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5G Internet is the 'Beginning of the Fourth Industrial Revolution' (cnbc.com)
Next-generation 5G mobile internet technology marks the beginning of the "fourth industrial revolution," the chief executive of Turkey's leading telecoms player told CNBC on Thursday. From a report: 5G is viewed as a technology that can support the developing Internet of Things (IOT) market, which refers to millions -- or potentially billions -- of internet-connected devices that are expected soon to come on to the market. Kaan Terzioglu, the chief executive of Turkcell, which has a market capitalization of $23 billion, touted the potential of the technology, saying that while 4G revolutionized the consumer market, 5G could transform the industrial space. "I think this is the beginning of the fourth generation of the industrial revolution. This will be the platform linking billions of devices together," Terzioglu told CNBC at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Turkcell has been working on 5G technologies since 2013 and this week completed a test in partnership with Ericsson, using the next-generation internet.
Give me a hardwired connection to the Internet any day rather than overpriced underperforming overbooked wireless.
So someone with a huge interest in seeing 5G data rollout says it'll be as big as industrial revolution. Fucking hardly.
A.I. stands a chance of doing so but improving a wireless technology does not. This is just idiocy I can't believe slashdot publishes this shit.
Everyday that passes I want to block slashdot in my /etc/hosts to break myself from the habit of coming here.
Haven't seen that much in a while.
5G is nothing to do with IoT. IoT is lots of devices very little bandwidth. 5G is tuned for very large bandwidth applications and has a generally quite high power consumption.
LoRa networks are the networks for IoT devices, unless these marketing numbnuts think IoT is about your toaster, connecting to your WiFi, connecting to 5G or some stupid idea like that.
Sensors everywhere will not make you happier, probably not even healthier. I am sure we will see a "smart" hammer that evaluates your swing and trains you soon.
I want less and less of this stuff.
I want my books printed not "e" these days.
I am tired of cloud crap, stop deleting my tunes and PDFs off my tablet without asking me.
We are in a bubble of "because we can" thinking, rather than products and services that are actually helpful, efficient, and life improving. Gadgets are lucky to have a 1 year lifespan, why would we want billions of them, mostly abandoned by the vendor and the owner alike, sitting on the web waiting to be exploited into botnets and such?
The subject came up a day or two ago, so i happen to have the wikipedia link handy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
In short:
1st IR was 18th and 19th centuries and was steam engines and iron and textile production.
2nd IR was 1870 to 1914 and was steel and oil and electricity and mass production.
3rd IR was 1980s to now, and is computers and networks.
The _theory_ is that the 4th industrial revolution is starting now, and will involve some combination of biotech, nanotech, AI, 3d printing, and (if you believe some people) the Internet of Things.
Personally i think that to the extent that you want to differentiate the current/upcoming situation from the 3rd IR/computer revolution, those first four items are all viable candidates for turning society on its head. I'm pretty skeptical about the IoT part though.
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What if your toaster could mine bitcoins and use the heat of the mining process to toast bread? Essentially free bitcoins!
5G: 0 to data cap in 30 seconds! Now that's a fast connection!
"5G is viewed as a technology that can support the developing Internet of Things (IOT) market, which refers to millions -- or potentially billions -- of internet-connected devices that are expected soon to come on to the market."
Sounds more likely to be the Beginning of End of the Internet As We Know It than the "fourth industrial revolution."
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
I want a "hard" off switch, and I want it where the device does not need access to the Internet. I've read in previous /. articles about some thermostats automatically turning off in 14 days if they don't have constant Internet access.
Realistically, I just don't want IoT functionality, period. There is nothing it gives me that I don't have already. My TV displays whatever is on the other on the HDMI cable; no more. My fridge keeps my beer cold; no more. If I wanted to pay a lot of money for a refrigerator, I'd buy a fridge that uses both natural gas and electricity so a blackout while I am gone doesn't mean fouled food when I return. I am not paying money for a fridge that can turn into a botnet client or a potential hazard if some hacker decides to turn it off while I am gone in hopes of causing food poisoning.
If IoT is a question, then "NO" is the answer.
For now we can... However, things change. For example, finding a vehicle that does not phone home 24/7 is a challenge. Right now IoT devices are an option, but with the fact that companies can make more money from the data stream coming from the device than the device itself, there is a good chance that the "option" part will disappear. We saw that with consoles which require a constant connection to function. We see this with Windows 10 and its telemetry gathering. IoT is often about dumping as much data as possible to a server, just because that data can be sold to someone, and because of shrink-wrapped EULAs, just by putting in an IoT++ light bulb into a socket, the user agreed to 24/7 monitoring.
why not make these things a part of an Intranet of Things
This is what I want. In an Internet outage, there's no reason my smartphone shouldn't be able to control a smart thermostat. Better still, this makes it more likely that there will be a way to make arbitrary connections to these devices from a home server and custom scripts. A lot of my home actually operates this way - I use an Amazon Dash button for my doorbell (ARP sniffing), my Asterisk caller ID shows up on my MythTV screen using contact photos from an offline cache of my Google Contacts. Just a few scripts as glue and I can do just about anything with devices that are made to be good citizens among arbitrary tech - it's why protocols were invented.