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Cutting H-1Bs Could Mean More Competition From China and India, Says GoDaddy CEO (cnbc.com)
Silicon Valley companies continue to express their concerns about the restrictions on H-1B visa program. The H-1B visa program -- which enables U.S. companies to hire foreign workers -- has become a political lightning rod but remains essential for American companies to hire the technical talent they need to compete on a global scale, said GoDaddy CEO Blake Irving. From his interview on CNBC: "We do not produce enough technically qualified candidates in this country," he said. "You can't take an 18-month training program and produce a machine-learning scientist." Irving was particularly concerned about overseas competition. The American university system is good at training foreign workers for tech jobs, and it is essential that the U.S. government allows them to stay in the country to fulfill U.S. jobs, he said. Otherwise, we train workers from countries like China and India and then send them back to those countries to set up tech ecosystems that compete with Silicon Valley.
Competition is generally regarded as a good thing. When these people stay in the USA, they generally depress wages and send all the money they earn back to their home countries anyway, which does the rest of the US economy no good at all. Really I'm not sure we should even have any sort of H1-B program at all.
anyone who has attended university in the last 10 years knows whats up with chinese students
they band together in 3s and 4s and join your team for the group project
then do no work
its a reason schools have had to adopt peer reviews and individual assignments of group projects
they also cheat like mofos and the u's response is "be culturally sensitive they are group oriented"
yea, well fuck that you're diluting the value of my degrees by letting rich chinese push their shit children through the system
The Trump administration is considering reprioritizing H-1B visas. Right now, such visas are given out based on a lottery around April 1, which is utterly irrational and chaotic; it causes outsourcing firms to flood the visa application process with numerous fake applications, instead of the visas going to US companies that actually need those workers. Under the new rules, H-1B visas would be given to the highest paid workers and with precedence to people graduating from US universities. No matter what you think about the absolute number of H-1B visas, that's a good change to the immigration program.
If, in addition, the US reduces the number of work visas, that would result in more foreign competition, unless made up for elsewhere. But Trump has generally advocated a merit-based immigration system, which may mean more skilled immigrants (as opposed to H-1B visa holders) and less unskilled labor and family-based immigration. Again, that seems like a win-win.
Of course, we'll have to see what he actually does. The Orange One is a bit unpredictable and tends to act rashly.
A lot of the moves that new administration suggested as making things better for the US worker, actually undermines the USA's position in the world and actually will end up potentially hurting jobs. Often the "take it all" approach it actually the less ideal position of giving up a little.
Helping NATO's members and the UN, while maybe not the best sounding when it comes to money, it does end up allowing the US to have sway over the politics of other countries and therefore help keep the US as a focal point for business.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
No matter the issue, Trump doesn't understand anything other ratings and popularity. He gets a certain segment of the population riled up with really simple ideas 1) we're bringing jobs back 2) every problem you have is the fault of this group of people 3) if the jobs don't come back, it the fault of another group of people
He sets the stage for other people to fight it out and get attention for himself. He has absolutely no interest in solving problems, no ability to understand what his actions do, and no empathy for the people he affects.
This shit will continue.
I work with dozens of H1B visa holders. I scoured the lands of the US for 1.5 years to fill a vacant position and I couldn't find anyone in the US to do it. I work in NIH funded research and needed a programmer at $45k/yr. I was fine with a new college grad, and I still couldn't find anyone. Eventually I get an email from someone in Turkey, and we hired her. She's amazing. However if this shit with the H1B's goes through, we can't pay her and she'll have to go back. I won't be able to fill the position. We'll have to let go 6 employees whom we can't replace. If just this H4E spousal visa shit happens, then my employee's husband will have to leave. The spouses of 3 of our employees would have to leave.
Why can't we find the right people here? I honestly don't know. I went to every college in the area and said "If you have taken a programming class, I want you. I'll pay you. I'll train you in the languages we use" and no responses. Why??
http://github.com/gbook/nidb
I once had a gig as a project manager. Had a budget, needed devs. I could have called Tata, and had a regiment come in fresh off the boat, moving in lockstep, but I found it was cheaper to post some ads at the CS department of the local universities, interview some very intelligent people, ask them some basic coding questions, then get the project going.
Was on time and on target with the dev team. However, the company I was with got bought out, and the whole division offshored.
I can find more talent in the town, in the relatively non-techie state I live in (Austin, Texas), than I ever could by playing the H-1B lottery.
The problem w/ all these employers is that they are excessively picky, and want people who have 'domain knowledge' i.e. if they're wanted in a company like Verisign, then they want somebody from a company in the same sector. So if they are looking for programmers in say, Securities, then they'll look at Wells, BofA, Chase, et al, tossing in requirements like familiarity w/ Bond Math. When they don't get them, they'll start looking for people w/ visas, and asking to import them. It's hard for the Department of Labor to tell them to accept someone w/ some of the qualifications and train them or get them experienced in the segment that's wanting
the relatively non-techie state I live in (Austin, Texas)
Remind me, is Austin the third largest tech hub in the US behind Silicon Valley and Seattle or did Denver knock it down to fourth?
Relatively non-techie compared to what, fucking Missouri?
There are a lot of problems with flat salaries, but the biggest one is that the salaries of CEOs are not flat. I could accept your brush off if everyone was experiencing the same thing. Do CEOs not compete with other CEOs in the same way that all workers compete? Yet somehow everyone seems to be affected by this except for the highest echelon. We are all in the same economic system, yet the forces do not seem to apply to all players equally.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.