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Feds: We're Pulling Data From 100 Phones Seized During Trump Inauguration (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In new filings, prosecutors told a court in Washington, DC that within the coming weeks, they expect to extract all data from the seized cellphones of more than 100 allegedly violent protesters arrested during the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Prosecutors also said that this search is validated by recently issued warrants. The court filing, which was first reported Wednesday by BuzzFeed News, states that approximately half of the protestors prosecuted with rioting or inciting a riot had their phones taken by authorities. Prosecutors hope to uncover any evidence relevant to the case. Under normal judicial procedures, the feds have vowed to share such data with defense attorneys and to delete all irrelevant data. "All of the Rioter Cell Phones were locked, which requires more time-sensitive efforts to try to obtain the data," Jennifer Kerkhoff, an assistant United States attorney, wrote. Such phone extraction is common by law enforcement nationwide using hardware and software created by Cellebrite and other similar firms. Pulling data off phones is likely more difficult under fully updated iPhones and Android devices.
They confiscated all of their diaries. One of them didn't get confiscated though, and became a best seller.
...if you're going to a protest, bring a burner phone. Bonus points if you set the wallpaper to goatse.
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became violent protestors during his inauguration? WTF did the man even say?
Feds gain access to cell phones which may provide evidence of Trump's link to Russian election hacking
-CNN
All of the Rioter Cell Phones were locked, which requires more time-sensitive efforts to try to obtain the data," Jennifer Kerkhoff, an assistant United States attorney, wrote.
Every last one of the seized phones were locked? That seems hardly representative of the general population, although I suppose "violent protesters" may indeed be more security conscious.
Jennifer Kerkhoff. J. Kerkhoff. I mean, no surprise in her career selection of prosecuting attorney after what must've been some pretty tough early years in school.
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Didn't Motorola make one with that name?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Can we say RICO?
If they can establish the violence was planned and coordinated, how many years is that?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug.
Actually, what has recently been revealed is that no violent robbery occurred, and the police released an edited video just to perpetuate their lies.
What we did learn, however, is that the Department of Justice was able to present a copious report showing the level of abuses inflicted upon the citizens of Ferguson due to a city government that was not accountable to the people, and a police department that actually induced riots by its hardline stance of oppression.
Another case involved the riots in Baltimore during 2015.
You mean after the murder of Freddie Gray by the thugs in blue?
Another police department with documented abuses of the public.
Add in the NYPD, the LAPD, Chicago PD, Cincinnati, that South Carolina shooting, and the abuses in the prison system, and you start to think that maybe law enforcement has a severe problem with how it treats the people it is supposed to serve and protect.
Oh well, at least the worst Sheriff in America was voted out of office. Of course, now we have another one, who insists that pregnant inmates remain handcuffed while giving birth. Don't you feel wonderful about that?
Maybe the problem isn't where you think it is.
The one saying she would get on her knees if you voted the way she wanted was not Trump
Side note: Liberals are so stupid Snopes had to actually cover this item to explain it was not a real offer....
Snopes is going soft though; no coverage of the veracity on her level of eye contact or swallowing.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Setting fires to cars and smashing windows is not a "protest".
You would think criminals would already know to use burner phones...
But then how would these gangsters be able to adequately send a selfie to Instagram in front of a smashed up store or burning vehicle? The cameras on burner phones suck, not to mention it would't have your Starbucks card loaded.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
DC Police have been going though all the available tape, identifying the protesters that broke the law then pressing felony charges.
My guess is they are going to grab all the pictures and video off their phones to see if they can ID a few more folks to charge and amass more evidence for the cases they have already charged..
My advice is.... If you intend to go protest, don't break the law.... If you choose to ignore my advice, I suggest you not take photos and videos of the proceedings and leave your electronic devices (Cell phones, tablets, cameras...) at home. Remember, if you get arrested and they think they have probable cause, they are going to be given a warrant to search your stuff and there won't be much you can do about it.
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Let em stew. The more disconnected from reality they become the better.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
There are companies that make "plain" cell phones that do nothing but send and receive calls.
They are mostly marketed to people who want "a land line in their pocket." One even advertises "it has dial tone!" (oooh, ahhh, shiney!).
If the feds seize a phone like this, all they will get is the electronic serial number an, consequently, your phone number and whatever they can get with that information. They won't get anything else useful of the phone itself.
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The Ferguson case is particularly absurd, because there was absolutely no basis for the protests to begin with. A thug violently attacked a police officer who was investigating a violent robbery perpetrated by that thug.
Actually, what has recently been revealed is that no violent robbery occurred, and the police released an edited video just to perpetuate their lies.
What we did learn, however, is that the Department of Justice was able to present a copious report showing the level of abuses inflicted upon the citizens of Ferguson due to a city government that was not accountable to the people, and a police department that actually induced riots by its hardline stance of oppression.
No, that's no what "we learned."
What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)
The cops didn't "edit the video to make it look bad", they edited the video to leave out endless hours of pointless footage of a store which had nothing to do with the case at hand. But the recently revealed video is just another bit of proof that his Mother, and "the community", were absolutely 100% full of shit when they claimed he was "just an innocent little boy doing nothing wrong."
The guy was selling weed, and while I don't think that should be a crime, it IS a crime. And if he'd have tried walking on the sidewalk like a normal person, instead of strolling down the middle of the road being a dick about it, that Cop may have very well ignored him completely.
I've lived in St. Louis, and lived there during the whole Ferguson affair. The Ferguson cops are pieces of shit. But don't buy the "liberal media" story of what actually happened, because it's about 90% bullshit. I had two co-workers (yes, black) who lived right near where the rioting was, and they had to take time off work so they could stay home and make sure nobody robbed their apartments. There was a shit-load of looting going on, far more than the news reported, and most of the people victimized were the poor, black residents of the area.
Hell, the crowds even burned down the wrong gas station at one point, and there were several locally owned shops that got torched as well.
I don't know what 'violently protesting' means
I don't either. The thing is our mutual ignorance of the meaning of that bit of media speak isn't terribly relevant. The rioters have actually been charged with crimes; Felony Rioting, specifically. Here is the actual statute: https://beta.code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/code/sections/22-1322.html.
And perhaps the most relevant part of that is:
If in the course and as a result of a riot a person suffers serious bodily harm or there is property damage in excess of $5,000, every person who willfully incited or urged others to engage in the riot shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than the amount set forth in 22-3571.01, or both.
So any riotous trustafarian that texted any of their follows in a manner than that appears to incite or urge is a felon. Just yelling or holding a sign can get you there; all the prosecutor needs is some evidence. That's where all the phones come in.
Some folks got use to having their way with no push back under Obama. As these rioters and others (Dakota Access squatters, for instance) are learning, the worm has turned. The next Ferguson is going to be very different.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Trump LOST the election.
Within the long established electoral system of the United States of America, there is just one election that matters when it comes to selecting a president and a vice president: the votes cast by the electors of the United States Electoral College.
In 2016, Donald J. Trump received 304 of the electoral votes. His main opponent received only 227. Thus Trump won the election.
The popular vote is pretty much irrelevant.
You're a moron. Trump won the election and was elected to the office of President of the United States of America by the electors.
Please present any evidence to the contrary.
From:
Friday, January 20, 2017 The Metropolitan Police Department announced an arrest has been made in a Conspiracy to Commit an Assault offense that occurred in the 500 block of 14th Street, Northwest. After a thorough investigation, it was determined that several individuals made plans to disrupt inauguration activities in an unlawful way. On Thursday, January 19, 2017, pursuant to a DC Superior Court arrest warrant, 34-year-old Scott Ryan Charney of Northwest, DC, was arrested in the area of 14th and Newton Streets, Northwest, and charged with Conspiracy to Commit an Assault. This investigation is ongoing. There are other individuals involved in the conspiracy, and they are still outstanding.
This was in connection with the extremist group DisruptJ20, who were caught on tape and exposed plotting to chain DC metro trains and disrupt Trump's inaugural party. Seems like there is a good chance that evidence of this conspiracy will be searched for on these confiscated phones.
The people arrested didn't seem to be the deluge of selfie taking people. The recommendation should be to simply not be violent at a protest so that you are not arrested, which results in the confiscation of your phone (and generally a good chuck of cash, and perhaps anal virginity).
I'm probably one of the most pro Free Speech people you will ever meet. Free Speech does not include any form of violence. See the Non Aggression Principle
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
But but but those people are poor peons so we don't give a fuck about them.
It's like the big heroin epidemic. All the rich white people didn't give a shit, because it was an inner city poor black people problem. Until their rich spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy heroin. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was black people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.
We have a senator in PA who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a white people problem now and it affected his household.
Fucking hypocrites.
Just so you see how ridiculous your rants look:
But but but those people are poor white peons so we don't give a fuck about them.
It's like the big drug epidemic. All the black people didn't give a shit, because it was an Appalachian poor white people problem. Until their spoiled children starting driving to inner cities to buy crack. Now it's an "epidemic". No one called it an epidemic when it was white people dying or getting high. They called it natural selection.
We have a Mayor in DC who was a hard ass on all drug offenses. A no nonsense approach. His son recently OD'd and died. Now all of a sudden he wants to fund rehab centers and try to solve this "epidemic". Now he wants to help because it's a black people problem now and it affected his household.
All lives matter, Fucking hypocrites - only Black Lives Matter.
I really do not see that much of an issue with this.
The government got a warrant to search the electronic devices. These devices were seized at the time of arrest. Rather than require the owners to unlock the phones - potentially violating our protected right against self-incrimination - they are using third-party software to hack the devices. The government intends - admittedly, as legally required - to share all gathered information with the defense lawyers - and are pledging to delete any information not relevant to the case.
You can make the argument that some of the people arrested during the riots are innocent. That may be true, but irrelevant to the issue at hand: that the government is searching these devices. You might argue that the government may use the information gleaned from the devices in ways that are not covered by the warrant, and that is a legitimate worry but there is no evidence that is happening. But given that these people were arrested, we should expect the prosecutors to use all available legal means to build a case against the defendants. That they are searching the phones is as much a story if the police had gotten a warrant to seize the defendants diaries (which is to say, not much of a story) .
The fact is, there were apparently riots during the inauguration. I am no supporter of Trump but that's just shameful; there's nothing wrong with assembly and protest but some people went beyond that. People were arrested and honestly I would expect the government to try them for their actions. There is a lot I find worrisome about Trump's government, but this is not one of them; this is a case where everything seems to be done legitimately and by-the-book.
Obviously an organized protest. Should be interesting.
You have the worst case of Trump Derangement Syndrome of anyone on /., just so you know. For your own mental health, become less emotionally involved in all this before you have a breakdown.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Berkley riots, 0 arrests. The amount of people arrested for rioting in DC was tiny compared to the amount of people committing violent acts. The same can be said for virtually all of the leftist rioters, where politicians told law enforcement to stand down at all costs. Plenty of videos from all of those selfie grabbers prove my point and disprove your claim of corrupt law enforcers wading through crowds making false claims.
You are being intellectually and factually dishonest. Will you next start claiming "hands up don't shoot" was real and chanting BLM chants? Trayvon Martin was just an 8 year old like the pictures they put on the news, and Zimmerman was a mean white guy? Fucktard...
So by your own admission be want harming anyone, as was involved in the distribution of good times and chill. What was your point again? Bear in mind that you don't have a valid one before answering.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
No, Trump won. You're just butt-hurt because California doesn't get to decide who the president is for the rest of the United States. You seem to forget that the US is really 50 countries that decided to form a union. The Electoral College was set up to make sure one state can't exert undue influence over the rest of the US. While Clinton got more in the popular vote due to rabid idiots in a few blue states, the majority of the US did not want her ass in office.
Gary Johnson didn't win but you don't see me trying to alter reality to make it seem like he did and it's all a big conspiracy by neo-nazi, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, islamophobic racists.
Perhaps the DNC shouldn't have screwed Bernie?
What we learned was that he probably wasn't actually stealing from the store, but rather had come back in after earlier conducting an illegal Drug Transaction, and the clerk let him walk out with a pack of cigars without paying for them. (Cutting open a cigar and rolling a joint with it is called making a "blunt", just FYI, and is most likely what he wanted them for.)
Umm. No, that's not what happened. The only time he left the store with the cigars, he strong armed the clerk on the way out the door.
I wonder why that is all you remember?
Maybe not.
Your time gets wasted a lot as well answering questions.
As an (old) example Steve Jackson Games employees had a lot of trouble over the "GURPS Cyberpunk" game rules after a Secret Service raid despite it being extremely obvious fantasy/SF (1990, so the computer you are using today would have been wild SF let alone cyberpunk stuff).
http://www.sjgames.com/SS/
Your obvious fabrication, selectively quoted, could end up resulting in serious prison time for you if it looks like somebody can get a promotion for catching conspiritators.
Thinking about it as if you are going to be dealing with an ideal justice system is probably a very bad idea. I'd say expect less comic book more Kafka (or similar eastern european writer describing a corrupt justice system).
But that's quite different than just crying "We've been lied too! It never happened!". If you have serious doubts, that's fine. State the doubts, state which specific claims you find doubtful, state, how to investigate the claims and which result would you convince that the claims are actually true. Everything else is just denial, as Henri Poincaré rightfully said: "To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection."
They are a bunch of welfare leeching Leftist scumbags who think that the way to prove they are right is by physically attacking anybody who disagrees with them, and that's exactly what is happening now on a weekly basis in the U.S., where anybody who goes to a pro Trump rally/public meeting is at risk of being physically assaulted by the new brownshirts. It proves they are wrong. Anybody who has to silence people who disagree with them is openly admitting that they know they are wrong, and can't even debate their own position. Anybody who uses the word "racist" is the same.
Nah, I don't think the Republicans will show up, they don't believe in Science.
G-d visits Mitch McConnell in the Garden of Eden
G-d: Mitch, how come my apple is still on the Tree of Knowledge?
Mitch: No Republican wants to be like Einstein, we heard he’s not like us.
G-d: What? Jewish?
Mitch: No, a scientist.
If you think that it wasn't being torn in half well before Trump, think more.
Sure, it was. Only gradually. This is all-at-once. It's not necessary to rip off the bandage. You soak it a little, and then it comes right off.
The bottom line is that there is a lot of bipartisan support for policies that screw us all
Trump is substantively different, and if you can't see that, I have to wonder if you're spending your free time ironing your brown shirt.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
You can't take the sky from him?
Shirt, not coat. Big difference.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I doubt there were that many at Trump's inauguration.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
... as you don't care about anybody's life. Your only purpose was ridicule and disdain.
I have great disdain for the decline of the middle class since I have kids and feel, backed up by many statistics, that their world will be much worse than mine. I have I have great disdain for special privileges for anyone - me included. I certainly would disagree that I don't care about anybody's life. Parents rarely don't care about the world their kids will inherit, though you could make a case that the baby boomers are close. If you want to point out that I ridicule BLM you would be correct. That movement is artificially created as a means to keep the 99% arguing among themselves while the 1% steal ever more IMHO.
If this is truly the "perspective of conservatives", then from the perspective of this moderate Independent, you're all fucking insane, truly living in a fiction of your own creation. Let's examine:
"mountains of snark, arrogance, and sarcasm"? Seriously?
"labelled any opponent of his policies a racist" Fucking seriously? What fucking planet are you living on and where do they keep your meds?
This comment is my opinion and does not represent an official position of Donald Trump or others I do not work for
That is the textbook definition of robbery.