Says Report (nypost.com)

"Two well-placed sources" told The New York Post that Verizon is considering purchasing a big cable company to help it grow demand for its wireless data products. The source said the most likely targets would be "Charter or Comcast." New York Post reports: Verizon Chief Executive Lowell McAdam may be getting ready to answer rival ATT's moves to buy DirecTV and Time Warner. To be sure, Verizon is not in talks with any cable company and may not ever make such a move. Still, McAdam has been under pressure recently with Verizon's deal to acquire Yahoo still a question mark months after two major hacks of the internet portal were revealed. The wireless giants operate on 4G wireless networks but are preparing to become a real alternative to the cable company with phone, TV and data services. To do that more effectively, the phone companies are pouring money into 5G connections that can work with cable systems to provide more stable coverage for consumers. McAdam has already given Wall Street analysts and investors big hints that he's looking at a combination with, say, a Charter Communications. In a mid-December meeting with Wall Street analysts, McAdam said a get-together between the two "makes industrial sense." Three weeks later, at CES, his comments to friends make it clear that cable distribution is a path he is exploring, perhaps more seriously than first thought. "For regulatory reasons, Verizon can't dominate in FiOS and cable, so it appears to have to set its sights on cable," an industry source said. Charter could be a seller under the right conditions, the source added, emphasizing that Malone and Charter CEO Tom Rutledge are just getting going on their vision for Charter.

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  1. NYSE:EVIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the shoe fits...

  2. On Jan 20th, let the mergers begin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The bankers are promoting big mergers again, for there are really large fees in really large mergers, and there is an expectation that those mergers are more likely to receive minimal scrutiny with the new administration. Interesting times ahead.

    1. Re:On Jan 20th, let the mergers begin! by DonaId+Trump · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're gonna have the yugest mergers, folks, believe me, bigly mergers! Now repeat after me: The White House Brought to You By Carl's Jr. Doesn't it have a nice ring to it?

  3. Just stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we just split these suckers up before they get any bigger?

  4. No bounds of hypocrisy by surfdaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Two of the most despicable US companies, uniting to create even more power to gouge their customers.

    1. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      This would suck epically. We JUST got FIOS here in Comcast country, and there is finally competition.

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    2. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Their new slogan: "Can we screw you now?"

    3. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      Yeppers. Cut the Comcast cord a few hours ago. Gig up and Gig down. :)

      [John]

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    4. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Wow! I thought I was living the good life going from the old 25/5 to 150/150...

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    5. Re: No bounds of hypocrisy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure why you are watering this down. It's more like "we are going to brutally ass rape the shit out of you, then turn you over and proceed to skullfuck you with our big fat monopoly thick shit coated cock, and then we'll do the same to your children and anyone else you care about. We will NOT be able to 'hear you now', since our aforementioned dick will be shoved all the way down your throat so you can't screem about how fucking outrageous this is. " Sincerely, Verizon.

    6. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by unixisc · · Score: 1

      I'd actually prefer that Verizon acquire Comcast, rather than Charter. I liked both Charter and TWC, but I don't like Comcast. I'd rather see Verizon put the latter out of my misery

    7. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      That's pretty fast, but I'd rather keep my Charter service with 66/5 and no data caps. It's plenty fast enough for everything I do online and I don't have to worry about how much I'm using. If anything, I could use a bit more speed on the upstream side because my digital photos are getting huge.

    8. Re: No bounds of hypocrisy by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I just wanted to thank you for the irony. First smile of the day.

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    9. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      That would be Comcast and Charter, or TWC, but they're out of the picture now. Actually, AT&T has to rank down there as well, with their shitty service. All of them suck far worse than Verizon.

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    10. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Does Verizon cap FIOS? Here there is no hard cap, though the sales guy said that if you end up being in the top 0.xxx% of users, they would likely cancel your contract (or push you into a business tier). DSL reports seems to indicate that this number is around 4TB/month. For me I guess the discussion is academic since I don't come anywhere near 4TB.

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    11. Re: No bounds of hypocrisy by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      You could go to 500/500, but the roughly $300/month cost is a tad high.

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    12. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by nazsco · · Score: 1

      fios was sold to frontier on the west.

      also it always was cable all the way. with very short runs of fiber. the actual layency was much worse than my trusty dsl+ when I lived one block from the end point.

      it baffles me that this thread is full of people claiming their gig up and gig down with no mention of latency.

    13. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Here in the Philly area my latency went way, way down with FIOS vs cable. Pings to google.com are less than 15ms. I'm not a gamer so I'm not sure if this is a decent test or not, but I've seen an improvement over the service I had with Comcast.

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    14. Re:No bounds of hypocrisy by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      No data cap per the FAQ.

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  5. Comcast still closely held? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The shares that exist are not enough to gain control if I remember. They were generated with the NBC merger. I say by Dish.

    1. Re:Comcast still closely held? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shares that exist are not enough to gain control if I remember.

      If the price is right, anything is possible. And when the merger is in the $200B range, there is enough money floating around to do a lot of convincing (a few hundred million here, a few hundred million there, and it is still noise in the total transaction price).

  6. Translation: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "we're looking to begin the dismantling of cable across the US and force the American public to use over-priced and highly unreliable wireless services with massive overages if they exceed their data caps, so we wanna buy Comcast or Charter to start that process."

    FTFY

  7. Even Trump can see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that that would be a very bad deal for the ordinary folks that elected him.

    Great for exec's though.

    1. Re:Even Trump can see by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      T has been ambiguous on telecom mergers. I don't have any links, but I remember him pandering to both the non-intervention angle, and the oligopolies=low-competition angle.

      We'll have to wait and see.

    2. Re: Even Trump can see by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      Now that is funny. Trump has no idea what the common man wants or needs. He does know how to tell people he knows what they need, but if you think an administration loaded with bankers (4 Goldman execs!) and other rich people is going to do anything for the lttle guy you're delusional.

  8. Goddammitsomuch.jpg by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Of all the things that are going to come out of the next 4 years the nonstop anti-consumer mergers (and the inevitable round after round of layoffs) is going to suck the hardest. This is pretty much why progressives fought to keep the $2 trillion in cash sitting offshore outside of American. Companies have pretty much admitted that almost none of that is going into R&D and instead they plan to spend it on M&A (Mergers and Acquisitions).

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  9. WTF by CrashNBrn · · Score: 2

    Wait... Verizon is big enough to buy Comcast NBCUniversal?

    1. Re:WTF by Moheeheeko · · Score: 1

      Their marketing campaign to keep people on their $150+ per month cellular plans went better than even they expected.

    2. Re:WTF by swb · · Score: 1

      I'd be curious to know what the propeller-heads who study long-term valuation think of Comcast NBCUniversal.

      I'm not one of those people, but I have this idea that of that combo-package, NBC has the best long-term business model, Universal second and Comcast third.

      Comcast's primary value *now* is its local monopolies on broadband and cable television, and the cable part isn't an actual monopoly if you take DirectTV and Dish into account as viable competitors for most households. But long-term, doesn't the whole viability of the cable television model look shaky? Netflix, HBO Now, Prime Instant, the whole streaming thing looks like its undermining their cable business.

      That leaves broadband, but who knows what that will look like in 5-10 years. 5G with high enough caps and/or more fiber rollouts could undermine that business, too.

      Universal is mostly a production studio, and their future is probably decent as a content production business -- maybe not big growth, but at least competitive if managed right.

      NBC still has a giant network of affiliates who actually broadcast their signal in addition to a fair amount of content that still draws eyeballs, which makes it seem to have some durability.

      So at the end of the day, Verizon, with its giant cell phone network and terrestrial network seems to have much more asset value and long-term value.

    3. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are severely underestimating the bandwidth capacity of coaxial cable, and overestimating the capabilities of wireless.

    4. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how. Who will float them the debt to do it? They already have nearly 105 billion in debt. They would need probably on the order of 200-250 billion to do it. Merge maybe but buy out? Doubtful.

    5. Re:WTF by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      I wonder how well NBC's books are actually doing.

      The Olympics have turned out to be a bad investment for NBC. They paid 12 Billion. But: “We wake up someday and the ratings are down 20 percent,” the chief executive officer of NBCUniversal said at a conference. “If that happens, my prediction would be that millennials had been in a Facebook bubble or a Snapchat bubble and the Olympics have come, and they didn’t know it.” They're blaming it on everything but the fact that some people want to watch sports and not fluff pieces and Chevy Ads.

    6. Re:WTF by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As a cable TV provider, you're correct. However, Comcast also has a large network of fiber and copper that provide high-speed data service to a captive audience. Not all Comcast infrastructure is legacy copper, and even the copper that is there is often just the local loop, backed by fiber a few blocks away..

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    7. Re:WTF by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Technically, Verizon is a Fortune 13 company, whilst Comcast is a Fortune 37.

      Interesting that Comcast bought DreamWorks Animation studio for $3.8 billion.

      So yeah, one big evil fish could buy one smaller bad fish. :-/

    8. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ...and even the copper that is there is often just the local loop, backed by fiber a few blocks away..

      Yep. Every single one of the major ISPs could bring fiber to the home in every major (and many minor) metro areas by running fiber from their existing, extensive loops lying a few blocks away into the buildings that they already serve. Why don't they do this? Why the fuck _would_ they reduce the output of their cash cow that they've been milking for _decades_ just to provide better service to their customers?

      Hell, in the long run, it's cheaper to pay state legislatures to make it illegal to provide better service than it is to permit to the door to be opened to competition along both the price and value axes.

      That's not to say that it would be prohibitively expensive to run (collectively) a couple thousand miles of fiber. (It's not, and hasn't been for _decades_.) That's to say that when you open the door to competition (or merely provide first-world Internet access to all in your existing footprint), your obscene profit margins get quite a bit smaller. Much cheaper to spend a few million now to destroy the ladder forever.

    9. Re:WTF by Dripdry · · Score: 1

      This should be modded up up up.
      Why? Think about it: Once they have the technology to animate and create extremely realistic-looking scenes, the owners can then create and distribute their own fake news at will; they will own everything from creation to delivery with no one to get in the way of pushing whatever agenda is bought by the highest bidder.
      You think people are divided into camps now? Just you wait until they wall off services and get people "on their network"

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    10. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being quite small and deeply debt ridden did not stop Charter from purchasing Time Warner Cable and Brighthouse Networks.

  10. Grow demand? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You want to grow demand for your product? How about offering a good product at a reasonable price? It's just so crazy it might work! You know what consumers want. You just refuse to sell it to them.

  11. Douchewaffles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nooooo both of these corporations are twats!! Straight anti-competition....not cool :\

  12. Trump will allow it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is just the first of many mergers, net neutrality reg repeals, and escalations of surveillance. Welcome to the alternative timeline.

  13. Reduces competition ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... for broadband in areas where Verizon and Comcast or Charter co-exist. So I'd say; go ahead and Verizon buy. As long as it sells off it's wireless service business in the overlapping areas.

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    1. Re:Reduces competition ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope Verizon buys Charter. Charter is known for rural coverage and Verizon has a very large wireless network that could benefit from such a sprawl of wires. Comcast doesn't make sense as an acquisition - who would want to own America's most hated company? Oh wait, I would, then I would fire management, integrate retention with the regular staff, simplify pricing, abolish contract terms, and offer a no questions asked cancellation. If you don't want service, you're not needed as a customer.

  14. Comcast and Verizon "compete" in some markets. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I lived in an area where the option was Verizon FiOS or Comcast. I'm not sure how anyone would let this through (well, someone let through the NBC/Comcast merger, so I guess anything's possible).

    Word verification: extort

  15. You mean Kabletown? by jbn-o · · Score: 1

    Is Kabletown getting a new owner?

  16. Backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon can't afford Comcast first off. Secondly, we need more competition in the telecom market not less. There's already collusion and illegal behavior as it is. Making the market smaller is a security risk to the US govt in my opinion. We need more telecoms that will truly compete with each other.

  17. Buy Comcast? With what money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon isn't buying Comcast. Verizon's market cap is roughly only 20% greater than Comcast's, and that's before Comcast's stock would get bid up on any credible news (this isn't credible). At best, it would be a merger of equals. At worst, Comcast buys Verizon in 2 years when current trend inverts the above.

  18. Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of all the things that are going to come out of the next 4 years the nonstop anti-consumer mergers (and the inevitable round after round of layoffs) is going to suck the hardest. This is pretty much why progressives fought to keep the $2 trillion in cash sitting offshore outside of American. Companies have pretty much admitted that almost none of that is going into R&D and instead they plan to spend it on M&A (Mergers and Acquisitions).

    You mentioned "next 4 years" as if that were a Trump thing, but you've got it backwards.

    Trump appears to be completely pro-consumer in his dealings with corporations; or in other words, a "populist" leader.

    Recently he came out against the anti-consumer policies of big pharma, and intends to put pressure on them to reduce consumer costs overall.

    He's met with several companies and suggested that there will be a tariff on off-shored work, with the result that several companies are pledging to keep work in America.

    He's also convinced Boeing to reduce costs, which isn't a consumer benefit per-se, but it saves the government from being fleeced by Boeing a little.

    It really appears that he's serious about making things better for the people. He's done a small amount before being elected, and appears to be trying to keep that campaign promise.

    When the article about minimum H1B salaries of $100K, people were saying "well, he got one thing right".

    Give him a chance.

    He might actually make things better.

    1. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you smoking? I mean really?

    2. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump "says" a lot of things.

      But the people he's proposed to appoint to the FCC are very "pro-business" and have already stated that they plan to quickly eliminate FCC net-neutrality and consumer protraction regulations.

      A Verizon and Comcast/Charter merger would probably be considered very favorably.

      He's "draining the swamp" by appointing alligators to key positions. Yeah, that's going to work.

    3. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean he's going to take out his running mate, his cabinet choices, and at least a few dozen members of congress, right before pulling the trigger on himself?

    4. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by TheLongshot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Trump is only interested in what makes him look good. Anything that benefits anyone else is only a byproduct of that.

    5. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All politicians are pro-consumer, pro-small business and against corporate greed and government waste, fraud, and abuse.

      Watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buddy, I've got a bridge to sell you.

      Sorry, but the GOP is lined up to fuck you hard and long. The only thing Trump is going to do is sell you Trump branded lube and tell you how you're getting the best ass-fucking, the greatest ass-fucking.

      Really fucking sick of the breathless Trump cheerleaders and he's not even technically in office yet.

      He's not getting a chance. It's going to be a loud, angry, in your face, tiring infuriating term.

      Election season 2020 started November 2015.

      There will be no peace. It will never end. You've won nothing but pain.

    7. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by rijrunner · · Score: 1

      His transition plan for the FCC includes removing all consumer protection functionality from the FCC. The Trump administration opposes Net Neutrality. In the matter being discussed here, his position is clear.

    8. Re:Because of Trump? You've got that backwards... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mentioned "next 4 years" as if that were a Trump thing, but you've got it backwards.

      Nope, it's forwards, the reality.

      Trump appears to be completely pro-consumer in his dealings with corporations; or in other words, a "populist" leader.

      Trump appears. That's the correct choice of words. He appears. Actually is.

      Recently he came out against the anti-consumer policies of big pharma, and intends to put pressure on them to reduce consumer costs overall.

      You mean he randomly babbled a pointless bit of words that mean nothing, and you bought it.

      He's met with several companies and suggested that there will be a tariff on off-shored work, with the result that several companies are pledging to keep work in America.

      You mean he's met with several companies and offered to hand them taxpayer dollars if they pretend to have work in the country.

      He's also convinced Boeing to reduce costs, which isn't a consumer benefit per-se, but it saves the government from being fleeced by Boeing a little.

      You mean he randomly spouted his mouth off (again, this is a habit of his), and complained about something that wasn't even real.

      It really appears that he's serious about making things better for the people.

      Based on what? His complete lack of authenticity and genuineness in his speeches and mannerisms?

      He's done a small amount before being elected, and appears to be trying to keep that campaign promise.

      When the article about minimum H1B salaries of $100K, people were saying "well, he got one thing right".

      Give him a chance.

      He might actually make things better.

      Nope. He has to change. Stop blathering, stop lambasting, stop acting like a tantrum toddler.

      You know, start growing up and acting adult. Not being an asshole.

  19. MaBell by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    In the 80's, the government forced the breakup of "the phone company", AT&T/The Bell System. It's taken a little over 30 years to be put back together. Basically, you have AT&T, and Verizon. What do you want to bet, that in a few years, after they've gobbled up what's left of any independent services, that Verizon & AT&T will merge and we'll be back where we started...and will need to break them up again. For the most part, it's a duopoly with AT&T and Verizon...for the most part.

    1. Re:MaBell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      will merge and we'll be back where we started...and will need to break them up again.

      I highly recommend encouraging more people that believe in breaking them up to run for local offices. Right now, I don't see a breakup happening. Of course it is possible they will try to merge under the bombastic one, but you never can tell what he will say or tweet.

      I'd like to see
      1) No bundle only deals. Offer the services independently. This includes tv channels. A reasonable discount can be made if you do order a bundle, but fair prices individually must exist.
      2) local ownership of data lines by a city managed coop, perhaps bidded out to a larger carrier periodically (data = tv, internet, phone, etc.)
      3) at&t and directv broken up.
      4) verizon not allowed to merge with a cable company
      5) data lines run to more areas...

    2. Re:MaBell by Gary+Perkins · · Score: 1

      I think the entire phone system could merge back into one company, and no one important will blink an eye. It's a different world. We now have various cellular companies offering phone service, not to mention hundreds (thousands?) of various sized VOIP internet companies.

      For instance, in my household alone I use a cell phone and MagicJack each tied to a Google Voice number. We use Spectrum/TWC here. Landline company mergers won't even affect many of us.

      While mergers could be a big problem for communities that are far from being served by cable or good cell service, it could be a nice incentive to start local internet co-ops.

    3. Re:MaBell by Dripdry · · Score: 1

      Look at the heads of AT&T back in the 80s, names of companies, names of executives spin-offs, and where the money went: AT&T was never broken up, it was just broken into a few pieces that easily colluded behind closed doors to ensure they would get back together eventually, after the people in office had left/given up/died.

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    4. Re:MaBell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not if the established carriers buy legislation to prevent others from starting up, like what's happening in Virginia.

  20. Never going to happen by chromaexcursion · · Score: 1

    The FTC, FCC, and Justice Dept. will have a field day.
    Verizon will never be able to buy Comcast.
    More likely the real target is Charter, and muddying the waters by throwing Comcast's name in is just a bargaining tactic.

  21. Too much overlap, not enough coverage by grumling · · Score: 1

    Verizon wants to do what AT&T tried to do in the 1990s, become a nationwide wireline provider. Didn't end so well for AT&T (real T, not former Bell South or whatever). Verizon is all about the northeast and mid-atlantic, where Comcast also has a big presence. But the rest of the country is covered by many different cable companies, and also a good bit of geography still has no cable at all. Hard to run national campaigns when most of the people watching aren't able to get your product.

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    1. Re:Too much overlap, not enough coverage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon wants to do what AT&T tried to do in the 1990s, become a nationwide wireline provider.

      They had the best cable business with FiOS in California, Texas, and Florida but sold it to Frontier, and now they want to go backwards with coax. Brain dead. If nationwide wireline was their objective, they would have never gotten rid of the best product they ever had in the west and south, they would have expanded it.

  22. Bad news for Comcast and Charter! by e432776 · · Score: 1

    at least going by Verizon's previous shopping spree. They might be "altabad"! (also, I propose we verbify "altaba").

  23. Merged corp. needs a name by dcavanaugh · · Score: 2

    I suggest VerComChaSuck.

    1. Re:Merged corp. needs a name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no, you've not read your history books. The future name of this company will be ComStar. (Spoilers follow)

      Their technicians will convert into a technical pseudo priesthood, and they'll have a government sanctioned monopoly on planetary (and interstellar) communication for at least a couple millennia. If you think your communication bill is high now, just wait! Sadly, they'll survive at least until a few years into Kerensky's Return, around 3055.

    2. Re:Merged corp. needs a name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just made my difficult day brighter with this reference.

    3. Re:Merged corp. needs a name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, you make an interesting point:
      The next step for each of these billionaires is to ascend to priesthood/godhood, to become spiritual beings to dominate mankind.
      In fact, as I see it, that would be a good way to end these guys (including Our Great Leader): Get them to think they're gods, let them "ascend" with their billions, then shut them off. What better way to "capitalize" on the insecurities of such greedy humans?

  24. They've been talking about the $100k salary thing by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    since the tail end of Obama's first term. Talking. No action. Same thing with Boeing. Lots of talk. No action. As soon as everybody's eyes are off it'll be BAU.

    Obama at least cock blocked the AT&T/Comcast. Yeah, Trump's said he's against it. But at this point that's a little like saying you're against Hitler and Stalin. It's not a controversial stance.

    I don't need to give Trump a chance. One look at the cavalcade of billionaires he's nominated for his cabinet (that guy who used to run Carls Jr is particularly bad) and I know where this is going. While I'm on the subject I've got friends who live and breath because of Obamacare. So far their 'alternative' is selling insurance across state lines; an idea that has been vetoed in the past because it just means the companies incorporate in whichever state has the weakest consumer protections. Meanwhile I get to go back to worrying about how the fuck I'm gonna afford Cobra if I change jobs.

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  25. One ISP To Rule Us All by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nuff said.

  26. Wireless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon wants home & business customers on wireless internet connections with data caps. Verizon 4G network is quickly becoming outdated. Verizon already dumped DSL service & FiOS (Verizon still owns the trademark) to Frontier. Comcast is a Cluster F of a bunch of small cable companies generally with different systems.

  27. then the biz-sociopath fools stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Historians advise shoot a few CEOs

  28. Shit Summary. Malone WHO? by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    The summary manages to mention someone named Malone, but only once and without saying who that person actually is.

    Nice work there editor. You lost the subject but left in a reference to it. Maybe the inevitable dupe post will fix this.

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  29. Re:Shit Summary. Malone WHO? by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    Forget that. I want to know how you got the headline "Verizon looking to buy Comcast or Charter" when there is a line that says "To be sure, Verizon is not in talks with any cable company and may not ever make such a move."

    WTF?

  30. Re: They've been talking about the $100k salary th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol fuck everyone but you right? Cause that's how the human race became so powerful, not through sharing and caring but raping and pillaging... You make me sick with your lack of empathy, hope you get cancer and die a slow painful bankrupting death.

  31. Re:Merged corp. needs a name (earlier run-thru) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Anon, just becuase.

    I worked for Alltel. Verizon bought us in 2008 -- excuse me, it was a "Merger of Equals" was the line the executives pushed within Alltel.

    Lowell McAdam and all the top executives came down to speak to us in Little Rock at Alltel Arena (Now Verizon Arena.) There were -- I don't know -- 400 people in the room. They had multiple meetings for different overall groups. We were the internal technical side.

    He gave a nice talk as well as the other executives and asked for audience questions. They got a few -- operations, job placement, HR items, and then THIS jewel: "So what is the new company going to be called?" Adams looks at him puzzled, the audience stirred confusingly, and I held my breath as I realized what he was actually trying to ask. The guy continued. ,"Well you said that this is a merger of equals so I was wondering what the new company will be called?"

    Adams pretty much looked at him with disdain and answered: "Verizon." After a second more of silence, he asked for any more questions.

  32. Re:They've been talking about the $100k salary thi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What unconstitutional burden? The requirement to buy health insurance or pay a tax?

    Have you even read the Constitution?

    And by the way, the free market in health care and health insurance produced a system with high inflation and low levels of service.

      But I suppose to some folks that's a feature and not a bug.

  33. Re: They've been talking about the $100k salary th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>you make me sick with your lack of empathy, hope you get cancer and die a slow painful bankrupting death.

    I sincerely hope this was supposed to be a joke otherwise I think you may need to brush up on your concept of empathy.

  34. It's all good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, we've got a Federal Trade Commisssion that will surely block such a merger on antitrust grounds. We've got an FCC that would block such a merger because it puts way too much content creation and content dissemination power in the hands of one corporation.

    The FTC and FCC will act to protect the consumer. Right?

    Right?

    What's that chirping... sounds like crickets!