Facebook To Autoplay Videos With Sound On By Default (androidandme.com)

Currently, Facebook videos autoplay on your News Feed as you scroll up and down. While they eat data and various resources, the saving grace is that they are silent -- that is, until now. Facebook has announced several new changes to its video platform today, including a setting that will autoplay videos with sound turned on by default. Android and Me reports: The audio of videos will fade in and out as you're scrolling through your feed. Fortunately, Facebook will at least make it so that audio won't autoplay if your phone is set to silent. If you're not a fan of this change, there will be a setting to turn audio autoplay off. The change is that it will now be on by default for everyone. Other feature introductions are larger previews for vertical videos, a picture-in-picture mode for videos so you can watch and continue scrolling (and even exit the app without interrupting the video on Android), and a Facebook Video app coming to smart TVs.

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Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Qzukk]

Employers rejoice as productivity increases.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[saloomy]

This will just lead to browsers muting sound by default

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Except there's a switch to turn it off. Just like there's a switch to turn autoplay off.

No wonder we see so many complaints about the stupdification of users, the tech community makes it out like it's such a big deal when the default settings change and a user might have to *gasp* actually actively set an option.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[TWX]

Well, normally the means to set the option isn't intuitive.

That said, what is intuitive is leaving one's headphones plugged in 24/7 or turning the main volume down either through the easily located software option on the taskbar or else on the speakers themselves.

I expect that anyone bitten by this will just leave the sound down/off by default. Given the kinds of prank websites that people used to submit in the past that would scream obscenities via flash animation or some other kind of annoyance, I would find it smart to just have the volume down/off by default in a workplace anyway.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[AHuxley]

Can the PC multimedia speakers or internal speaker be turned off in time?

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

While you may be correct, all videos, audio, and animated image formats should be click-to-play by default. The move to HTML5 video and audio has been especially annoying for me, because Firefox seems to not support this simple functionality. It is way overdue. My preference is for the elements to not be downloaded until I click play. This isn't limited to ad-related content. A lot of articles, news or not, include video clips that aren't needed since the words are sufficient.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[MightyMartian]

I wish the browsers would. Thus far HTML 5 autoplay is one of the great evils of the modern Internet. I browse with volume muted these days precisely for that reason.

Re: Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Complaints from users ( data harvested ), the app is an abomination and hopefully will fade away. The real stupification is users voluntarily install the malware disguised as social. We deserve our digital overlords, the flock is weak.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[jason777]

No, it will lead to browser extensions being created to disable this crap

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

Dealing with browser noise by muting the computer as you've suggested isn't a solution for those that need or want to hear audio from other browser windows and/or applications. I listen to music as I work through headphones at the office and without them while at home. While Facebook's move here doesn't affect me directly since I am one of the five people not on the Social Media bandwagon, other entities will surely jump on board with them and will be yet another pain for me in time.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[by (1706743)]

While I tend to agree, I think there are some times when it's appropriate to have auto-playing content (maybe only restricted to silent content). For example, multimedia-rich pages such as this benefit from a tasteful (in my opinion) use of multimedia.

That said, the ability to choose click-to-play settings (either globally or domain-specific) would be a Good Thing.

And of course, there's a special place in hell for any website which allows auto-play ads with audio.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[dgatwood]

Even if it is silent, it is still wasting huge amounts of battery power for content that the user may not even care about. Choose a keyframe that adequately explains the content of the video, and if users want to watch the video, they can click. If a user is too lazy to click to play the video, that user didn't really care about playing it anyway, so playing it was a waste of power.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[taustin]

If someone needs their sound turned on, maybe they shouldn't be surfing Facebook at work.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[AdamThor]

Facebook playing videos with audio on by default -
reaction 1: oh, this is terrible!
reaction 2: wait, I only unmute my computer for specific media consumption. This probably won't be a big deal.
reaction 3: wait, wait. I'll probably listening to music, and then think "oh, I'll surf FB while checking out this album" and then give myself a heart attack when my mom or someone's dog or something starts coming out of my speakers.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[reboot246]

When I'm reading news, I tend to open sites in multiple tabs and it's really annoying when two or more of them start playing sounds when I haven't even got to them yet. By the time I've read the content of other sites and get to the racket-makers, they've already finished their annoying videos (or just replaying them over and over!).

At least Firefox has a sound icon on each tab so I can mute the ones I don't want to listen to.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Except there's a switch to turn it off.

This is facebook we're talking about. That switch will be moved once a week and even if you've turned it off, every time it's moved it will be turned back on. See also: every opt-out privacy setting on that site ever.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[J053]

I know everybody likes to hate on PulseAudio, but on my work machine (CentOS 7, KDE 4.14) I have individual control for each media stream, so I just keep the one for the browser turned down - that way I can still listen to music.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Headphone manufacturers rejoice as sales increase.

There, fixed it.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

in about:config media.autoplay.enabled=false
done!

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[markdavis]

I have yet to find a single case, ever, that I would think that autoplaying video and/or audio on a website is appropriate. It is just plain, 100% annoying and presumptuous. Offer a NON ANIMATED option to play something and give the user a choice.

Besides being extremely annoying, unwanted video consumes TONS of bandwidth, CPU, and battery on devices.

I absolutely predicted how annoying the web would become when site designers got a hold of these "wonderful" tools that were coming and have been dreading what was coming. We used to be able to stop this crap in its tracks with addons/plugins that restricted Flash, and disable animated GIF's. Those days are now gone. Turn off javascript and 90% of websites just flat out break. Turn off HTML5 video/audio and then you have no access to ANY video/audio.

The web is turning into TV- something for sites to FORCE what they want you to see, they way they want you to see it. Want to use a smaller window for your browser? Well too F'ing bad! Want a nice menu at the top so you can jump to the info you want? Well too F'ing bad! Want to read something without things jumping in front of you over and over? Well too F'ing bad- "we want your feedback" "subscribe!" "take our survey" "click here to chat!!" Want to know how big a page is? Well too F'ing bad- it scrolls forever, adding more and more without warning? Want to just see some actual content? Well too F'ing bad- you have to wade through multi megapixel useless images, sectionalized areas, side scrolling, junk with tons of while space. Want to try and read something without distraction? Well too F'ing bad- every single site has to have animated junk all over it, constantly moving and scrolling. Want to click on something and have instant action because your time is important? Well too F'ing bad- we are going to make EVERYTHING fade in and fade out, scroll in and scroll out. Ug!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, this stuff touched a nerve. A big one.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[DontBeAMoran]

Click-to-play is not enough. We need click-to-download-and-play, because there's a new fad about making 150MB animated GIFs that should be in video format instead. And if we're not planning on watching the GIFs or the videos, it's wasted bandwidth for everyone involved.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Gavagai80]

I often use my browser to listen to music. A volume control on each tab isn't very practical.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

Yes, it is CLICK-TO-DOWNLOAD-AND-PLAY that I actually want. A video shouldn't be downloaded until the user has clicked such a button. Instead, the website should code in a image such as frame one of the video with a watermark showing something like "click to view video" that is displayed in the browser instead to allow the site's layout and structure to be maintained.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

I already had this set to false, and the setting either doesn't apply to all ways HTML5 video is utilized or Firefox extended the functionality to cover more/everything as some point since I first started seeing Flash replaced with HTML5 video and became annoyed enough to go looking for a way to stop the auto-play.

Like several other controls, this should be configurable within the Preferences dialog so that non-technical and less-technical folks can find it and not need to go digging in About:Config. Regardless, it should default to False.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

While I do agree that animation can add something useful and meaningful to the words-based content, I'd rather see pages and sites like your example clearly show at the top buttons/links for simple and wiz-bang versions of the page in place of their providers only coding to the wiz-bang style. It should be the wiz-bang that is the linked alternative to simple version. In your example, neither of the animation contributed anything needed to the work that couldn't be sufficiently convey through a static image. The animation and fade-in/fade-out background photo just made the piece more artsy and/or "cool".

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Slashdot Junky]

Well, the web has been moving toward TV-like delivery and styling for quite a while now, and I am certain that it was declared in the early days once commercialization of the web really took off to be TV's future as far as how content produces hoped to use it one day.

Re: Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

so there's a special place in hell for prime time journalists?

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Windows has this too but it won't work on individual tabs IN the browser.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Yes autoplay of html5 audio and video should be stopped at browser level.

So many times I am sitting at a meeting and then get an advert for some moaning woman playing over my laptop.....

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Your.Master]

Streaming video websites which are opened in the foreground tab of the active window, because visiting those sites is indication of user intent to view the video. That's also, of course, TV-like by design.

There's a fair argument to be made that this is not sufficiently compelling in the fact of sites that want to play annoying bullshit and pretend to be a streaming video website, but I also think this is a legitimate case that we have to acknowledge that we are breaking. There are ways around this, eg. sites like youtube could be on an optional curated whitelisted for play-by-default, or right click the play button and "always play for [domain]" though even that's risky if the bad guys honeypot you once into letting them always play.

If facebook plays video by default, and if I can't change that default, facebook is gone from my use. Unsolicited sound is the worst thing on the web short of actual malware (and sometimes it's part of malware), and it's the thing that made me reinstall adblock after going without it for years since I want the free ad-supported model of much of the Internet to survive, but the bad actors on those sound-by-default sites just overwhelms that desire.

Re: Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Plausible deniability. When my wife catches me watching a video of a girl with her tits out. I can just say that I was scrolling and it started playing. I never once clicked on it.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

YouTube and/or Netflix is about the only example I can give... one because it is obvious I want to watch a short clip now, the other because it is obvious I want to watch a long clip now...

Crunchyroll if you like anime...etc...

but other than Video Streaming Sites... you are correct.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[davester666]

just another reason to make sure "facebook.com" resolves to 127.0.0.1

Re: Facebook use plummets during business hours

[dunkelfalke]

Hear hear.
I start to seriously miss the 1990ies web, with frames, the blink tag, and netscape now buttons.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

Streaming video websites which are opened in the foreground tab of the active window, because visiting those sites is indication of user intent to view the video. That's also, of course, TV-like by design.

If you mean video ONLY, you might be right. But not for something like Youtube.

I use Kodi to watch Youtube videos, and once in a while I see a video that I think "this is going to piss some people off", and open the browser to read the comments. As soon as I do, the video I just watched starts playing again.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

The move to HTML5 video and audio has been especially annoying for me, because Firefox seems to not support this simple functionality.

Mozilla managed to make it worse recently, by automatically starting the download of videos, even when they are not yet playing, because the web page said in the video tag that the video should be prefetched (preload="auto").

I mean, WTF!? Why should the web site decide that I will download GBs of data upon loading their page.
And unlike a playing video, you won't notice unless you have some kind of network activity monitor running.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[mjwx]

This will just lead to browsers muting sound by default

Most employers are blocking Facebook. This is more a problem with phones which are always switched to full volume. I turned off autoplay ages ago. I just need to figure out how to completely get rid of the Instashit ads.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[jenningsthecat]

The move to HTML5 video and audio has been especially annoying for me, because Firefox seems to not support this simple functionality. It is way overdue. My preference is for the elements to not be downloaded until I click play.

Can't help you with click-to-download, but click-to-play, (for some-but-not-all videos), can be turned on by going into 'about:config' and setting 'media.autoplay.enabled' to 'false' . And if you're running Pale Moon, (which you might want to consider if you're sick of Mozilla's idea of UI "innovations" and you also want to kill ALL video autoplay), then you can also set 'media.autoplay.allowscripted' to 'false'. That latter setting doesn't exist in FF as far as I can tell, but it is present in Pale Moon. I set both of the above values in Pale Moon soon after Flashblock started to not work, and now I NEVER experience automatic playing of videos. Add Greasemonkey and an appropriate script, (Startpage is your friend here), and you can also kill YouTube's shitty 'we're always going to play our next recommended video unless you explicitly tell us not to do so every time you open a new tab' behaviour.

I consider the above to be as important as NoScript and an ad blocker when it comes to taking control over my browsing experience away from the fuckwits who run websites and putting it back into my own hands.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[jittles]

While I tend to agree, I think there are some times when it's appropriate to have auto-playing content (maybe only restricted to silent content). For example, multimedia-rich pages such as this benefit from a tasteful (in my opinion) use of multimedia. That said, the ability to choose click-to-play settings (either globally or domain-specific) would be a Good Thing. And of course, there's a special place in hell for any website which allows auto-play ads with audio.

Do you work for the NYT or something? I have yet to see a single news website that succeeds at "tasteful use of multimedia." NYT might be better than most because they're historically a print media, but I don't go to a freaking news website to watch a video! I go there to read the news! If I wanted to watch a video and listen to some multimedia, I'd probably go to YouTube or turn on my TV. In the rare instances where the article makes me want to watch some footage, I'd like to be able to choose to do so instead of having the video shoved down my throat at the top of the article I am trying to read. I can read the whole article in half the time it takes some news anchor to blabber on about the content.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

This will just lead to browsers muting sound by default

I think you severely underestimate how many people using the dedicated app on their phone...

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[gnick]

CNN has gotten bad about this lately. I've had several stories that I clicked on that had a small video window that would start playing automagically with the sound on. That's obnoxious at home and a problem at work. I now keep my work system muted as I wasn't willing to stop visiting CNN.

I occasionally browse FB while watching videos in another window. Having a FB video hijack me or start playing over what I'm already watching will be enough to bitch about.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[DdJ]

This will just lead to browsers muting sound by default

I actually wrote a browser extension that prevents my browser from loading any media of any kind at all. Coupled with turning off all plugin support, it's been an absolute delight. Never any sound, rarely any motion.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[LinuxIsGarbage]

get to the racket-makers, they've already finished their annoying videos (or just replaying them over and over!).

Some move on and start autoplaying videos unrelated to the original article.

Re: Facebook use plummets during business hours

[LinuxIsGarbage]

Hear hear.
I start to seriously miss the 1990ies web, with frames, the blink tag, and netscape now buttons.

Even irritating flashing animated-GIF ads from the era are better than what we have now. At least they were efficient with their use of bandwidth.

FTFA:

if you're not a fan of this change, there will be a setting to turn audio autoplay off.

Just like how there's a setting in newsfeed to show "Most recent" instead of "Top stories" that is ALWAYS honored?

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[LinuxIsGarbage]

While I tend to agree, I think there are some times when it's appropriate to have auto-playing content (maybe only restricted to silent content). For example, multimedia-rich pages such as this benefit from a tasteful (in my opinion) use of multimedia.

That's a terrible multimedia rich page. It looks like it's supposed to be a written article but it takes over THE ENTIRE WINDOW to show a stupid video of a boat. Scroll down and it jars into a written article. Keep scrolling and it jars into another fucking full page video. Particularly annoying if you're scrolling at high speed. This is actually only of the worst fucking uses of autoplay video I've seen.

I also don't know what the deal is with blogs now deciding that all their images must be animated GIFs instead of stationary pictures.

About the only place that autoplay videos / sound are acceptable are on audio or video sites (Youtube for example, with the caveat that it's annoying on the channel page)

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[LinuxIsGarbage]

Streaming video websites which are opened in the foreground tab of the active window, because visiting those sites is indication of user intent to view the video. That's also, of course, TV-like by design.

If you mean video ONLY, you might be right. But not for something like Youtube.

I use Kodi to watch Youtube videos, and once in a while I see a video that I think "this is going to piss some people off", and open the browser to read the comments. As soon as I do, the video I just watched starts playing again.

By far, more often than not when I click on a Youtube link I want to view the video immediately. Exceptions are:
-When I want to go to the channel page. I might revisit a channel frequently and hate having to pause the same intro video
-Viewing my own videos to check the comments
-Following up with comments on another video.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[by (1706743)]

I guess there are several issues here:

1. As technology evolves, should the web evolve in its capability as well? If we allow it to evolve, ok -- that's what we're seeing here. If not, where should it stop? Should we allow images to load without clicking on them, etc.? Should we allow the blink tag? Or should we just stick to text+hyperlinks?
2. Should web browsers yield more control to the end user? YES, is my answer -- we *should* be able to turn off or turn on autoplay, we should be able to disable scripts/Flash/an image file format we dislike/etc.
3. Should web developers use every feature available to them when something simpler would work? (NO is my answer 99% of the time.)

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[by (1706743)]

I respectfully disagree -- regarding the battery issue, how much of an issue is this with proper GPU decoding? I know Netflix doesn't instantly sap the battery on my phone.

Regarding "Choose a keyframe that adequately explains the content of the video...", are you saying that's what you would prefer, or are you saying that's essentially the only thing that should be allowed by the standard? I guess there are several issues here, one is the design issue of when it is and isn't appropriate to use this -- and being a design issue, there will be plenty of disagreements. The other issue is whether or not the standard should allow one to make dubious design decisions (and likewise, whether the browser should allow you to override those -- which it of course should, in my opinion).

Personally, I wouldn't find it offensive if your website's background image had the planet slowly rotating beneath the satellite; it would add an ambiance to the page which of course would convey no real information, except for a subtle sense of immersion presumably desired to begin with (else why have a background image at all?). Of course, if I had to click on it for it to start playing, I probably wouldn't be bothered...

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Neuronwelder]

Thank you markdavis! For this very reason I avoid videos and read instead. Video is a time waster.

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[Anonymous Coward]

well, is forcing audio and autoplay even the issue, really?

seems the real issue is which setting is the default

...on an app that costs you nothing, on a platform that is trying to make money

Re:Facebook use plummets during business hours

[michael_wojcik]

Sounds like what we need is a Greasemonkey script that finds audio and video elements, removes them from the DOM, and replaces them with simple visual elements with onclick listeners that restore the original audio or video element. Probably it should remove the autoplay attribute in the process, and force the control attribute on. There may be such a script already at userscripts.org. (I'd write one myself if I didn't have plenty of real work stacked up. Though if I get sufficiently annoyed at some A/V-using site I might do it anyway.)

Then all you need to do is use Firefox, install Greasemonkey, and install that user script.

Of course, some sites will inject audio/video out of band using scripting, iframes, and other trickery. It'll be an arms race, as it always is. But even a relatively simple implementation like the one described above would cut a great deal of this crap. (Probably not in the specific case of Facebook, but that's the price you pay for using Facebook. I know, I know, for many people it's an excellent way to keep in touch with friends and family. I'm thinking the only real solution is a custom proxy that reads m.facebook.com and strips out as much crap as possible before passing it on.)

Not a good idea

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm not sure that's such a good idea.

Posting obscene videos with loud audio will be gre

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm picturing something with that porn pic from gizmodo and a loud moaning woman.

And if you get burned by this

[Anonymous Coward]

You should'a read Slashdot!

Vertical Video

[subk]

Now they're going to *reward* users for shooting fucked up vertical video? How retarded can Facebook get?

Re:Vertical Video

[TWX]

Facebook is running out of new users at their current intelligence level. In order to expand (which apparently is what modern business requires, it's not enough to simply remain the same) they have to figure out how to acquire more and more customers, which means lowering the bar further and further.

I still have to wonder how sound their business model is. Have they actually turned a profit yet?

Re:Vertical Video

[AdamThor]

"I still have to wonder how sound their business model is."

Business model now have sound by default!

Re:Vertical Video

[Gavagai80]

I still have to wonder how sound their business model is. Have they actually turned a profit yet?

Googled that for you. As of November 2nd 2016: "The social media giant said Wednesday that third-quarter revenue soared 56% to $7 billion and its quarterly profit nearly tripled to $2.38 billion"

Sounds like a pretty profitable business model to me.

Re:Vertical Video

[Anonymous Coward]

and we all know how well that worked out for aol in its own heyday.

you heard it here first, folks. facebook will be (at least) as irrelevant in 15 years as aol is today.

Re:Vertical Video

[Anonymous Coward]

They sell ads via the giant network of browser traffic tracking they do both inside/outside facebook (each of those 'click here to like' buttons used to (do they still? I block all that shit by default now so I forget) use your FB cookie EVEN WHEN LOGGED OUT to track you.

Let alone "Flash Cookies" aka.... the UC Berkeley paper that brought them to like "Zombie cookies"

Re:Vertical Video

[Anonymous Coward]

Adding more annoying crap is not going to convince me to create a Facebook account.

Re:Vertical Video

[swb]

I saw that number in the news and it makes me wonder -- is all that money coming from display advertising or is some/most of it coming from data sold to advertisers?

I get next to zero "sponsored posts" in my newsfeed and as of yet, U-Block + Privacy Badger hasn't been a problem on Facebook and I see zero display ads, too.

So where is all that money coming from?

Re:Vertical Video

[Anonymous Coward]

bah. you got me.

That's nice

[Anonymous Coward]

Yet another reason to not use facebook.

Re:That's nice

[Mr D from 63]

Yet another reason to not use facebook.

Yes people like you are too stupid to be able to change a setting and your only option is failure. Obviously even the most simple of tasks is well beyond your capability.

Facebook sucks by default, no settings can change that.

Re:That's nice

[CrashNBrn]

Indeed. I logged in to update my password... Facebook makes even Amazon look uncluttered.

Re:That's nice

[taustin]

There's on setting that can solve it completely. It's in your hosts file:

127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com

Anybody who surfs the web with their sound turned on is an idiot anyway, though.

Re:That's nice

[Opportunist]

Oh no! He said ho... file!

Prepare for impact.

Re: That's nice

[Anonymous Coward]

That only prevents you from signing on to Facebook. It doesn't do anything to prevent their tracking bugs on every damn website from tracking your every visit.

Re: That's nice

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd sure like to know if there was a sort of hosts engine available. Hosts files seem like a better idea.
?????

Re: That's nice

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd sure like to know if there was a sort of hosts engine available.

Run your own DNS server, and block whatever you want. And not just for you, but everyone on your network.

On a PI
https://pi-hole.net/

Roll your own linux DNS
https://sweetcode.io/ad-blocking-with-local-dns-servers-and-nginx/

Re:That's nice

[fuzzywig]

I don't normally hop on the "I'm so special for not using facebook" posts, but this time I'm feeling really smug about not having a facebook account.

Seriously, autoplay videos are the fucking worst.

Before I left Facebook I'd turned off autoplay.

[mmell]

Will Facebook still honor that setting (for current users, that is)? If not, they've successfully found a way to prevent people from accessing FB when they should be working. Bravo!

Re:Before I left Facebook I'd turned off autoplay.

[Anonymous Coward]

Will Facebook still honor that setting (for current users, that is)? If not, they've successfully found a way to prevent people from accessing FB when they should be working. Bravo!

Even *if* they didn't honour that setting the summary *clearly* says that not only will the audio not play if the phone is on silent but it will also have a setting to disable the audio autoplay. Seriously it's not that complicated.

Time to rename Facebook

[Minupla]

Time to rename Facebook RickRollBook!

Re:Time to rename Facebook

[ls671]

Musical Box?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

How about resetting everyone's privacy srttings ag

[Anonymous Coward]

It was a hit last time Facebook changed everyone's privacy settings to public. They should do it again!

http://www.business2community.com/facebook/warning-your-facebook-privacy-settings-have-been-reset-065965

BFD

[Anonymous Coward]

This article seems carefully worded to engender a sense of outrage in readers, presumably because the author is a greedy bastard who is only out for page views. The fact is, any Facebook user who is too stupid to go find the settings so they can turn off autoplay (or turn off audio on autoplay) deserves what they get. I turned off autoplay a long time ago, and have never regretted it. A very slight change to the wording of the article would have made it a perfectly reasonable factual article, but instead we get this crap.

What assholes

[Anonymous Coward]

How can they make it EVEN MORE annoying??????

Facebook is the internet

[Anonymous Coward]

Internet videos autoplay sound now.

Re:Facebook is the internet

[Anonymous Coward]

Are you saying Facebook is the de facto standards setter? It's not officially a standard until Facebook says it is?

Facebook still blocked on my firewall

[Anonymous Coward]

And now additional reasons to never allow any connections to Facebook domains.

(oh, and those websites that won't load because their script can't connect to FB - I see what you're doing, and I know how to route around your brain damage.)

F.B. Purity

[Anonymous Coward]

That is the answer.

RAPE

[Anonymous Coward]

is all this is.

Matters not to those that do not facebook

[mikeiver1]

Could not care less if I were dead. It is yet another reason I do not even have a facebook account and never will.

Web don'ts

[Dracos]

Autoplay video has been on every year's "Top 10 Web Don'ts" list since at least 1998. It's the most consistently hated practice since the web began.

Re:Web don'ts

[Anonymous Coward]

> It's the most consistently hated practice since the web began.

Damn kids that don't remember the blink tag

Re:Web don'ts

[Mitreya]

Autoplay video has been on every year's "Top 10 Web Don'ts" list since at least 1998

Topped in the same list only by Autoplay of loud sounds before you can even spot the video on the page.

For some reason there is no obvious browser mechanism to disable sound by default. It's very rare that I want a webpage to be able to speak. So explicit permission would be nice.

Re:Web don'ts

[Anonymous Coward]

Safari lets you do this. Just click the speaker icon on the tab to mute the tab.

Re:Web don'ts

[SeaFox]

Autoplay video has been on every year's "Top 10 Web Don'ts" list since at least 1998.

Why would Facebook care what users think of the practice? They aren't Facebook's customers.

Re:Web don'ts

[subk]

He or she said "disable sound by default", dumbass.

Re:Web don'ts

[thegarbz]

Repeating this meme is just showing shortsighted stupidity. Just because you think users are a product (a lack of understanding of b2b relationships) doesn't mean that Facebook can not care about them. A farmer who sells milk also doesn't consider the cow a product, that doesn't mean he would be happy about going out and simply shooting a few of them.

If you piss of your user base they will leave, at which point you have nothing further to sell on the other side of your business.

Please apply a bit of critical thought before hitting submit.

Re:Web don'ts

[Anonymous Coward]

If a company was a rational entity with a singular goal, you may have a point.

If the farm was run by a bunch of MBAs who wanted to see short-term gains and get nice bonuses before they left for another farm, shooting a few of the cows may decrease feed costs and property taxes and pay off in the short term. The long term is somebody else's problem. Not exactly a far-fetched concept when you look at how many companies are run.

Re:Web don'ts

[SeaFox]

If you piss of your user base they will leave, at which point you have nothing further to sell on the other side of your business.

The thing about corporate-controlled social networks -- they only let you talk to other people on that network. The userbase will not leave until they start to leave en masse, because if they leave they will be cut off from all their "friends" and family also on the network. It's not like email where you can change your provider and write to all the same people from a new address.

People will not have this mass-exodus until something new comes along that everyone else is moving to because its the "hip new thing". There are still lots of people on MySpace and it is long, long past being the place to be and had its mass exodus. Facebook has its audience pretty captive at this point.

Re:Web don'ts

[michael_wojcik]

And the marquee element. Bob Whipple has a nice little essay on those two in From A to <A>.

Animated GIFs are definitely up there too.

But to be fair, when the web began, there was no audio, video, blink, or marquee. I'm trying to remember what we complained about the most back in the day. The fact that it was slower than gopher and largely duplicated WAIS, maybe. The lack of persistent connections and consequent always-in-slow-start behavior. Starting Lynx and discovering your $TERM is wrong, or the system you're using doesn't have the right termcap or terminfo. Eternal September.

Finally facebook shoots itself in the foot

[Anonymous Coward]

the internet for many years has tolerated a lot of bullshit form web sites, but one remains universally unacceptable, making noise suddenly and without warning.

web pages need to be quiet unless i specifically request they make noise

Re:Finally facebook shoots itself in the foot

[thomn8r]

web pages need to be quiet unless i specifically request they make noise

Like children and female senators

Social media impeding exodus metric

[Anonymous Coward]

This is how you know that Facebook usage will soon peak and slowly peter out. Those who repeat the past and all that.

Whew.

[markdavis]

I am so glad I don't have a Facebook account...

Roadmap

[jxander]

So as you can see on the map, we're currently passing the MySpace landmark and beginning our death spiral.

uBlock

[Anonymous Coward]

Also, so glad I removed my FB account and decided to walk the streets smelling the roses with my head held high years ago.
Things look better from this perspective, oh and the chances of me saving someone from stepping out in traffic has risen by orders of magnitude.

I'm so glad I never joined...

[Anonymous Coward]

...so glad.
Recommended reading: UBIK P.K. Dick

Recommended watching: O.B.I.T. , The Outer Limits (1963)
"In this room, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, security personnel at the Defense Department's Cypress Hills Research Center keep constant watch on its scientists through O.B.I.T., a mysterious electronic device whose very existence was carefully kept from the public at large. And so it would have remained but for the facts you are about to witness"

and Max Headroom. All of it. 20 minutes into the future. (Clue, in the future it is illegal to turn you television off for more that a short time periods)

This is wonderful

[tchdab1]

I needed a good push to stay away from Facebook. Avoiding instant noise is definitely that push.

Facebook Better Becareful

[Anonymous Coward]

This is a stupid idea, I already hate that they autoplay without audio. Now they will autoplay with audio on. This might make me finally leave FB. In the last 2 years I have had 3/4 of my friends stop using Facebook altogether, this autoplay with audio will only make a lot more people to stop using Facebook. Another annoyance is that the videos are played at full volume, I have to turn the volume down to about half all the time and my phone/computer settings are not set loud. The only people that are on FB are desperate for attention, trying to sell something, promote themselves, or cry about how bad their life is. ... now that I think about it if they autoplay with audio on I will drop Facebook.

As if

[JustAnotherOldGuy]

Autoplaying videos? As if I needed another reason never to use Facebook.

Fly on the wall.

[Avantare]

Brian: Mark, why don't you make all user submitted video\audio autoplay?
Mark: Great idea Brian. I could then sell 10 second slots to advertisers and precede the user submitted videos.

Later that evening at a different meeting.
Brian: Gentlemen, I want the cap lowered to 768GB's effective immediately in all our markets.

Unintended consequences

[Anonymous Coward]

The obvious unintended consequence is Facebook being banned from cube farm workplaces. With Facebook losing revenue. Go Mark!

Just turn off video autoplay

[Anonymous Coward]

You can turn off video autoplay in the app settings.

But, what bugs the shit out of me is that every time the app updated, it reset to autoplay (and turned notifications back on). So every time I turned around I had to go back in and turn them all back off again. That's why I quit Facebook and went to another platform.

Fuck you Zuck. You're an asshole.

FB Purity

[thomn8r]

I think FB Purity http://www.fbpurity.com/ Ironically I'm @ work and can't get to faceplant to verify

I hope they bring back blinking text too

[burhop]

I'd also like them to update their UI to include more HTML tables, note areas they are working on with "Under Construction" animated GIFs and include a hit counter, preferably in a cartoon font, so everyone knows how popular my page is.

I stopped going to facebook long ago "by default"

[Anonymous Coward]

Look forward to them going away.

CNN.COM

[NealBScott]

Did anyone notice that CNN.COM goes out of its way to post video where a perfectly acceptable block of text would convey the same info? I guess mouth breathers are everywhere.

Old People News

[Anonymous Coward]

Grandparents will love this change. For those of us yet to crack 20 or 25, who still uses Facebook. AYYYYYYY