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Firefox for Linux is Now Netflix Compatible (betanews.com)

Brian Fagioli, writing for BetaNews: For a while, Netflix was not available for traditional Linux-based operating systems, meaning users were unable to enjoy the popular streaming service without booting into Windows. This was due to the company's reliance on Microsoft Silverlight. Since then, Netflix adopted HTML5, and it made Google Chrome and Chromium for Linux capable of playing the videos. Unfortunately, Firefox -- the open source browser choice for many Linux users -- was not compatible. Today this changes, however, as Mozilla's offering is now compatible with Netflix!

71 comments

  1. Boot Windows? What? by subk · · Score: 1, Interesting

    That's utter bullshit. I am no longer a Netflix customer, but for several recent years I was able to view it just fine using Chromium + Widevine. A quick search on the subject will reveal that Windows is not needed. Who writes this shit?

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    1. Re: Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pro-tip: the words "was" and "were" indicate that it's talking about something that was true in the past.

    2. Re: Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to use Chromium and Widevine too, but as a 32-bit user. Firefox still supports 32-bit and it's nice to have a browser with addons that don't require their own individual process. Though lately, Firefox uses waaaaay too much RAM. And of course, Chrome is 64-bit only. But even when it was 32-bit, it crashed my computer constantly after about 10 minutes of video. All really need is Palemoon and Kodi.

  2. Something something DRM... by thegreatbob · · Score: 2

    Anybody have any technical details on why it was not previously possible? My understanding is that it has been possible (at least for a while, possibly since FF49) with the Widevine plugin + spoofing a Chrome user agent.

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    1. Re:Something something DRM... by corychristison · · Score: 2

      I think it's that Netflix no longer forces the FF UserAgent to the sliverlight version.

      Nothing to see here, move along.

    2. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing Netflix supports Mozilla's EME now?

    3. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... What about my blackberry playbook? WHEN WILL THAT WORK?

    4. Re:Something something DRM... by TWX · · Score: 1

      How about never. Does never work for you?

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    5. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has actually worked with Firefox for quite a while now, since Firefox uses the same Widevine CDM as Chrome does (if you want it to).

      The problem is that NetFlix was user-agent sniffing Firefox incorrectly, and it took them all this time to get around to not doing that.

      So, depending on your level of cynicism, they either needed over half a year to thoroughly test their service on Firefox before they felt comfortable officially supporting it, or they just don't give a rat's ass and want to seem like heros for fixing a trivial issue that they themselves created.

    6. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the Firefox + Widevine +Chrome useragent string was a workaround. Netflix now works with Firefox natively without the Widevine plugin.

    7. Re:Something something DRM... by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Current technical reason: Firefox 52 no longer supports sound on any sane Linux system.

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    8. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about never. Does never work for you?

      Well, so far it's been alright, but who knows how I'll feel about that in the future.

    9. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, GPP is right. Since something like version 49, Firefox on Linux has supported the DRM needed to stream Netflix. I've been doing it since then, with just a user agent change. Just now I went in and deactivated that, and now Netflix streams without it.

    10. Re:Something something DRM... by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Possible, but difficult. I could never get Netflix and HBO Go to work at the same time. :(

    11. Re:Something something DRM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you comprehend? That's what this announcement is about. You no longer have to load a third party plugin like Widevine + user agent change to view Netflix with Firefox on Linux. Netflix supports Firefox's EME natively now. Jesus, just go to Netflex and read their announcement dumb ass.

  3. And ARM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it work on ARM? On Raspbian on a Raspberry Pi?

    1. Re:And ARM? by TWX · · Score: 1

      Pshaw. Call me when it works on my Palm TX.

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    2. Re:And ARM? by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Let me know when it works in Aweb on my Amiga 4000.

    3. Re:And ARM? by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      You can extract the wide-vine extension from something running chome os and then change your agent string...

      it'll run but it's stupid slow even on the pi3

  4. Re:Boot Windows? What? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Here's a quick rewrite:

    Until now, Netflix video could not be watched using Firefox on Linux without some monkeying around. Now it can. Enjoy!

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  5. This is why by jwymanm · · Score: 2, Informative

    The new installer script for latest Firefox fixed this issue and that pesky having plugins problem:
    #!/bin/sh
    ln -s /usr/bin/google-chrome /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox

    1. Re:This is why by evolutionary · · Score: 1

      In other words, it wasn't a priority for Firefox to address. Wonder if the priorities shifted, or whether it was something to do now that they have time..

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    2. Re:This is why by roca · · Score: 4, Informative

      Firefox has been ready for a while. The problem was Netflix sniffing the Linux user-agent and going down the Silverlight path. Now Netflix has fixed that.

      One of the many things that's hard about building a browser is taking the blame for stuff like this.

  6. ARM Versions by phorm · · Score: 2

    Would this work for an ARM version of Firefox (e.g. so it could be run on a Raspberry Pi) ?

    1. Re:ARM Versions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the player is x86 only.

    2. Re:ARM Versions by phorm · · Score: 1

      What "player" is this?

    3. Re:ARM Versions by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      No. This is 100% reliant upon DRM plugins called CDMs (Content Decryption Modules) that are OS, browser and architecture dependent. You will never be able to use this on any architecture they don't explicitly allow.

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    4. Re:ARM Versions by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      What "player" is this?

      Probably the Widevine CDM which is what Chrome and Chromium uses. It doesn't as much play as decode.

  7. YAY! by jediborg · · Score: 2

    No longer must i use google chrome on my linux laptop to watch netflix!!! Now using a linux OS for my home media server makes sense, now that it can download movies/tv shows and play them using the builtin free software bittorent client, and VLC, it can also play netflix and youtube on a television as well. Now the only thing i need windows for is my gaming machine.

    until SteamOS finally catches on

  8. Netflicks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People still pay for that stuff? Why?

    You do know there are streaming sites out there which remove all the commercials, offer closed captioning, and a selectable quality from 360p-1080p.

    Did I mention it's free?

    This is sort of like saying that detroit river water is now available for linux users, we never really wanted it to begin with.

    1. Re:Netflicks? by grcumb · · Score: 1

      People still pay for that stuff? Why?

      You do know there are streaming sites out there which remove all the commercials, offer closed captioning, and a selectable quality from 360p-1080p.

      I would be totally cool with a working Netflix plugin for my linux-based Kodi installation. I have no problem handing Netflix a tenner every month just to get reliable access to the content they host.

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  9. 1080P? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it now support 1080P in the HTML5 DRM Netflix uses or are we still stuck with 720P like in Chrome.

    1. Re:1080P? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll take 720P over having to run Windows any day.

  10. Re:Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering the same thing.
    Author is a dumbass. I've been using Google Chrome for Netflix since forever, it works just fine.

  11. Re: Boot Windows? What? by thundercattt · · Score: 1

    Not everyone uses teh Goole Chrome. Iceweasel was the way to go. Now they got it working, I no longer have an account due to shrinking library of classics.

  12. Why not just write an application. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do they insist upon Netflix being a web site? Do they think anyone out there would say "well, if it were a web site I would try it out, but I don't trust Netflix enough to install an application?" Writing a portable application that has to play only one type of video encoding should not be a difficult problem to solve, so it isn't as if they're relying upon a plug-in to solve a difficult problem.

    They've already written apps for PS4, XBOX, Wii, etc. Why no app for PC? Noting about Netflix is website-like, and so keeping it in a web browser is ridiculous.

    1. Re:Why not just write an application. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. One of the main reasons I don't have netflix is that the experience of playing video in a browser is shit.

    2. Re:Why not just write an application. by iampiti · · Score: 2

      It depends on the purpose of the application, performance requeriments, etc but I usually prefer websites to applications. On something like Netflix I certainly prefer a website. The greatest advantage is that it works everywhere there's a browser (a few pretty specific browsers in this case).
      Anyway, what I really hate is things that could perfectly be delivered through the web to force you to access the content through an app only. I have to little free room on my phone I don't need an app for every website I could conceivably want to visit

    3. Re:Why not just write an application. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL you think Netflix would make an App for Linux??

    4. Re:Why not just write an application. by alantus · · Score: 2

      And while they're at it, an officially supported Netflix addon for Kodi would be great too!

    5. Re:Why not just write an application. by jbr439 · · Score: 1

      And while they're at it, an officially supported Netflix addon for Kodi would be great too!

      It could not come soon enough.

  13. Re: The fucking Muslims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's certainty very uncivilised not doing this with a drone.

  14. NO MORE "BetaNews" SUBMISSIONS, PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can the editors here please stop using submissions that link to this "BetaNews" site?

    There is a submission linking to "BetaNews" almost every day!

    Shit, there were even two of them back on March 6th!

    This "BrianFagioli" character is associated with several of the recent submissions. Does he benefit in some way from this publicity that Slashdot is giving this "BetaNews" site?

    Seriously, this is feeling a lot like the Bennett Haselton days.

    If I want to read "BetaNews" articles every day, I'll just go read their goddamn site instead of coming to Slashdot!

    1. Re:NO MORE "BetaNews" SUBMISSIONS, PLEASE! by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

      This "BrianFagioli" character is associated with several of the recent submissions. Does he benefit in some way from this publicity that Slashdot is giving this "BetaNews" site?

      This is Slashdot. No one actually reads the articles.

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  15. Well this is great news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) I don't ever want to use netfix
    2) I stopped using firefox last week

    1. Re:Well this is great news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whooptie fucking do asshole

  16. Web app by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    My TV's Netflix app simply wraps a customized browser loading a local web app which uses ajax to talk with netflix. Then they used some sort of browser plug in or modification to get to whatever video library the device supported.

    Why wouldn't netflix use a similar approach for all it's apps from toaster to xbox??

    You can make a local web app that would fool almost anybody with a properly customized browser (using local OS library means it wouldn't take much ram since it's likely loaded anyhow.)

    Less development and support related issues; every device has some working browser library and video decoder if hardware support is available.

  17. It's about damned time by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    I recall using Ubuntu 12.04 and had to do agent switchers, install a bunch of stuff just to watch Netflix videos.

  18. Doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried this on two different computers running Linux with the latest version of Firefox installed. The Widevine add-on is in place. On both computers I tried accessing Netflix videos with Firefox's default user-agent and with alternative agents, like Chrome's. Firefox failed in every test to play video. Usually I just got an error telling me to install Firefox. Once I managed to get a player up on the screen, but the video never started, it just sat at 0:00 and stalled. Chrome plays Netflix fine on both computers.

    Not at all impressed with this level of "support" for Firefox.

  19. Re:Boot Windows? What? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    I'm an admin and I don't have a problem tinkering around with Linux. But when I run into this kind of crap that has to be done because company X refuses to do things in a standard way, I tend to just go back to Windows 7 for awhile and wait until the issue is taken care of in a better way by someone.

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  20. How come html5 but not on firefox? by mugurel · · Score: 1

    If netflix has been using html5 video rather than silverlight, why didn't this work on firefox earlier? Can you imagine I even read TFA to find out, to no avail.

    1. Re:How come html5 but not on firefox? by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 1

      HTML 5 video has many mechanisms to restrict media access based on client properties. For example, there is a robustness parameter which implementations are expected to evaluate according to their perceived ability to prevent user-controlled access to content.

      I suspect that Widevine (the DRM plugin used by Firefox) did not provide a robustness level on Linux which Netflix was comfortable with. To a degree, this is still ongoing. I think the maximum resolution you can get on Linux still is 720p, while Windows will go to at 1080p at least.

    2. Re:How come html5 but not on firefox? by roca · · Score: 1

      Because of user-agent sniffing by Netflix.

  21. Been doing this for months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firefox has had the capability for months. You just had to spoof your user agent to look like chrome on Linux to get it to work. TBH, I've had more problems on iOS with Netflix than I did with unsupported Firefox on Linux :P

  22. Only SD though. by agoodm · · Score: 1

    I just tried Netflix in Chrome and Firefox on Ubuntu. It works but only in standard def for me. Amazon prime video was similar, it worked but only SD. I've cancelled both subscriptions. I dont get why they place these restrictions; theyre inconveniencing paying customers whilst not preventing the ripping of the content. Loose loose situation?!

    1. Re:Only SD though. by gravewax · · Score: 1

      because it is the distributers not Netflix that set the requirements for what security/DRM mechanisms you need to support for HD. If google or Mozilla implement something acceptable to the content providers then Netflix can provide it. Netflix is the only the middle man in this situation.

    2. Re: Only SD though. by agoodm · · Score: 2

      Who is the middle man in this though when I'm watching Netflix original content? I was allowed much higher data rates on a Windows box.

  23. Very simple adjustment on Netflix part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google's Widevine has been available in Firefox on all platforms for some time. It's just Netflix when recognizing Linux as the OS did not allow Firefox to use Widevine in Linux. Sort of a Netflix issue I guess because Firefox worked great in Mac OS or Windows. I typically used Chrome in Ubuntu anyway because Firefox was so slow on Ubuntu. Glad this minor glitch is fixed although most using Firefox found a work around with the browser agent add on and spoofed Firefox as Chrome.

  24. Re:Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if they could just add support for alsa we could listen to it as well.

  25. Bullshit! by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    They call it "plugin free" but then what the fuck are Content Decryption Modules? I'll tell you what they are, they are the OS, platform and architecture dependent DRM plugins that Firefox uses. Try putting Firefox on your Raspberry Pi and you'll see it will not work.

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    1. Re:Bullshit! by phorm · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I was wondering about. I would absolutely love if this allowed it to work on a PI, but if there's still some dependency on a module that isn't available on ARM, it's probably a no-go.

      Then again, I've heard of people getting it to work on Chromium by grabbing bits and pieces from a Chromebook (which can play Netflix), so it's still possible AFAIK.

      I'm actually OK with DRM modules so long as they follow a known, open standard (and yes, this can be done, much like encryption). Anything else is "security" by obscurity anyhow.

  26. Re:Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I watch Netflix on my RasPi2 , running ARMArch Linux, and Chromium with a set specific 'browser' identification.

    Netflix website occasionally crashes during viewing, but 'Reload' and keep watching...

  27. HBO GO did this some time ago by adam_rotaru · · Score: 1

    HBO's GO service in Central Europe was similar: worked only in Chrome on Linux, but since about a month it's working with Firefox on Linux too (HTML5-based).

  28. Still wont re-subscribe by Joshs922 · · Score: 1

    This is good news, no doubt, and long overdue.. I mean, cumon, really? Microsoft Silverlight required? What was up with that anyway? We still won't resubscribe after the "Dear White People" debacle though. We're getting our streaming stuff elsewhere.

  29. Re:Boot Windows? What? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    You've made Mary Pickford very sad...

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  30. One Streaming Service Down by Master+Moose · · Score: 1

    99% still inhibited by ridiculous artificial restrictions

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  31. EME by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    If I understand correctly, it uses a binary-blob provided, architecture-dependant DRM called CDM

    Would EME be an implemented standard, that restriction would be lifted. DRM in a W3C standard may have some good points, after all.

  32. Re: Boot Windows? What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I just tend to ignore that company instead of putting upnwith their BS.

  33. hahaha welcome to 10 years ago linux tards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    loling at your lifes dudes.