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Prominent Drupal, PHP Developer Kicked From the Drupal Project Over Unconventional Sex Life (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous Slashdot reader writes: Last week the Drupal community erupted in anger after its leader, Dries Buytaert, asked Larry Garfield, a prominent Drupal contributor and long-time member of the Drupal and PHP communities, "to leave the Drupal project." Buytaert claims he did this "because it came to my attention that he holds views that are in opposition with the values of the Drupal project." A huge furor has erupted in response -- not least because the reason clearly has much to do with Garfield's unconventional sex life. [Garfield is into BDSM, and is a member of the Gorean community, "a community who are interested in, and/or participate in, elaborate sexual subjugation fantasies, in which men are inherently superior to women."] Buytaert made his post (which is now offline) in response after Larry went public, outing himself to public opinion. Buytaert retorted (excerpt available via TechCrunch): "when a highly-visible community member's private views become public, controversial, and disruptive for the project, I must consider the impact [...] all people are created equally. [sic] I cannot in good faith support someone who actively promotes a philosophy that is contrary to this [...] any association with Larry's belief system is inconsistent with our project's goals [...] I recused myself from the Drupal Association's decision [to dismiss Garfield from his conference role] [...] Many have rightfully stated that I haven't made a clear case for the decision [...] I did not make the decision based on the information or beliefs conveyed in Larry's blog post." TechCrunch columnist Jon Evans goes on to "unpack" the questions that naturally arise from these "Code of Conduct conflicts."

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  1. SJW only allow missionary position by sinij · · Score: 5, Interesting

    SJW only allow missionary position, anything else is sinful and displeases misogyny God.

  2. Re:While its not my cup of tea by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like everyone not fully embracing the SJW agenda is being purged in tech and entertainment industries in the wake of the Trump hysteria. People thought Tim Allen was crazy for joking to Jimmy Kimmel that being even a moderate conservative in Hollywood was starting to feel like being a Jew in 1930's Germany. But he wasn't just shooting his mouth off. One of the first things the Nazis did with Jews was ban them from most employment.

    Let's hope sanity ultimately prevails before we cross into truly dangerous territory here.

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  3. Re:So to sum up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're making some idiotic assumptions about what BDSM is. I'm a female bondage model the shit you're saying is just plain wrong. My girlfriend is also into bondage and nothing we've ever done has involved any of the bullshit you spew.

    What's with bringing up minority races? What does that have to do with anything? You wouldn't happen to be a Trump supporter that pretends to not be racist, would you?

  4. Re:SJW purges in full swing now by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Um, are you claiming that a gorean lifestyle is associated with being a conservative?

    No. For all I know, this guy may consider himself a liberal. But the fact that his lifestyle deviated even *slightly* from the rigid SJW orthodoxy was enough to get him purged. He wasn't fired for participating in BDSM and talking about it. He was fired for participating in a specific type of BDSM that involves men subjugating women. If he had been blogging about gay or transsexual BDSM, the same guy who fired him would be likely be celebrating him for his "bravery."

    This sort of thing doesn't even warrant being called a "double standard" anymore. It's crossed over into just flat-out political/social persecution. And it's taken on a quasi-religious orthodoxical tone that's scary as fuck.

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  5. Re:SJW purges in full swing now by misexistentialist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What do you think Jesus was doing on the cross?

  6. Re:Real Question: Consensual or Non-Consensual? by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If he acts on it, call the police.

    If not, it's his business alone. I can't in good conscience condemn a man for his thoughts, dreams, ideas and wishes. Mostly 'cause you can't even imagine how often I had thoughts that start with "If I could wipe out the life on this planet..."

    Just about a dozen time only from reading the comments on this story.

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  7. Re:While its not my cup of tea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Gor community has more than one form of inequality going for it.

    Specifically, the community is overwhelmingly women. I know this from first-hand experience (not that you would believe an A/C anyway, but my assertion here is that I have seen this with my own eyes, and am not just making this shit up to troll).

    The female-to-male ratio is so high that the women must share their men with other women.

    The kicker is....the women only flock to real manly-men. If you don't quite have the build it is possible to make up for that with enough butch in your personality...but the more sensitive guys tend to get snubbed, even by women who have no partner.

  8. Re: While its not my cup of tea by backslashdot · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's fantasy role play. It doesn't mean they actually believe or would act in real life on that stuff. At least I hope not. Not all of them anyway. My guess is if there isn't allowed to be a controlled outlet for a person's needs it would fester until they can't control it. We need people to be able to quasi-experience their harmless fantasies without repercussions or harming others. Where that is not possible we have to provide them with mental health services. Otherwise their brains may scramble even more and they may end up doing something harmful not just to themselves but to others. Hey it sucks but there isn't any other option.

  9. Re:While its not my cup of tea by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, it's not new. Americans have been acting like this for a long time with all that puritan outrage bullshit despite being the land of commercial sleaze.

    It's not new, but what is (fairly) new is that it's now coming from the nominally "liberal" and "progressive" political spectrum in America. It's the Horseshoe effect. Same reason many people on both sides of the political spectrum oppose prostitution: conservatives oppose it because they believe exploiting women for sex is immoral, and liberals because... well, actually, the exact same thing, really.

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  10. Re: While its not my cup of tea by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's fantasy role play. It doesn't mean they actually believe or would act in real life on that stuff. At least I hope not. Not all of them anyway.

    There's both kinds among the Goreans. And on a personal, anecdotal level, all the Gorean men I've met were complete assholes, but that doesn't prove anything. Maybe I just met the worst ones, right? Ha ha ha.

    It is certainly possible to engage in BDSM in ways which are not harmful, and determining which kind someone is doing remotely is nontrivial. On the other hand, equality is a tenet of all modern civilizations with good reason. And I've known people who were into BDSM who were definitely not healthy. Like, people who harmed themselves or even killed themselves eventually because they felt unwanted or unfulfilled. Were these people ever participating in a healthy way, or were they just lying to themselves?

    I'm not trying to draw a line beyond which things are definitely unhealthy, but if it looks and smells and in all other ways seems unhealthy, odds are good. I've known people in long-term relationships to be pushed way beyond what they actually wanted simply because they didn't know how to say no, and there's no shortage of scrupulous fuckers out there who claim to be responsible members of the scene but are neither safe, sane, nor obtaining informed consent.

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    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  11. Re:Inherent superiority by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is also a gap in what a persons fantasy life is vs what they publicly say and do. Ones fantasy life may not be inline with their own values. I am sure most of us has some sexual fetish that others will find distasteful. And we well know if we fully try to find our fantasy it will be just impractical.
    This is the problem on spying on people and digging up dirt on them. They find something then extrapolate an intention that isn't based on reality.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.