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Boston Public Schools Map Switch Aims To Amend 500 Years of Distortion (theguardian.com)

Students attending Boston public schools are now getting a more accurate depiction of the world after the school district rolled out a new standard map of the world that show North America and Europe much smaller than Africa and South America. From a report on The Guardian: In an age of "fake news" and "alternative facts", city authorities are confident their new map offers something closer to the geographical truth than that of traditional school maps, and hope it can serve an example to schools across the nation and even the world. For almost 500 years, the Mercator projection has been the norm for maps of the world, ubiquitous in atlases, pinned on peeling school walls. Gerardus Mercator, a renowned Flemish cartographer, devised his map in 1569, principally to aid navigation along colonial trade routes by drawing straight lines across the oceans. An exaggeration of the whole northern hemisphere, his depiction made North America and Europe bigger than South America and Africa. He also placed western Europe in the middle of his map. Mercator's distortions affect continents as well as nations. For example, South America is made to look about the same size as Europe, when in fact it is almost twice as large, and Greenland looks roughly the size of Africa when it is actually about 14 times smaller.

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  1. Geometry is hard, as is geography by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To be fair, Mercator's projection - whether it had any kind of agenda in favor of minimizing Africa or not - ran up against some serious geography and geometry problems. Africa is the largest continent that crosses the equator, and a large amount of its land mass is relatively close to the equator. By comparison, North America does not traverse the equator at all, nor does Europe, Asia, or Australia. As it was pointed out in the summary, Greenland appears near the size of Africa in this projection but that reflects the projection itself more than anything.

    As we were all (hopefully) taught in school, any map projection will be a compromise. After all, we're trying to take the surface of a round object and display it on a flat surface.

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    1. Re:Geometry is hard, as is geography by houghi · · Score: 2

      Mercator Projection was used to find direction (not distance) at sea.
      From Wikipedia "It became the standard map projection for nautical purposes because of its ability to represent lines of constant course, known as rhumb lines or loxodromes, as straight segments that conserve the angles with the meridians."

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    2. Re:Geometry is hard, as is geography by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This article tries to justify imposing socialist political propaganda as a 'new' lesson in geography. As you said, many of us were taught about the distortions of Mercator (and possibly others) back when we were children too, without the political indoctrination. The implied message is that it is somehow racist/'imperialist' which is insane. If this was strictly about more accurate geography and cartography, there'd be no need to talk about politics or sociology.

      The fact they use a TV show, itself a piece of propaganda, as a reference drives home the vapidity of modern journalism.

    3. Re:Geometry is hard, as is geography by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      The trouble isn't with the Mercator projection, it does what it was designed to do well enough; but the somewhat baffling decision to make a map whose main virtues are for marine navigation the quasi-default for classroom applications mostly focused on what happens on land.

      I've never heard a particularly cogent justification for that one.

    4. Re:Geometry is hard, as is geography by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      It's just more blatant political correctness, trying to right wrongs that are only in their heads. If they're that concerned about it, just do away with flat maps of the world and replace them with globes. Then nobody can argue one way or the other.

  2. oblig xkcd by irussel · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:oblig xkcd by Eloking · · Score: 5, Insightful

      https://xkcd.com/977/

      Nice find!

      But in the end, it's all relate to this : The earth is a globe, and there's no way to represent is on a 2D map without :
      1-Tearing the map appart
      2-Stretching the map

      Personally, I prefer the 3rd option : "Put more globe in your school" like this one : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fEqw...

      Now that is awesome.

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    2. Re:oblig xkcd by saider · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google Earth in all classrooms!

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    3. Re:oblig xkcd by Cyberax · · Score: 2

      This website handily shows the projection distortions: http://thetruesize.com/ - try playing with the US and China for an example.

  3. I'm all for correct country proportions, but by SensitiveMale · · Score: 5, Insightful

    to lay the reasoning on "fake news" sounds stupid.

    1. Re:I'm all for correct country proportions, but by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Problem is, this new map isn't particularly reflective of the truth either. Go look up the total area of both North America and South America on Wikipedia, then look at how they are represented on this map.

      TFA states that "the USA is small", which is a silly thing to say about the third largest country in the world... but they did an even greater disservice to now-puny Canada and Russia.

      Politics always wins out, one way or the other.

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  4. Here is the obligatory XKCD by GuB-42 · · Score: 2
  5. Distortion is fact. by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Informative

    You must have some type of distortion when projecting a map of a globe on a flat plane.
    The school has just decided that it wants one type of distortion instead of another.

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  6. Ridiculous by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    No flat map of the world is more or less accurate than any other. All of them are wrong. And the north hemisphere is distorted in exactly the same way that the south hemisphere is.

    If you're attending a half-decent school, notice the globe, and do use it.

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  7. Alternative Facts Again? by greg65535 · · Score: 2

    In the new map proportions seem to be off again: Asia should be roughly 50% larger than Africa, it certainly is not. I guess everyone has his/her own alternative facts.

  8. Fake news? by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the problem with the whole definition -

    The Mercator projection is ACCURATE for it's data view (to better display trade routes).

    So long as the information itself isn't false it's just a different view facet of the data set.

    My school system didn't use the Mercator maps but they weren't "accurate" either because they balanced out all the land masses so they were all VISIBLE so the various geographies and cities could be pointed out during lectures.

  9. Opposite effect of that intended by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So let me get this straight, Africa and South America have that much more land and natural resources than the first world countries - and still can't do nearly as well in terms of development and wealth? That would tend to make one even more dismissive of cultures on those larger landmasses that cannot pull it together.

    The end result over some time is that assumptions will be made that people from those regions are simply not as smart. That's sad because it's more a matter of poor governance than intelligence, but what can you do when you present such a grim picture?

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    1. Re:Opposite effect of that intended by Gilgaron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I found the ideas about this in Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond to be pretty interesting. His thesis is that flora and fauna played a large role in where civilizations rose when, and how successful they were. South America and Africa each run North/South which inhibits trade in livestock and crops.

  10. Irony by Diddlbiker · · Score: 2

    The article ends with:
    “The Mercator projection showed the spread and power of Christianity and is standard,” she said. “But it is not the real world at all. What the Boston public schools are doing is extremely important and should be adopted across the whole of the US and beyond.”
    Beyond the US even! Perhaps beyond the US other maps have already been adopted for this reason? I know that when I was in high school decades ago, our world map was not a Mercator projection for exactly this reason.
    If those educators had been looking over the border they would have implemented this around the turn of this century.

  11. Re:Never had a globe? by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 5, Funny

    We learned about maps and their inherent distortions in fucking _middle_ school, again in high school. Referenced the globes sitting in every classroom.

    The globes have been removed because the other shapes objected to the privileged position of circles and spheres. In their place will be a diversity of shapes with the exception of spheres which have also been blamed for keeping down Africa and South America. The only spheres that are now allowed are other shapes that have had the corners chipped away to now be spheres as they always felt that they were spheres on the inside.

  12. Projections matter by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree; Mercator's projection is not deliberately designed to minimize Africa. That is incidental. But, nevertheless, it is a side effect. As a kid, I was always puzzled as to why Australia is a continent, but Greenland not, when on the map Greenland is clearly larger.

    I'm a fan of the Lambert cylindrical equal-area projection, which seems to be geometrically very clear and straightforward, although it has a odd (pi to 1) aspect ratio.

    And, of course, the obligatory xkcd.

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    1. Re:Projections matter by Rei · · Score: 2

      I like Boggs Eumorphic personally. Less distortion than the already pretty good Goode Homolosine.

      I actually agree with the XKCD comic that, hey, the problem is like peeling an orange, so why not do it as peeling an orange? And if you're going to do that, you might as well have your peel segments centered around the continents. And it's not really that much white space. The equator is just as wide as the equator in most rectangular and elliptical projections , so you have just as much longitude/horizontal detail in there - the only thing you're not doing is artificially enlarging the poles and/or adding in latitude/vertical distortion. And in my book, that's a good thing.

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  13. Re:Never had a globe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If anything, this change draws more attention to the "distortion fact" and may ultimately reduce misconceptions going both ways. Good thing right?

    Is it really PC? Or just "stuff that's different than you wish it to be"?

  14. Why limit the solution to 2D maps on paper? by ei4anb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why limit the solution to 2D maps on paper? You can get a much better visualization on a computer, e.g. https://earth.nullschool.net/

  15. scishow by watermark · · Score: 2

    Just watched this scishow the other day. It explains why this type of distortion occurs and the trade-offs when you try to correct it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  16. Mercator straight lines are not great circles! by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

    On the Mercator projection. straight lines map to great circles,

    No! No, no, no, no!

    In the Mercator projection, straight lines do not map to great circles-- the only straight lines that are great circles are meridians and the equator. Plot a great circle route from, say, New York to Berlin. It goes way north of the straight line on a Mercator projection.

    (In fact, there is no possible mapping in which all great circles map to straight lines, nor all straight lines to great circles. That's non-euclidean geometry for you.)

    This, in a nutshell, is exactly why we should stop having Mercator maps be the standard.

    useful for navigation.

    Not!

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    1. Re:Mercator straight lines are not great circles! by PacoSuarez · · Score: 2

      Straight lines in the Mercator projection correspond to paths with constant bearing (a.k.a. rhumbs or loxodromes). These are really useful if you are navigating with a compass.

    2. Re:Mercator straight lines are not great circles! by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      useful for navigation.

      Not!

      Yes. By construction, straight lines on a Mercator map have constant bearing towards magnetic north. That means if you take out your compass, face a given angle with respect to north, and follow it, you make a straight line on the Mercator map. That's extremely useful, probably one of the most useful properties a map can have for navigational purposes (unless you're really really good at doing some rather complicated coordinate transformations).

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  17. Re:Are actual globes wrong? by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 2

    http://www.progonos.com/furuti/MapProj/Normal/ProjInt/projInt.html has some examples of this, looks odd and tends to split countries into pieces when flattened out.

    Anything looks distorted when flattened out from a globe, and a globe would be the best thing to use, but having one for each desk for kids to measure and plot on is infeasible. A single flat projection like Gall-Peters is more useful, but the level of distortion is more jarring than some others.

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  18. The reason Europe in the middle by GuB-42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the reason is not because of Europe itself, you have to look the other side : between Alaska and Russia.
    It is a very convenient place to split the map : it avoids cutting important landmasses in half and the wraparound occurs in the middle of the pacific ocean where there are few things of interest.
    Putting the Americas in the center will split Asia in two, which is a bad thing. We could cut through the Atlantic unless you have good reasons to do so, it is an overall worse solution than cutting through the Pacific..

  19. odd thing I've noticed by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You were likely playing grabass while they tried to teach it. If you had paid attention you would know _all_ maps are distorted. The PC dweebs just prefer one distorted in a different way. I don't believe your class didn't have globes.

    This is a very odd thing I've noticed, and I've see it from both liberals and conservatives: they are unable to conceptualize the idea that other people's experiences may not have been just exactly the same as their own.

    Nice of you to tell me what my grade school was like. If I were a woman, I suppose I'd call your lecturing me about what my grade school classroom was like an example of "mansplaining," but since I'm not, I guess it's just arrogance on your part.

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  20. Re:Never had a globe? by meta-monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it's just retarded to imply that the use of the Mercator projection was intended to "diminish" Africa or South America. Grrrrr those Greenland supremacists, always tryin' to keep the Africans down!

    But everything's gotta be political these days. Even fucking map projections.

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  21. Re:Never had a globe? by Knuckles · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All flat maps will be distorted. The PC dweebs don't teach that 'maps are distorted' they replace the maps with new ones distorted to overemphasise other parts.

    This is a non-issue raised by an idiot who is very bad at geography.

    1. Poll people on the street. Only a tiny minority even among the educated will know about map distortion.

    2. All maps will be distorted, so you need to pick the projection that works best for your needs. The Mercator projection is a good choice when you need to sail across the Atlantic. It is however among the worst choices you could make for teaching people about our earth in a geographical or political sense, for which it has been used. Choosing a better suited projection is the most logical thing one can do.

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  22. Not this again by Solandri · · Score: 2

    I remember my teacher mentioning the controversy over map projections when I was in elementary school in the 1970s.

    The problem isn't the map projections. The problem is people's insistence on believing there is always one and only one best solution. There isn't. Different map projections are best for different applications. I see the same flawed reasoning all the time when people ask me for help buying a computer - "What's the best laptop?" There isn't a single best laptop. There's a best laptop for you, there's a best laptop for me, there's a best laptop for Fred in accounting. But they are all probably different laptops. You have to prioritize what's important for what you want to do, then pick the best solution based on those priorities.

    The same thing happens with election systems. Turns out all methods of voting are flawed in some way.

    1. Re:Not this again by Namarrgon · · Score: 2

      pick the best solution based on those priorities

      Oh, so there is a best solution for school needs?

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  23. Re:Some are more wrong than others by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

    No flat map of the world is perfectly accurate. But some are more accurate than others.

    They're all a compromise. The best you can say about any of them is that it's more accurate in an aspect you just happen to care about.

    they very rarely have the equator in the middle.

    That's not the projection's fault, though. That's the mapmaker's flawed decision. My Mercator map in my school atlas was symmetrical.

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  24. Re:Never had a globe? by epyT-R · · Score: 2

    Yes it is. The PC red flags are all there and quite blatant.

    eg:

    1. abuse of the word 'imperialist'

    The result goes a long way to rewriting the historical and sociopolitical message of the Mercator map, which exaggerates the size of imperialist powers.

    2. use of the word 'decolonize'

    “This is the start of a three-year effort to decolonize the curriculum in our public schools,” said Colin Rose, assistant superintendent of opportunity and achievement gaps for Boston public schools.

    The 'journalist' makes it clear (and supports the fact that) they don't want to replace Mercator because there's a better projection. They want to replace it for ideological reasons.

    3. Most of the article rambles on about social justice instead of geography or cartography.

  25. Re:Hand waiving is lame. by Dishevel · · Score: 2

    It is distorted differently, not less.

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  26. Was Boston that far behind? Or is this propaganda? by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The insinuation that students never saw any map other than the Mercator projection seems unlikely. The implication that the map is some kind of Anglo-Saxon reality distortion field is borderline propaganda. Was there some kind of district-wide rule that teachers had to use the Mercator projection? Was the Boston school district really that screwed-up?

    I went to school in Maryland, and we used Robinson and either Goodes or Boggs (I can't tell the difference). Our social studies teachers had 10 foot tall maps that they could pull down over the chalkboard like a blind. We had a unit where we went over different map projections and had to understand the differences. It is a classic elementary science demonstration to give kids an orange and challenge them to peel it and make it flat, or to take a sheet of paper and wrap it around a ball. Did none of this happen in Boston?

    The article spends several paragraphs slamming the Mercator projection, as though it was news. It has an embedded clip from a fictional television show debating map projections. But this sounds like it is attacking a strawman here. The article presents no evidence to me to indicate that Boston school teachers really only used one horribly stupid map projection, that they didn't use globes, and that they didn't have curriculum to explain map projections. It seems more likely that the school board decided to standardize, and the site is exaggerating it into a civil rights issue to make it newsworthy. The Boston school district official is happy to take credit for a "paradigm shift" which just feeds into the whole exaggeration.

  27. Now with more distortion by pz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Boston Public Schools Map Switch Aims To Amend 500 Years of Distortion

    ... by adding even greater distortion that is entirely motivated by a petty political agenda, rather than scientific accuracy. I read the article, and the quoted motivations are not well-founded (Europe, for example, is not in the center of the maps used in the US, the United States is). The distortion in the propsed map (which, gallingly, is "an internal decision that will not be put up to public approval" or some words to that effect that make the person behind them sound more like a petty dictator who will shout down any dissenting view) is far worse than the traditional Mercator projection. You can see it: South America and Africa look stretched vertically (because they are).

    There are so many, many projections that are scientifically superior. The only reason to select this one is political. Shame on those educators.

    And I had such hope with the momentum building up behind the STEM movement.

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  28. Re:Never had a globe? by rundgong · · Score: 3, Funny

    The only spheres that are now allowed are other shapes that have had the corners chipped away to now be spheres as they always felt that they were spheres on the inside.

    Are you sure? I thought apple had a patent on that.

  29. Re:Never had a globe? by BradleyUffner · · Score: 2

    2. They were, or should have been had they been paying attention, taught about projections in geography class

    But they weren't, or didn't; so we have to deal with reality. Reality says people don't understand map projections, even though they were supposed to learn about them. So the choice is to continue trying the same thing, over and over, again, or try something new.

  30. Think for a second by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The last 50-60 years of education have been committed to presenting 'alternative facts' - white people aren't the most important, the US and Europe aren't the most important and successful, minorities were meaningful to history, Columbus was a fucking asshole, women are important, homosexuals aren't sexual deviants, there is no absolute morality, babies are just chunks of tissue, etc.

    I'm not disputing the accuracy of any of those, but one has to recognize that, as opposed to conventional wisdom at the time, all of those things were being consciously presented as alternative viewpoints to the established narratives.

    So let's not pretend that we haven't been dogmatically acculturated to the presentation and acceptance of alternative truths for most of our lives.

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  31. Sheesh by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    When I was a kid, we learned all the different common projections and how they skew portions or shapes. Greenland was used as an example of how distortion can make accurate maps misleading. Seems that school is trying to put a bandaid on a larger problem: their kids don't know geography.