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Sea Ice Extent Sinks To Record Lows At Both Poles (sciencedaily.com)
According to NASA, Arctic sea ice appears to have reached on March 7 a record low wintertime maximum extent. On the opposite side of the planet, Antartica ice hit its lowest extent ever recorded by satellites (since satellites began measuring sea ice in 1979) on March 3 at the end of summer in the Southern Hemisphere. Science Daily reports: Total polar sea ice covered 6.26 million square miles (16.21 million square kilometers), which is 790,000 square miles (2 million square kilometers) less than the average global minimum extent for 1981-2010 -- the equivalent of having lost a chunk of sea ice larger than Mexico. The ice floating on top of the Arctic Ocean and surrounding seas shrinks in a seasonal cycle from mid-March until mid-September. As the Arctic temperatures drop in the autumn and winter, the ice cover grows again until it reaches its yearly maximum extent, typically in March. The ring of sea ice around the Antarctic continent behaves in a similar manner, with the calendar flipped: it usually reaches its maximum in September and its minimum in February. This winter, a combination of warmer-than-average temperatures, winds unfavorable to ice expansion, and a series of storms halted sea ice growth in the Arctic. This year's maximum extent, reached on March 7 at 5.57 million square miles (14.42 million square kilometers), is 37,000 square miles (97,00 square kilometers) below the previous record low, which occurred in 2015, and 471,000 square miles (1.22 million square kilometers) smaller than the average maximum extent for 1981-2010.
I'll be dead before this becomes a huge problem, so I don't care.
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The warmer it gets here, the better.
If we can just raise the temperature enough to melt the ice in Antarctica, it will become habitable year-round. It could then be opened up for real estate development. Apartment complexes, strip malls, industrial parks...the possibilities are mind-boggling.
It would also be a great place for all the world's refugees to go and start a new life. Global Warming could turn out to be that best thing to happen to humanity in a long time.
My interest levels of sea ice have gotten to an all time record low as well.
Yes, climate change is a thing. Yes it's gonna get worse before it gets better. I'm already braced for record breaking climate based phenomena thanks.
Kiribati is going underwater. Does anyone else care? *sigh*
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
Drill baby, Drill!
You usually see more of these stories in July, which is the climate hysterics high season.
Gee, I wonder how much sea ice there was in the Medieval Warm Period.
You mean this has happened before? Oh noes!
The thing we need to remember is that this has happened before, during the so-called "Medieval Warm Period". This global rise in temperatures happened between 950 AD and 1250 AD, which is kind of a problem because it means that the trendy explanation of post-Industrial Revolution human pollution being the cause of this rise in temperatures can't be used. So it tends to be downplayed today because, well, you can't really justify lucrative (for governments; awful for everybody else) carbon taxes when it's solar activity, decreased volcanic activity, or changes to wind circulation patterns that are responsible for the increased temperatures.
What angers these experts more is that humanity actually did quite well during this period of time. These higher temperatures allowed Europe, for example, to flourish agriculturally, which allowed for accelerated social development. The Norse were able to navigate to places like Iceland, Greenland, and even to the east coast of North America during this time. It was thanks to these temperature changes that Europe exited the so-called "Dark Ages" after the fall of the Roman Empire, and was set on the path of the Reformation, the Enlightenment, the Industrial Revolution, and today's modern society.
Of course, it wasn't just Europeans who benefited. There was also significant social growth in places as diverse as South America, Central America, Japan, South-East Asia, and India.
So we shouldn't fear temperature increases. Historically, they have been what has allowed societies around the globe to accelerate their development and to progress to new heights both technologically and socially.
Actually, the sea ice extent was LOWER in 2006, for NASA's own data. Further, this years ice extent is roughly equivalent to a couple years, over the past decade. What's happening hear is that several thousand people whom rely on the climate change scam, for their paycheck, are ramping up the BS so they can remain on the gravy train.... Here's the graph of the MASIE data.... feel like a real scientist, review it for yourself! https://realclimatescience.com...
global cooling.
According to NASA
Didn't they already get told they weren't allowed to gather let alone publish this sort of data?
Someone is getting sacked. I'm assuming there is going to be some kind of equivalent of the gulag soon for the people who persist in producing unapproved data.
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20,000 years ago glaciers 1 or 2 miles thick used to cover places like Chicago and Toronto. There were maybe 1 *MILLION* human beings on the planet, and CO2 was half its present level. Notwithstanding that, the large glaciers mostly disappeared, temperatures went up 8 degrees C, and sea levels went up over 100 metres. That was *NOT* due to billions of people running around in CO2-spewing SUVs.
Fast forward to today. Alarmists are freaking out over the disappearance of a couple of metres of polar sea ice, and a temperature rise of 1 or 2 degrees, and a sea-level rise of a few centimetres in the next century. They aren't really freaking out. It's just a flimsy excuse by the lib-left for bigger government.
I'm not repeating myself
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What is up with all the anti science trolls today? The crowd in here needs to go to voat.co where you all can continue your circle jerk.
Ivar Giaever (nobel prize winner in physics):
Nobel Laureate Ivar Giaever Quits Physics Group over Stand on Global Warming
The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period.
I resigned from the society in 2011. First: nothing in science is incontrovertible. Second: the âoemeasuredâ average temperature increase in 100 years or so, is 0.8 Kelvin. Third: since the Physical Society claim it has become warmer, why is everything better than before? Forth: the maximum average temperature ever measured was in 1998, 17 years ago. When will we stop wasting money on alternative energy?
Nice try at reality denial, but experts know more than laymen.
Are you really so shit at what you do that you think everyone else is just as good at what you do? No? Then have you thought that other professionals may be better at what they do than others who have never attempted to do their jobs?
The top four comments as I write this are replies to those looking at the bright side, claiming disinterest, or arguing against the observation or its significance.
This is on slashdot. This isn't some dopey AM radio comment forum.
That's .. concerning. :(
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We get these scare stories every year, yet it froze back to 1990s levels recently. Yawn.
You know, a thought just occurred to me.
If people can at least agree that climate change is happening (man-caused or otherwise), can we not also agree that some form of mitigation is necessary? It's not as if climate change is an unheard of thing on our planet. That's not even the issue.
Humans are unique in that we can modify an environment to suit us, but that doesn't make us any less dependant on the other species on this planet, and so it is *still* in our best interests to keep things on as much an even keel as possible.
Species evolve slowly over time. As conditions change, animals *will* evolve. But if conditions change too quickly, then there isn't enough time to adapt and species die. So we don't necessarily need to stop it... only slow it down as much as we can so that everything else can keep up and we don't risk getting ourselves taken out in the process.
This of course presumes one a) understands evolution, b) understands that climate *will* change and c) gives a shit about things beside short-term financial gain.
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The poles are warming cause that's where sailboating yeomanry sink so many drooling progressive Trotsy-ite warmist sluts. Adds up, those descriptives ... like specific heats. glubglubglub and aloha bitch. Another 100 million years and the bodies turn to coal ... but sour-faced coal that smokes white.
We just ended a period of a global maximum, which, started in the early 1900's, ending in the 1990's. We have been sliding into another solar minimum. The last one, called the Dalton Minimum, started in the 1700's to early 1800's. The Maunder Minimum, caused the Hudson river to freeze, the Thames River to freeze...the period was known as the little ice age, couple volcanoes burst at the same period of low sun output, which didn't help either. Some called it "no summer" weather. Ice might be dissipating, but it will come back big time
So, if this ice at both of the poles is shrinking, just where is it going to? Are there massive rises in the oceans with the corresponding flooding of all coastal cities? Somehow I seemed to have missed this in the article and in the recent news cycles.
Comrad Trump will shut down the satellites that tell libertard lies.
And how much has sea level increased with this loss? Are we still measuring it in tens of feet?
No more burning fossil fuels. Stop doing it. Do nothing to burn them. End the activity of burning fossil fuels. Nothing is what we ARE NOT doing. We're still making the fucking thing worse. "Do nothing" *IS AN IMPROVEMENT WE ARE NOT TAKING*.
Everyone is always so down on Global Warming. Why doesn't anyone ever look on the bright side of things? After all, once the icecaps and glaciers all melt, think of how much better the world will be: 1) Florida will be completely underwater. Not just Miami, but the "Florida Man" parts too. 2) So will large chunks of the Middle East (though admittedly they'll probably be a bit more worried about the heat than that). 3) Lots of currently undervalued inland property will become valuable beachfront areas. And without having to fire nuclear missiles at the San Andreas a la Superman! 4) Huge swathes of inhospitably cold Canadian land will be sunny, warm, and liveable, which will be good news for those of us fleeing the future American hellscape. 5) Make the Great Lakes Great Again - there will be a new Great Lake, right about where Montreal currently is. (French Canadians underwater? Bonus!) Sure, there will be some downsides. The Netherlands will wind up completely underwater, though I'm sure they can build a wall to keep the North Sea out, since they've been doing it for decades already. I know a guy, he's very big on building Walls (big, classy ones), maybe I can send him over there. Install some tidal power generation, and they can even make the North Sea pay for it, too!
Another early win for the Trump presidency. Make Oceans Great Again!
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I'll see your Nobel laureate, and raise you 36 Nobel laureates who all say Giaver is completely wrong about the climate, since it's not his field.
In fact he said so himself - he skimmed a few blogs then decided he knew better than climatologists who have studied it for decades:
"I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned."
Meanwhile the next satellite in the series has been canceled.
The scientists will try to use other kinds sensors to maintain the continuity of the data if they have to; but that will just give the deniers another excuse for ignoring reality.
This link http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2017/03/another-warm-month-in-the-arctic/ will take you to the right page; unfortunately they don't have the needed anchor links on the page to direct you to the right paragraph. -- Search for: "Continuity of the sea ice record" without the quotes.
It's wonderful. First the head of the EPA says there isn't enough evidence of AGW to support doing anything, then his boss (proposes) killing the efforts to get more evidence.
Sea level rise is the ONLY fucking issue for now.
Because to stop it, the only possible intervention is to uild the biggest fucking dams in the hardest fucking places to stop the glaciers melting.
And they need time to plan and build, and they will cost a SHITLOAD. And of course, no one's going to pay.
Not you driving your SUV to the shops. Not the coal companies, not the oil companies, not the executives, and the world's governments have no way to assign the astronomical costs.
http://www.victoria.ac.nz/antarctic/about/events/s-t-lee-lecture/s.t.-lee-lecture-2016
It's a shitty recording, and Microsoft Windows features as a major culprit in fucking up the guy's lecture.
But this recent research by Professor Eric J.M. Rignot (the Donald Bren Professor of Earth System Science, School of Physical Sciences at the University of California, Irvine, and a senior research scientist/joint faculty appointee at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory) is the calmest alarmist I've seen.
If you really want to know where we are now, and where we're going, you simply MUST hear this guy through.
In brief, we can NOT prevent an extra metre of water. It's a done deal. We're not quite sure at what speed this will arrive, but it's not disputable. Probably about 40/50 years, best guess.
And that's NOT counting the Antarctic glaciers.
And they ARE fucked, one of them already moving 7 to 8 times faster since the "cork stopper" broke away.
Get yourself a little education, folks. Then think about the real estate you intend to leave to your children and grandchildren - it could be entirely worthless, despite your best intentions.
And that wall that Trump wants to build (and, by the way, already part of the Obama admin agenda, but no one remembers that now), that wall should be built around New York harbour, cause otherwise it's fucked.
And all of Florida is going underwater - you can't build dykes that big, and you can't stop the water flowing underneath because the whole penisnsula is a porous as a fucking sieve.
Now, please ignore me, put your fingers back in your ears, and go back to chatting about Batman vs. Superman movies, cause that shit is IMPORTANT !!!
I very much doubt there is less sea ice in the southern ocean. Last winter was the coldest in 40 years in southern Western Australia, and the summer was the coolest ever recorded. With the southern ocean directly south of all this cold weather I don't see how the sea ice cold be melting faster without it affecting the weather. Why would the coldest year coincide with more melting? Somethings wrong and I know it's not my memory of the temperatures in Perth for the last 10 months.