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Uber Manager Told Female Engineer That 'Sexism is Systemic in Tech' (theguardian.com)

Posted by msmash on from the here-we-go-again dept.

Sam Levin, writing for The Guardian: Uber is facing yet another discrimination scandal after a manager who was recruiting a female engineer defended the company by saying "sexism is systemic in tech." On 14 March, an engineering manager at Uber tried to recruit Kamilah Taylor, a senior software engineer at another Silicon Valley company, for a developer position at the San Francisco ride-hailing startup, which is struggling to recover from a major sexual harassment controversy. Taylor, who provided copies of her LinkedIn messages with the Guardian, responded by saying: "In light of Uber's questionable business practices and sexism, I have no interest in joining." Taylor was stunned by the reply she received from Uber. The manager, who is a woman, wrote: "I understand your concern. I just want to say that sexism is systemic in tech and other industries. I've met some of the most inspiring people here."

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  1. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That sounds like the recruiter is agreeing/commiserating with her. Nothing to see here?

    1. Re:Hmmm... by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed.... did not sound like she was justifying it, just making a (sadly) honest statement. What she was saying was that there are good people at Uber, which I'm sure is also true. It's a big company, there will be #@holes and there will be good people.

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    2. Re:Hmmm... by mutantSushi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The woman was not an "applicant"... She was actively RECRUITED by Uber thru LinkedIn. The woman ALREADY STATED she wasn't interested in working at Uber because of it's reputation.
      IMHO, at that point, the woman has turned down the job offer herself, so the job application is over. So what the HR manager says after that is irrelevant to discrimination claim.

      Now maybe that's not the IDEAL statement to make or stance to project, but it's not job discrimination.
      There are laws against ACTUAL job discrimination, not laws against statements which don't maximally promote the official ideology.
      Companies which fall in latter category are highly likely to also violate the actual law, but such cases must be proven on their own merits by victims with actual standing re: specific law.

      That said, don't use Uber, folks. For many other reasons as well.

  2. The HR Manager, who like 76% of HRMs is female by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The HR Manager, who like 76% of HRMs in the US is female, said "sexism is systemic".

    You got that right.

    1. Re:The HR Manager, who like 76% of HRMs is female by pipingguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yabbut, we need equal representation in desirable jobs, not in hole-diggers, shit picker-uppers, elephant nose cleaners and HRMs.

  3. Please stop by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please stop putting a "sexism in tech" story on the front page. three times a week. Please! I know you get more clicks and ad views but I beg you not to descend to that level. It's all been said. Every possible part of this debate has been had. Dozens of times. Enough is enough. Gut check: Are you ready to become a Gawker in your quest for shareholder value? I love Slashdot and I don't want to see it go down that road. Down the path to posting more inflammatory posts for clicks or worse, to push a narrative. Don't do this to me. Don't do this to yourself. You're better than this.

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  4. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please stop putting a "sexism in tech" story on the front page. three times a week.

    Why? Are you a snowflake? Were you triggered? Do you need a safe space where you don't have to see any articles that are offensive to you?

  5. Uber issue, not a tech issue by slasher999 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been in IT for nearly 25 years and I've always worked shoulder to shoulder with women and men alike. Uber has an HR and a culture issue. This isn't a widespread tech industry issue.

    1. Re:Uber issue, not a tech issue by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your anecdote isn't data. It's nice that you've worked for progressive companies and that you yourself are good about working with women, but it's absolutely a systemic issue. Story after story after story confirms it.

      Rather, I think you and the companies you work for are outliers. Congratulations on that; I hope you keep your streak.

  6. Because you say so? by s.petry · · Score: 4, Interesting

    0.70c on the dollar has been debunked over and over again. Discrimination in the workplace has been illegal since I was a kid in the 70s. This includes discrimination against women. Currently 64% of all Doctorates, 61% of all Masters degrees, 58% of all Bachelors, and 57% of all Associated degrees go to women. Women are more likely to get hired for a job when put against a man with the same credentials, and even higher when you compare ethnicity. A Hispanic/Black woman will be hired 80% of the time over a Hispanic/Black male. Women have more scholarships, higher rate of approvals for education grants, and higher rate of student loans. Non Whites have the same advantages. The only people getting "screwed" by the system currently are white males. The rest is a fabrication based on repeated propaganda (lies).

    Do a web search for stats yourself, I'm tired of providing citations. People with agenda will deny they exist regardless, and if you are curious they are easy enough to find.

    Sadly, this has made it a place where people no longer believe real issues. When everything is an "ism", nothing is an "ism".

    The country is not going to be competitive in the future because identity politics is isolating people into fact averse gangs, each using their own type of thuggery to get "theirs".

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    1. Re:Because you say so? by OhPlz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And men are under representing in nursing and child care.. so what? People are going to choose career paths that interest them. Not being 50/50 is not evidence of a problem.

  7. Sexism is systematic in tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've worked in technology for a few years. When I was a floor technician assembling stuff Sexism was less pervasive since there was more gender equality.

    When I shifted to IT (network / system admin) it was 99% guys and was quite shocked how nerds could have such filthy mouths and that a lot of the guys had a bizzare nerd bravado I never experienced until entering IT.

    More women need to be in hand on tech roles and stop going into sales, client relations, office administration, etc.... When entering the tech industry.

    Until then nerd bravado Sexism will remain pervasive.

    An easy temp gap fix would be to put these guys back into the sub basement where their conversations can't be overheard anymore. :)