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Reddit Bans Far-Right Groups Altright and Alternativeright (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Social media site Reddit has banned two of the largest far-right "subreddits" groups it hosts, altright and alternativeright. The subreddits have been used in the organization of America's resurgent neofascist movement but the final straw for Reddit was the two groups' participation in what is known as "doxing": sharing private personal information without permission as a form of online harassment. The subreddits were specifically banned for breaking Reddit's content policy, according to a message posted by the site admins, "specifically, the proliferation of personal and confidential information." Reddit did not make it explicit which content infringed its rules, but it is believed to be attempts to dox the protestor who punched a white nationalist during a TV interview at Donald Trump's inauguration. Speaking to the Daily Beast, one Reddit moderator claimed that the ban was instead a result of its "record monthly traffic" (Reddit moderators, like the creators of individual subreddits, are all volunteers with no official relationship to the site's staff). "It's clear that Reddit banned us because we were becoming very popular and spreading inconvenient truths about who's ruining our country and robbing our children of a future," the moderator said.
They're going to ban them too, right?
If they think these people will go away, they're mistaken. Perhaps they feel they don't want to enable them by using Reddit's resources to organize, but, really, they were doing a huge service to the rest of society by keeping these posts out in the open where everybody can see them.
You can drive them all to locked sites on .onion services, but that is not in the public interest.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
You mean the guy who fabricated tweets about Leslie Jones to try to make her look like a racist. Yes, he doesn't care about skin color at all.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Oh bullshit. If the white supremacists can't post on major websites, they don't get stronger. They get weaker, because the successes they've had in the last few years largely come from the fact that they've been able to hijack places like Twitter and Facebook. If they're stuck on their IP address accessed web forums or on places like Stormfront, they end up becoming what they were before, a circle jerk of racists.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
How about hosting ANTIFA?
Now they show fascist tendencies. Rioting when Milo comes to speak. You don't like Milo don't go to his talks. Standing outside and protesting Milo is absurd. Rioting is fascist.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
The difference is that the "alt-right" is not actually a political ideology.
It largely consists of 4chan anons and Twitter eggs saying outrageous things they do not necessarily fully believe in order to intentionally get a rise out of people because "fuck political correctness and fuck SJWs".
It springs from the fact that you are not allowed to question any part of the doctrines of politically correct ideology (e.g., third-wave feminism, the trans-acceptance movement) without being called a bigot by "hashtag activists" online, who may go so far as to target your real-life job just for questioning or criticizing their views. Even if you do so politely.
So if you're not even allowed to question politely, then let's just be as offensive and outrageous as we possibly can. Even if that means grossly exaggerating what we actually believe.
At its core, that's what the "alt-right" is. There are of course real bigots who have joined the movement, and there are also people who have attached their real-life names to the movement in order to make money (e.g., Milo). But at its core, the alt-right is simply a bunch of people talking shit trying to get you upset.
If you went to /r/altright as an admitted liberal, they would ban you ASAP. And reddit admins were OK with that, and I'm very begrudgingly ok with that too. But the point is they had no interest in engaging in discussion with anyone who disagreed.
Milo, whether you like him or not, wrote an excellent article on what Alt-Right means.
Both you and AniMoJo are right (I can't believe I just said AniMoJo was right about something. Hell freezing over when...?). Spencer's "alt right" was just rebranded white nationalism. Then the term got popular among other toy ideologies, like neo-reaction and monarchism and things like that for people who oppose the left, but recognize that the mainstream GOP leadership is just a bunch of sell outs who play fight with the democrats and lose, so you don't really want to call yourself "right wing" because people just assume that means Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. Then the Trump revolution attracted a lot of other people who also don't agree with the mainstream GOP establishment, but really opposed either the left's identity politics/SJW moonbattery (like libertarians) or liked Trump's economic nationalist message (paleconservatives like Pat Buchanan who were opposed to free trade, mass immigration and empire). Oh look, here's a convenient term for people who have little in common except they oppose the left and the neocons, and that's what Milo (who could best be described as a social libertarian and professional troll) wrote about. It was also in this context that Steve Bannon said Bretbart was a platform for the alt right. NOT in the context of white nationalism but in the context of everyone who opposes the left and the neocon traitors. Then immediately after the election there's a video of Spencer saying "hail Trump" and by the left and media's one drop rule of Nazism if there's one Nazi under a label THEN EVERYTHING IS NAZIS.
There's no point using the term anymore by anyone who isn't a white nationalist, but I'm glad it's around, because it's useful schmuck bait for the left to attack. I'm a paleoconservative, and while I would have therefore been described by Milo's article, I have never self-identified as "alt right." Why would I? I was campaigning for Pat Buchanan in the 90s and don't need a new label. Let the left go screaming at the "alt right" which is basically Spencer's 300 people who showed up to his stupid NPI meeting. We paleocons, libertarians, and workers will be cheering on Trump's new Republican party as they run the government.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
The sad part about this is Reddit has admitted to changing posts to harass these guys before. It is just as likely that Reddit changed posts to look like these groups were doxxing and encouraging it just to take down them down over different ideology.
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That kind of ignorance doesn't hurt Republicans, it hurts Democrats and progressives.
Identity politics is a cancer to destroy the economic left. The plebs were getting too uppity about all that income inequality stuff during Occupy Wall Street. Switch the focus from "income inequality" to "racial income inequality." Switch the issue of CEO vs worker pay to "gender pay gap." Now the leftists no longer want to smash the system, they just want to make sure enough people with approved skin color and genitalia have token positions of power, too. Think Hillary was going to "smash the patriarchy?" Of course not. She just wanted to run it.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
When are individuals held responsible for their actions? I see many successful blacks in America one was the most powerful man on the planet. Statistics can highlight certain things but it can't tell you the why or how.
Statistically, if you don't want to be poor do 3 things:
1) graduate high school
2) get a full time job
3) get married before you have kids
Why is this advice falling on deaf ears? #3, probably the most important, is only about the choices you make and the black community has a problem with single parent house holds. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/...
I am sorry but at some point your actions have consequences. It isn't the white man or the police that are making poor decisions that are markers for poor economic outcomes. How much time must pass for the individual to be judged by their own actions without using statistics to dismiss their responsibility?
"Who gives a fuck?"
Trump does, many, many fucks.
The stupid asshole went in front of the CIA, stood with his back to their wall of nameless but honored dead and whined about how nobody believed how big, beautiful, fantastic & historic his inauguration audience was.
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
The women's march was about going from complacency (Obama was great, Hillary is great) to political activity (Trump is an a**hole). It was women who were not politically active saying, now I'm going to be politically active. The women who marched are now making phone calls, sending postcards, attending hearings at the state house, and sending checks. The women's march was I guess, if you're a guy, Tarzan banging his chest before he gets down to business.
Might as well face it I'm addicted to data.
I spent an hour or so reading the posts on altright and all I saw was doxing, how to start the race war, a fuck ton of crying about 'ni**ers' having their own country so why can't we, there truth equals a red pill and how to create fake planned parenthood signs (using the same font Hillary used) showing that the goal of planned parenthood was to abort white babies and save mixed race ones (even going as far as suggesting they were swapping sperm of the 'inferior reacts'.
So if that's the truth people are talking about I'll pass.
Well. YOUR definition is based on Spencer. Try reading the Milo piece on the subject. You'll see that Alt-Right is a much broader term than you give it. As a free-market, live-and-let-live, proudly atheist libertarian I have been called Alt-Right numerous times.
So. Many, many people, both on the left and right, do not consider Alt-Right to be simply White Nationalism
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
And one of the primary inspirations for the Black Lives Matter movement is a cop killer and 'domestic terrorist' on the FBI's Most Wanted List, with a $2M reward on her head, according to the original founders and promoters of the hashtag and larger movement.
This isn't a conspiracy theory. A *attributed* quote from Assata Shakur is on their homepage and if you head over to Youtube, you can hear this very line being chanted in unison at dozens of different BLM protests. The women in question are widely considered to be the founders and coordinators of BLM and have given countless interviews and speeches on the subject, including one at TED (not even TEDx, but straight TED.)
But guess what? I don't assume that the majority of people who support Black Lives Matter are pro-terrorism. It's a tiny fraction. It's a tiny fraction that happens to be running the show, but a tiny fraction nonetheless.
And the same goes with the alt-right and actual racists and actual Nazis. Trash the founders all you want, but it's going to end very, very badly if the left continues to treat the entire movement and label as a monolith.