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Movie Industry Wants Irish ISPs To Block Pirate Movie Streaming Portals (torrentfreak.com)

The Motion Picture Association is trying to have three popular streaming portals blocked by Irish Internet providers. In a new court case, the movie studios describe movie4k.to, primewire.ag and onwatchseries.to as massive copyright infringement hubs, with each offering thousands of infringing movies. From a TorrentFreak report: RTE reports that the MPA's fresh blocking demands are targeting a total of eight ISPs -- Eir, Sky Ireland, Vodafone Ireland, Virgin Media Ireland, Three Ireland, Digiweb, Imagine Telecommunications and Magnet Networks. Based on yesterday's hearing it appears to be only a matter of time before the three sites will be blocked. None of the ISPs have raised principle objections against a court determination in this case. That said, reports suggest that there are still a few finer details that have to be worked out, which could include issues regarding costs and the technical implementation.

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  1. Let's hope they don't succeed... by admin7087 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Otherwise my girlfriend will get very, very angry, and I'm going to be the one who has to 'fix' the streaming for her *again*...

    (Before someone asks: No, the obscure old TV series she likes to watch are not available for purchase where we live.)

    1. Re: Let's hope they don't succeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      God needs to stay out of my tv rights, unless he is a registered voter.

    2. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Copyright violation is not theft. And if it were, it would be pretty hard to steal something that is not (lovemaking or otherwise) available anyway. And if the girlfriend was born on this side of the pond, she had the right to see anything she wanted to see. After WW II, we were granted the right to receive all signals as a basic freedom (the Germans had made listening to free radio stations a crime). I know the industry wants to take all rights away, including the fundamental ones, but for now the radio freedom is still a fundamental part of being a free citizen.

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    3. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That does not mean it's OK to steal them. Stop trying to rationalize your theft. If they are not available, the are not fucking available. You are not entitled to them, your girlfriend was not born with the god-given right to watch those particular TV shows.

      But clearly they are available. The issue of entitlement is arguable, but not that.That is exactly the problem when "pirates" provide not just a cheaper service, but a fundamentally better one, than commercial operators. You would presumably have us just pretend that those obscure series aren't available on unofficial streams, just pretend that it's impossible to watch a movie without forced trailers shown before it, just pretend that the movies and music you paid for can't be delivered in a form that can readily be watched on your tablet or played in your car. But you know what? Some of us don't like to pretend - reality is better.

    4. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 2

      The RIAA, MPAA, and their equivalents in other countries are THE ENEMY. Anything that works against their interests is A Good Thing.

    5. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by diesalesmandie · · Score: 1

      Otherwise my girlfriend will get very, very angry, and I'm going to be the one who has to 'fix' the streaming for her *again*...

      That's pretty condescending towards your girlfriend, oh wise wizard of all things computer. If finding a new stream is simply a matter of a 'fix' to you (*again* suggests you have done this at least once before) then you are also a drama queen. Sheesh.

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    6. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      You can't have it both ways. If something is not available for licensing, there no loss in not licensing it. Anything else would be inconsistent logic.

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    7. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Everything on TV, past and present, isn't your fucking property.

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    8. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Listening to satellite transmissions without permissions is a crime. So I guess the Germans won.

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    9. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      That does not mean it's OK to steal them. Stop trying to rationalize your theft. If they are not available, the are not fucking available. You are not entitled to them, your girlfriend was not born with the god-given right to watch those particular TV shows.

      Although I agree with you about the "entitlement" status people have given themselves, I have however changed my view on this topic in recent years.

      Content makers must allow streaming services to have more flexibility. I don't see a problem with movies being dealt with the same way music is. Buy a copy for $1 or whatever a reasonable price is. That's a model I can get behind. Fact is, most people are paying upwards for $20/month for movie channels on cable. If they aren't willing to pay the PPV price to own a title then there's no winning with those people.

    10. Re: Let's hope they don't succeed... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      God doesn't care about that fucking shit.

      S/he didn't care about this fucking shit.

      About the Photo of the Dead Boy on the Beach

      #priorities

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    11. Re:Let's hope they don't succeed... by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      The laws where I live are still reasonable. The *IAs are mostly irrelevant and we are always working to keep them that way.

      And Trump just killed the TPP, that had all sorts of nasty copyright overreach in it so very good to see it dead. That does not make me like him though, I'm sure he had no idea regardless.

      And movies are entertainment. Hardly worth censoring the internet for.

  2. Participation zero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All the "celebrities" taking political stands these days has turned into a nice money saving opportunity. Bring on the torrents!

  3. Where one falls... by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 3

    Where one falls, two shall rise in its place.

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    You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
    1. Re: Where one falls... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Im Irish and a big Trump supporter.
      From my cold dead hands will they take my piracy and privacy. Theres always a way.

      Not paying sh** for movies at exorbitant prices to fuel my other halfs interest in liberal holywood BS movies.

    2. Re:Where one falls... by Negafox · · Score: 1

      ... with even more pop-up, redirect and page ads.

    3. Re:Where one falls... by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      I read this almost at the exact same time as I heard someone on the news say "Jamais deux sans three" (Never two without three).

  4. 3 good leads by karlandtanya · · Score: 5, Funny

    For those who haven't heard the joke (it's an old one):

    Tommy O’Connor went to confession and said, “Forgive me father for I have sinned.”
    “What have you done, Tommy O’Connor?”
    “I had sex with a girl.”
    ”Who was it, Tommy?”
    “I cannot tell you father, please forgive me for my sin.”
    ”Was it Mary Margaret Sullivan?”
    “No father, please forgive me for my sin but I cannot tell you who it was.”
    “Was it Catherine Mary McKenzie?”
    “No father, please forgive me for my sin.”
    “Well then it has to be Sarah Martha O’Keefe.”
    “No father, please forgive me, I cannot tell you who it was.”
    ”Okay, Tommy go say 5 Hail Mary’s and 4 Our Fathers and you will be absolved of your sin.”

    So Tommy walked out to the pews where his friend Joseph was waiting.

    “What did ya get?” asked Joseph.
    “Well I got 5 Hail Mary’s, 4 Our Fathers, and 3 good leads.”

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  5. How it should be done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Go to court specifically for each site and rule specifically for each site. Proof required of infringement. That is how it should be handled instead of blanket shutdowns upon simple requests.

    Then the plaintiff should pay all legal costs of the ISP as well as execution costs.

    1. Re:How it should be done. by myowntrueself · · Score: 2

      Go to court specifically for each site and rule specifically for each site. Proof required of infringement. That is how it should be handled instead of blanket shutdowns upon simple requests.

      Then the plaintiff should pay all legal costs of the ISP as well as execution costs.

      I was thinking the ISP should reason like this
      "Obviously the MPA think these movies are worth a lot of money. So they should be willing to PAY A LOT OF MONEY for us to block access to them. Ca-ching! $$$$$$$"

      and then charge them the same amount the MPA claim to be losing to piracy.

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  6. What a coincidence! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    The rest of the world wants ISP all over the globe to finally block the Movie industry from interfering with our streaming.

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  7. Thanks for the leads by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 2

    I did not know about those sites. I will make sure to bookmark them. Thanks, MPA.

  8. Thanks! by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

    Most folks here probably wouldn't have known about these three sites had they not been given free publicity courtesy of the MPAA!

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  9. It's over ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... anyway.

    Owners can play whack-a-mole through the courts, but binary is public domain and don't give a shit.

    As soon as IP is digitized, it's in the public domain "est quod est."

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    Know what's smarter than a mother fucker with a computer?

    Another mother fucker with a computer. ~ © 2017 CaptainDork

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  10. I'm rather curious by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Although Arkell v. Pressdram was a libel case in Egland, the principle is still applicable here.

    Namely, what would happen if the ISPs told the MPAA to fuck off?

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  11. Re: Blocked in Northern Ireland by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Why not express your absence of support by ceasing to give them money? Support businesses who behave in a manner you agree with.