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After Healthcare Defeat, Can The Trump Administration Fix America's H-1B Visa Program? (bloomberg.com)
Friday the Trump administration suffered a political setback when divisions in the president's party halted a move to repeal healthcare policies passed in 2010. But if Trump hopes to turn his attention to how America's H-1B visa program is affecting technology workers, "time is running out," writes Slashdot reader pteddy. Bloomberg reports:
[T]he application deadline for the most controversial visa program is the first week of April, which means new rules have to be in place for that batch of applicants or another year's worth of visas will be handed out under the existing guidelines... There probably isn't enough time to pass legislation on such a contentious issue. But Trump could sign an executive order with some changes.
The article points out that under the current system, one outsourcing firm was granted 6.5 times as many U.S. visas as Amazon. There's also an interesting map showing which countries' workers received the most H-1B visas in 2015 -- 69.4% went to workers in India, with another 10.5% going to China -- and a chart showing which positions are most in demand, indicating that two-thirds of the visa applications are for tech workers.
Uhm...he said he did?
Uhm... Clearly, that don't mean a damn thing.
I think it depends on what's said on Fox in the morning. I don't think H1B reform is a hot button issue for its own sake, or for the sake of employers or visa holders, but if it can be co-mingled with outrage over someone who can be an easy target for blame and looks like they're getting a better deal than they deserve regardless of the facts then it will rise to be the next big thing. I doubt he's walked away from healthcare, there's plenty of rage left to be mined there.
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If I had a team of several million people, I could build a sustainable city on Mars.
As long as I could be totally devoted tot he task, and the willpower to follow through the billions of setbacks you'd hit on the way, especially including my own ignorance.
Trump fixing H1b? It's possible, but similarly absurd to expect.
The Trump coalition isn't the team to fix H1b. They're a wrecking crew, not a construction team. They can foist individuals to make plans, but they're philosophically aligned against, say, the kind of planning that would make a national constitution or something along those lines.
Even if theoretically Trump actually meant the half-dozen things he said on H1b, and DIDN'T mean the several things he said that contradicted that, he'd still need to coordinate with a team that implements it, and a political base to enable a political climate that will make disobeying the rule a bad idea.
Trump could GET folks on board to get all that done... but at this point, he'd really need to construct everything needed from whole cloth. I somehow doubt that enforcing and enlarging H1b rules on the nation's CEOs is going to be a high priority compared to everything else he wants done in the world. It's POSSIBLE, just very unlikely, unless somehow Trump is thwarted on literally every other big thing, and yet not impeached.
H1b is a horrible system. It's virtues are nice - getting qualified folks in to do needed jobs - but that does not justify a system of modern day quasi-indentured-servitude. The way it's used it horrible too, basically used to quash local workers wage increases. Trump speaks against it, but he's exactly the wrong person to choose as a person to crusade against it - he's basically the living avatar of the idea of shortchanging workers using sketchy legal tactics.
Don't expect too much from Trump on this.
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He's obsessed with winning, but losing doesn't affect him. It's always someone else who caused that, so he never really loses. Trying to get Trump to admit defeat (or anything else) is like trying to get water to stick to a duck.
Let's see, Obamacare is a plague on the nation that must be killed right now. The GOP could do so much better. So they propose Obamacare-lite and can't manage to pass it even while controlling the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office. Let me guess, somewhere in Arkansas the county dog catcher is a Democrat and that gummed up everything.
Slow clap.
Do you believe that H1-B workers are the best talent?
When you send that question through a capitalist's mind, it becomes "Do you believe that H1-B workers are the best talent per dollar spent?" Guess what the answer will be.
Don't forget who pulls the marionette's strings.
Most politicians try to get past what they say. However the complexity of real life sets in. Most American career politicians try to do what they say but they are confronted by other politicians who say they will do the opposite. So they will either get what they want, fail to get what they want, or what is currently political death sentence a compromise where both sides get a little of what they want but not all of it, thus causing the stupid public to think they were lying vs actually trying to get what they felt was good for who they are representing.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
And unlike the career politicians he's actually followed through on his promises so far. Failure to repeal Obamacare is not a lie. He made the effort.
WTF?
Obama "made the effort" to close Gitmo throughout his whole presidency, does he get credit for that?
Because a lot of people count that as a "broken promise".
It would be a pretty hypocritical that Trump gets credit for "following through on his promises" by introducing a completely stillborn turd of a bill that his own party wouldn't pass.
Or would you have called Obama a success if instead of he'd introduced a bill to just shut it down while boasting... "I'm the best negotiator, its the best bill you'll ever see, everyone is going to love it."
then two weeks later when its obviously garbage and not going to pass even his own party... he withdraws it and says, "I made the effort. now we're just going to keep it open. So there. Oh... and Mitch McConnell now owns it. It's 100% his problem now."
But that capitalist has been conditioned to only consider short term benefits, so in his head the question really is "Do you believe that H1-B workers are the best talent per dollar spent this quarter?"
With the news about AT&T, Disney, and others forcing their existing domestic tech workers to train the H1B replacements, the true purpose of the program has been revealed: replace expensive domestic workers with cheaper foreign labor. That's why the H1B program won't get fixed: it does what it's meant to do.
Well, he said he cared about cleaning up Wall Street.
But then he picked Steven Mnuchin for Treasury Secretary and Jay Clayton for leading the SEC.
Obamacare isn't imploding though, for the most part it's working much better than anything that can't before it. So many people are now invested in it, reliant on it.
Trump is losing hard. His two flagship policies are on the rocks. The Muslim ban he promised isn't a Muslim ban any more and even then gets stuck down again and again. And now Trumpcare, because he sucks at making deals and massively underestimated how complex healthcare is.
Don't forget that he promised to defeat Isis by now too. He's a used car salesman who promises to fix everything, tells you it's going to be the best wagon you every owned...
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The H1-B program is a mess, but when I look around my office:
1. There is a small group of H1-Bs who are actually competent and probably help keeping us profitable
2. There is a bunch of H1-Bs who are useless, underpaid fucks who make the codebase worse
3. There a small group of citizen programmers who are actually competent and probably help keeping us profitable
4. There is a bunch of citizen programmers who are useless, overpaid fucks who make the codebase worse
Revoking for citizenship of group 4 seems the best plan. Then we can work on group 2.
and suddenly when they are in a position of actually enacting a repeal and replacement bill into law they came up with nothing.
It's even worse than that. They've had how many years now to sit down and think about a replacement plan, to go through the details, crunch the numbers, and get their party on board with a plan so that when they eventually could put it into action they could succeed. Instead they did nothing and tried to push out a cobbled together mess that they couldn't even get enough of their party behind to hold an actual vote on it.
Both of our major political parties are completely dysfunctional at this point. The Democrats spent all of their effort trying to push their anointed party insider candidate who needed significant party help to make it out of a primary against a fringe candidate no one was talking about seriously in the lead up to the election and the republicans had such a weak and unappealing array of candidate that a loud-mouthed bozo that was a complete outsider (he'd only changed to a Republican in 2011, but had bounced back and forth between the parties before) practically take over the party.
Is that a reason to believe he gives a shit?
It's reason enough for me. He seems to be actually trying to pull off his campaign promises. We will see as time goes on.
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Given his business track record (75% complete failure
Please site your sources on this. I would be interested in where you got these numbers.
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It's reason enough for me. He seems to be actually trying to pull off his campaign promises. We will see as time goes on.
I think we've seen enough already.
None of the crazy pie-in-the-sky shit he promised is ever going to happen. He couldn't even close the deal on his wet dream of wrecking the healthcare system, and that's with a Republican president AND a Republican-controlled House and Senate. He couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
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Obama "made the effort" to close Gitmo throughout his whole presidency, does he get credit for that?
Nope, not in my book, and I voted for him twice. That was a promise he broke.
Now, getting back to President Bath Salts, how many of his promises will he break? How many has he already broken?
I suspect that he'll be running near 100% failure rate at the end of his term.
We all know the wall will never be built. We all know coal jobs aren't coming back.
We all know he's not going to defeat ISIS.
We all know he's not going to be able to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.
We all know he's not going to be able to bring jobs back from overseas.
We all know Mexico's not going to pay for the wall.
We all know he's not going to be able to "get rid" of the EPA.
He's already broken his promise to "never take a vacation while serving as president."
We all know he's not going to prosecute Hillary Clinton.
He's not going to "Drop that "dirty, rotten traitor" Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute."
He's not going to bring back jobs from China. Hell, his own shit is made in China.
He's not going to "force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States".
These are just a few of the hundreds of promises he made, all on record.
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Are you serious?!? Republicans have been bitching and moaning and wasting tax payer money on the topic for SIX years!!!
In the end, they have control over both houses in congress, full control of the executive branch, and a weakened judicial....
And the BEST they could come up with was a plan that they weren't even confident enough to bring up to their OWN party after multiple delays and negotiations.
Their next plan is a "wait and see"?! Just how absolutely incompetent does the US governing bodies have to be before the US public atleast stops coming up with excuses for them?
According the trickle down capitalism, if we let the millionaires save millions of dollars by hiring immigrants, those savings will trickle down to the unemployed americans! You know, the white middle class unemployed americans, not those other ones, the ones on welfare.
It isn't their savings that trickles down. According to Reagan's trickle down economic (not capitalism) theory, the wealthy were supposed to take the extra money garnered from the tax cuts they received and invest it, creating jobs by doing so.
The reality is that the rich just saved it – they put it in the bank. They never invested it. No jobs were ever created by tax cuts for the rich. Why? The rich like seeing their wealth grow, not shrink. They hardly ever want to spend it on risky ventures like starting a company and hiring employees.
Money saved by allowing companies to hire H1-B workers is merely to improve the bottom line and pay bigger dividends to share holders and give bigger salaries and bonuses to the CxOs. Nothing about H1-B was ever about trickle down.
He is not more truthful than any other head of state. As every head of state before him, he tries to get through his agenda. But differently than many an head of state before, he vastly overestimates his own abilities. So far, all of the prominent election promises he tried to implement were wrecked because the way he tried to implement them didn't work. Maybe he will learn. Maybe he recognizes that there is more to being a president than making bold promises. Maybe he finds out that there is a reality which does not care about ideology but just is as it is. And reality does not change just because the President of the United States watches TV and misunderstands what he sees.
Don't you think that living in a country that has the most expensive "treatment industry", and before Obama basically no "health care" as in the sense of "making it possible for everyone to actually consult a medical" is rather ridiculous?
What is so complicated in simply looking how other countries doe it, e.g. France, Denmark or god forbid China? And copy the good parts?
How one can be against healthcare and claim to live in a first world country is beyond me.
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Mod up a hundred times. We have too many politicians who are unwilling to compromise to make progress. The only form of government where somebody gets everything they want is a dictatorship.
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Sigh. Where do the prisoners go? Not USA, because of Congress. To another Gitmo? Hardly an answer. Go free? That gets way complicated.
Congress blocked the obvious path to closing Gitmo. Remember, Congress can override a veto with enough votes, so the President can't just thwart the lawmakers. He only enforces the laws within the legal framework, and your objections are addressed here.
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He couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.
THIS is the exact reason Trump is sitting in the White house. It will of the reasons he will be sworn in, in 2020 for a second term. You constantly underestimated Trump from the time he threw his hat in the ring all the way up to election night. You where so sure that you had this in the bag you where already celebrating while he was mopping the floor with you.
More over you are letting your hatred and bitterness, this oppose Trump at all cost, blind you to what is coming down the road. Everyday people are getting tired of it. Even people like me who didn't vote for Trump, and who didn't think he would have made a good President, are starting to change our minds.
Americans don't like losers, but we detest sour losers. And that is exactly what you are coming off to be. The oppose Trump at all costs, instead of working with him is going to cost you more than the Whitehouse. When the next elections come around Americans are going to remember this, and are going to start removing the obstacles. Meaning Democrats.
Funny thing is, those of us who don't subscribe to any real political party see this. But democrats don't, Other libertarians in my group, we predicted that Trump would win. We are also predicting he will win in 2020.
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The oppose Trump at all costs, instead of working with him is going to cost you more than the Whitehouse.
You mean like the way the Republicans opposed every single thing Obama did, even when the idea originated with them? Maybe that's why Obama didn't get a second term.
Tell me again who's gonna pay for that wall?
We all know the wall will never be built.
We all know coal jobs aren't coming back.
We all know he's not going to "defeat ISIS".
We all know he's not "smarter than all the generals".
We all know he's not going to be able to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.
We all know he's not going to be able to "get rid" of the EPA.
He's already broken his promise to "never take a vacation while serving as president."
We all know he's not going to prosecute Hillary Clinton.
He's not going to "Drop that "dirty, rotten traitor" Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute."
He's not going to bring back jobs from China. Hell, his own shit is made in China.
He's not going to "force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States".
These are just a few of the hundreds of promises he made, all on record.
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Nonsense. Barack Obama, George W Bush, Bill Clinton, George HW Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, and Richard Nixon all lied plenty but none - not even Nixon - have come out with as much nonsense as Donald Trump.
Or do you really think there was spy tech in his microwave, he won the most electoral votes since Reagan, his inauguration had the biggest crowd of supporters in the history of inauguration, the murder rate is at a 45 year high (stated in early February, when in fact the US murder rate is half of its 1980 peak), he only lost the national popular vote by over three million votes due to massive organized voter fraud, Kuwait has the same kind of Muslim immigration travel ban as the one he supported, the federal court block of his travel ban means any traveler can enter the US whenever they want with no screening, etc... etc... etc... etc....?
I think you're giving them too much credit. While what you write is true with respect to the long term effects of using imported educated workers, most companies and executives are strictly focused on the current fiscal quarter and year. They don't care what the impact of importing H1-B workers does to their own company in five years, let alone have interest in examining what it does to the country or the world.
And that's capitalism right there. If it's cheaper to poison the water, poison the air, have the laborers work in unsafe conditions, cut medical benefits, cut education costs, etc... for the next year, then the decision is automatic.
Melania Trump did not come over on an H2B visa. She came over on a B1/B2 visitor visa and worked illegally. The H2B visa story is yet another alternate fact.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
Documents 6 bankruptcies, and 13 businesses that closed up shop - at the very least suggests he doesn't know what he's doing
Lets see, in 2005 he paid over 30 million in taxes on a income of over 100 million. He has several properties in down town New York, that is worth several million dollars. You're own link clearly states that bankruptcies are nether a indicator of success or failure. With a income of at least 100M that we know of, and possible billions elsewhere, I believe we can clearly say he knows what he is doing.
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Perhaps electing a con man with zero political experience into the single most important political position in the country wasn't such a smart idea...
Why do you think all of the people wealthy enough to fly to the US from all of those great places you mention do so when they needed Medical care?
The US attracts 60-85k people for medical procedures each year, compared with Thailand that receives 2.8 Million.
750k American leave the US to seek medical services elsewhere, so the free market is speaking loudly and clearly.
The Free Market medical system produced the best Medical practices in the world.
It produced average outcomes similar to those of Cuba for orders of magnitude more money. Simply on the basis of economic efficiency, it must be rated a failure.
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Your examples make no sense.
Americans are to poor to fly overseas to get healthcare they can not afford in their own country.
As I said before, only 'super rich' fly to the USA for treatments. And to be super rich or does not really matter how poor the country is you come from.
The rest of your post makes no sense either. In europe everything is centered around 'health care'. Foreigners flying to europe have by definition no 'health care' but need a private contract with the hospital or doctor they want to seek. Same as if they visit the USA. Why would one fly to Denmark for dental aid? Hu, every country on the world has good affordable dentists, facepalm! I fly to Thailand to fix my teeth, or I could fly to Greece or Tunesia. To combine a vacation with treatment for the same price it would cost me in germany. However: I have a private health insurrance. If
I had a tooth problem, they pay up to $4000 per year. As I take care of my teeth, they never have to pay anything.
The parents of an american friend of mine actually live close to Paris, they are from Camerun. They both get Hepatitis and cancer treatment ... so yes: rich people do fly to Erope to get treatments. ... would have costed less than $1000 in Paris (plus stay and food etc. ofc. in both cases)
The story is quite funny, as she was with her parents she needed a routine operation. As she is from Camerun and her family has 'residentship status' she would be operated 'for free'. But as she was a director of an american mutual-funds bank, her health insurance insisted she flys back to the states. They refused to pay any followup treatments if anything would go wrong in the hospital in Paris.
So she got a first class flight and an operation in Washington that costed far over $10,000
The USA might have a few specialized institutions that are above European level (in terms of quallity of service), but most certainly not in numbers that are in any way relevant.
The first heart transplant was not done in the US ... you are watching to much Dr. House. Do you know where most US soldiers are treated that get severly wounded somewhere on the world?
Hint: not in the USA .... ... should be not be hard to figure which it is.
Answer: In my country
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Pricing is the right approach, although using percentages to alter pricing is risky because you run the risk of "A10" workers being paid even less in nominal terms so that they're still cheaper WITH the added taxation.
I think with a lot of the outsourcing mills that are foreign-owned, you might end up seeing complex compensation systems that involve fractional payment deferred or paid into accounts overseas so that the nominal wage remains competitive even with additional marginal taxes.
I would tweak your plan slightly:
1) H1B workers must be paid 125% of the job's regional maximum
2) H1B workers must be employed and paid directly for the business who is the end beneficiary of their work -- they may not perform any contractual labor
3) H1B workers are fee to switch employers during the term of their visa
4) Violation of these terms is a crime. Employers are subject to a fine of 3x the employee's annual salary and a 5 year ban on hiring any H1B workers. H1B workers are subject to immediate detention and deportation for violating these rules. Employers who violate these terms for more than 1 employee concurrently are subject to criminal prosecution.
(1) Insures they are no longer cheap labor and business-critical innovation geniuses will make this kind of salary anyway.
(2) Prevents them from being used in labor mills or enabling foreign-owned firms from side-channel payments. They must be direct hires.
(3) No indentured servitude. This prevents businesses willing to accept higher salaries but who set extreme working conditions to cost-average their output to local salary levels ($/hr).
(4) Puts teeth into enforcement.
Sorry, no. Texas tried tort reform and the problem got worse than ever as a result. The other key word in your post is wealthy. U.S. healthcare works for the wealthy and leaves the majority of the country with none but for a few charity teaching hospitals.
Americans are going to Mexico for their dentistry and Singapore for major surgery.