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97 Tech Companies Including Apple, Google, Microsoft Call Travel Ban Unlawful In Rare Coordinated Legal Action (washingtonpost.com)
An anonymous reader shares a WashingtonPost report: Silicon Valley is stepping up its confrontation with the Trump administration. On Sunday night, technology giants Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Netflix, Twitter, Uber and many others filed a legal brief opposing the administration's contentious entry ban. The move represents a rare coordinated action across a broad swath of the industry (Editor's note: the link could be paywalled; alternate source) -- 97 companies in total -- and demonstrates the depth of animosity toward the Trump ban. The amicus brief was filed with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, which is expected to rule within a few days on an appeal by the administration after a federal judge in Seattle issued late Friday a temporary restraining order putting the entry ban on hold. The brief comes at the end of a week of nationwide protests against the plan -- as well as a flurry of activity in Silicon Valley, a region that sees immigration as central to its identity as an innovation hub.From a TechCrunch report: Notably absent from the list of 97 companies are several who met with Trump prior to his inauguration: Amazon, Oracle, IBM, SpaceX and Tesla. Although Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos was highly critical of Trump prior to his election, he has not spoken out against the immigration policy. Oracle CEO Safra Catz is serving as an advisor to the Trump transition team, while SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk has defended his decision to remain on an advisory council for Trump.
all those big wig IT executives that want to open the floodgates for refugees open their homes and guest houses to refugees
Not a chance. They'll do what the elitist pricks in France and Italy did while cheering on the "migrants" and so on. Cheer, cheer, cheer while they're flooding in and the average person gets fucked. Then when they show up on their door step, scream "help me police and government, you're our only hope." And build a wall or two while they're at it.
Om, nomnomnom...
The next presidential decrete sets the number of H1-B visas to be given out the next 4 years to 0, while congress gets to pass a law to end the H1-B visas completely.
While this condemnation of the travel ban is laudable, I don't think that it will have much impact on Mr. Trump simply because he is something of a Luddite - don't forget that through the Clinton email scandal, Mr. Trump declared that he thinks computers are overused for communication and, other than Twitter, it doesn't seem like he uses anything other than paper.
Along with this, I suspect that if you were to look at where these companies' employees were situated, you would discover that they would be overwhelmingly in constituencies which didn't vote for him which really makes their value to him in retaining power negligible. If it is extremely unlikely that they would support him.
So, if he doesn't see the value of the technology being represented by these companies and nobody in them votes for him, why would anybody think this would have affect on him or anybody in his administration?
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First red flag here - why are only tech companies doing this? Where are the other blue chip companies? if this is a huge problem for teh US, and is unlawful, why is the only sector speaking up the same sector that imports the most foreign workers on restricted visas?
It is another example of the absolute greed that afflicts the IT sector. They are afraid that they will not be able to hire maggots because the maggot wranglers will not be able to get enough visas to replace American workers.
The Republicans have been doing this since 2008. Some of people we consider moderates today actually originally rode to power harnessing the Tea Party movement that incubated the more extreme Trump agenda. Right now, they have complete control over two branches of government, and the only reason they don't control the third is that it's not elected.
So given it's worked for them so far, I can't imagine it'll destroy them until the US itself is completely destroyed by this insanity.
I suspect the next few elections will be more "Can we elect people who'll keep the Trump regime under control?" rather than "Can we make Elizabeth Warren President and get universal healthcare back?"
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I noticed that one of the countries that are in the Trump list is Iraq. Lots of refugees there caused by the destabilization of the country caused by some other country invading it. I wonder what country that was? Then there is another country where the 9-11 terrorists came from that isn't affected by the travel ban. I wonder why that is? Could someone in this administration have a financial interest in this country? Nah, I can't believe something like that. Administration folks are good honest outstanding citizens to have any conflict of interest.
Then how the hell did he win the election?
There are three kinds of falsehood: the first is a 'fib,' the second is a downright lie, and the third is statistics.
"Corporations are evil. If a bunch of corporations all want something, it must be disastrous for regular people."
Liberals, 1992 - 2017
"Corporations are humanitarian. Look how many corporations are opposing Donald J. Hitler."
Liberals, 2017 - ongoing
I'm a bit disturbed to see Musk sucking up to Trump. Does anyone have a reliable source on why he's doing it?
My guess is that he has no choice. One of his companies (SpaceX) depends a lot on government money. Trump could deeply damage it with a penstroke by excluding it from ISS resupply missions, or forbidding it to compete for national security launches. His other company (Tesla) does not go well with Trump's love for the oil industry.
entropy happens
lack of people willing to work in the location
Ah yes that's the game they play. At one time they would have to pay someone specifically to move to that location but today they don't.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Hmm list of TBTFs make extra legal argument to try and influence what should be a narrow legal question about the scope of a 1952 immigration act.
It does not matter if you or anyone else things the action is a good idea. What matters is a very simple Question of did the legislation enacted by congress give the president the power to do what he did or not. Washington State and these mega corps are conflating irrelevant issues and trying to get the courts to act outside the law. They don't care about the rule of law. They care about their influence and want to prove theirs is greater than POTUS.
This is ACTUAL fascism folks, what these corporations are doing right here. Judge James Robart ought to be impeached, because he never should have issued a stay on something so impactful when the legal challenge is as weak as it is. I don't care who appointed him or how unanimously he was confirmed. Those things also are not relevant, the only thing that matters is can and will he do his job today and he showed he cant!
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And yet, on the level of the "law", these two issues have nothing to do with each other. H1B is done via Department of Labor, border issues are Homeland. Now this EO does impact H1B holders from the "unlucky 7", so there is cross-contamination.
Trump must be stomping his feet around, cursing and screaming right now. Personally, I think this "ban" is one of the worst implementation ever. Wrong countries, no policies or procedures for the various people expected to implement it, zero involvement of anyone outside Trump's inner circle...but these 97 companies are poking a hornet's nest. Trump is very vindictive; his "work visa" reform will now probably be even more restrictive and down-right punitive against Silicon Valley.
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A word to the wise: always check the user ID and compare it to your own before you use that particular opening. In this case: 241428 1411889, meaning that he/she has been here a while longer than you.
It's not just "no American", it's "no American available to fill the post" for a given price
The citizens are quite available, the companies have to quit being picky.
while stats keep saying that these companies that are supposedly abusing the system are mostly whit
Easy to say that when the firm contracts out to a body shop, thus rendering any and all calculations invalid.
You can argue that companies should be required to help Americans move to fill posts
Even if it's entry-level work, I'd have no problem with that.
Make it such a royal PITA to not [directly] hire a citizen for an FTE position that they don't bother with non-citizens.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
If that is the goal, then it is sheer stupidity. Having the US government spiral into chaos domestically as it leaves a trail of ruin through foreign allies may disrupt the status quo, but it won't produce some sort of fantastic result.
As it is, it's pretty clear that this is going to be a stress test of the Constitution, because the courts, and likely a somewhat unwilling Congress, are now going to have to spend a lot of time minimizing the damage of the Trump administration. I wonder if the end result will in fact be a diminished Presidency.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I was white. intel hires MOSTLY 'for diversity' and I was told flat-out that I was the 'wrong color' and intel needed more non-whites.
Your lack of maturity while speaking about a previous employer tells me one thing but the statement I quoted tells me you are lying. NOT ONE HR department would make the mistake of saying such a thing. Sounds like Trump alternative fact makeup.