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Playboy Is Featuring Naked Women Again -- After Dropping Nudity a Year Ago Due To the Internet (nypost.com)

mi quotes a report from New York Post: The 63-year-old legendary men's magazine is bringing back nude models in its upcoming issue -- one year after banning naked photos in an effort to boost circulation and attract more mainstream advertisers. That effort obviously has failed. One of the main reasons why Playboy dropped nudity in the first place was because the internet filled the demand. Ravi Somaiya reports in the New York Times, "For a generation of American men, reading Playboy was a cultural rite, an illicit thrill consumed by flashlight. Now every teenage boy has an internet-connected phone instead. Pornographic magazines, even those as storied as Playboy, have lost their shock value, their commercial value and their cultural relevance." The issues published under the no-nudes policy, which featured both scantily clad models and could-be naked women with strategic parts of their body covered up, will all change with the March/April issue now hitting newsstands. The issue trumpets the change with a cover headline: "Naked is normal."

259 comments

  1. Frist post? by dskoll · · Score: 1

    Where are all the Nerds? Oh, right. They read computer mags.

    Never mind...

    1. Re:Frist post? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      They read computer mags.

      They're called "zines", you ignoramus.

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    2. Re:Frist post? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but computer magazines are pretty much meh these days. :(

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  2. See, now things are getting better by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only in Trump's American can a naked Playboy emerge from the ashes of clothed boringness! We're going to make America undraped again!

    1. Re:See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is rather coincidental. Obama gets women to cover up, Trump gets them to unclothe.

    2. Re:See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nudes for nerds, stuff that matters ! Yes!

    3. Re:See, now things are getting better by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 2

      The Melania Issue?

    4. Re:See, now things are getting better by cayenne8 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It is rather coincidental. Obama gets women to cover up, Trump gets them to unclothe.

      Well, unlike with Obama, Trump no longer feel the need to placate muslim morals and teachings, and force women to cover up like a big sock puppet with eye holes.

      ;)

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    5. Re:See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with her brand being shunned by many major retailers across the country, ivanka might be looking for work soon.

    6. Re:See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROASTED... :)))

    7. Re: See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now pussys can be properly grabbed unencumbered from those pesky clothing articles.

    8. Re:See, now things are getting better by slashrio · · Score: 0

      Obama isn't interested in women, he married a tranny.

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    9. Re:See, now things are getting better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      force women to cover up like a big sock puppet with eye holes.

      No, Trump tends to get the men to do that instead.

    10. Re:See, now things are getting better by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      I'd moderate this funny but I've already commented on this post.

    11. Re:See, now things are getting better by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      Only in Trump's American can a naked Playboy emerge from the ashes of clothed boringness! We're going to make America undraped again!

      So does that mean I can finally buy a Playboy without the store burning down or having a pet wander 5 miles away from home?*

      WOOHOO! The curse is lifted! Brazzers here I cum!

      *Yes. These things actually happened to me. I met the woman who later burned the shop down that night intentionally. Then the other time my dog (a mini pom) wandered 5 miles away from the house and was found by a farmer we knew. Both times were right after I got a Playboy.

    12. Re:See, now things are getting better by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      that woman sounds hot.

        thermally not sexually

  3. Free by dohzer · · Score: 2

    Has anyone here ever actually paid for porn?

    1. Re:Free by quonset · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Has anyone here ever actually paid for porn?

      Companies wouldn't still be in business if people didn't.

    2. Re:Free by ckatko · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      That's like saying Wal-Mart couldn't exist if it didn't treat its employees with respect and pay them livable wages.

    3. Re:Free by buss_error · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Has anyone here ever actually paid for porn?

      I used to admin (on a retainer, they called when they needed something) the bookkeeping system for a adult store chain. in the early 90's they booked over 2 million net profit per month. In 99 when I stopped, it was less than 300K. Company was sold off and it is now owned by a company whose name you know if I said it, and appears to be making profits again. I dunna know.

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    4. Re:Free by swb · · Score: 1

      I read that one of the dirty secrets of the mainstream entertainment business was how much money they made selling pay per view porn in hotels.

      Which I guess makes sense since it just shows up as "MOVIE" on the bill, allowing people who stay in hotels to buy it (and often expense it) and watch it and no one was the wiser.

      When I used to stay at a Hyatt in Irvine, they had a single porn movies and some kind of 6 hour, all-you-could-eat extravaganza of porn. I always wondered who bought the extravaganza. Bachelor parties was the obvious choice, but IIRC this hotel was mostly business people and not a tourist or "party" spot.

    5. Re:Free by swb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I worked at a 4 location local video store chain in the early 1990s. Our location was one of the two locations that had porn titles.

      We used to run reports near close and there were some nights where we made 80% of our revenue on porn movies. 75% of that gay porn.

      At this store, the actual tapes were shelved behind the counter and an empty box with a hunk of foam inside was on the shelf. You brought the box, we put the tape in a plastic VHS carry case when you rented it.

      The porn room was a separate room in the back of the store, but the whole empty box selection routine worked the same. But the porn boxes were probably 50% larger in area than the regular titles, but people would always walk out of there and grab the FIRST title they could reach (the A section of drama) in some vain attempt to cover the box, which of course it never did. And they would do it when no one else was in the store, too -- like, umm, I have to read the title to give you the actual videotape to take home. No secrets here.

      One night I moved the tiny self-help & how-to section to where drama was supposed to start because I figured nobody rented them anyway, and if the nervous porn hounds were going to just grab random titles they might as well not decimate the As out of the drama section.

      The biggest hoots were when we people whose name you recognized -- or people you knew! -- came in for porn, especially gay porn.

    6. Re:Free by zedaroca · · Score: 1

      Twice, two issues of the Playboy magazine from the same model (Tiazinha) in 1999 and 2000. I was a teenager but I still have them for sentimental value.

    7. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playboy used to be good for a lot more than just porn. The cliche ("I only read it for the articles") used to have some justification behind it.

    8. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anime geeks and furries still pay for porn on a regular basis.
      Not exactly a direct comparison, since it's always someone's commissioned artwork that's released for free later. But it's still responsible for a few million flying around every year at least.

    9. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The biggest hoots were when we people whose name you recognized -- or people you knew! -- came in for porn, especially gay porn.

      I was only renting those for the articles.

    10. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's nothing like that. Since we're being stupid, what you said is like Santa Claus having sex with Joan of Arc.

    11. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Playboy was not just selling sex... they were selling the fantasy of the sophisticated "good life" (which included sex, of course).

      The college guys who bothered reading the articles and reviews were aiming for that MBA=BMW pie in the sky lifestyle.

      The guys on the football team were like, "I know those tits! The centerfold is one of our cheerleaders!"

    12. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Companies wouldn't still be in business if people didn't.

      That doesn't mean anyone here has.

    13. Re:Free by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      The college guys who bothered reading the articles and reviews were aiming for that MBA=BMW pie in the sky lifestyle.

      Wealthy lifestyle porn still exists. It's called "Forbes".

      Actual rich people don't read Forbes.

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    14. Re:Free by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes. Not directly for quite a few years, but even in modern times I'll tip girls on cam sites and such. Not huge amounts (probably no more than $20 per month in total), but I try to support the content I like in some way. I also subscribe to a few Twitch streamers and am a Patreon of a handful of Youtubers.

      If you don't, eventually the content goes away.

      That said, while I think they'll certainly sell more issues with nudes, the whole concept of nude vs non-nude isn't Playboy's problem. The problem is that it's a magazine. While people might still be willing to pay for content, they're not willing to pay for content in that particular format anymore.

      To a large degree I the shift the in the market is just making huge companies with a big staff just not profitable. Sure some things like a blockbuster movie is hard to do at home, but what Playboy is selling can be provided by any pretty girl with a camera in her bedroom. She can provide the product with a LOT less overhead than a huge company.

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    15. Re:Free by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Why would they? That would be like a rock star reading a teen magazine.

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    16. Re:Free by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      This just in: Having a weird fetish means there is little free porn for you.

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    17. Re: Free by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      You can probably find that on a porn site somewhere...

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    18. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's not gay to jerk off to gay porn, because your balls won't touch another man's balls.

    19. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me introduce you to pixiv, hentaifoundry, furaffinity, tumblr...

    20. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Living wage, no such thing.

      However my oldest kid of 5 is working at Walmart making a bit over 27k a year with no college and yes medical but he is covered under my health care till he is 26. He has some learning disabilities from both birth and a car crash where he almost died. He also suffers from bad sleep apnea. He did graduate from high school with some learning assistance. We currently live in the Midwest where he can make it. Walmart has taken care of him and is willing to work with his issues. He's a good kid that works hard and gives it his all. People can bitch about Wal-Mart all they want but they have shown to be willing to work with people like my kid. I don't agree with all the crap they pull but I won't fault them for taking care of their employees.

      And No I dont work for Walmart, I had to retire from a Medical Software company after my back started to finally fail from the last back surgery. I spend my days in major chronic pain and no cure.

      I suggest you cut Walmart some slack.

    21. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wanted to bring a date home and tell her, "I have a penthouse on the top floor."

      Then take her to the top floor, where I'd have a Penthouse magazine stashed in the laundry room...

    22. Re:Free by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      playboy is more of a brand than anything nowadays.

      also playboy does some non-nude variations internationally already.

      the thai version is non-nude for example.. and they got a thai tv channel thats non-nude too.

      this new "we'll have nudes but they're not going to be 100% sexual but just natural" thing sounds like a disaster though.

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    23. Re:Free by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Was. PPV porn revenue has plummeted in recent years.

      The Hilton chain dropped it entirely last year. They made a big announcement about 'values' and 'family,' the usual stuff to try to score points with a certain demographic, but the real reason was purely financial.

    24. Re:Free by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Not just to view, no, but I have paid to commission pornographic artwork.

    25. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you consider nude model photos as porn then yeah, sure (I wouldn't, but then TFA is about Playboy so...)

      I can understand why Playboy would start to feel rather insignificant in the shadow of the internet. Online, there are more photos of beautiful naked women being added every day than what I have time to look at.

      Just in the past few years I have subscribed to all of these sites: bodyinmind, domai, femjoy, onlyallsites, mpl studios, justnude, metart, nuerotica, zemani, watch4beauty, stunning18, amourangels, eroticbeauty. I've seen hundreds of models and probably a million photos.

      Cheaper than cable TV and more entertaining.

    26. Re: Free by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Living wage, no such thing.

      What? A living wage is an easily definable concept: a wage at which people workign full time with said wage can maintain a normal standard of living, that is, afford housing, food, electricity, and so on. :

      People can bitch about Wal-Mart all they want but they have shown to be willing to work with people like my kid. I don't agree with all the crap they pull but I won't fault them for taking care of their employees.

      The plural of anecdote is not evidence. I'm glad your son has gotten employed, but keep in mind that wallmart's abuses towards their workforce are such that they even have their own wiki article'

      In 2008, Walmart agreed to pay at least $352 million to settle lawsuits claiming that it forced employees to work off the clock. "Several lawyers described it as the largest settlement ever for lawsuits over wage violations."[ - - Because Walmart employs part-time and relatively low paid workers, some workers may partially qualify for state welfare programs.[52] This has led critics to claim that Walmart increases the burden on taxpayer-funded services.[53][54] A 2002 survey by the state of Georgia's subsidized healthcare system, PeachCare, found that Walmart was the largest private employer of parents of children enrolled in its program; one quarter of the employees of Georgia Walmarts qualified to enroll their children in the federal subsidized healthcare system Medicaid.[55] A 2004 study at the University of California, Berkeley charges that Walmart's low wages and benefits are insufficient, and although decreasing the burden on the social safety net to some extent, California taxpayers still pay $86 million a year to Walmart employees.

      As this article well puts it:

      Wal-Mart Stores raised its minimum wage to $9 in 2015 and to $10 in 2016, after years of protests by workers. While important steps in the right direction, these increases are not enough. An employee working 34 hours per week (which Wal-Mart considers full time) at $10 per hour still earns less than $18,000 per year and cannot meet her family's basic needs on Wal-Mart's wages alone, even in states with low costs of living, according to a recent study.

      Why does it matter? Wal-Mart is the country's largest private employer, with 1.5 million employees in the United States alone. And it's a hugely profitable one: it generated $482 billion in revenue in fiscal year 2016. The company simply cannot justify its meager pay practices."

      Etc. So they're paying a below livable wage and then making their employees use benefits to try and survive. They're essentially subsidizing a large part of their labor costs with tax-money because what they're paying people is not enough to live on in many areas.

      I totally disagree that this is 'taking care' of their employees. It's blatant abuse, of both the employees themselves as well as tax-payer money that has to be spent on their employees on account of them not paying a livable wage or offering proper health care.

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    27. Re:Free by Noble713 · · Score: 1

      I think as a high school senior I bought 2-3 porn VHS tapes:
      One was of Aria Giovanni, one of Akira Fubuki, and one hentai tentacle porn vid "Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend".
      Then as a college freshman I bought the French "movie" full of unsimulated sex, "Baise Moi", which was basically a graphic version of Thelma & Louise, but with porn actresses in the lead roles.

      On a few occasions I've bought Japanese porn mags in the convenience stores if a particular model catches my eye, and they often contain free DVDs which are usually pretty shitty.

      Bottom line: probably less than $150 total spent over 15+ years for me. I think the industry is kept afloat purely from people with niche fetishes or those who develop an obsessive interest in particular porn whores.

    28. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked a blockbuster so there was no gay or even "adult" section, but there was the "romance" section that had all the skin-a-max and a very select few 70's classic adult films like debbie does dallas, but those would have a black piece of card board on top. I think what was in stock depended on the manager and what the customers ordered.

      Always interesting to see the different types of people that would rent something like debbie does dallas....I remember there was an old 60 year old dude that rented nothing but our limited adult movies every 3 days...we were like, "just mail order a whole set man?".

    29. Re:Free by dbIII · · Score: 1

      "Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend"

      That's not porn, it's no more porn than "3x3 Eyes", all those Masamune Shirow books and ... damn I see your point - so many tentacles.

    30. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. In jr. high. Somebody got a magazine from somewhere, cut out the good parts and sold them. It was probably stolen from somebody's father's stash, or shoplifted. I think that's literally the only time I've ever paid for porn.

    31. Re:Free by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Some people must do, I guess they subsidise the rest of us.

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    32. Re: Free by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      You can probably find that on a porn site somewhere...

      Rule #69

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    33. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With all due respect, great you found and posted the definition of a living wage.

      I don't know how old you are but I turn 49 in a few days. At no time in my IT career have I ever seen a living wage. I did receive a nice boost in salary when the one company I worked for was bought out and they gave me a nice boost in pay to match what other employees were making at a similar position. My wife is a teacher with 21 years experience including receiving teacher of the year for her brilliant work with inner city kids. She also has yet to receive a living wage. It's a concept that simply doesn't exist. I watched my father work for a large international company and he went 4 years once with basically 1% increase each year. He retired from that company after 30 years of service. He held a pretty important position and loved his job but never once did he receive anything close to a living wage.

      Maybe at some union shops you get a living wage. But you turn around and have to pay union dues which removes any benefit of a so called living wage. And those dues always seem to go up each year.

    34. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to work on your analogy skills if you want to stop looking like an idiot.

    35. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've never seen a living wage, you say.

      Are you restricting that to your typical low-paying jobs like retail, or are you including jobs in the tech industry as well? Because if you've never seen a living wage in tech... that's strictly on you.

    36. Re: Free by Drethon · · Score: 1

      And yet Walmart doesn't seem to have a problem finding employees.

    37. Re:Free by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Has anyone here ever actually paid for porn?

      Companies wouldn't still be in business if people didn't.

      Sure they would, they give away the movies and make their profit from live shows and merchandising, right?

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    38. Re: Free by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You could probably make a good country and western song out of that post, but you forgot how your wife left you for another man on harvest day.

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    39. Re:Free by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The problem is that it's a magazine. While people might still be willing to pay for content, they're not willing to pay for content in that particular format anymore.

      Personally, I always found magazines much more comfortable than tablets or laptops for, er, reading.

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    40. Re: Free by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      Huh? Where the heck do you live?

      Living wages most certainly exist. I make one. I have ever since I graduated university. And it's not at a union shop.

      In my fair town the poverty activists have calculated the living wage as just under $20/hr. There are tons of jobs that pay that much. Though to be fair, there are also tons that don't.

    41. Re: Free by LoyalOpposition · · Score: 2

      I totally disagree that this is 'taking care' of their employees. It's blatant abuse, of both the employees themselves as well as tax-payer money that has to be spent on their employees on account of them not paying a livable wage or offering proper health care.

      And yet, with all the other options available to them, people choose to work for Walmart. Why do you suppose that is? I think it must be because Walmart is the best place to work for compared to those others. Either those other places pay less wages, or offer fewer benefits, or have worse working conditions, or do something else that the employees find objectionable. And since it's not apparent what that something is from the articles you posted, I have to think that they aren't providing a fair account of Walmart's practices. It's like someone has an anti-Walmart agenda. I wonder who gains when people get angry at Walmart? Competitors? Politicians? Social leaders? Something to ponder.

      ~Loyal

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    42. Re:Free by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      but the real reason was purely financial.

      Probably happened around the same time the unwashed masses started demanding free wifi. I never thought of it that way, but I can only assume that's why hotels resisted offering wifi for the longest time.

    43. Re: Free by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Don't try to out-weird me or I retaliate with things you wish you could unsee.

      My job is in IT security, and for the longest time this was in criminal forensics. I have seen things mortal men fear to think of.

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    44. Re:Free by operagost · · Score: 2

      That's like someone injecting a leftist rant on Wal-Mart into a discussion on something totally different.

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    45. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, neither do I because they've got ad block detectors, and frankly, whatever they've got to say isn't worth my time to fiddle with the settings to have them let me in.

    46. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does a subscription to Bait magazine count?

    47. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there were some nights where we made 80% of our revenue on porn movies. 75% of that gay porn.

      I had a coworker who worked for porn sites on the side. He said they made all their money on niche porn. The weirder it was, the less customers, but those few would pay a LOT more for it.

      He also said he never got to meet any of the talent. That part was all outsourced.

    48. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feels good to judge people doesn't it?

      The part you missed out is all those nights you took a gay porn video home at the end of your shift.

    49. Re: Free by Kiuas · · Score: 2

      And yet, with all the other options available to them, people choose to work for Walmart. Why do you suppose that is?

      Because getting some money is better than getting no money. It's not like the poeple who end up working in a wal-mart have a wide choice of places to work in. You seem to assume people without education can simply pick where they work. If there were masses of jobs with a higher pay than wall-mart's available, obviously people would rather work somewhere else.

      Secondly, this is not the case for all wall-marts everywhere obviously, so there are (to my knowledge) states in which the pay is higher and hence it's a better place to work.

      The alternative to working is being poor. The fact that people still opt to work for sub-optimal/sub-livable wages is not proof that those wages are livable, it's proof that a sub-livable wage is superior to no wage at all. Doesn't make it an ethical business practice.

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    50. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Want a livable wage .... get a real job dumb ass.

        Wal-Mart isn't a career it's ether a starter job or a place to go to die.

    51. Re: Free by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      With all due respect, great you found and posted the definition of a living wage.

      I don't know how old you are but I turn 49 in a few days. At no time in my IT career have I ever seen a living wage. I did receive a nice boost in salary when the one company I worked for was bought out and they gave me a nice boost in pay to match what other employees were making at a similar position. My wife is a teacher with 21 years experience including receiving teacher of the year for her brilliant work with inner city kids. She also has yet to receive a living wage. It's a concept that simply doesn't exist. I watched my father work for a large international company and he went 4 years once with basically 1% increase each year. He retired from that company after 30 years of service. He held a pretty important position and loved his job but never once did he receive anything close to a living wage.

      Maybe at some union shops you get a living wage. But you turn around and have to pay union dues which removes any benefit of a so called living wage. And those dues always seem to go up each year.

      If at 49 and in IT you haven't seen a living wage, you have been fucking up big time.

      I'm 47, in Software and IT, where salaries are way above the median, in an industry where a 6-figure salary for a senior position is the norm.

      An IT salary not being a living salary? There something fubar with personal finances me thinks.

    52. Re: Free by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      And yet Walmart doesn't seem to have a problem finding employees.

      That's a sign of necessity, not because that shit is awesome. BTW, I do not buy that a minimum wage is/should be a living wage. The solution is not to make a minimum wage a living wage, but to create routes for people to progress economically.

      And that's what the problem is. There used to be a time, not that long actually, where people could reasonably climb up out of minimum wages. Why? Because there was a variety of jobs.

      Things have changed. Whole classes of jobs do not exist anymore; this country hasn't cultivated its human capital; companies no longer offer full-time jobs with benefits; etc.

      So the result is that people are stuck with minimum part-time jobs without benefits. At least in big cities, people get the opportunity to work multiple part-time jobs to makes ends meet (a hard proposition, but better than nothing.)

      In many parts of Rural America, OTH, that option doesn't even exist (and will not be fixed by simply increasing the minimum.)

    53. Re:Free by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      Well, if you consider nude model photos as porn then yeah, sure (I wouldn't, but then TFA is about Playboy so...)

      If it's nude models posing for art painting or sculpting I wouldn't. For a magazine or publication that everyone knows people will buy to fap with, yeah, porn.

    54. Re:Free by haruchai · · Score: 2

      "We used to run reports near close and there were some nights where we made 80% of our revenue on porn movies. 75% of that gay porn"
      In the 80s, I worked at a magazine chain that also rented movies. Several locations would rent adult films but the revenue champ was the main location downtown that included gay porn. All employees with less than 5 yrs seniority were required to rotate among several locations; the worst part of working downtown was when a customer wanted a refund because of problems with the recording - we weren't allowed to issue a refund without verifying the customer's claims.
      I swear some would complain, pardon the pun, just to fuck with us.

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    55. Re: Free by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Thanks for highlighting that there is still some nuance in the world. Reading slashdot makes ya forget that.

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    56. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would think Rule 34 would apply.

    57. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to assume people without education can simply pick where they work.

      You seem to assume people without education are not responsible for being without education. They didn't labor to stay in school, they are getting the fruits of their labor. A living wage outside the free market is a handout. Why should I pay more at Walmart just those those assholes who called me nerd and wanted to have babies with drug dealers now have to scramble for their jobs? Everyone gets a free high school education here. Everyone without an education CHOSE to not have one. Oooh, it was tough for them? Life is tough in different ways for everybody. Please don't have much sympathy for people struggling with the problems they created for themselves.

    58. Re:Free by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1

      I had a friend who used to pay for it. He had a specific fetish and was very lazy, so he said he prefers to have a monthly fee rather than to spend time searching for it.

    59. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your town's "living wage" is $20/hour? Where the heck do you live, that the cost of living is that high?

    60. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Depends on the hotel. The budget chains actually started offering free WiFi long before the upscale places did, and quite a few of the so-called "business-class" hotels still charge you for it. The reason is pretty much "because we can" -- they know that the majority of their usual clientele will just expense the whole hotel bill anyway, so they don't care if the non-free WiFi adds another line item to the bill, whereas the budget chains know their customers won't pay extra for it.

    61. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wal-mart actually has an internal propaganda program intended to convince their employees that it's a great place to work. Many shitty employers do this. It breaks my heart just like 1% every time I see some guy in my life who works hard and loved his employer, still working his shit job that he told me was not so bad a decade prior.

      Maybe you've never had to work a shit job or maybe you're fucking stupid so you never noticed this, the country would do well if you chopped off your fingers so we never had to see your shit on slashdot ever again.

    62. Re:Free by swb · · Score: 1

      The porn didn't bother me at all. My roommate at the time was gay and he and my other roommate, a straight woman, worked at the same restaurant. We all worked Saturday nights until about 11, and he would often call me at work "bring home some porn -- both kinds".

      So I would bring home 4 porno tapes, two gay and two straight, and my roommates and 2-3 of their fellow wait staff would be back at the apartment and we would all sit down and go through all 4 porn movies, with a healthy amount of fast forwarding and commentary. It was a pretty funny scene, a mix of gay and straight, women and men, all watching both gay and straight porn, drinking and hooting and laughing at the movies.

      I will say that the gay porn was the most inventive -- I remember pretty well one of the titles was a quite extensively costumed little film set in a Nazi-themed youth camp. The most hilarious straight porn was -- wait for it -- "Walking Small", of course featuring a midget as the male star, but borrowing from "Walking Tall" as its backstory.

    63. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Posting AC because I don't necessarily need this associated with my account, but the internet is a world full of everything for anyone.

      There is a lot of strange and special content out there which would not survive on its own accord. If all you want is some girl getting screwed then by all means youporn.com will have you covered. But if your thing is girls being completely enclosed in latex and having sex then your choices are more limited. If you go even more specific to full coverage suits with asian girls then you're down to one or two content producers.

      Paying them to keep going for your enjoyment is nothing bad, and frankly if someone provides something that gets you off, why wouldn't you reward them.

    64. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn not to blow your salary on bullshit and you will find you can live well on not a lot of money. Hell, you don't even have to work for 40+ years either. In fact, if you are in IT and still working by 40, you are doing it wrong.

    65. Re: Free by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

      This is not the only way Walmart connives to sponge off the tax payer. They skimp on store security, treating the local police as their security force.

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    66. Re:Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They need to bring in micro payments. Two minutes tops - and then another dime.

    67. Re: Free by crunchygranola · · Score: 1

      Don't try to out-weird me or I retaliate with things you wish you could unsee.

      With My Own Eyes

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    68. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, he just lives in flyover country, where the average IT worker makes 1/4 to 1/3 the going rate. In the metropolitan areas, you might make 1/2 to 1/3 the going rate. I'm factoring in mandatory overtime and time spent making someone else's electronic trash work. Skilled trades, factory line workers and railway personnel typically work less and make more. Unless you work for the state governments - then you'll make 2/3 to 1/2 the going rate, so long as you don't work at a school or university. There's plenty of scabs ... err suckers .. that work for a pittance for experience.
      Personally, I've known lots of people that move there, thinking that the cost of living will enable them to live like a king. They do for a time ... until that saved money runs out. Then they are stuck there, because they cannot afford to move back to the coast.

    69. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...assholes who called me nerd and wanted to have babies with drug dealers...

      Somebody didn't get laid in high school.

      And probably still doesn't with this kind of attitude, no decent woman would anyhow.

    70. Re:Free by haruchai · · Score: 1

      The most hilarious straight porn was -- wait for it -- "Walking Small", of course featuring a midget as the male star, but borrowing from "Walking Tall" as its backstory.

      Sounds like a role Peter Dinklage was born to play, right down to his surname.

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    71. Re: Free by nasch · · Score: 1

      I don't know how old you are but I turn 49 in a few days. At no time in my IT career have I ever seen a living wage.

      So have you been on welfare this whole time, or how are you still alive?

    72. Re:Free by swb · · Score: 1

      My memory is that the dwarf they found for the role wasn't especially well-suited for the role. Whatever genetic mix contributed to his dwarfism was universal, and he had a really small penis with a poor quality erection.

      As theater, it was hilarious. As porn, it was pathetic.

    73. Re: Free by Kiuas · · Score: 1

      You seem to assume people without education are not responsible for being without education.

      No I'm not. However, even if all people had a university level education, someone would still have to do all the low-skill jobs. There need for lower skill jobs is still there, and it makes no sense that those jobs are now partially performed at a wage-level which is not livable. In a sensible society anybody working full time should make enough money to not have to rely on external aid.

      Why should I pay more at Walmart just those those assholes who called me nerd and wanted to have babies with drug dealers now have to scramble for their jobs?

      Because you're already paying for it but currently do not seem to realize it. What you 'save'* in slightly cheaper prices Walmart gets by paying sub-livable wages you lose in increased tax-costs caused by their workforce having to rely on government aid to get by. You're not saving any money, you're only helping Walmart take advantage of the public safety net to increase their profits. The people need a certain minimum amount of money to get by their everyday costs of living, and if they cannot get it from their job, the rest will be covered by society.

      Everyone gets a free high school education here. Everyone without an education CHOSE to not have one.

      If you think you can get a well paid job on a HS diploma only, you're totally clueless as to the job requirements of this day an age. University degrees are required for nearly every better paid position. The best you can get with a HS background is jobs like fast food and retail.

      Your entire argument makes zero sense, because walmart & co paying sub-living wages is not benefiting you, or the economy as a whole, at all. In fact it's doing the exact opposite, and yet here you are defending it because you do not seem to understand the bigger picture involved at all.

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    74. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can work in IT for 20 years and save enough to last another 40+ years without working, you have a really shitty life.

    75. Re: Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I highly recommend reading the linked site, Mr. Money Mustache. Much of it is about finding ways to live the good life by eliminating wasteful expenses. As he puts it in this blog post:

      "Your current middle-class life is an Exploding Volcano of Wastefulness, and by learning to see the truth in this statement, you will easily be able to cut your expenses in half – leaving you saving half of your income."

  4. One thing still wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too much fake-up, bring back the natural beauty.

    1. Re:One thing still wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too much fake-up, bring back the natural beauty.

      Seriously, I have seen enough actual woman naked to say in real life there is no airbrush. And just wait till after a kid or two if you want to see a 'real woman's body...

    2. Re:One thing still wrong... by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And just wait till after a kid or two if you want to see a 'real woman's body...

      Err...who wants to see that?!?!

      LOL, but seriously, guys are visual beings, they want to see and react to beautiful women which in general is not the majority of the female population.

      Hell, its getting worse and worse today, as that it is getting to where a majority of modern females not only are overweight and obese, but we are NOW actually telling everyone "this is ok"...and they're believing it.

      It is NOT ok to be obese, and not for the sake of aesthetics, BUT for health concerns.

      The looking hot part is just gravy that goes along with being fit and not fat.

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    3. Re:One thing still wrong... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Yes, but who wants to see that?

      I get the impression, most guys want a young ass with huge tits. Any woman around that doesn't hurt, but doesn't add much to the experience either.

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    4. Re:One thing still wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think ‘looking hot’ is in large part looking fit, fertile and unlikely to keel over within thirty years.

    5. Re:One thing still wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'a real womans' body? Sounds like someone's jealous he can't get the hot 22yo anymore and is trying to justify it.

    6. Re:One thing still wrong... by Prien715 · · Score: 1

      Hell, its getting worse and worse today, as that it is getting to where a majority of modern females not only are overweight and obese, but we are NOW actually telling everyone "this is ok"

      In West Africa and much of the Pacific Islands, men have a preference for obese women. In fact, the oldest beauty standard statue we have is a fairly obese woman.

      Personally, I'm attracted more to less obese women, but I don't pretend that it's some product of millions of years of evolution so I can feel superior about it.

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    7. Re:One thing still wrong... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'm attracted more to less obese women, but I don't pretend that it's some product of millions of years of evolution so I can feel superior about it.

      Hey, good for you....someone has to like the chubby ones, but not for me....

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    8. Re:One thing still wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      STAP RAPING MEEEEE!!!!

  5. A bit late for that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, the whole 'is that a woman or a man with surgery?' isn't likely to go over well with most. That's why there's fetish sites for transgendered folks....

  6. Glad they made amends by hambone142 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was young, my uncle left a Playboy Magazine at our house. I saw it and my mother said "go ahead and look at it, the people in them are all the same".

    No, they weren't. Even today, I have never seen a woman that is "the same".

    When a kid/teenager can't get the real thing, good ol' Playboy did the job. It opened the wonder of women and all of their "parts" that I had never seen before. It was good old home entertainment. I wore out some pages on my favorite issues (no, they didn't get stuck together but they came close.... oops, pardon the pun).

    When I read that Playboy eliminated the nudes, I couldn't believe it.

    I'm glad they went back to their roots.

    1. Re: Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a subscriber?

    2. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Slashdot troll plays sports, gets pussy, tonight on Shit That Never Happened!

    3. Re:Glad they made amends by ToTheStars · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah? Well, when you were partying, I studied The Blade. When you were having premarital sex, I mastered The Blockchain. While you wasted your days at the gym in pursuit of vanity, I cultivated Inner Strength. And now that the world is on fire and the barbarians are at the gate, you have the audacity to come to me for help?

    4. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I saw it and my mother said "go ahead and look at it, the people in them are all the same".

      No, they weren't. Even today, I have never seen a woman that is "the same".

      Then you can't see what your mother could see. Its too bad you grew up and still haven't figured out what she was talking about.

      Yes, every person is unique. But the women who both apply to playboy and pass the editorial standards all have a lot more in common than they do differences.

    5. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Sounds like you still haven't been laid... :)

    6. Re:Glad they made amends by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anonymous Slashdot troll plays sports, gets pussy, tonight on Shit That Never Happened!

      Just because you weigh the size of a small calf, and smell of bitter cheese. Doesn't mean some of us, even with crippling injuries don't get out and play hockey a couple of times a week.

      Jabbing aside, the main reason why playboy dumped nudes was because they put a new "feminist editor" in who knew exactly what was needed for the magazine. And people stopped buying. GQ another men's magazine has for the last couple of years been pulling a "it's all white mens faults" bullshit after they put the same type of asshole in place, needless to say they're not doing very good. It's not limited to print, sites like Esquire are doing the same. And again, suffering for it. People don't like identity politics, and they even less like it when said identity politics tells one particular group of people they're responsible for *all* of the worlds ills and they're all rapists.

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    7. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad they went back to their roots.

      Playboy went partially back to their roots.
      While females nudes will make a comeback, no more full frontal nudity and that is the real shame.

    8. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean they aren't the same? They are all Playboy Bunnies. You couldn't find a more homogeneous bunch of women, and that's kind of the point of the publication.

    9. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I saw it and my mother said "go ahead and look at it, the people in them are all the same".

      She did have a point, though. Too much brush up on the images, static sets in set some cases, limited set of hair styles and make-up and too controlled lighting without using enough "natural light" make the imperfections go away with individuality, both for the photography and the models.
        Also, as a man I do grave for curves presented in the sexual and approachable way, as if I was invited and accepted to approach, touch and smell the perfection. Statues are nice to look but do leave me cold, so do models whose expressions make me think I'm raping them with my eyes.

    10. Re:Glad they made amends by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you watched too many lone action hero movies. How's this for a phrase that sounds closer to reality?

      If someone comes at me with a blade I will counter with my club.
      My club has fifty people in it.


      When the barbarians are at the gate teamwork is the way to do it, and you can either join in or not.

    11. Re:Glad they made amends by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The problem they had was an increasing need for novelty when simple nudity (and much more) was widely available online for free without the need to make an embarrassing purchase. They would get celebrities to pose every month, getting as desperate as featuring Marge Simpson.

      Even that was not very effective because of course the images were instantly scanned and put online for free anyway.

      Basically, you can't make much money out of printing soft porn these days. Playboy was always more than that though, it had proper articles and the quality of the photos was a cut above. They tried to go a bit more mainstream but it didn't really work, so they have trying to make their niche work again.

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    12. Re:Glad they made amends by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Well, I can't say I was ever a fan of Playboy, but surely the nude photos were the only interest it had? I think there is a lot to be said for good quality (and perhaps even artistic) erotic photography, and if I remember correctly, Playboy actually tried to achieve that. But I think what let them down was their lack of real taste - there was too much in the way of glitter, fur and high heels, back when I had the opportunity to look at them (I could never be bothered to actually buy it). I'm far more interested in the natural look than in the rather stilted still-lifes I seem to recall.

    13. Re:Glad they made amends by swb · · Score: 2

      My brother in law had some kind of anniversary coffee table book about Playboy with selections of POTM throughout the years.

      Up until about the mid-late 1970s, there women and settings seemed a lot more normal and naturalistic. A fair amount of natural light, outdoors kind of photos. I'm sure the photos were airbrushed to hell and back, but it didn't come off all soft-focus, velvet and lace, and the women themselves seemed to be fairly real.

      By the late 70s and 80s, the settings changed and it seemed like more indoors photos and more emphasis on velvet, lace and stereotypical lingerie. And the photography began to enter some kind of unreal, soft focus heavily airbrushed look, and the women featured were much more on the extreme side of big breasted.

      It stopped being young and playful and became kind of middle-aged fantasyland. And of course by then Playboy was having to compete with the more explicit Penthouse and the really explicit Hustler. By the time Internet porn came around, Playboy was too tame. I always wondered what would have happened if Playboy began showing spread legs when Penthouse began gaining traction.

    14. Re:Glad they made amends by naubol · · Score: 2

      Ahh the old every woman who exposes herself is a whore argument. Mixed with, "pornography should be about appreciating inner beauty." If people want to objectify women in porn while fapping, let them. As objects of lust, no two women are the same. As interview subjects, no two women in pornography are the same either.

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    15. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the late 70s and 80s, the settings changed and it seemed like more indoors photos and more emphasis on velvet, lace and stereotypical lingerie. And the photography began to enter some kind of unreal, soft focus heavily airbrushed look, and the women featured were much more on the extreme side of big breasted

      Ahhh... I miss the 80s. Big hair and bigger tits. It was a glorious time.

    16. Re:Glad they made amends by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Doesn't mean some of us, even with crippling injuries don't get out and play hockey a couple of times a week.

      I think you probably need to check out a decent dictionary for the definition of "crippling". It will include something along the lines of "definitely unable to play hockey".

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    17. Re:Glad they made amends by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I can't say I was ever a fan of Playboy, but surely the nude photos were the only interest it had?

      They do/did publish work by proper writers, like Ray Bradbury and Vladimir Nabokov.

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    18. Re:Glad they made amends by operagost · · Score: 1

      In the USA, Maxim never had nudes, but it was fun and hilarious. Now, it's mostly boring. The articles read like National Geographic for rich millennials-- and mind you, I've enjoyed reading National Geographic since I was a kid. The guy who bought them thought the world needed another Details, when it didn't even buy the original Details.

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    19. Re:Glad they made amends by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ah, of course it was somehow a feminists fault...

      Actually it's just part of the general decline of magazines and of adult magazines in particular. There is an infinite supply of free smut on the internet, and sales of non-pornographic "lads mags" full of bikini clad women are falling too as we reach a kind of saturation, Most of them turned to novelty a while back, featuring celebrity exclusives as a way to provide something that the internet can't, but of course the images were circulated instantly.

      Playboy might be able to survive by evolving into something that people really want to read. Seems like nudity is a part of that, even if it limits the audience somewhat (can't really read it on that long flight).

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    20. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enjoy living for women's whims then.. I guess someone has to be the plough horse.

    21. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh.

    22. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like your glory days are over :)

    23. Re:Glad they made amends by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The Playboy Playmates have changed over the years. The first year was professional models. From then on through the early 1970s, the aim was "the girl next door, only better". Gradually aspiring models saw Playboy as a stepping stone, and the look changed to surgically altered, aloof, heavily made up mannikins.I don't know what they've been doing recently because I haven't look since about 1998.

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    24. Re:Glad they made amends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, of course it was somehow a feminists fault...

      I realize who I'm talking to as I've read many of your insipid comments over the years but let's get this straight. The magazine was doing well, they hired an editor who has expressed feminist views who then proceeded to drop nude photos and the magazine tanked. Yes, it was that particular feminist's fault and it was her feminist ideals that are to blame.

      You aren't always wrong but when you are it's usually pretty obvious you've let your ideological leanings lead you astray.

    25. Re:Glad they made amends by ToTheStars · · Score: 1

      To clarify, I was quoting a memetic image macro (seen here, original source unknown to me: https://imgur.com/gallery/CyFy...) featuring a skinny fellow with a sword who is saying "I studied The Blade" et al. You probably are correct in your assessment that he did watch too many action movies.

  7. Future of Internet Porn by TheOuterLinux · · Score: 2

    Maybe Playboy is just preparing for the Trumpocalypse. When we all are running oil lamps, not questioning where the precious resource actually came from (humans), and staring at nude Playboy posters that have become illegal (hypocritical) because God only talks to Republican US presidents and the Pope, we will be glad for when your flame flickers, it is as if she seductively dances only for you. The humming of the night drones and screams of those that missed curfew canceling out the spank noise. The audio portion comes from 30 second ham radio broadcasts to make tracing difficult.

    1. Re:Future of Internet Porn by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      man are you clueless on Trump's views about Playboy. Trump was even interviewed in Playboy in the 90s and also appeared in a couple of their videos.

    2. Re:Future of Internet Porn by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Trump was even interviewed in Playboy in the 90s and also appeared in a couple of their videos.

      Yeah, of course, have you seen the women he imports? On the other hand, after Trump gets impeached and Pence becomes president, everything liberal had better watch the fuck out.

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    3. Re:Future of Internet Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you know what hypocritical means? Because I think it wooshed over your head.

      The moral hypocrisy started before he was even on office, did you somehow miss Trump attacking Weiner for being a "pervert"?.

    4. Re:Future of Internet Porn by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Trump doesn't really have a lot of views on social issues. He has positions of convenience. He has already signed a pledge to fight against the evils of pornography, not because he personally believes in that cause, but because that is the expected thing for a Republican to do and he needs the party behind him. His position on abortion is exactly the same: Once he joined the Republicans, he suddenly decided to switch sides on that too.

      On economics, and on border security, he appears to have some strong views that he will fight for. But on more social issues, his lack of strong views grants him a lot more flexibility.

    5. Re:Future of Internet Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      admittedly, I'm not american -- but to me that is the real play out of this for the republicans. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Trump isn't being 'handled' or 'tamed' on his rants / twitter /etc on purpose.

    6. Re:Future of Internet Porn by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      And THIS is exactly why Trump won't be impeached.

      For Trump, Pence is better than any insurance policy.

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    7. Re:Future of Internet Porn by dskoll · · Score: 1

      Completely true, and Trump is saving tons of taxpayer money by not needing Secret Service protection. Nobody would think to take out Trump because Pence is waiting in the wings...

    8. Re:Future of Internet Porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Historically, it was the far left wing countries that had were badly lit, like east vs west germany.

    9. Re:Future of Internet Porn by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      weiner was sending naked pictures of himself with his boy next to him to underage girls

      you think that's ok? maybe you are a pervert.

      what's perverted about adult nude women? nothing, that's what. stupid troll.

    10. Re:Future of Internet Porn by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      the thing he signed was against child pornography and sex trafficking. You have evidence he is for for child pornography and sex trafficking, or are you just aping the latest twitter SJW spew?

    11. Re:Future of Internet Porn by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Not quite. It was the "The Children's Internet Safety Presidential Pledge" produced by anti-pornography pressure group Enough is Enough. It starts out talking about sexual exploitation, child pornography, etc - all the things everyone can agree to fight against. But it goes on to broaden this out to include all pornography, no exceptions. This is because Enough is Enough believes that all pornography is dangerous and abusive by nature.

      Here's the full text: The Children's Internet Safety Presidential Pledge

      And the extract: "If elected President of the United State of America, I promise to: ... Uphold the rule of law by aggressively enforce existing federal laws to prevent the sexual exploitation of children online, including the federal obscenity laws ... by appointing an Attorney General who will make the prosecution of such laws a top priority in my administration.

    12. Re:Future of Internet Porn by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      You didn't link full pledge but here it is, sorry but it's clear it's just talking about "bad porn" and terrible human actions that support it. not a plan to ban all porn, that's between your ears

      - PLEDGE -
      If elected President of the United State of America, I promise to:

      Uphold the rule of law by aggressively enforce existing federal laws to prevent the sexual exploitation of children online, including the federal obscenity laws, child pornography laws, sexual predation laws and the sex trafficking laws by:
      appointing an Attorney General who will make the prosecution of such laws a top priority in my administration and,
      Providing the intelligence community and law enforcement with the resources and tools needed to investigate and prosecute Internet crimes involving the sexual exploitation of children.
      Aggressively enforce the Children’s Internet Protection Act (CIPA) requiring schools and public libraries using government eRate monies to filter child pornography and pornography by requiring effective oversight by the Federal Communications Commission;
      Protect and defend the innocence of America’s children by advancing public policies that prevent the sexual exploitation of children in a manner that is consistent with the government’s compelling interest in protecting its most vulnerable citizens, within the limits set forth by the First Amendment.
      Give serious consideration to appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture and the prevention of the sexual exploitation of children in the digital age.
      Establish public-private partnerships with Corporate America to step up voluntary efforts to reduce the threat of the Internet-enabled sexual exploitation of children by the implementation of updated corporate policies and viable technology tools and solutions.

    13. Re:Future of Internet Porn by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I actually did link the full text, but something in the post got mangled - not sure if it was me or Slashdot, but the link turned into plain text.

      The key phrase in here is "including the federal obscenity laws." America actually has a federal law prohibiting-ish* all 'obscene' material on the internet, it's just that this law is seldom enforced because any effort to do so would be futile. It's a recurring complaint of the group Enough is Enough that this and some other laws are not enforced. The pledge is a masterpiece of political misdirection: It goes on a great length about child pornography, trafficking and abuse, but tucked away in the middle of it is a call to start cracking down on plain adult pornography as well. Of course no-one will publicly refuse to take a pledge which is almost entirely concerned with protecting children.

      *Due to a rather complex tangle of laws and precedents, and laws specifically written to work around court rulings, it's not clear exactly what is prohibited. The Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act. It doesn't ban pornography directly - that would be unconstitutional - but instead imposes upon producers and distributors record-keeping requirements which are quite clearly intentionally impossible to comply with. If you want to host a porn site, you'd better have on file the name, address and verified identity of everyone who appears, including all those amateur video uploads, so you can prove they are all over eighteen.

    14. Re:Future of Internet Porn by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      that's not impossible to comply with and the major porn companies had been doing it for years, since 1988 if I recall correctly. 2007, the 6th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled it was against free speech. There is a en blanc review of that ruling that has never been scheduled.

    15. Re:Future of Internet Porn by TheOuterLinux · · Score: 1

      It was written as a joke and not to be taken seriously. If people cared enough about politics as everyone here did enough about porn to even see this comment, hell, let alone care enough to reply, the world might be a better place.

  8. Re:Playboy Still Dead by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    eh?, I can assure you the playmates featured came in all colors and flavors, not just blonde and tanned

  9. New Coke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a mistake/scam

  10. larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    make america raunchy again

    1. Re:larry flynt for president by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Funny

      better than Obama, where Playmates got hope and a change of clothes

    2. Re:larry flynt for president by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Next thing you know, they'll try to come out with a Playboy for Married Men.....

      Every month.....same chick....

      ;)

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    3. Re:larry flynt for president by Evtim · · Score: 2

      Eh, are you crazy? wife = chick? That must be some new use of the word chick I was previously unaware of.

    4. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, mate...
      Make America Gyrate Again.

    5. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, they all start as a chick and become a harpy.

    6. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be completely alright, depending on the woman, and what costumes she is wearing... nurse... dominatrix... french maid.... slave Leia... police officer... but sadly she'd probably be: unresponsive, bad at her job, and just let anything through aka: slashdot editor....

    7. Re:larry flynt for president by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 1

      No, chick is slang to refer to a girl or woman, not specifically a wife.

    8. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chick is slang to refer to an _attractive_ girl or woman

    9. Re:larry flynt for president by silentcoder · · Score: 2

      Chick is derived from the Spanish "Chiquita" meaning "young girl".

      Nothing about looks in there.

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    10. Re:larry flynt for president by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Eh, are you crazy? wife = chick? That must be some new use of the word chick I was previously unaware of.

      I don't recall my "honey" having anything to do with beekeeping, nor does my "baby" resemble her infant state in any way, so how about we lay off the attacks on wife slang already. You're making a grammar Nazi look tame by comparison.

    11. Re:larry flynt for president by ChrisMaple · · Score: 2

      Wrong. "Chick" derives from US informal "chicken", meaning a young, inexperienced person, as in "she's no spring chicken."

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    12. Re:larry flynt for president by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Right. Because when a word gets borrowed into another language it like totally retains all the connotations and nuances of the original.

      --
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    13. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nope, it comes from, well, let's plagiarize:
      From Middle English, from Old English icen, cycen ("chicken"), diminutive of coc, cocc ("cock, rooster"), or from Proto-Germanic *kiuknan. Cognate with Dutch kuiken ("chick, chicken"), Low German küken ("chicken"), German Küken ("chick"), German dialectal Küchlein ("chicken") and Old Norse kjúklingr ("chicken"). More at cock, -en.

      The first attested use in this fashion as in "Elmer Gantry" in 1926 by Lewis. The Spanish "Chiquita" is of recent origin, and borrowed from English. If it was of Spanish origin, it would have likely either been a variation on "Nina" or "Pollo".

    14. Re:larry flynt for president by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be unaware of a hell of a lot of stuff.

    15. Re:larry flynt for president by sconeu · · Score: 5, Funny

      English doesn't borrow from other languages.
      English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and rummages through their pockets for loose grammar.

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    16. Re:larry flynt for president by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      The Spanish chiquita (that's the female form; a male would be a chiquito) is derived from the Spanish language use of chico and chica as words to describe children and teens. (The literal meaning is small, from the Latin ciccum; they're also used as adjectives with the literal meaning.) A chiquito or chiquita is a diminutive form, and thus literally a small small person. Diminutive forms are used as endearments in Spanish, even for seemingly unlikely words like abuelo/abuela (grandfather/grandmother).

      According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary (source: https://www.merriam-webster.co...), the Chiquitos are a people of southeast Bolivia and also their language. The etymology is given as being derived from the Spanish word chico.

    17. Re:larry flynt for president by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      back in the day married men were the biggest customers of the magazine. we kids used to dig the mags out of neighbor's trash to.....er, read the articles. early porn piracy, 70s style.

  11. Editorial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Playboy was not the only nude picture venue. Just the classiest. Editorial value.

  12. News for nerds... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...stuff that matters.

    No argument here.

    1. Re:News for nerds... by SharpFang · · Score: 2

      Whenever it's stuff that matters, someone complains it's not news for nerds. Whenever it's news for nerds, someone complains it's not stuff that matters.

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  13. We need more Grammy prizes!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not every woman got one. It's not really fair as it is. But none for Joy Villa because she offended everyone.

  14. Re: You know what else is obsolete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You may have a point

  15. Alt History by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    Your chilling rendition of the alternate universe Dark America is exactly why I did not vote for Hillary. Indeed I canceled my order for many barrels of lamp/heating oil the day after the election.

    The humming of the night drones

    The ones Hillary inherited from Obama....

    it is as if she seductively dances only for you

    What is really freaking me out is that I know when you were picturing Hillary when you wrote that. *shudder*

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    1. Re:Alt History by naubol · · Score: 1

      Christ, get over it already, you won! you don't have to talk about HRC anymore!

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    2. Re:Alt History by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See, if he doesn't talk about HRC, he might have to deal with the fact that Trump is an utter failure as president.

      So HRC it is!

  16. Naked is normal?! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sorry, but naked women are anything but natural.

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    1. Re:Naked is normal?! by geek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sorry, but naked women are anything but natural.

      What fucking planet do you come from where being naked isn't natural? Are people on your planet born in scuba gear or something?

    2. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      In America, naked women look like planets.

    3. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but naked women are anything but natural.

      What fucking planet do you come from where being naked isn't natural? Are people on your planet born in scuba gear or something?

      No, he's saying that for most of us, women in the naked condition is not situation: normal

      If this isn't true for you, congratulations, braggart. But more likely I would call you a damn liar.

    4. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      naked women are anything but natural

      naked women

      women

      I see where you are going with this.

    5. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you want to get wooshed? Because this is how you get wooshed.

    6. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With that ID, I am sure the only naked women you have seen was in pictures. So yes, that would probably be unnatural to you.

    7. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot hasn't made me laugh in a long time. Well done!

    8. Re:Naked is normal?! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Hush, we're trying to establish a precedent here!

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    9. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say "not NORMAL" he said "not NATURAL". Asshole.

      Naked is exactly NATURAL. We are born naked.. That's what nature does.. Hence NATURAL.

      Sure, a woman in the naked state is not the norm, but it is NATURAL.

      Why the fuck can't you people understand certain words? NATURAL = FROM NATURE.

    10. Re:Naked is normal?! by aevan · · Score: 1

      You have to say it with a french accent: au naturel

    11. Re:Naked is normal?! by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but naked women are anything but natural.

      What fucking planet do you come from where being naked isn't natural? Are people on your planet born in scuba gear or something?

      Whilst I firmly believe that sex is one of the most natural and wholesome things money can buy... the kind of naked women in Playboy are not natural. They have always, at the very least, been airbrushed the hell out of. Add to that the fact a lot of them are surgically altered (boob jobs, arse implants, now we've got thigh and ab implants), I wouldn't call them natural.

      Also the notion that sex and sensuality is wrong and immoral comes from growing up in a religious environment. This also tends to be replaced with an unhealthy love of violence and weapons.

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    12. Re:Naked is normal?! by Kartu · · Score: 1

      Well, in Germany, for instance, it is normal to be naked in sauna (in fact, not being naked is not normal) and most saunas are mixed most of the time (some have "women days" some have a couple of "women only" rooms).

      Might have something to do with FKK:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      It feels awkward in the beginning, but you quickly get used to it.

      Seeing topless women on a usual beach filled with Europeans isn't particularly unusual either.

    13. Re:Naked is normal?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, he did muddy the waters with his "Naked is normal?!" subject line.

    14. Re:Naked is normal?! by geekmux · · Score: 2

      He didn't say "not NORMAL" he said "not NATURAL". Asshole.

      Naked is exactly NATURAL. We are born naked.. That's what nature does.. Hence NATURAL.

      Sure, a woman in the naked state is not the norm, but it is NATURAL.

      Why the fuck can't you people understand certain words? NATURAL = FROM NATURE.

      We may be born in that state, but there's not a fucking spot on this planet that is truly compatible with being naked, as our caveman ancestors discovered.

      You can call it "natural" all you want, but ironically nature ain't fucking having it, which tends to beg the question of what is "normal" to survive.

    15. Re:Naked is normal?! by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      In America, naked women look like planets.

      obligatory:

    16. Re:Naked is normal?! by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1
      Damn, I screwed up my post. Here is the link:

      obligatory

    17. Re:Naked is normal?! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but naked women are anything but natural.

      What fucking planet do you come from where being naked isn't natural? Are people on your planet born in scuba gear or something?

      NSFW

      There you go, just the thing for those alternative naturalists.
      Side note: If you value you sanity don't Google [insert random word here]+fetish.

  17. Re: You know what else is obsolete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or Andrezza Lyra. She's pretty hot.

  18. Re:Playboy Still Dead by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

    Two words: Angel Boris!!!

  19. I read it for the articles by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    I don't know about recent editions, but Playboy used to have some of the best writing out there. Seriously.

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    1. Re:I read it for the articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They also commissioned serious artists. I mean, tits were obviously still involved. But when you are working with the likes of Salvador Dali, tits are high culture.

    2. Re:I read it for the articles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately, nudity wasn't the only change. The same issue that dropped the nudity, also dropped "Dear Playboy", "Playboy Advisor", "Party Jokes", "Forum", and the full-page comics littered throughout. Maybe a few other sections were dropped, but those were the only ones I noticed since those were the only ones I read.

      I don't know if they are also bringing those sections back, but their arrogance and refusal to even acknowledge any complaints about the changes (even the non-nudity changes), has ensured that I for one will never be returning.

  20. Figure me 15 or 16, in the 70s by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Went back east to Illinois to mom's sister. Her husband took me to the basement, which had a TV and pool table. He showed me where the beer was, and the playboys. I was, um, enjoying the playboys when the lights went out. Went upstairs to adults deciding to investigate. Went with them, some drunk off his ass dude had nailed the power pole maybe half a mile from Archie's place (Archie was the uncle, Maxine mom's sister).

    Never got back to the Playboys nor the beer, but I've told this story dozens of times in the 40+ years since.

    1. Re:Figure me 15 or 16, in the 70s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Went back east to Illinois to mom's sister. Her husband took me to the basement, which had a TV and pool table. He showed me where the beer was, and the playboys. I was, um, enjoying the playboys when the lights went out. Went upstairs to adults deciding to investigate. Went with them, some drunk off his ass dude had nailed the power pole maybe half a mile from Archie's place (Archie was the uncle, Maxine mom's sister).
      Never got back to the Playboys nor the beer, but I've told this story dozens of times in the 40+ years since.

      Cool story bro. Here's mine:

      I was wanking to a playboy in your basement when your mom came down. Then the lights went out and she sexed me good, told me to call her mom while we did it. I've told that story dozens of times too.

    2. Re:Figure me 15 or 16, in the 70s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't reveal the most important part of the story. Did you finish?

  21. I'll give them credit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The no-nudes policy was a good try. Not surprising that it didn't work, so they're back to the old way.

  22. As great an idea as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As great an idea as Budweiser getting out of the beer business.
    "It's all non-alcoholic beverages from us from now on. People are looking to get away from that buzzed feeling."

    1. Re:As great an idea as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Heh, you're probably right. But I think Hef's daughter wanted to go after classier babes to compete against SI's swimsuit issue.

      Basically all the best-looking female athletes and entertainers are willing to strip down in front of the camera, as long as it the end result is not considered porn. I guess Playboy couldn't convince enough of them that it was now a mainstream mag like SI or the women's mags.

    2. Re:As great an idea as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Budweiser _did_ go out of the Beer Business between 1920 and 1933.
      Another example of a minority of American Wankers telling the majority of others that they can't wank.
      Now for the Tech angle- the only PB that I ever bought was the Steve Jobs 1985 interview. Even now, it's a good read:
      http://reprints.longform.org/playboy-interview-steve-jobs

  23. If you don't stop reading it you will go blind. by siamesevodka · · Score: 1

    I think I will read it until I need thick glasses.

  24. Porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At what point did Playboy become porn? Porn = Pornography.

    If a simple nude body is now defined as pornography, this country is going down the shitter..... Hustler / Penhouse.. Yeah.. When you can see INSIDE the girl, I'll accept the label of "porn". I don't think Playboy has EVER done that..

    1. Re:Porn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This seems as good a place as any to point out the difference between "softcore" and "hardcore" porn.

      Softcore = simulated sex
      Hardcore = sex, NOT simulated

      Simple nudity isn't softcore porn. A pictorial showing a couple having sex (but not really; no visible genital/genital or oral/genital contact) is softcore porn.

      That's not to say there isn't softcore where real sex is taking place. Most hotel porn is censored hardcore - the scene was shot hardcore and they just block or blur the action.

  25. Off the rails for years by RubberDogBone · · Score: 2

    I used to be a stockholder in this company, before Hef threw a fit and took it private. Why did he do that? Because investors like me were telling him he was full of shit and his ideas sucked and it was costing the company money, all of which was true. He didn't like it. He took is bat and balls and went home.

    The truth about Hef is that he ran the magazine with final editorial control and final say on EVERY business effort they made, worth mentioning, and he was well into senility by the end, making just awful decisions one after another.

    One great example was the annual 'contest' the magazine and website held to have readers vote for PMOY. None of that shit mattered. Hef and Hef alone picked the winner and that's why for a long time they were all the same blondes, and why he had three of them at once as girlfriends. Hef didn't give a shit about the readers or the company. The decision to drop nudity was actually the first idea in decades that didn't come from Hef. Somebody else came up with it and Hef was so out of it, he waved it through.

    Which was a disaster. Like most of Hefs ideas.

    Cooper Hefner has a much sharper idea of what he wants to do and he gets what the reader wants. Um well, he gets the girls AND what the readers want to see. So maybe he will be able to make a miracle out of it.

    Thanks to Hef, the company has spent decades ignoring massive IP they could have been monetizing, like the bunny girl costumes. That outfit is famous worldwide and isn't considered nearly as adult as the magazine. So why hasn't Playboy had their bunny girls everywhere? All they do license is the rabbit head logo, and then for shit like bad cologne sets and stickers. WTF.

    I hope Cooper turns the merchandising around. I really do.

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    1. Re:Off the rails for years by Baron_Yam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Playboy Clubs should have been so entrenched in our culture that Hooters never happened. You'd have to tier the branding, but it should have been done.

      Same thing with Maxim - it never should have launched because Playboy should already have owned the space. Instead of taking their magazine no-nude, they should have had a 'skimpy clothing' variant years ago. (If they did, I never heard of it so that's a different kind of fail)

      Basically, if you are a guy with money in your pocket, you should have been seriously tempted to peruse a Playboy Men's Health magazine at lunch, eat dinner at a Playboy restaurant, and go for drinks at a Playboy bar and maybe later on go to a Playboy night club. While wearing Playboy cuff links.

      And women should have had 'Playboy for women' (Not Playgirl) as a Cosmo-alternative to let them know '6 tricks in bed to please your Playboy' or something.

      SO much marketing potential wasted.

    2. Re:Off the rails for years by operagost · · Score: 1

      The magazine once known as Maxim no longer exists as of 2014. Maybe there's room for an online version.

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    3. Re:Off the rails for years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Playboy clubs were for the more well-heeled professional man who pays for an annual membership, and Hooters is for the schlub who has to resort to saying he is there for the awesome chicken wings.

  26. That's absolutely a huge part of the paying market by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > This just in: Having a weird fetish means there is little free porn for you.

    And that accounts for more than half of the porn *sold*.
    In another life, I wrote the security system that was used by most "pay sites", sites like GirlsGoneWild and NetvideoGirls with a monthly subscription. There is a lot of free^H^H^H^H^H ripped off tits and ass on the web. People pay for it when there's something special about the site. Either "weird fetish" or just "hook", a gimmick, something a bit different about the site.

    In my role, I could see how many subscribers each site had, so I got a good gauge of what sells well. I also got to hear about once a week a customer asking me how they could stop people from ripping off their stuff and posting it on tube sites. DRM doesn't work, I had to tell them. All the music companies spent a hundred million dollars trying to create DRM that would work, but they are stuck selling mp3s for 99 cents because DRM doesn't work. "But Ray, you're the smartest security guy ever, I'm sure you can figure out a way to secure my content. I pay $5,000 for a shoot and 24 hours after I put it on the site some asshole puts it on the tubes! " Nope, can't fix that.

  27. Politically *rect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Trump's 'Merica it now pays to be politically errect.

  28. Playboy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, I grew up lokng at Playboy - as a boy. As I got older (college) I read the stories, artcles, and advertising.
    An American thing, it had that aura of being a symbol.
    When I got to graduate school, I got my dad a subscriptionfor his birthday. It was fun when Mom tried to intercept them, and when she did, I got a copy from the newsstand and passed it to him in person....
    Not smut, not porn, just beautiful women ( though for a time they were a bit heavier than my taste prefers...).
    Jill DeVries. I remember her. Perfect.

  29. Good, It Just Wasn't the Same by rsmith-mac · · Score: 1

    Good, I'm glad to hear they're putting back the Playmates.

    Even though it's primarily a men's magazine, I still pick up an issue on occasion. It just hasn't been the same over the last year; the faux high-culture style of the magazine lost something essential when it lost the nudes. They aren't the only reason to read the magazine, but it makes for this interesting mix of wit, beauty, and far too many ads for liquor.

  30. Can't WAIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait to get all the nude pictures from the upcoming issue for free on the internet 3 seconds after it hits newsstands... or wherever they sell magazines anymore.

  31. The reaon being... by OpenSourced · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the main reasons why Playboy dropped nudity in the first place was because the internet filled the demand

    Like the Internet didn't fill the demand for news and opinion articles.

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    1. Re:The reaon being... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah and news and opinion magazines/newspapers have been getting crushed as well.

  32. True Porn Clerk Stories by Kunedog · · Score: 2

    Ali Davis, is that you?
    XXX1
    XXX2
    XXX3
    XXX4

  33. Eye for eye, tit for tit, genital for genital. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No problem with nudity, as long as every "scantly clad lady" photo is matched by an equal sized photo of a nude man in the same issue. Otherwise, it's sexism. Women are not animal to be showcased like horses or bovine. If men still want that, let them take their part in the show. Hey John, want to see Jane's private parts displayed in public? Sure, as long as you too show what you are hanging.

    1. Re:Eye for eye, tit for tit, genital for genital. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you want to look at naked men buy a magazine with naked men

    2. Re:Eye for eye, tit for tit, genital for genital. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pissed off that Cosmo, Vogue, Glamour, Elle, Redbook, and Allure don't have ANY content aimed at men! Talk about inequality...

      And because the world makes me unhappy, the world has to change!

  34. Not me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I want is: not a bitch, not fat, gets very lubricated when aroused and is proficient at no hand oral sex.

  35. as borat says VERY NICE!!!! by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    i wondered when i saw some new PB girls on youtube, all nude, and very nicely shot and sexy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  36. www.yourbrainonporn.com - Free yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Find out the damage that pornography is doing to your mind.

    1. Re:www.yourbrainonporn.com - Free yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seriously? damage? So which are you? The Feminist Left or the Religious Right?

  37. Make America Naked Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Put Melania on the front cover. It'll sell millions.

    1. Re:Make America Naked Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, buy up all of Melania's old nude photos and stick them in there at full color.
      Or hire a Melania look-alike, and label it "Presidential Edition - Grab 'Em By The Pussy".
      It will sell like pancakes.

  38. Patreon for porn by DrYak · · Score: 1

    I pay $5,000 for a shoot and 24 hours after I put it on the site some asshole puts it on the tubes

    Definite proof that what they need, is some sort of patronage/crowd-sourcing.
    Get 200 guys pay an average of 25$, the highest bidders get to make request (so they can fullfill whatevet they want they could not easily find elsewhere) - biggest bidders get to take a small part in production (either technical, like holding light. Or a small cameo in a scene. Whatever floats their boat)
    Then it doesn't matter if the film is on porn hub the next day, he already got his 5000$ back before he even started.

    Kind of how the request for weird fetishes on the image board work.
    (Or some niche-fetish porn site offer paid requests)

    If he cannot get 5'000$ in *advance* then there's slim chance that he'll ever be able to them after-ward.
    If nobody is interested enough to pay to have him film it, he should instead try to think of something original enough to attract attention (and money).
    Or switch job.

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    1. Re:Patreon for porn by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Then it doesn't matter if the film is on porn hub the next day, he already got his 5000$ back before he even started.

      Yes, but unless someone pays for the movie, he'll make no profit.

      That's a hobby, not a sustainable business model.

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    2. Re:Patreon for porn by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2

      This is what I've been saying for years. There is no way to stop or regulate people swapping data among themselves. DRM does not work and no one, no matter how talented, is going to find a way to make it work.

      What is sad is how producers have failed to understand the issue. They want to believe they can produce and sell data same as any other material good that is subject to scarcity. They've gone to great lengths to try to turn this dark fantasy into reality, and have of course completely failed. Their efforts were doomed, like any effort to create an actual flying horse, a pegasus, would be. With advances in genetic engineering technology, we could possibly create a horse with wings. But no way would it be able to fly.

      Further, they haven't understood that even if success was possible, and achieved, it would be a setback for society. Because then, it would be possible to lock down and control information, and the power to do that could only be abused to impose tolls on the public in exchange for the same basic information, over and over. Imagine how "profitable" it would be to own the secret of "2+2=4", and no elementary school child could learn that until they paid the owner for the privilege. As it is, the secret of the birds and the bees is guarded entirely too zealously, and the more successful adults are at keeping teenagers in the dark about that, the worse the outcomes tend to be for all concerned. Nudity in Playboy was ever so slightly educational. I bought one for that purpose when I was around 14. The clerk at the bookstore frowned at me-- I was obviously underage, and he wasn't supposed to sell X rated things to minors-- but he didn't ask for my age, just took my cash in exchange for the zine.

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    3. Re:Patreon for porn by nasch · · Score: 1

      Then he sets his target at $5500 and takes home 10% profit.

  39. Re:You know what else is obsolete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the fuck is a rosebud photoshoot? I wouldn't normally bother to ask but I googled it and got nothing but Orson Wells.

  40. But digital media can't compete by MTEK · · Score: 1

    They can't compete with scratch and sniff magazines!

  41. Opinion from a Nudist by ThatNakedGuy · · Score: 2

    I'm a nudist ("naturist"). Nudity is prosaic. I see more naked people every weekend than many of you have seen in your entire lives.
    American society makes such a big deal about nudity, when our media is literally saturated with it. People like nudity, and not just for porn. There's a vocal minority of never-nude types who raise a fuss. I do photography as a hobby. If I post a beautiful flower online it might get 4 views. If I post a non-sexual nude photo it'll get 107 views. People like nudity.
    I've observed that hard core porn people are just immature. I used to have a co-worker who would view porn on his work computer and try to interest me.
    Him- "Wow. Look at her breasts!!!"
    Me- "Yes, most women have those."
    Him- "Wow, look at her pu$$y!!!"
    Me- "Yes, you usually find those on females."
    Yeah, breasts and weenies are unique, but a breast is just a breast and a weenie is just a weenie. Act like you've seen them before.

    1. Re:Opinion from a Nudist by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      I used to come across nude beaches when I live in California.

      There is a difference between those nudists, and the nudes in Playboy.

      Most people are best not viewed nude. This may be especially true of nudists.

      The woman featured in Playboy are exceptional, and then they are professionally made up and photographed, and then the photos are photoshopped.

    2. Re:Opinion from a Nudist by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      How sad. I've just read what it's like to be dead.

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    3. Re:Opinion from a Nudist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Him- "Wow. Look at her breasts!!!"
      Me- "Yes, most women have those."

      Nothing wrong with breasts, I like them a lot.

      However, after you've viewed say, 1000 in one sitting, the novelty wears off.

  42. bewbs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bewbs!

  43. I'm shocked by tehcyder · · Score: 1
    Apparently there's nudity on the internets!

    PS please post link.

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  44. Some /. news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really! You guys must have run out of tech news yo post here.

  45. chaussure nike air max BW by sanyuhao · · Score: 0

    air max 90 L'UE atteindra-t-elle l'objectif de 20% en Etant donnée l'avance, il est probable que ce sera le cas. Mais l'exécutif européen affiche une confiance mesurée : "La trajectoire devient progressivement plus raide dans les années à venir et il faudra intensifier les efforts pour atteindre l'objectif européen". La Commission attire aussi l'attention sur le secteur des transports qui reste à la traine. Non seulement, la part de renouvelables est largement en deçà de la trajectoire fixée, mais elle a tendance à stagner sur la décennie écoulée. En 2015, la part des renouvelables dans les transports est de 6%, ce qui rend improbable l'atteinte de l'objectif de 10% en 2020 fixé pour le secteur. En revanche, elle affiche son optimisme pour la production électrique renouvelable : elle est passée de 21,7% en 2011 à 28,3% en 2015. A ce rythme, les renouvelables "devraient atteindre 50% d'ici 2030".

  46. Tired of Tattoos and Gagging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For me, it's the huge tattoos and all the "choking and gagging" that are a turn off. Do people really get into that or is it just a symptom of the quality of "actors" who are in the business now? I'm not interested in watching a nasty bar skank get humiliated and degraded by a guy who acts like he's thinking more about what he has planned for lunch than the girl in front of him. Don't really want to see rimming either.

    Seriously girls. What's with the tattoos? I saw this woman who must have been every bit of four hundred pounds out waddling around a couple of nights ago. She had tattoos (looked fresh) on the tops of both feet/hooves. Did she really look in the mirror and think that all she needed was to ink up a bit and she'd be ready to rock? I will be so glad when this fad finally wears out.

  47. The Internet did not kill Playboy. Playboy killed by yooy · · Score: 2

    The Internet did not kill Playboy. Playboy killed itself. I once knew a girl that worked at Playboy. She told me that by far, the majority of employees are women. I am not surprised. As far as I know, the DAUGHTER of the founder is in charge of the magazine but I may be wrong. So women writing and designing a magazine made for men. Not surprised this is heading for disaster. If I remember correctly, they once showed Marge Simpson (from the comic series) naked. I mean, really? Besides that, I find the pictures overly artistic and photo-shopped. Pink and Amy (English site seem to be discontinued) has often nice picture. Just an example (not a very good one): https://www.amypink.de/2017/01...

  48. Make America Great Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suggested clickbait headline.

  49. Natural by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Natural? Why the fu_k would anyone claim air-brushed, photo-shopped, heavily made up models in specialized lighting are natural?

    1. Re:Natural by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The perfect woman doesn't exist (nor perfect man) but that's what we want, so that's the fantasy they provide.

      I remember looking at a Playboy with a friend when I was a teen, and the centerfold had nipples slightly higher than the average. My friend called her "deformed" and I was like, HUH?

  50. Pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or it didn't happen.

  51. Playboy still exists? by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

    Why?

  52. Seth Warshavsky by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

    I worked for IEG (Seth Warshavsky, Wikipedia it...). People pay for porn.

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  53. failure in logic by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    Why do you suppose that is? I think it must be because Walmart is the best place to work for compared to those others

    Nooo. Because it is the largest employer, and sometimes the only employer, with open positions. Other smaller players have equally shitty positions, but in less numbers, or have better positions (but again, in smaller numbers.)

    I'm not going around hating Walmart, but I'm not going to bullshit myself to think people go to work at Walmart because ZOMGITSOFUCKINGAWESOMETHEBESTBIGLY.

  54. Won't matter by uncoveror · · Score: 2

    Nude or clothed, print is dead.

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  55. Re:You know what else is obsolete? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rosebudding is controlled rectal prolapse. It makes the ass look like a big meaty pussy when done right.

  56. Who cares what you want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh huh. And if she dares to open her mouth, you'll just stick your dick in it to shut her up?

  57. Pics or it didn't happen! by kybred · · Score: 1

    Come on! All these posts and I had to be the one to say that?

    Sigh, what's this world coming to.

  58. We told ya so by Gallomimia · · Score: 1

    Dear Playboy: I hate to say I told ya so, but, I told ya so.

    Signed Sincerely, The Internet.

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