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State-sponsored Hackers Targeting Prominent Journalists, Google Warns (politico.com)

State-sponsored hackers are attempting to steal email passwords of a number of prominent journalists, Google has warned. The hackers are suspected to be Russians, reports POLITICO. Some of the journalists who have received such warnings from Google as recent as two-to-three weeks ago include Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine, Julia Ioffe, who recently started at The Atlantic, Ezra Klein of Vox, and CNN's Brian Stelter. From the report: "The fact that all this started right after the election suggests to me that journalists are the next wave to be targeted by state-sponsored hackers in the way that Democrats were during it," said one journalist who got the warning. "I worry that the outcome is going to be the same: Someone, somewhere, is going to get hacked, and then the contents of their Gmail will be weaponized against them -- and by extension all media."

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  1. Russian hackers = the best by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just amazing the reach of Russian hackers. First, they managed to get the DNC & Hillary Clinton to write thousands of self-incriminating (and on Hillary's side, remarkably foul-mouthed - or is it foul-keyboarded?) emails. Then they suborned the DNC to steal the nomination from Sanders and give it to Clinton, to give Trump an easier opponent. Next they induced a DNC staffer named Seth Rich to steal the compromising emails and give them to Wikileaks, which dutifully publishes them, showing the DNC to be corrupt and Hillary to be venal. Then they managed to get Rich to set himself up for a mugging in which he is shot twice in the head but nothing is stolen. Then they manipulated the Director of the FBI to announce just before the election that many, many thousands of emails potentially involving Hillary have been found and need to be examined. And finally, they finessed the US intelligence community into believing he hacked those DNC computers to influence the election, thereby concealing - and taking off the discussion table - any examination of the DNC's & Hillary's wrongdoing.

    I heard that they found the cell-phone-smashing sledge hammer in Putin's basement!

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    1. Re:Russian hackers = the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You're apparently a moron or pretending to be one for the purpose of conflating news events... The fact is there are state sponsored crackers in Russia and their methods have been documented. They attack journalists in Russia and opposition figures, Ukraine military, and yes they attacked bot GOP and DNC campaigns. Being stupid is your right as an American I suppose, but no one here should bother entertaining your sarcastic and poorly conceived notions of how intelligence and propaganda campaigns are carried out in 2017.

    2. Re: Russian hackers = the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Yes, yes, you deeply believe in corruption and evil on the Democratic side, but are utterly silent when it comes to hawking sweatshop made Trump branded products from the White House. Something that unlike your phantoms, actually happened.

      Seriously, I bet you can't even work up the nerve to admit that Putin is a grade-A despot, as inclined to deception, malice, and corruption as anybody you can name, and Trump is at best, his stooge, at worst, his patsy.

      But even if we ignore that, you're going to have to deal with the incompetence of Devos, the bigotry of Sessions, the corruption of Price, the cowardice of McConnell and the shallowness of Ryan.

    3. Re:Russian hackers = the best by Fragnet · · Score: 1, Redundant

      For godssake, what am I missing here? I grew up during the Cold War. Not only were journalists regularly bugged and burgled, they were often spies themselves.

      Please, everybody born after 1989 learn a little history in college. Drop your feminist dance therapy major.

    4. Re:Russian hackers = the best by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Allow me to summarize your post for the benefit of everyone:

      This news story doesn't fit my worldview and/or my personal agenda, so I'll just mock and ridicule it, LOL

    5. Re:Russian hackers = the best by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      I agree with you, the OP is clearly too young to know about such things, probably believes all that is just stuff from movies and isn't real -- or the OP voted for Trump and/or needs to have his bloodwork checked for excessive lead contamination.

    6. Re:Russian hackers = the best by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I think it's likely the latter. At this point there's still way too much emotional investment in some quarters to Trump to admit that the Russians are quite willing and capable of all manner of mischief. Which seems odd, considering the US isn't the only place Russia is mucking around, and concerns over electoral and political integrity is a growing issue in Europe right now.

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    7. Re:Russian hackers = the best by negRo_slim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're apparently a moron or pretending to be one for the purpose of conflating news events... The fact is there are state sponsored crackers in Russia and their methods have been documented. They attack journalists in Russia and opposition figures, Ukraine military, and yes they attacked bot GOP and DNC campaigns. Being stupid is your right as an American I suppose, but no one here should bother entertaining your sarcastic and poorly conceived notions of how intelligence and propaganda campaigns are carried out in 2017.

      No proof, no belief.

      And I don't even doubt much that it could be Russians but show us the fucking proof for Christ's sake!

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    8. Re:Russian hackers = the best by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      So, basically, 'Never underestimate the awesome power of denial'? :-)

      My personal opinion is that Putin would like to resurrect the Soviet Union, or at least a version of it; he's got his eye on empire-building, and the U.S. and it's allies would definitely stand in his way. Stands to reason that being supportive (both overtly and clandestinely) of a totally inexperienced, arrogant fool like Trump would further that agenda. Get the U.S. and it's allies in disarray because we have a totally inappropriate and disruptive President, and it makes it that much easier to acquire territory in Europe.

    9. Re:Russian hackers = the best by grcumb · · Score: 2

      So based on your "I grew up in the cold war" anecdotes about SO MANY -(Citation needed) journalists being spies...

      Spies is a strong word to use, but yes, it was more or less assumed that journalists from behind the Iron Curtain were intelligence operatives and were expected to gather information and data about much more than they wrote about. Likewise, there were more than a few writers and reporters who knowingly (and sometimes unknowingly) provided the CIA with intelligence from their areas of expertise.

      This doesn't imply cloak-and-dagger stuff, or breaking into offices late at night (let's leave the Nixon White House out of this, shall we?). For the most part, it would take the form of one or more journalists hanging out after work and trading scuttlebutt—interesting and useful information that was either not newsworthy or not well-enough sourced to report on. There would frequently be a CIA intelligence operative present during the conversation, and they didn't always try very hard to hide it.

      Let it be known that this channel never entirely dried up. I've had several conversations with 'embassy staff' who were clearly trying to pump me for information. And I'm happy to share with them what I'd share with anyone else. If that helps them get a better understanding of a sensitive situation, then I've done my job as a journalist and a responsible citizen.

      To take a slightly more controversial example, consider Gloria Steinem's famous escapades as a 'recruiter' for CIA propaganda operations. She willingly accepted payment for identifying people to speak at international conferences who would tout the government line about freedom and democracy. The CIA considered this a necessary tactic to thwart the flood of communist and socialist messaging that was flowing in from Soviet-funded sources. Ms Steinem had no qualms about taking cash for it, and although I would baulk at accepting payment for something done out of principle, I can't say for certain I wouldn't have done the same thing as she did.

      nobody should believe anything reported about state sponsored hacks, because the reporters themselves might be "in" on it?

      No, all he's saying is that context matters. Attempts to spy on reporters, overtly and covertly, have been ongoing since reporters first existed. And reporters are—or should be—aware of it, too. It really does come with the territory.

      Please continue dancing around while you mention feminism for no reason.

      Yeah, the anti-feminism jab was gratuitous and out of line. You've got a solid point there. But just because he can act like a dick doesn't mean he's entirely wrong.

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    10. Re: Russian hackers = the best by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Wait a minute, I thought Trump is Bannon's puppet? So which is it, Putin or Bannon?

      Sessions? The same Sessions who got an award from the NAACP for breaking up the KKK? Racist? I'm getting cognitive dissonance here.

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  2. Bull Pucky by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nonsense. This is just more fake news from a bunch of snowflake libertards seeking to illegitimize our great president, The Honorable William J. Le Petomane.

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    1. Re:Bull Pucky by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. This is just more fake news from a bunch of snowflake libertards seeking to illegitimize our great president, The Honorable William J. Le Petomane.

      On the bright side, given his track record in Atlantic City, the Trump Memorial Gambling Casino for the Insane would probably go bankrupt pretty quickly.

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    2. Re:Bull Pucky by notputin · · Score: 1

      We simply cannot underestimate his greatness in this matter. These fake news stories do nothing but harm our great relationship with such powerful countries!

    3. Re:Bull Pucky by uniquegeek · · Score: 1

      The EFF disagrees with you. Journalists, both high-profile and not, have been specifically targeted with exploit kits for some time.

      The usual reason is goverments want to uncover who protected sources are.

    4. Re:Bull Pucky by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Whooooooooosh!

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    5. Re:Bull Pucky by hey! · · Score: 1

      You are making a Blazing Saddles reference, I know, but the actual Le Pétomane was an interesting character. He was a French professional flatulist. He was the toast of Paris until, disgusted by WW1, decided humanity did not deserve his art and retired to run a bakery in Marseilles.

      It's enough to make you believe in a God -- albeit of the kind who would mock a noble soul with a ridiculous talent.

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  3. Hard Time Believing by bheilig · · Score: 1

    I just have a really hard time believing the Russian hacker narrative. Can't explain why. Maybe it seems too convenient for the DNC.

    1. Re: Hard Time Believing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Without going into details, I work for a hosting provider and we see ongoing access attempts that can only have originated from state actors. There is quite a large divide in experience between Google and someone who managed to get one whole server on the interwebs.

    2. Re:Hard Time Believing by mmell · · Score: 1
      Why, you're brilliant! You need to notify the NSA and the CIA immediately, so they'll stop wasting money, resources and effort on Russia and concentrate on more dangerous and subversive players. Sanctuary cities, for example.

      Then again, maybe the cabal wasn't clearly described for you. I'll be happy to help you with the big words, if that'll help.

    3. Re:Hard Time Believing by mmell · · Score: 1

      Hey, MM - lay off the ad hominem jazz. Won't accomplish anything, it just plays into the hands of the current White House and their Russian allies.

    4. Re:Hard Time Believing by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The only countries not hacking are the ones incapable of doing so. Russia has, well, leaky digital infrastructure and as such it is the number one point for digital hack routing. In fact if you do not hack via a Russian IP, you are pretty much an amateur. There are quite a few countries that are the sources of attacks but not the originators, in fact the only country not likely to be hacking from a Russia IP would be Russia, think of how stupid that would be (well that was a super easy hack to block it had a Russia IP). Not that it would not happen but it is far more logical to route the attack through another country and they would all be doing, well, at least they should be ;).

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  4. If your personal emails are released... by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... and there's nothing unprofessional in them, the more embarrassing some personal stuff may be the more sympathy you'll get from the public and against the hackers.

    On the other hand if the emails reveal unethical behavior, collusion with one party or one particular candidate of the party that goes against the journalistic integrity, then what I can tell you. Be a better professional.

    1. Re:If your personal emails are released... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      In order to stay more focused on the real concern, let's keep our eye on the ball, OK?

      It's the little round thing.

      The takeaway here is that Gmail is crappy.

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    2. Re:If your personal emails are released... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

      On the other hand if the emails reveal unethical behavior, collusion with one party or one particular candidate

      The same could be said for Republicans who are trying to hide their tracks.

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    3. Re:If your personal emails are released... by uniquegeek · · Score: 1

      It's not just "someone read the emails". It also gives them an easy & trusted avenue to deploy malware and trojans to the target and all their contacts.

    4. Re:If your personal emails are released... by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

      But what if hackers selectively release work emails which individually make the reporter appear unethical but which are not when taken in the context of other emails the reporter sent on the same subject?

    5. Re:If your personal emails are released... by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      It's hard to imagine that case but if they do I'm assuming 1) the public will notice emails are missing which undermines the credibility of the release, and 2) the hackee can release those emails themselves to prove their innocence, which would make hackers look like clowns.

    6. Re:If your personal emails are released... by PMuse · · Score: 1

      Again with the, "Why would you want privacy unless you had something to hide?" argument.

      The answer is that even legal, ethical facts can be deeply embarrassing. If you enemy learns such a secret, he can use it to wound you or to turn your neighbors against you. Imagine that you had:
      1. divorced a spouse because of their drinking problem or abusiveness
      2. had a child who became a felon
      3. been bankrupted by medical expenses / job loss

      Don't talk to me about illogical. Don't pretend that my new community will treat me with fairness or compassion, or that I can magically find people who will. In real life, people keep secrets for good reasons. Because sometimes you just need a chance to start over and be known for what I am now.

      And, don't tell me that I should submit myself to the judgment and compassion of the doxxers. It only takes one doxxer who values his cause more than justice and then the damage will be done.

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    7. Re:If your personal emails are released... by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

      -Cardinal Richelieu

    8. Re:If your personal emails are released... by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never made that argument. Privacy should be protected. What I'm saying is *if* you are a journalist, and *if* you get hacked, and *if* those emails reveal unethical journalistic behavior, don't expect any sympathy from the public. And on the contrary, if anything like you listed is revealed, we will be on your side, because we hate the weak being hit, even if you were a little bit unprofessional.

      I'm saying that because this warning appears to preemptively control damage to the reputations of journos who probably know their emails would reveal they have been unethical but they thought it was OK because they were fighting for the "just cause".

    9. Re:If your personal emails are released... by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and there's nothing unprofessional in them, the more embarrassing some personal stuff may be the more sympathy you'll get from the public and against the hackers.

      Hardly. The embarrassing personal stuff will be turned into evidence that the journalist is unprofessional - or at least undesirable. ("Scott Mediapersonality is into $kink, how can we trust him!".) The goal here, on the part of the hacker's Masters is weaponize the email - and that's terrifyingly easy.

      "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him."

      Dig into my email, and you'll find nothing unethical... But you will find a lot of otaku/anime material. A couple of quotes from those emails, put into an article with plenty of fanservice and hentai screenshots... and there's a lot of people who don't know who'll willingly believe I'm a rapist, a pervert, a pedophile. Hell, if they really wanted to, my SCA emails could be similiary spun - "here's a guy who gives fealty to a King! How can he believe in democracy!".

      Etc... etc...

      People in general won't believe the facts. They aren't even interested in the facts. All they know and think is what their Masters tell them to know and think.

    10. Re:If your personal emails are released... by x_t0ken_407 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, this is what I don't get. Why aren't ALL OF US mad at BOTH PARTIES? Instead of always pointing the finger with "see, you guys do it too and or did it first!" I'll never understand why the latter is always the case. We all get fucked in the end, do we not?

    11. Re:If your personal emails are released... by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Because our Masters have been exceedingly successful in divide-and-conquer. They convinced enough people (sheep) that electing their Angel Babies and keeping the Other Sides Hell Spawned Demons out of office is more important than anything else.

    12. Re:If your personal emails are released... by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

      "The public?" The public is only going to notice emails which support their preconceived notions and political affiliation and ignore the rest.

    13. Re:If your personal emails are released... by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      That is actually very different. The quote means when you have only six lines (written by the hand of a man so to prove its authenticity) a skilled manipulator can interpret them in so many ways as to find a way in which to hang him. The key is six lines -- less than that would be too little to work with, and *more than that would destroy the ambiguity*. With 1000s and 1000s of lines by Podesta and others there was very little doubt what they meant and did. (None of which was terribly spectacular or unexpected though, just a confirmation what everyone thought anyway.)

      That said maybe Cardinal Richelieu can be called as the character witness for these journalists...

    14. Re:If your personal emails are released... by x_t0ken_407 · · Score: 1

      It's so frustratingly infuriating to be wide tf awake in a world where people would rather stick their heads in the ground and be ruled-over. People, WAKE. THE FUCK. UP.

  5. An obvious problem ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... Gmail.

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  6. Russian boogie man hackers by NotARealUser · · Score: 1, Troll

    Wow, I wish I had Russian genetics. They seem to be able to do all the really big scary computer stuff that us non-russians are not capable of doing. I am not trying to denegrate Russians here, but the media is so incredibly naive. It is as if putting "Russian" in front of it, no matter the evidence, turns the so called hack into something mysterious, huge, and scary.

    Most of the so called hacks, are simply social engineering and phishing scams. The Podesta thing could have been done by any old graphic designer that just made a nice looking "official" password reset email. I am really quite disappointed at what passes for a hack these days. In fact, if a Russian spat on someones shoe, the headline would probably be "Russians hack shoes".

    Yes, Russia does have many brilliant developers. But they also are a historic safe haven for VPN services. Of course most attacks "originate" from such areas. Anybody with half a brain knows you don't do something nefarious online without redirecting your trail through territories that are not friendly to your home's prosecutors.

    I think the media owes it to every self respecting programmer to start narrowing the definition of "hack". Did they use a man in the middle to fraudulently update a software package? That might be a hack... Did they cause the buffer to overflow in some C program, exposing information contained in parts of the memory? Ok, that is a hack too. I can think of lots of scenarios where hacks could take place.

    But... if they simply sent an email asking someone to put in their existing password and tricked some tech-illiterate into doing something stupid, that is not a hack.

    1. Re:Russian boogie man hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Most of the so called hacks, are simply social engineering and phishing scams." - Because that's effective, and when targeted they call it spearphishing... And they use variants of known-state-sponsored malware and methods from APT groups categorized by previous attack forensics, like ones that tracked Ukrainian artillery brigades in Luhansk.

      But because YOU DO NOT APPARENTLY CARE TO READ ABOUT THIS STUFF IN DEPTH, you can sit on your bean bag chair laurels and doubt the sophistication of the attacks or the competency of the forensic investigators, sure. Comfy? Let me get you a pillow for your lazy head to rest.

      There are no "VPN services" that also offer state sponsored malware variants for use targeting people watched by the Kremlin, you fucking idiot.

      If you're literally too Left/Right politically-minded to understand there could be people around the world who want to fuck with US sovereignty, I right here and now question your Americanism and intelligence generally.

    2. Re:Russian boogie man hackers by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Wow, I wish I had Russian genetics. They seem to be able to do all the really big scary computer stuff that us non-russians are not capable of doing. I am not trying to denegrate Russians here, but the media is so incredibly naive. It is as if putting "Russian" in front of it, no matter the evidence, turns the so called hack into something mysterious, huge, and scary.

      Those wascawy Wussians, hacking Amewican ewections & weportews emaiws!

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    3. Re:Russian boogie man hackers by NotARealUser · · Score: 1

      Wow, that escalated quickly!

    4. Re:Russian boogie man hackers by mmell · · Score: 1
      As it should.

      Incidentally, I trust the NSA and the CIA when they assert that such things are in fact happening. I don't trust you, tvarish.

    5. Re:Russian boogie man hackers by mmell · · Score: 1

      So who is behind it, then. POTUS? We already know he actively hates the news media and would gladly repeal the second amendment if he thought he could pull it off. Make that, will repeal the second amendment as soon as he thinks he can pull it off.

  7. Since when by ruir · · Score: 1

    Gossip is news???? Shit article.

  8. Suspect the hackers could be Russians? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Some consumer brand of email gives users a colourful message and its a Russian warning?
    Words like "suspect"? then "have to guess that it’s the Russians"?
    If the company changes the "big bright red bar" to any another color would that feeling be altered?

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  9. Awww - did 'ums get 'ums feewings huwt? by mmell · · Score: 1
    What's wrong - afraid the Drumpf . . . er, Trump brand will be tarnished by this?

    I know - you figure Russia is too technically backwards to mount such an attack (despite being the first nation to put a satellite or a human in orbit). Or a nation steeped in the tradition of Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky could never do such things (despite their attempt to put nuclear-tipped missiles in Cuba). Or is it that our Glorious Leader has decreed that Russia's okay, so this couldn't possibly be true? Oh, wait - that's Divine leader, isn't it?

  10. who cares? by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    Some of the journalists who have received such warnings from Google as recent as two-to-three weeks ago include Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine, Julia Ioffe, who recently started at The Atlantic, Ezra Klein of Vox, and CNN's Brian Stelter.

    These people haven't had anything of substance to say for years.

  11. No sympathy here, leftists & modbombers. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    These aren't journalists, they're hardcore leftists faking yet another incident. The alleged "targets" are just too in line with their narrative.

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