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McDonald's Is Now Accepting Snapchats As Job Applications (thenextweb.com)

McDonald's Australian subsidiary is now accepting job applications via Snapchat. Specifically, McDonald's wants potential candidates to send the company a 10-second video using a filter that shows them wearing a McDonald's uniform. Matthew Hughes reports via The Next Web: The job applications, which McDonalds calls "Snaplications" (I vomited a little), will be the first step in the recruitment process. The company will then review the submissions, pick out the favorites, and send digital applications to those selected. Speaking to Australian news website news.com.au, McDonald's Australia COO Shaun Ruming said the company is looking for applicants with a "bubbly personality." He also added that he'd "learned a lot about Snapchat recently from my 14-year-old daughter."

155 comments

  1. Never go full retard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q

  2. What a coincidence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    His 14 year old daughter learned a lot from SnapChat. >:)

  3. Re:Only apps can app apps! by lucm · · Score: 1, Troll

    I admire your persistence.

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  4. Shaun Ruming said the company is looking for by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    porn

    1. Re:Shaun Ruming said the company is looking for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know some of the intent was in jest, but this can also end very poorly. If underage nudes are submitted, it would make McDonald's a solicitor of child pornography.

  5. That's what you do by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    I suppose that's what you have to do to hire people that don't even know how to fill out an application.

    1. Re:That's what you do by Spazmania · · Score: 2

      Years ago a McDonalds manager conducted an interview a couple tables away as I ate a late lunch. Have you ever worked before? No. Do you have the two items for the I-9 form? No. Do you know your social security number? No. Okay, well get those things and come back.

      Then an assistant manager came over. The manager says to her, "If he comes back, we'll probably hire him because he can speak English."

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    2. Re: That's what you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad they actually checked for him being a legal worker, much less actually saying "no" until he got his papers in order.

    3. Re: That's what you do by Imrik · · Score: 4, Funny

      Would be silly for them to hire illegals that can't even take the basic steps to get forged papers.

    4. Re: That's what you do by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      this is McDonalds and not jays burger shack.

    5. Re: That's what you do by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Now maybe I'm not understanding correctly but shouldn't forged papers be made of some kind of metal, not paper?

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    6. Re: That's what you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at you, with your fancy name.

    7. Re:That's what you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Years ago a McDonalds manager conducted an interview a couple tables away as I ate a late lunch. Have you ever worked before? No. Do you have the two items for the I-9 form? No. Do you know your social security number? No. Okay, well get those things and come back.

      Then an assistant manager came over. The manager says to her, "If he comes back, we'll probably hire him because he can speak English."

      I am surprised they didn't say "check on our website" which is what they say to all the hobos that come in and ask if thy are hiring.

    8. Re: That's what you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now maybe I'm not understanding correctly but shouldn't forged papers be made of some kind of metal, not paper?

      Aluminum foil!

    9. Re:That's what you do by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Then an assistant manager came over. The manager says to her, "If he comes back, we'll probably hire him because he can speak English."

      And why not? Have you watched them work behind the counter at McDonald's? It's unskilled labor. It's basically about making the assembly line move as fast as possible. So if workers don't need skills beyond speaking a little English and being able to learn how to work a couple machines, why not hire anyone who's willing and legal? People love to complain about unemployed immigrants and minorities, but how are they supposed to stop being chronically unemployed if they can't even get in on the ground floor (or subbasement floor)?

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  6. Just Asking For It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Couldn't this turn into a trivial discrimination lawsuit against McDonalds if they were doing it in USA?

    1. Re:Just Asking For It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if the normal process is still running.

    2. Re:Just Asking For It by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Couldn't this turn into a trivial discrimination lawsuit against McDonalds if they were doing it in USA?

      In what way is this illegal discrimination? He said they are looking for "bubbly personalities". In America, calm boring non-bubbly people are not a protected class, so it is legal to discriminate against them.

    3. Re:Just Asking For It by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Usually, HR will prioritize job applications so that anyone qualified that falls within an under-represented protected class will be placed at the top of the list, or be automatically given an interview.

      Also, if the applicant is not from a protected class and is good looking, HR can just filter out that particular application/video (and legally practice reverse discrimination) before it even gets to the manager, or to the franchise owner (because it's usually those folks doing the discrimination, not the trained HR expert who is sitting hundreds of miles away from the actual restaurant in question).

    4. Re:Just Asking For It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meanwhile at McDick's HQ

      "Black, indian, black, arab, feather indian, mexican, boobs are too small, too old, tranny, pregnant... Ah here we go, blonde bombshell with big knockers!"

    5. Re:Just Asking For It by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      There is a difference between a bubbly personality vs just a friendly welcoming one.
      I know we are supposed to hate McDonald's. It is the first job many of us get when we are teenagers where we find out that being a unique snowflake doesn't seem to matter and you need to follow the script of your job. Where you need to dress in unflattering uniform and find that the fast food that you loved isn't cooked with the love and care that your parents did at home. It is the entry level of entry level jobs.
      But you how you deal with this humbling experience can afftet your life. And overall it isn't that bad compared to the alternative for no skilles and experience jobs. Where the only real requirement is just being able to present yourself professionally.

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    6. Re:Just Asking For It by gsslay · · Score: 1

      Cambridge English Dictionary ;
      bubbly: - (especially of a woman or girl) attractively full of energy and enthusiasm

      It could be argued that "bubbly personalities" is code for "young, pretty and female". So that's age, sex and attractiveness discrimination. Particularly when they are vetting applications based on a tiny video where very little can be determined apart from age, gender and appearance.

      Of course, whether such discrimination is legal or not depends on where you are.

    7. Re:Just Asking For It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      blonde bombshell with big knockers!

      ...is not working at McD's dude.

    8. Re: Just Asking For It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he meant Hooters.

      Damn I want some wings now, and boobs. You eat more if you are horny.

  7. How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Vetting candidates based on a short video is essentially picking based on appearance, since that is the only information the medium can convey.

    I thought there were strong anti-discrimination laws preventing companies from hiring based on factors related to and including appearance: age, skin color, attractiveness, height, race, etc...

    1. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe call it preinterview. you can see the personality and how they seem to comunicate and also give it said they were looking for bubbly person. i dont really see anything discriminatory per say unless you think looking for skill set and personality is a bad discrimination. all interviews and applications are discriminatory with its general meaning.

    2. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically, if the applicant is wearing a suicide vest then they don't get an interview. While this will certainly select against muslims, McD can always say it was because their personalities weren't bubbly enough.

    3. Re:How is this legal? by Noble713 · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure how well the laws re: attractiveness are enforced, if at all. How else can businesses like Hooters maintain the expected buxom quality of their staff?

      Complaints about customer service-oriented businesses hiring physically attractive people, especially young females, are kinda unique to the West, while McD's is a global company. Here in Asia, having cute and polite female staff is just assumed pretty much everywhere. There's a night-and-day difference in the customer experience at a Japanese McDonald's and a US one. Same for all the Asian airlines. That PC crap about keeping women past their expiration date doesn't apply here.

    4. Re:How is this legal? by lucm · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's a night-and-day difference in the customer experience at a Japanese McDonald's and a US one.

      Maybe but your porn sucks with all the blurry pixels over the genitals. You priorities are all wrong.

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    5. Re: How is this legal? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Uh.. Any more?

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    6. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump's New America? In Australia?

      You did read the summary, didn't you?

      I hate Twitler as much as most people, but even so, this is so far out in the weeds––

    7. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is legal to choose based on appearance. Otherwise our super models and actors would be middle aged and overweight.
      What next we are not allowed to discriminate on qualifications or intelligence? perhaps you just have to take the first applicant otherwise you are discriminating against them? Some people want to go crazy with this stuff.

    8. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sure Hooters gets away with it by conducting a thorough selection process that addresses all aspects of candidate selection, not just appearance. I assure you that if the only selection criteria was "female with nice tits" there would have been many discrimination suits over the years.

      There may also be a factor related to the nature of the role: for example, selecting models for a photo shoot is obviously based on appearance and would not be interpreted as discriminatory. Selecting a hamburger maker for McDonalds based on appearance is discriminatory.

    9. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this a result of Trump's new America? People just don't give a fuck about each other any more? Or is it OK as long as it's not discrimination against YOU!

      You are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

    10. Re: How is this legal? by segin · · Score: 1

      Buddy, I've been not giving a fuck about my fellow man for nearly 27 years now. The fuck does Trump have to do with it?

    11. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burn in hell, millennial scum.

    12. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buddy, I've been not giving a fuck about my fellow man for nearly 27 years now. The fuck does Trump have to do with it?

      I'll give Trump this: he sure knows how to "tell them what they want to hear" per his book The Art of the Deal."

    13. Re: How is this legal? by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Only a friggin' moron thinks this happened in the last four months.

    14. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've been reading slashdot.org since you were 10. You've only begun to not give a fuck.

    15. Re:How is this legal? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how well the laws re: attractiveness are enforced, if at all.

      There is no law against hiring only attractive people. Ugly people are NOT a protected class under the law. As an ugly person, I think that sucks, since attractive people already have a lot of other advantages in life, but that's the way it is.

      However, if you only hire attractive white people, you will be in big trouble.

    16. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That makes it even worse. Those deemed unfit for the follow on interview are being discriminated against."

      People who riddle their CV with bad grammar, spelling, lack-luster work history and bad educational attainment also are "discriminated against" for getting into the follow-on interview.

      So what's your point?

      The only difference here is that the video of someone will show you information that may not be readily accessible from the CV; their age, race and gender, although generally you can predict a lot of that stuff from a CV anyway (name, years in employment).

    17. Re:How is this legal? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      There are no laws preventing discrimination based on attractiveness. There aren't that many complaints about it that I've seen. And it's legal to explicitly hire people based on appearance. Movies do it all the time.

    18. Re:How is this legal? by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

      It is legal to choose based on appearance. Otherwise our super models and actors would be middle aged and overweight. What next we are not allowed to discriminate on qualifications or intelligence? perhaps you just have to take the first applicant otherwise you are discriminating against them? Some people want to go crazy with this stuff.

      that's industry dependent if i recall correctly. so the reasons hooters gets away with it is because they're an entertainment bar that serves food as opposed to applebees which is a restaurant that serves entertainment.

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    19. Re:How is this legal? by Noble713 · · Score: 1

      I'm not Japanese, I just live here. But yes, censored Japanese porn is terrible. Fortunately, they produce *uncensored* videos, theoretically just for the export market. However, shops are regularly busted for selling the stuff domestically under the counter, and of course all the major free porn sites are awash with "uncensored JAV" vids.

    20. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got it wrong. It's illegal to discriminate based on those factors. It's OK if you hire a nego/spic/chink/whatever instead of a white. Come to think about it, it'a legal requirement that you do that.

    21. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Son! I've said you were grounded! Now go back to your room.

    22. Re:How is this legal? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That PC crap about keeping women past their expiration date doesn't apply here

      I'll take rampant misogyny for 500 please, Alex!

      Women don't have an expiration date. Fortunately, it seems that around here, attitudes such as yours do.

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    23. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women do have an expiration date. It starts either at or around the age of thirty. After that, there's no reason to pursue them if you want to start a family; it's better to go after younger women.

    24. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So what's your point?"

      You have no idea.

      Right, if you (yes, I mean *you*) interview someone for a position and you deem them either worthy, or not worthy, for the position, ***and you have made your decision against the criteria of the position*** then everything is well in the world.

      However, if you choose someone based on factors outside of the criteria for the position, then you are in breach of discrimination laws.

      As such, if your company is willing to post publicly that their policy is to **only hire white people** and you then do so, then you may be OK (pending public outcry) however, the government also regards certain unalienable rights that companies are unable to discriminate against.

      The fact that you don't know this, yet are old enough to use a computer and post on the internet, scares the fuck out of me...

    25. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect if you read the laws of most western countries they will state that discriminating based on appearance is acceptable only for those positions for which the way you look is a requirement. E.g. if you are being interviewed for telephone support then having shiny hair is not a valid requirement, although voice characteristics might be.

    26. Re:How is this legal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Maybe but your porn sucks with all the blurry pixels over the genitals. You priorities are all wrong.

      Given some of what goes on in Japanese videos, just blurring out the genitals is simply not going far enough.

    27. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo hook me up with a hit. I'm jonesing.

    28. Re: How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PM me your favorite hentai - Twitch chat

    29. Re:How is this legal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone whose life was just recently fucked up by starting a family with a woman of 40, yes, the parent poster is correct. Any woman over 30, not actively raising her own children, is **dead fucking wood**. Disregard them and move on...

    30. Re:How is this legal? by Noble713 · · Score: 1

      Women don't have an expiration date.

      So what do you call this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      And before that hits, there is the obvious decline in their physical attractiveness that tends to begin around age 30. Some call it "when women hit the wall". It can be delayed somewhat via a healthy diet, physical fitness, and stable mental health...or terrible decisions (IMO) like plastic surgery. But it doesn't change that men are visual creatures, we are primarily driven by a woman's looks, and so our interest (and the sexual market value of any individual woman) declines precipitously in their 30's as their looks and remaining fertility fade. Why else do you think we see so many articles, WRITTEN BY WOMEN, about how they are single and unhappy? Just as a sample:
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/deb...
      https://www.psychologytoday.co...
      http://www.thenational.ae/life...

  8. Millennial prejudice projections. by Hylandr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When it's very clear we are being told how we should view news articles with a pre-judgement inserted into the article heading.

    (I vomited a little)

    It may be cheesy, but not puke worthy. We are talking about the employee application process not their food.

    to the OP: Why not let the public discuss and decide what they will without injecting your own immature opinions before they have had a chance to RTFA?

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    1. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you read the article you would realize he's quoting the article. The article is "immature", then, by your standards - not the OP.

    2. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you read the article you would realize [...]

      You must be new here.

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    3. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Said the guy with a high user number. Trust me you're still new here. If your number isn't below 10K you are very new here.

    4. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      The job applications, which McDonalds calls "Snaplications" (I vomited a little), will be the first step in the recruitment process.

      On that note, I'm kind of glad that the OP is not applying for that job.

    5. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by lucm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you know who has a truly "high user number"? Your mom's vagina.

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    6. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it's very clear we are being told how we should view news articles with a pre-judgement inserted into the article heading.

      (I vomited a little)

      It may be cheesy, but not puke worthy. We are talking about the employee application process not their food.

      to the OP: Why not let the public discuss and decide what they will without injecting your own immature opinions before they have had a chance to RTFA?

      You know what's even more immature? Not reading the fucking article and then chastising others for doing nothing more than quoting someone else.

      Oh, and for the record, the word "snaplication" is so fucking cheesy and puke-worthy it's only overshadowed by the fact that we're using now social media gimmicks to hire employees.

    7. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      HAHA no mod points but if i did +Funny for sure!

    8. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Okay, so lucm has a second account he uses to mod himself funny. Because that isn't funny. It's childish. I'm glad you're proud of it, but the rest of us are just palm to forehead. Wow, you said his mom was promiscuous. So clever. Such wit.

    9. Re:Millennial prejudice projections. by bluegutang · · Score: 1

      Says the guy with a user number of infinity...

  9. Re: Great News For Outsourced IT Workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hmm McDs will probably go to a kiosk robotic assembly line. its all the same to me.

  10. WTF is Snapchat? by Nunya666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Never mind, since I'm not the target audience, anyway.

    1. Re:WTF is Snapchat? by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      Don't be obtuse. It's an image sharing application with 160M daily users that just IPO'd for $30 billion. If you pay any attention to tech or financial news, you've heard of it.

    2. Re:WTF is Snapchat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Image sharing? I thought it was a chat program.

  11. Ulterior motives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a sneaky way to filter based on race and appearance.

  12. i wonder if his daughter taught him this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He also added that he'd "learned a lot about Snapchat recently from my 14-year-old daughter

    I wonder if his daughter taught him that snapchat is a closed and proprietary method of communication that is completely outside the control of either the sender or the receiver, and because of that is not even available on many kinds of computing platforms that applicants may be using. As opposed to open standards which work on any semi-modern device so would not lock out people not owning the brands "blessed" by the company that makes snapchat.

    Hopefully his daughter teaches him that.

    1. Re:i wonder if his daughter taught him this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure that post means you do not have a "bubbly personality."

    2. Re:i wonder if his daughter taught him this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur. Insufficiently bubbly. Mark him as defective and send him to the salt mines.

    3. Re:i wonder if his daughter taught him this. by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that post means you do not have a "bubbly personality."

      you don't know that. ask him over TCP/IP and maybe you can find out.

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  13. Plot Twist by n329619 · · Score: 1

    Those applicants with "bubbly personality" are boys.

  14. They want hot chicks by Snotnose · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're over 20, not hot, not female, don't bother applying.

    1. Re:They want hot chicks by lucm · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're confusing Mikee Dees and Starbucks.

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    2. Re:They want hot chicks by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're confusing Mikee Dees and Starbucks.

      no starbucks'll hire hot guy baristas.

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    3. Re:They want hot chicks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course!
      If you cant provide anything good to eat, at least provide something good to look at.

      10/10 would go again!

    4. Re:They want hot chicks by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      It's MacDonalds. Hot isn't a requirement, still warm will do.

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    5. Re:They want hot chicks by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You realise they are asking for videos overlaid with a lameness filter, and not just take a fish face selfie in some underwear.

    6. Re:They want hot chicks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're over 20, not hot, not female, don't bother applying.

      Maybe they should be using Tindr?

  15. and send digital applications to those selected by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Wow. What an honor it must be in Australia to win the ability to apply to MickyD for a job.

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  16. apk by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Maybe APK can get a real job now.

    1. Re:apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody will hire a moron that relies upon nearly 20-years old outdated technology for security.

    2. Re:apk by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Nobody will hire a moron that relies upon nearly 20-years old outdated technology for security.

      Until said technology breaks (or more likely, some new technology can't interface with it) and they're in a panic:

      Why do we still have this?
      What does it do?
      Who's in charge of it?
      How much will it cost to replace it?
      Why can't the new system handle everything the old system did?
      Who do we have to hire to fix it?
      Why did we contract with IBM/Oracle/Whoever for the transition?
      Why did they sell us this product if it only meets 15% of our needs and the rest has to be custom developed?
      When you said the data conversion job was pushed back 3 months, were you referring to the same delay from the report that was distributed to a select few group of PHBs last month, or is this is a new delay?
      Why is it delayed again? Will this delay change the availability of the test data?
      Well who knows?! Call them now and find out!
      Well what fucking time zone is India in? We can't meet our testing validation requirements without access to the data!
      Well why can't the just start with the historical data and we'll check it as they process it?
      What do you mean they only committed to 1 year of historical data? How can we replace our old system without converting the historical data?
      What does the new delay mean for historical data? Do we have 1 year back from the original timeline until launch or does the delay impact the historical data window?
      How can they charge us for the historical window that just fell off the chart because of their delay if they're not going to give it to us?
      What fucking work are they claiming they did? We haven't seen anything out of them!

      Much of this is actual shit (slightly redacted/fuzzed), going on right now where I work.

    3. Re:apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much of (most of?) outsourcing is a scam. Not sure about all.
      The goal is to profit 90% of the time, even with a 90% project failure rate.
      It's an unsustainable rot on the industry.

  17. /* TODO: Insert Subject */ by m0hawk · · Score: 1

    This is not that different to the usual hiring process where you screen resumes and then do personal screening, ie interviews.

    In this case it is the other way around. Of course a 10 second video isn't the same as a personal interview, but I wouldn't be surprised if 10 seconds is all a Manager needs to decide whether they want to hire you or not.

    I rarely ever buy McDonalds but I applaud them for trying something new that appeals generally to younger people, who they seem to hire most.

    If it works, great, if it doesn't, that's ok too.

    1. Re:/* TODO: Insert Subject */ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "This is not that different to the usual hiring process where you screen resumes and then do personal screening, ie interviews."

      Jesus Christ, you fucking morons!

      It is very fundamentally different to the usual process. Screening resumes (that contain work history data) is completely different to screening photos, or sort videos, of applicants. Completely fucking different.

      Yes, the selection panel sees the applicants during interview, but they are to ask questions about the job. The panel is not allowed to reject an applicant based on appearance, and if they "don't like someone" then they (being professionals) can list all of the reasons, based on their professional experience, personality, and attitude.

      All of this applies equally to McDonalds or a six-figure manager or senior engineer.

  18. Discrimination? by exigentsky · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't this greatly bias the process (age, gender, ethnicity)? If this were happening in tech, we'd scream bloody murder. I'm sure Australia has different laws than the US.

    1. Re:Discrimination? by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      You can make exactly the same broad generalizations on a face-to-face interview as you can on a video. So, no.

    2. Re:Discrimination? by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

      You can make exactly the same broad generalizations on a face-to-face interview as you can on a video. So, no.

      yes but in person you can counter-balance those biases. Once you're there for the interview you're there for the interview. This is like a casting couch and someone comes out and picks who gets to come in to the interview based on how [insert physical attribute here] they are. You may look hideous in person but with an in-person interview you have a chance to provide something more than that you can make conversation, you can show knowledge, you can answer questions. With a snapchat application you have 10 seconds.

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    3. Re:Discrimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Black guy "I have a college degree in maths, I won the Mental Math Speed Competition of 2014 and again in 2016, I also worked a roulette table at a casino and my employer will tell you that I can sort thousands of dollars of loose change in minutes. You want someone to work a register, I'm the best choice in the state."

      >Later that day

      Trash "Y'all welcome to Mickys hyuck hyuck hyuck don't give me any o' them big orders I can't count over fifty hyuck!"

      Black guy "..."

    4. Re:Discrimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly in that situation my response to the black guy would be, "You're clearly way over qualified for this position, why are you applying here? I'll give you a job if you're desperate, but really, you can do better." And that response is based soley on his qualifications. Replace 'black' with any other descriptor and I'd give the same response.

      Remember, this is McDonalds, not some place that requires skill.

    5. Re:Discrimination? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Age discrimination = "What's Snapchat?"

  19. loopholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They can call it casting. Where employees entertain and help out the guests. At least that's how Disney gets away with it in their theme parks.

  20. Discrimination City by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have to staff exhibit booths a few times a year. I absolutely hate that applicants treat it as a modeling job and send me their photos. My wife hates it too :-) .

    I ask that they be capable of standing for 8 hours per day for three days straight, and that they be well dressed, well groomed, and personable. I will always hire the smart ones (you'd be surprised how many folks with a Masters or Ph.D. are looking for weekend work), and they rarely are the model folks.

    I started putting "NO PHOTOS" in my ads a while back. I am thinking of asking folks to use a first initial and not indicate their gender, just to see what happens.

    1. Re:Discrimination City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well dressed, well groomed, and personable. I will always hire the smart ones (you'd be surprised how many folks with a Masters or Ph.D. are looking for weekend work)

      Nope. I'm too smart to dress up and groom to impress your idiot associates, and there sure as shit is no way I'm wasting my weekend working for you. Fuck you, Bruce.

    2. Re:Discrimination City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well he is an idiot for being frustrated that booth job applicants send in headshots. Might as well be angry at car salesman for showing off vehicle features. Plus that whole intelligence necessitates an advanced degree. Odd for a person that does not have one and occasionally insinuates he does in his pubic facing media.

    3. Re:Discrimination City by sexconker · · Score: 2

      I'm with the "fuck you, Bruce" camp, but only because I would prefer it if his name were Bruce Parens or possibly Bruce (Parens).
      Such a missed opportunity, Bruce.

    4. Re:Discrimination City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, for me, regarding McDonalds employees, "bubbly personality" is less important than "washes hands after using bathroom" and "doesn't spit in the food".

      Now, all else being equal, "bubbly" is probably less likely to spit in the food than "sullen and hating the world". But a grandmother who's focused on feeding her family, but isn't all cute and bubbly, also seem unlikely to be spitting in the food.

      Fundamentally, some degree of integrity and trustworthiness would be what I would look for in a McDonalds employee.

    5. Re:Discrimination City by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      1. Doesn't anyone here know Latin?

      2. The plural of parenthesis is parentheses.

      3. We need trolls with higher IQs. These ones are just boring.

    6. Re:Discrimination City by sexconker · · Score: 1

      1: Whoosh.
      2: "Paren" is a common abbreviation of parenthesis.
      3: We need people with a sense of humor.

  21. Regarding Video Employment Agencies: by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

    Next!

  22. Humiliation by sinij · · Score: 2

    I see this as going down the path of subjecting applicants to public humiliation to apply for menial jobs.

    This is what post-labor world looks like.

    1. Re:Humiliation by geekmux · · Score: 1

      I see this as going down the path of subjecting applicants to public humiliation to apply for menial jobs. This is what post-labor world looks like.

      The radio industry been subjecting interns to public humiliation as part of the permanent hiring process for decades now.

      The MTV "Jackass" crew built an entire empire doing this kind of shit to each other, as their main job.

      This gimmick ain't new by any means.

  23. You can tell a lot more than appeal from video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Vetting candidates based on a short video is essentially picking based on appearance

    While it could be, there are a ton of things you can pick up quickly from a short video that go beyond appearance.

    Just from a few minutes of speech you can easily tell if someone is reasonably intelligent, you could tell if they had the kind of personality that would let them work a register, you could tel generally how seriously they took work by what they chose to wear for the video.

    I have to think you could also treat it as a rough drug test because some people are just really spacey when they are talking.

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    1. Re:You can tell a lot more than appeal from video by GumphMaster · · Score: 2

      Just from a few minutes of speech ...

      They only get 10 seconds and are looking for expression of "bubbly personality," not a discussion of the state of political discourse in Australia (which, I grant, could be summed up in a dire 10 seconds). I would expect more dancing fool than verbal analysis... but then I am way outside the target demographic. The whole thing is like an uncontrolled version of Virgin Australia looking for "whacky zany" when interviewing prospective cabin crew.

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    2. Re:You can tell a lot more than appeal from video by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Even in ten seconds you can tell how generally intelligent someone is.

      I would expect more dancing fool than verbal analysis

      Even THAT would be an indicator of intelligence.

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  24. And management? by s.petry · · Score: 1

    Will be using an okaycupid clone. Swipe left for candidates you dislike, swipe right to hire. The new motto? "U dserv a brak 2day".

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  25. Re: Great News For Outsourced IT Workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think she's fucking Ben Gozzi on the side. Those two are always in the news together.

  26. Re:Only apps can app apps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    He's got my vote.

    Apps 2020!

  27. Re: Only apps can app apps! by sheramil · · Score: 2

    MOOOOOOOOOO! You forgot to say MOOOOOOOOOO!

  28. This has an easy solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Generate McDonalds job application
    Photograph the application
    Upload the photograph of the application to Snapchat
    Apply the McDonalds uniform filter to the photographed application
    Submit.

  29. The actual filtering process by Imrik · · Score: 2

    So basically this filters for people that already own a McD uniform and thus are probably on file and don't need the company to pay for one, or people that someone who owns a uniform knows and thinks should work at McD.

    1. Re:The actual filtering process by cmseagle · · Score: 1

      send the company a 10-second video using a filter that shows them wearing a McDonald's uniform.

      Snapchat has filters that overlay images on your videos. McDonalds is asking applicants to use one of those - not to buy a uniform.

    2. Re:The actual filtering process by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So basically this filters for people that already own a McD uniform

      I think what it filters is slashdot commentators who don't know how snapchat works.

    3. Re:The actual filtering process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL

  30. No no no. Use proper protocol for proper job by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

    don't write books by text, don't share screen shots by post, don't use your stapler to hammer nails. You can do all of those things but why would you? Technology exists for a reason. A scythe was designed to cut down grass in large amounts using it to cut down a single or tens of blades at once is moronic. Using Snapchat as a chatting protocol is already bad. It's a terrible chat program unless you're talking to a mistress, using it for job applications is even worse. Nothing about Snapchat makes it easier to apply for a job.

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    1. Re:No no no. Use proper protocol for proper job by dbIII · · Score: 1

      All true but it's a situation where the bar is set very low and does not need to be set any higher.
      Years back in high school my application for work in a fast food chicken place was nowhere near as formal as even snapchat. It was less than a minute on the phone, most of which was taken with when and where to turn up for the interview.

  31. The Chicken/Egg Problem by subk · · Score: 1

    If the snaplicant hasn't been hired yet, how would they have a McDonald's uniform in which to perform the snaplication?

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    1. Re:The Chicken/Egg Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you don't use snapchat. (I imagine) the uniform is projected onto you in the app, much like most of snapchat's filters or whatever they are.

      It's basically a digital uniform that is applied to the picture/video.

  32. They turned their applications into Tinder by marko123 · · Score: 1

    They get a physical look at prospective applicants before they look at their resume. Well played, McDonalds. No ugly front-end people.

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    1. Re:They turned their applications into Tinder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn straight. Their burgers are ugly enough as it is, may as well have some eye candy doing the front end work to take your mind off the repulsive "food".

    2. Re:They turned their applications into Tinder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they can automate the cooking, then might as well, since most of the job is automatic, so that the only thing employees need to do is look pretty

  33. Re:Great News For Outsourced IT Workers by dohzer · · Score: 1

    I'm reasonably sure H1B is not an Australian thing. But anyway.

  34. Dance, dance for us monkey by Oxygen99 · · Score: 1

    And maybe we'll toss you a minimum wage menial job for your humiliation.

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    1. Re:Dance, dance for us monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can't be arsed to do anything more than tap two buttons on your phone as part of your job search, then minimum wage menial job is about all that you deserve.

    2. Re:Dance, dance for us monkey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putting aside the consideration that this is Australia, rather than the US, the underlying principle is the same: since the people they are looking for are school kids who'd just be earning pocket money, as opposed to professionals looking to support a family, the minimum wage is perfectly appropriate for such jobs. People looking to pay their monthly bills shouldn't be applying for these jobs in the first place

  35. Not the snapchat filter you are looking for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll go out on a limb and guess that very few people want to see what they look like wearing a fast food chain's uniform. Not unless McD's change their uniform to be some kind of sexy Nazi-themed PVC outfit for the duration of the promotion.

  36. Re:It's enough for any leftard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope, those 3 fields shoud be:
    - Name
    - Born gender
    - Work experience

  37. The future is here by BadTuna · · Score: 1

    Just another metric in dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.

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  38. Why cut the linked article there ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The part of the article after the /. summary ends is telling.

    "The whole thing feels like a gimmick – an awkward, insincere, clumsy gimmick at that."

  39. Genius - automatically deleting applications by devjoe · · Score: 1

    Everybody knows most job applications just get thrown in the trash anyway. McD's has automated this by using a service that automatically throws away applications after somebody views them once.

  40. Re:Great News For Outsourced IT Workers by mjwx · · Score: 1

    I'm reasonably sure H1B is not an Australian thing. But anyway.

    In Australia its called a Visa Subclass 457 or just "457" for short.

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  41. Ding fries are done by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

    I just wonder how long it is until people start submitting "Ding fries are done" videos.

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  42. Re: Great News For Outsourced IT Workers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "could of been" is NEVER correct

  43. Excellent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are a few people I have to go film and then apply that filter to before our noon meeting.

  44. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guess illiteracy is a bonus for those high level jobs at McDonald's now. No wonder they keep fucking up my orders. Bloody dumbest thing I've ever seen.

  45. Millenials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And millenials are complaining they cant find jobs...

  46. functionally illiterate by sdinfoserv · · Score: 1

    I guess that's one way to get around a system that no longer is able to teach kids effective grammar. They can just send a video and talk about themselves.

  47. ATTACK OF THE 5.2 FOOT PLASTIC PEOPLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they want a bunch of fake shiny-happies who 'look good' in a Mickey-Dees uniform. Fuck it, just have
    robots working the front, much less creepy that way.

  48. What...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    McDonald's Australia COO Shaun Ruming said the company is looking for applicants with a "bubbly personality." He also added that he'd "learned a lot about Snapchat recently from my 14-year-old daughter"####

    I hope this retard never comes anywhere near my
    place of employment.

    "oooh, I heard about Snapchat from my teenybopper
    daughter! Sounds Kewl!!!!!11!!1one. Lets use this to discr^Whire our new employees!!!111!!1x = 100 / 100!!1"

  49. You lose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bruce is making fun of you in a way you can't understand. You have to be able to conjugate Latin verbs.