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Uber Says Thousands of London Drivers Threatened By English Language Test (reuters.com)

Costas Pitas, writing for Reuters: Tens of thousands of London private hire drivers could lose their licenses due to new English reading and writing requirements, taxi app Uber said on Tuesday at the start of a court battle to halt the plans. San Francisco-based Uber, which allows users to book journeys at the touch of a button on their smartphone, has grown rapidly in recent years but faced bans and protests around the world as regulators play catch-up with technology disrupting traditional operators. Uber launched legal action in August after public body Transport for London (TfL) said that drivers should have to prove their ability to communicate in English, including to a standard of reading and writing which Uber says is too high. "It produces the profoundest of human effects. At one extreme it will lead to the loss of livelihood," Uber's lawyer Thomas de la Mare told the High Court in London. There are over 110,000 private hire drivers in the British capital, according to TfL but around 33,000 would fail to pass their renewal test due to the new language hurdle, de la Mare told the court, citing a calculation of data provided by TfL.

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  1. Re:more for taxi drivers by Highdude702 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I live in Las Vegas, NV. The roads are plagued with a sea of traffic cones. Google maps doesnt account for that unless there is an accident or the road is completely closed. I've been driving service work around Las Vegas since I was 15. After 15 years of driving this city daily. Google maps can not get you from one end to the other faster than I can. I have guys I work with call me and ask whats the fastest way to get from point A to point B. Human Knowledge beats shitty "AI" Algorithms all day. Also I can do it without siphoning your personal information along the way..

  2. The value of speaking English by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I once got into a taxi at an airport in Chicago. Before we set off the driver pointed at the meter talking in thick Pidgin English that I could barely understand. The only word I could pick out was "meter." I just nodded politely and said yes because I wanted to get to my hotel for a meeting. When I got to the hotel he started wrangling with me to about paying more than was on the meter, apparently he had turned it off at some stage of the journey for some unfathomable reason. He got really belligerent about it too. The hotel was reimbursing me for the trip and after about five minutes of him, the hotel concierge and me trying to discuss it I just asked the manager to reimburse him what he wanted because I hadn't a clue what was going on and it was only another $20 or so.

    I know that some people like apps like Uber because they minimize human communication, but it's still a vital skill. As long as you're not asking drivers to write a book report on Ulysses by Joyce, expecting them to communicate clearly in the local language is not too much to ask for.

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  3. Most "English speaking" people... by denzacar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...still need subtitles and a dictionary to fully understand a Guy Ritchie movie.

    On the other hand... the B1 level which is required is the equivalent of "GCE AS level / lower grade A-level" which is the equivalent of a 13th-grade exam.
    Which about 55% of UK students don't take.

    Meaning that 55% of UK citizens, raised and educated in UK, don't qualify.
    Or that they would have to fork up 200 pounds to take (and pass) an "expected for university admission" level of knowledge of English.

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  4. Re:Uber need to get a clue. by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Shouldn't the level of quality be up to the customer?

    Seeing as the UK is a democracy, it already is. And they decided at the ballot box in order to save time having to make the decision every time they get in a damn cab.

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  5. Re:Uber need to get a clue. by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just spotted on the BBC: Londoner accidentally gets Uber to Croydon, via Bristol. That's a £467 bill for what should have been a ~30 minute journey (in central London) that took five additional hours and a few hundred extra miles because the Uber driver didn't speak enough English to understand what the problem was when the passenger woke up and realised what was going on. To be fair to Uber, they're going to refund the fare as a goodwill gesture, but apropos to the story non-the-less.

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