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Slashdot Asks: Windows 10 Creators Update Goes Live On April 11, Will You Upgrade?
Microsoft said today it will start rolling out Windows 10 Creators Update, the latest major update to its current desktop operating system, starting April 11. The company says Windows 10 Creators Update brings with it a range of new features. Some of the chief ones are:
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
7. Native support for surround sound.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Over the past two years, we have seen numerous instances where Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 update to customers who have Windows 7 or 8 running on their machines. There are still hundreds of millions of customers who're yet to upgrade from Windows 7, arguing that they either prefer how Windows 7 looks and functions, or (in some cases, and) why fix something when nothing is broken. That said, would you consider upgrading your system to Windows 10 Creators Update?
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
7. Native support for surround sound.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Over the past two years, we have seen numerous instances where Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 update to customers who have Windows 7 or 8 running on their machines. There are still hundreds of millions of customers who're yet to upgrade from Windows 7, arguing that they either prefer how Windows 7 looks and functions, or (in some cases, and) why fix something when nothing is broken. That said, would you consider upgrading your system to Windows 10 Creators Update?
Do you have a choice?
It'll deserve a BIG Thank You M$! - For deploying an update that needlessly shortens my SSD life while adding a ton of bloat, without really fixing any existing issues...
X11 that is. "Creator's Upsate"? Really? Well that name doesn't *sound* very creative. I'm just saiyan (like Goku).
Someone had to do it.
Okay, the Home edition still tries to prevent you from shutting off the crumy updates...
Good.
The average Windows user can't be trusted to ever run updates, so their computer ends up getting compromised.
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
I don't use Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
See #1.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
If it's anything like Paint was for graphics then most likely I'd use something more robust instead of Paint to make 3d stuff. Assuming I have 3D stuff to make in the first place.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
That sounds annoying.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
Honestly not sure about this one. My eyes are fine looking at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
Just what I always wanted for my computer, another attack vector for breaking in.
7. Native support for surround sound.
That's nice, don't have surround sound but I seriously think that's a nice feature.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
I don't use Maps and in fact if I could uninstall it I did or would if I could.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
I found it annoying when Windows unexpectedly loaded up things like a session record when I fired up Minecraft one day because "gaming experience". Do not annoy me further please.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Like surround sound this is nice but not something I use.
Over all I have little incentive to update Windows, more incentive to reformat and use another operating system on my only Windows machine left in my collection. The reality however is they will most likely force this update on me one way or another so if it bugs me to much I'll have no more Windows machines "just for certain games" because the operating system those games relies on is far to annoying for me to continue to in that market when better alternatives I'm already running on a gaming laptop I have running Linux are available.
Clearly the 11 was binary. So it goes live on April 3rd.
Not until they totally remove the spyware they infested it with.
The average Windows user will have no idea how to disable updates. What's the point in taking away that possibility from above (should I say "below", given that they know better yet bend over for the clusterfuck windows is?) average windows users?
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I swear Microsoft always seems to not only not support old versions but actively creates issues to force you to upgrade. On windows 7 just on March 15th they pushed a "security update" to 2010 Microsoft office that basically makes any file with macros in it crash unexpectedly many times a day. I had to roll back the updates on every computer in our office and disable windows updates because we rely heavily on macros. It's so frustrating that things can work fine and they break it. Now we have to think about upgrading to the lastest operating system and Microsoft office which both already changed the way VBA works so transitioning and keeping our existing macros running is going to take many months of work.
The more relevant question is: will I be upgraded?
Yes if you claim you are disabled.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-u...
Tell them you have a limp.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I am almost positive I will be upgrading.
Not because I want to, but because Microsoft will "upgrade" my machine behind my back, whether I want to upgrade or not.
God help us all, if they ever get a zero day on Linux, because then a lot more machines will end up "upgraded" to Windows 10...
Problem with that is MS Updates sometimes as bad or worse than no update at all. There are at least 3 instances where the update actually compromised or killed the OS. There are also reported incidents where an update was marked as "critical" but had nothing to do with security. Even the experts can't tell if an update is valid, potentially breaks something, or even creates vulnerabilities. (some do). So, even professionals can't tell without a test environment which no user is going to have. But by taking away the choice, MS is free to wreak havoc on "your" OS as well as compromise your data and privacy. That is an overall negative not just for the user, but potentially for the entire Internet community.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
M$ is bad because M$!
That reputation did not spring out of the ether. Microsoft solidly earned it with bad products and bad business practices.
Seems it hit a little too close to home for someone.
It hits too close to home when I see people constantly invoking the same fallacies to communicate their perspectives.
A limp what?
If you have even the most basic knowledge of Group Policy editing, it takes around 15 seconds to disable updates from auto installing.
I'm fine with Microsoft forcing its more "basic" users to update. The fact that they didn't do this in the past is THE literal reason why that company still lives with the stigma of being "virus ridden" and "as full of holes as swiss cheese".
I'll never get some of you guys. When an OS doesn't force the user to update, its a security risk. When an OS does force the user to update, its an affront to freedom and choice. If you don't want to deal with forced updates, either don't use Windows or become enough of a power user to stop the OS from doing it.
The main thing mentioned that I care about is the new screen dimmer, but I've been using f.lux for years.
"Dynamic Lock" could be very handy (auto-lock when you walk away) and I've been looking into something to do that, but I'm looking at it for a scenario of PCs in exam rooms so pairing all of them to doctors' phones isn't really a viable option.
Not mentioned in the summary, but possibly important to readers here:
Improvements to control over updates, such as being able to prevent driver updates.
Improvements to privacy settings - Maybe not so relevant if you're using O&O ShutUp, but nice to have. Apparently includes the ability to see (and clear) the info that MS has, along with a reduction of the info sent when you're using "Basic" telemetry settings.
An upgrade to Windows Subsystem for Linux (will be bumped to Ubuntu 16.04 from the current 14.04) and better integration with Windows apps.
A navigation bar in the registry, which could actually be really handy.
If you use OneDrive on both a desktop with tons of storage (and everything local) and a laptop with an SSD smaller than what's in your OneDrive, now there will apparently be better behavior for files not local on the smaller system. Currently, you basically just modify in OneDrive Settings which folders are available on each system.
fencepost
just a little off
According to "Barnacules Nerdgasm" on Youtube, who previously worked on Windows at Microsoft, people he know who are still inside have told him that "telemetry" (I.e. spying) will get harder to disable in future updates. Whether all of these will be in this next update or in a future one is hard to say.
He commented to his own video with this:
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
1. will allow to completely disable telemetry (or won't include it at all)
2. will not have any mention of UWP/Metro (right now it's even built into Explorer)
3. will allow to control updates and Windows Defender
4. will return Classic Control Panel along with all removed options like Glass, Classic UI, etc.
5. Will introduce Service packs back.
Until then Windows 7 is more than good for me.
What do you mean non-falsifiable?
Non-falsifiable means no practical condition exists where a statement can be evaluated as any more or less valid.
The statement "This is Slashdot M$ is bad because M$!" is an example of a non-falsifiable statement. This device conveys blanket dismissal of any MS$ actions because "Slashdot" regardless of merit and is therefore equivalent to saying nothing at all.
It's extremely falsifiable, the problem is, if you read through this thread you see plenty of examples of it. Would you care for me to start copying and pasting them into a post for you?
Whether the condition holds or not is irrelevant. For example you may well find examples of people expressing: "I hate Windows because Microsoft wrote it". This does not render a non-falsifiable statements any more falsifiable.
OP post was the 10th chronologically and did not respond to or quote anyone in particular. Not a single one of the preceding posts NOT A SINGLE ONE offered a justification of "Microsoft is bad".
It's obvious to me it was intended to be a device to dismiss negative opinions of Microsoft without having to offer any merit based information in return. Simply because this is Slashdot anyone offering a negative opinion should be dismissed or discounted simply because everyone always says negative things about Microsoft.
I'll never get some of you guys. When an OS doesn't force the user to update, its a security risk.
If by 'updates' you mean fixing security issues, then yes.
When an OS does force the user to update, its an affront to freedom and choice.
If by 'updates' you mean fixing security issues, then no.
It is my understanding that the sort of 'updates' we're talking about here, however, is more than 'fixing security issues'. If I were using Windows, I'd be fine with forced security updates, but not with forced addition of random crap and telemetry.
either don't use Windows
I'm running pretty much only NetBSD, with the occasional FreeBSD and Linux machines here and there. Doesn't change that i can be curious about the latest drama of the Windows world.
or become enough of a power user to stop the OS from doing it.
Seriously, who are you kidding? You can't just "become enough of a power user" to stop a blackbox OS from doing that.
All you *can* do is a depth-first traversal of the entire GUI, unchecking every checkbox that sounds related. In no way does that mean that you can be sure everything is actually turned off, becuase, you know, software developers don't HAVE to add a checkbox to a GUI to control $feature.
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Eventually Microsoft will shovel the Creators' update onto all Windows 10 computers.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
> I'll never get some of you guys:
> * When an OS doesn't force the user to update, its a security risk.
> * When an OS does force the user to update, its an affront to freedom and choice.
Because there is MORE then just 2 choices:
* How many updates NEVER gave _any_ details on _exactly_ what they were doing other then some bullshit generic "Security updates" message.
* How many updates FORCED the user to migrate to Windows 10?
* How many updates had NOTHING to do with updates except add spyware?
* How many updates broke WGA (Windows Genuine Advantage)?
* How many updates broke Internet Explorer?
Who the fuck designs a program where you can only install the latest version??? If Microsoft wanted to pull its head out of their collective ass they could have:
* Clearly, communicated, in detail, EXACTLY what each and every update fixes.
But no, they didn't.
Microsoft has ZERO respect for its users.
So fuck'em.
When an OS doesn't force the user to update, its a security risk. When an OS does force the user to update, its an affront to freedom and choice.
"Force" != "Default choice"
I'm fine with Microsoft forcing its more "basic" users to update
The problem here is that even the "basic" users are starting to have way too many problems with the updates, because the updates suck. The solution is to stop fucking up updates, not ramming them down peoples' throats by locking them out of the group policy editor.
Users aren't stupid. They're not rejecting updates because they want their computer to suck. They're rejecting updates because the very process, results, and frequency of updates is completely out of hand. It's the same thing that drove people to Macs back when every PC vendor showed 20 self-congratulatory splash screens every time you switched on the power.