This Year's H-1B Visa Applications Look A Lot Like Last Year's (newsweek.com)
"This year's round of H-1B visa program applications was scheduled to launch Monday, and it was largely absent of President Donald Trump's proposed policy changes," writes Newsweek. An anonymous reader quotes their report:
The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services last updated its online page dedicated to the program, which granted visas to skilled foreign workers, Wednesday with the rules mostly similar to those of last year and quotas remaining the same. These requirements were set to launch despite Trump's vow to reform the program on the grounds that companies exploited it to fill jobs once held by U.S. citizens who earned higher wages.
An alleged draft of an executive order was leaked last month and widely circulated, raising fears that the administration was preparing to gut the program. These measures were never announced. "There was a window in which the White House could have made serious reforms," Russ Harrison, head of government relations for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers-USA, told The Wall Street Journal. "For whatever reason, they decided not to take it."
An alleged draft of an executive order was leaked last month and widely circulated, raising fears that the administration was preparing to gut the program. These measures were never announced. "There was a window in which the White House could have made serious reforms," Russ Harrison, head of government relations for the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers-USA, told The Wall Street Journal. "For whatever reason, they decided not to take it."
Imagine that, trump sold out his voters.
The story is framed as bad but isn't it better that they take some time to craft a reasonable update to the policy? Trump has been president just a bit over two months now!
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He only wanted your votes. He hires Mexicans to build his properties and uses shady contractors to cut costs doing so maintaining them.
Joke is on you for thinking he would be different. You can't be pro automation and pro free market and libertarian and cry wahaha it's not fair ai have to compete too?
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Wait, are you telling me that once again Trump *didn't* help his voters in favor of his rich business associates? You know, this together with the gutting of the FCC and the EPA almost, *almost*, makes me think that he's not trying that hard to make America great again.
I know you can't see my face right now, but if you could, it would have a look of surprise.
No. I don't want to keep that in mind. Indians should fix India. I see little reason to give a damn that Indians can't be bothered to take a shot at a first rate society while they leech ours, driving down our standard of living.
The program is repeatedly lobbied for by these companies. It needs to go. That, or these companies should relocate to Mumbai and America should embargo their goods/services and release their patents to the public so that new startups can fill the void. Infosys and friends can see how well SaaS and other insanely overpriced abstract IT rubbish sell to people who can't keep the lights on and who think proper sanitation is shitting in fields and on beaches.
Oh that patronizing response again. I don't remember your side "getting over it" when you were the losers. We got to look at your "Impeach Obama" bumper stickers and the rest of your crap for eight years.
Guess what. We're not going away. So you can just Shut The Fuck Up with your "get over it" crap. We're totally going to be in your fucking face for the next 45 months. Get used to it.
Everybody knows it is not about "better" candidates, it is about "cheaper" candidates. You are nothing but an Infosys, TCS, [fill in any staffing agency here] shill.
STFU
Why do slashdotters hate government clampdowns on freedoms except when it comes to H1B visas? I fucking hate the hypocrisy of it all.
Unrestrained capitalism is frankly an insane idea. What businesses are allowed to do should be well regulated to prevent disastrous outcomes like rivers catching fire. What people want is the government to keep them safe from corporations that frankly wouldn't mind if you died suffering as a direct result of their actions. What people don't want is the government interfering with the civil liberties of individuals.
If you have a problem with H1B tech workers then make yourself a better candidate, FFS.
If you bring the individual worker having to compete on a global scale to it's logical conclusion, it means that Americans have accept the lowest standard of living of any country. That doesn't seem like a good thing for anyone but the rich.
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Putting an "Impeach Trump" bumper sticker on your car won't get it keyed - it takes no balls to do that.
But putting a "Darwin" fish on my first car (a 1960 Dodge Dart) was enough to get my car scratched up by the fuckhead who stole it, presumably because they were offended that I put some reality on the back of a classic American car.
Get it straight, if conservatives had balls, they wouldn't be afraid of equality.
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I'm happy to take a lower salary if it helps people out in the slums of India.
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So it's OK for dad to lie to Americans? And it's OK for dad's supervisors lie to Americans? Your dad isn't alone in taking my wrath. Our pinko and chief has said, "America First." H1B visas put America NOT first. I've worked with Ginness's, they don't need to be "trained" to do their job. But for some magical reason, Disney's mickey mouse managers, and SoCal-Eddy's-Son have to train H1B visa holders, then the trainers are fired/lay-off/what-ever.
Bullshit!!!!!
You haven't actually talked to those Indians about their backgrounds.
All those H1B Indians come from wealthy Indian families. Those dirt poor Indians simply don't have the opportunity to get a degree and get to the USA.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
In that case nobody should ever emigrate anywhere.
Why did your ancestors go to the country you are in now?
Yes, and while you keep shouting USA USA USA and USA First, the rest of the world will simply go USA last.
Why should any other country take US made goods ?
Its only worth $2 Trillion to the US economy
Likewise, people from all around the world are avoiding the USA now, hundreds of billion is lost revenue from Tourists
The USA makes up 4% of the worlds population and 20% of the worlds GDP, Asia makes up over 60% of the population, Chinas GDP is already bigger than the US and it will not be too many years before the EU is bigger too, and Asia is where all the consumer growth is, does the USA want to be locked out of that ? Tell us what happens when Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Twitter, HP, Dell, Amazon, Walmart, etc etc etc get locked out of Asia, it may well be the Americans go to Asia to find jobs. Alibaba is already massively more profitable than Amazon.
If progtards had brains, they wouldn't equate racial and sexual quotas with equality.
Oh, we've gone from libtards to progtards. How droll. Shall I call you a conservitard in return? How about I just cut to the chase and call you a plain old retard? (Thanks to Twitler we're long past the need to be politically correct.)
I'm happy to have you call me a libtard or a progtard because I know it means instead of spouting whatever tripe President Brannon, Kellyann, and Vladimir tell you to think, I can think for myself. I know my side doesn't need to resort to nonsense like gerrymandering election districts, or passing laws to inhibit and intimidate voters, or any of the other dirty tricks your side uses to rig elections. When your side stops that shit I'll start taking you seriously again. You and your side's "win at any cost even though we're the minority" mentality proves to me that you're morally bankrupt. And the fact that you post as AC just further confirms to me how broken you really are.
I haven't heard of French parents scaling the walls of a school to help their kids cheat in exams.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
they're the Indian middle class. I don't know why it's so hard for Americans to understand that India has a middle class. They're a country of over a billion people.
These aren't refugees from poverty, they're mostly folks coming over here to take advantage of the currency differences with the plan to go back home with fat stacks of cash. A lot don't because they have kids, they kids put down roots and they stay around. But they're not escaping poverty. If you want those guys than ban the Indians are let the Syrians in. They're not just escaping poverty, they're escaping genocide.
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and he's got the power to do it via Executive Orders. He won the election by a hair's breath and part of that was tech workers who want their jobs back. It's not unreasonable to expect a man who's portrayed as a great negotiator and who's party controls a super majority in Congress could get some Executive Orders done. American Tech workers are suffering now. They don't want to wait another year, two or 4. If they wanted to be patient they could have thrown their lot in with Hilary.
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people want the government to keep _them_ safe. Them. No the other guy. The other guy just needs to work harder and stop leaching off them.
The best quote I've heard in years came from a CNN pundit calling Rick Santorum to task over his opposition to Medicaid for the poor. She said Nobody's a Conservative when it comes to their family. She was right, too.
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Problem is.... the H1B program is really only valuable to a company that plans on abusing it.
If you're a typical small or mid-sized business with a need for technical employees, it doesn't make sense to try to hire foreigners who have thick accents / language barriers, as well as a work history that's often a total "unknown" (since you can't just skim a resume and get an idea of their skills and knowledge based on who they worked for previously -- because you're likely not that familiar with any foreign firms they worked for).
I've worked my whole life in I.T. and know for a fact there are plenty of Americans with solid expertise in various parts of the field. I can barely imagine a scenario where nobody in America is competent in what's needed, while someone from over in India is just who they need? It's all about getting budget priced labor and nothing more.
At the end of the day, sure -- we're all human beings and have similar wants, needs, and hopes / desires. You can make an appeal to emotions about someone, anywhere in the world, who is in an unfortunate situation. But most of those are the result of the government their country is ruled by. America, for all of its faults, is still pretty good about ensuring its citizens enjoy a top-tier lifestyle. That doesn't mean we "owe" it to everyone else on the planet who'd like to come here and get in on the action.
But but but Trump said he was going to "eliminate" or "radically scale back" the H1-B program. Don't tell me he was fibbing!
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Have you considered the possibility that lowering the number of technology workers coming to the USA from India would help India?
Think about it this way, these people coming to the USA for work are supposed to be the best and brightest in the world. If they weren't the best in the world then employers would find someone better elsewhere. If these people leave India then we've now deprived India of their intelligence, education, and work ethic.
These visiting workers might send money home for their family but that would not help India near as much as if they were doing this work in their home nation. While they are working in the USA they are mentoring people in the USA, depriving India further of their intelligence and education. If these people had stayed in India then they'd be training the next generation of technology workers, people that are currently living in the slums of India.
For the sake of the people in India I believe we should stop importing workers from there. I'd be willing to have co-workers of lesser intelligence and education if it helps out people in the slums of India.
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Unrestrained capitalism is frankly an insane idea.
It's interesting, really. Every time I see some left-winger bitching about the terrible effects of unrestrained capitalism or such they're actually bitching about cronyism, which is a very different beast.
H-1B visas aren't issued by business. They're government interference in a market. In a truly free market (and we're really talking about "free markets" rather than "capitalism") there aren't enough tech people so the salaries go up until more people want to get into the field and it reaches a sort of stasis. In a cronyist environment there aren't enough tech workers and their salaries are too high so the cronyist whines to the government which then allows them to bring people from much poorer countries over at dramatically lower wages to kill two birds with one stone - lower the average salary and have more workers.
Geeze. This is like right-wingers who think that drugs cause street gang violence.
Do you have ESP?
He actually meant that he's happier with you taking a lower salary.
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