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Terrifying Anti-Riot Vehicle Created To Quash Any Urban Disturbance (boingboing.net)
"Are you an urban police force thinking about how to control your fellow humans?" jokes Cory Doctorow. "Look no farther! Your pals at Bozena have an all-new RIOT system, a crowd-control killdozer for all your protest-suppressing needs!" He's one of several web commentators marveling at the marketing copy for a Slovakian company's new anti-riot machinery, also spotted by Slashdot reader drunkdrone. Some quotes from the BOZENA RIOT SYSTEM site about the device's features:
- Easy attachable bulldozer blade.
- The [6,600 pound] shield comes equipped with launching ports designed for use of guns or other rubber projectiles launchers.
- The trailer is capable of displacing the water/foam or its mixtures (available additives: pepper or painting substances) under the high pressure into the distance of several dozen meters.
- Communication with rioters through the loudspeakers.
- Designed to control riots in streets and urbanized areas...intended predominantly for the special military and police units responsible for the CROWD CONTROL during the violent political/social demonstrations, against football hooligans, etc.
I wondered when a one of our companies went into EOD machinery construction, but a look at the web page told me that it's Slovak not Slovenian :) We seem to do explosive ordnance clearing through fundraising and "manual labor" - http://www.itf-fund.si/.
As if living in a police state wasn't enough... From the picture and video tabs:
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This is right out of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Room!_Make_Room!
It looks like something you can just go around or worse, get pushed and crushed around it by the crowd itself.
Well, the maidanist recipe for this is to borrow a tractor, forklift or other apparatus, which can lift the side panels of the plow.
This seems very complicated. About some c four?
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
... negotiating and listening to the protesters arguments just wipe them out. Nice move in a democracy. Or are these machine intended for exporting to already dictatorial regimes?
And how will violent rioters respond, firearms and bulldozers jacked from work sites?
Also, consider putting a leash on the police vehicle with steel cables... I dunno... maybe to lamp posts or some such fixed infrastructure.
What movie was that already? Or was it Duke of Hazzard? Anyway, they tie a chain to the rear axle of a patrol car and when the car takes off, when it reaches the length of the chain, the axle and wheels stay there and the car continue moving...
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
It's not like a lot of protesters riot.
But ... well, let's put it that way: Rioters give the authorities a good excuse to end a protest. Draw your own conclusions.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The lucky ones that did it before governments found a neat way to end protests in a way that has the support of the general population.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It doesn't. Mostly because it doesn't look like it can easily move that shield out of the way of an obstacle that's trivial to place on the street.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
There's a good chance that this machine's software/interfaces will have....inadequate security. Someone, somewhere, will achieve control over it, and then when it turns on the thin blue line behind it, ostensibly waiting to "clean up" the now-subdued rioters, there will be some outrage from the police department/s who bought it, some swift spin from the manufacturer, and the units will either 1. be withdrawn, or 2. given a firmware upgrade, in which case, see above.
At the very least, someone will be able to jam its communication, rendering it unresponsive.
They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
P.S. Additional tip: when you can foresee that the protest you attend is going to be pushed back with such devices, always bring a battery powered perforator drill and steel pipe of sufficient quantity.
Either that or tool up with an AssBlaster or Dildozer, which would see this woosy thing off no problems, as long as Beef Supreme is driving it.
I don't see anywhere to scoop up rioters to take to the factory. Soylent Green won't make itself!
"Common sense will be the death of us all"
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It's basically a baby-blue enclosed forklift with a pump system, a water trailer, and a shield on the front. So terrifying.
Technology like this isnt helping riot control. its dangerous brinkmanship. Once you start deploying autonomous anti-personnel devices like MRAPS's and BOZENA, youve made citzens aware that not only do you not care about the current reason theyre rioting but you're willing to herd them like cattle instead of take the time to listen.
Treat people like expendable trash and theyll fight you in ways you wouldnt expect. in Texas it meant after a slew of police shootings of unarmed black men, a black man took up a sniper position and began executing police from a rooftop with a high power rifle. if your only answer to systemic inequality is to deploy a 6600 pound shield, you'll soon find how resilient it is to firearms that are many, many times more powerful than what you would normally be faced with in a riot situation.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Can't you see the writing on the wall???? It was American Graffitti Oh, those happy days.
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All the better for Soylent Green processing.
The mind conceives, the body achieves, the spirit manifests.
I bet fire would kill it.
What good do the protests even do, anyhow?
Actually, protest and mass demonstration are the only way change is accomplished in the US. At least, change that benefits the people. Voting, up until very very recently, has almost always been meaningless, since the two choices were provided to us by the two parties.
But never mind all that. What I want to know is, when will this vehicle be available for purchase in GTA?
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it actually looks great as a temp baracade setup on things like parade routes and other things. much quicker to just roll in and -park vs rollin, unload baracades,put them in place and do the reverse when the event is over.
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Anyone at the wheels of a Cat 966 would totally crush it. That "dozer blade" is a joke. And real bullets will just bounce off the loader's bucket. It's also extremely vulnerable to side and rear attacks. And the cat has far more maneuverability.
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It sounds to me like you'll be the one fucking yourself.
The police wants to escalate to that level, Then the Unrest will also.
Cops with full battle armor are a danger to society, it means the ones that think they need to defend themselves from the police will up their game to a 308 high power hunting rifle that will rip through Military armor like butter, or start using Armor piercing 5.56/7.62 home made rounds.
Want to keep a crowd calm, you don't freaking roll in like storm troopers hell bent on extermination.
In he countries it's built in, RPG's are not hard to come by, hell even a home made IED would take that thing out.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
If we are going to get dragged into Shadowrun, can we at least get the cool stuff like elves and magic to go with it?
Just looking at this, if someone falls in front of it, it'll run them over. That may fly in Slovakia but in the U.S. it would get the police department sued within an inch of their existence.
Moderating "-1, Disagree" is simple censorship. Have the guts to post your opinion.
You seem to be confusing protests and riots. Protests are one of the last legal acts (before riots, sit ins, work stoppages, etc) for a populace to resort to when a government doesn't listen to its people. Governments tend to like to turn them into riots by illegally trying to break them up (see kettling, escalation, mass arrests, agent provocateurs, etc) in an attempt to discourage dissent. They do of course naturally turn into riots as well, but usually only when things have gotten really bad (poverty, oppression, corruption, etc).
You're not actually allowed to riot. Rioting isn't some god-given right, where taking it away is a form of oppression. Rioting is a crime, and it's a crime because it hurts people. A machine that makes it harder to get away with rioting is a good thing, in the same way that having a bank that can't be robbed would be a good thing, no matter how frustrated it makes potential bank robbers feel.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yes......, because there is noooo evidence that it occurs
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/nyregion/new-york-settles-suit-over-arrests-of-occupy-wall-street-protesters.html?_r=0
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/after-a-police-dog-bit-his-leg-this-protester-was-jailed-thanks-to-a-cops-testilying
There's another case I think that illustrates the point more clearly but I can't find a link to it at the moment. Protestors were congregated around a courthouse (I believe), police told them they needed to move to the sidewalk, so they did. Around an hour later a large number of officers rolled in and arrested everyone claiming they had "failed to obey a lawful order". Video later showed the truth and officials dismissed it as a "miscommunication".
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Just because someone was elected that some people i the population didn't like, there was widespread rioting and looting across multiple cities.
If people are so willing to damage everything (and other people) over political differences, what can you expect if something really serious happens?
The building like these is in response to actions of the people, who have shown even if you treat people as if they had value they will not repay you in kind. So sadly this kind of response is more than warranted, and will not do anything to cause them to fight they would not be doing already.
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It's not what the nominee is promising you, it's what his or her voting record, friends, and previous actions consists of.. Have they made ill choices while voting, doing business? If never in office you better find out who they are! Research!! You vote for the better person. Hopefully, one who cares about all the fate of the people they Serve. Not the kind who serve themselves to money -- Only a Mad Man would put a Murderous Device like this on the street.. And while were on that subject, how are they Immune to prosecution if they kill people?? What? No one is responsible anymore? ..Rubber bullets blind, maim, and kill people too with this "human hamburger maker"!
"Your pals at Bozena have an all-new RIOT system, a crowd-control killdozer for all your protest-suppressing needs!"
Good thing it's impervious to IEDs....oh, wait....
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Spoken like a true Stalinist. Protip: You're not any different than the stereotype described.
A weapon to surpass metal gear!?
Yeah.. it's not like they hide their ideological bias much.. Look at the story's url.
https://boingboing.net/2017/03/25/late-stage-capitalism-3.html
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Seriously?
Calling this thing a killdozer profanes the name of our lord Killdozer, and Marvin Heenmeyer his prophet
It was an 80s movie. A comedy. A bad one. Maybe Police Academy 5?
"How will Charles be convicted of Treason? You do understand that the charge of treason is constitutionally defined and Charles himself has the ability to designate who the enemy is and isn't- right?"
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Someone in England, January 1649.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
looks like Maginot Line - people will never learn....
All hail Robocop!
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It would be awesome for deploying in front of all those idiots that text and drive.
One of these but 100 times bigger.
Or sling a barrel of gasoline and a torch over the top! The barrier even protects you from the flames (but not the driver).
And it's a perfectly sound conclusion to reach if you're actually familiar with the protest scene. I call it a "scene" because that's exactly what it is. Just like you have ravers, goths, punks, emo kids, hippies, and whatnot, you have protesters. And it doesn't matter if he protest is to free Mumia, no blood for oil, food not bombs, or whatever Noam Chomsky's latest book is about; it's always the same people. That's because it's their social circle. The weekend's protest is where they go to hang out with their friends, to have fun, to see free concerts, to get dates, and so on. (Yes, when I first moved to San Francisco; I used to hang out with some of these people myself.)
So yes, when a bunch of strangers show up, nobody knows who they are, and they start causing trouble; it's pretty damn obvious... if you've paid a whit of attention at the protests every weekend previously... that what you're dealing with there is not protestors, but that the cause of the week has touched the nerve of someone powerful and they sent in the agents provocateur.
Imagine all the people...
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... but I'm not too sure people in the US should be laughing at that. :P
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Not that I think police should be underequiped, inefficient, and with gear and vehicles in unuseable state like it happens here in Brazil, but I don't think MRAPs, tanks, and anti-explosive robots have a place in small counties and whatnot. xD
In fact, here in Brazil we do have a few armored trucks for slum incursions and such, but you know... rare exceptions.
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What about the antihippie drill? All it requires is a pilot, a scientist, an engineer, and a token black guy to sacrifice himself if something goes wrong. Surely it can be reconfigured to work against non-hippie rabble rouser protestors?
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what do the ruling class, who are ordering all this, care about a few dead cops? That guy with the sniper rifle accomplished less than nothing. He's put the police on edge and given credit to the notion that blacks are dangerous thugs. He'll be used by the right wing pro-corporate press to push their agenda for decades to come. Meanwhile the folks that set up the system he wanted to bring down are safe and snug in their compounds with private security carrying military grade weapons.
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If you're protesting and you see that thing coming your way with other protesters pressing from behind.
Which fuckwit came up with this vehicle? Someone who either doesn't care about or understand human group psychology.
The mountains of madness have many little plateaus of sanity - Terry Pratchett.
Getting away with it? You can bet any amount of money that immediately after someone as much as thinks about starting a riot, police is there to round up everyone. It's almost like they wait for the police to be good to go before hurling the first stone.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
In the case of Parks, definitely and idiot,
You, on the other hand, sound really smart.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
I was surprised that nobody mentioned Soylent Green - https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Perhaps we can CrowdFund to get one of these for the protesters!
I reserve my right to protest - peacefully, of course - until we are oppressed!
If I am raising very legitimate concerns in a peaceful protest, and you come at me with one of these things, I am gonna go get mine!
There's 'good' cops and 'bad' cops, of course. As we all know, 'bad' cops make life for us, AND the 'good' cops, tough!
Problem is when 'bad' cops get one of these and start the escalation.
Better idea: Spend the monies on ensuring all cops come to work in a good, happy mood. Perhaps ensure that each has at least 2 fully satisfying orgasms every day, one must be within 3 hours of the next shift.
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
I had exactly the same idea years ago, without taking that much into design. A portable wall? Sounds like against the wall... To me it indicates schizophrenics are ripe and prone to amass on the slightest synchronized signal, though it is only natural that we find ways to handle big Human herds, a few have passed through places I ve been in and it is not just a party but ready to go wild. Would you stop at the vehicle and act funny? I do not think so...