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Investigation Finds Inmates Built Computers, Hid Them In Prison Ceiling (cbs6albany.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from WRGB: The discovery of two working computers hidden in a ceiling at the Marion Correctional Institution prompted an investigation by the state into how inmates got access. In late July, 2015 staff at the prison discovered the computers hidden on a plywood board in the ceiling above a training room closet. The computers were also connected to the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction's network. Authorities say they were first tipped off to a possible problem in July, when their computer network support team got an alert that a computer "exceeded a daily internet usage threshold." When they checked the login being used, they discovered an employee's credentials were being used on days he wasn't scheduled to work. That's when they tracked down where the connection was coming from and alerted Marion Correctional Institution of a possible problem. Investigators say there was lax supervision at the prison, which gave inmates the ability to build computers from parts, get them through security checks, and hide them in the ceiling. The inmates were also able to run cabling, connecting the computers to the prison's network. Furthermore, "investigators found an inmate used the computers to steal the identify of another inmate, and then submit credit card applications, and commit tax fraud," reports WRGB. "They also found inmates used the computers to create security clearance passes that gave them access to restricted areas."

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  1. H1B Visa? by TFlan91 · · Score: 5, Funny

    H1B Visa cheap labor? Pft. Just look at home and hire some inmates

    1. Re:H1B Visa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Used to be that Dell would use prison labor directly to recycle computers and do tech support. These days UNICOR resells the labor, so any scrutiny is on some faceless corp rather than the corp getting the benefits.

      So yeah, that labor pool is already tapped for silicon valley.

      Real fun is we get to accuse silicon valley corps of doing what we all knew they were doing all along; using software to build poverty traps which in turn break up families and drive up crime so they can hire the criminals for peanuts.

    2. Re:H1B Visa? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is an argument that the American prisons are a disguised version of modern slavery. They perform an *enormous* of manufacturing for which the prisoners receive no wages. And since the prisons are run by private companies they are run for profit, so it's not just to cover their own costs. There is no other country in the world in which such a large percentage of its population is locked up. And thanks to the 3-strikes rule some of them are there for very offences - there are prisoners with a life sentence where they had 2 relatively minor crimes followed by something as trivial as shoplifting. There is also a racial aspect to it as something like 90% of prisoners are non-white.

    3. Re: H1B Visa? by sdinfoserv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Someone writes bad checks over $1000 dollars because they're hard on they're luck and making bad choices:
      1 felony,
      Released on bail,
      Got a job as part of release agreement
      Missed 2 court appearances - failure to appear on a felony is a felony
      2 more felonies - now total 3 felonies; 3 strikes rule kicks in and they're gone for life for being down an out and a bad desperate choice.

      Nice system we have.

    4. Re:H1B Visa? by Captain+Linger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's not untrue, but it ain't true either. It basically depends on what era and what system you're asking about whiteness. 55% are indeed "white"...but that follows Census guidelines, not conventional race reporting statistics.

      The population of *non-Hispanic whites* is 32%, roughly half their comparative incidence in the general population at 62%
      Black men are 37% of the prison population, 12% of general population (a 3x skewing).
      Hispanic men are 22% of the prison population, 17% of the general population.

      In general minorities are incarcerated at twice the rate. Thankfully this conversation hasn't settled into the inevitable straw man idiocy insisting black people commit more crimes or not (they absolutely do, owing to economic circumstances). The situation is tremendously unfair and at a bare minimum profoundly impacts minorities more severely.

    5. Re: H1B Visa? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      2 more felonies - now total 3 felonies; 3 strikes rule kicks in and they're gone for life for being down an out and a bad desperate choice.

      Bullshit. California has the toughest 3-strikes law in the country, and even there two of the three felonies must be serious or violent crimes.

      Kelly Turner went to prison for life for writing a bad check, but the other two convictions were for armed robbery, not "missing an appointment".

      America's prison system has many serious problems. The reality is bad enough without you making up nonsense.

  2. Someone hire them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They sound like better job candidates that the millennial types that come through our doors. US millennials especially, they seem to think they deserve a cookie for knowing very basic things.

    1. Re:Someone hire them... by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, definitely more than the boomers that I regularly see that think they deserve double everyone else's salary for not knowing very basic "computery" things...

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    2. Re: Someone hire them... by Maritz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course, once you know what generation someone is from, you're pretty much done and you don't need to know anything else about them. Because people from a particular generation are all the same. Solid thinking there bud.

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    3. Re:Someone hire them... by peragrin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Boomers don't need computer thingy. Back in their day they didn't need no stinkin computers. Of course back in their day you hired twice as many people because people were cheap and equipment expensive. Now equipment is cheap and people are expensive.

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  3. Motivation is key by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    See? All you need to overcome the most insane obstacles is motivation. Just think of all the things these poor people had to go through to get internet access!

    It's kinda humbling.

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  4. Re:Sweet! by fisted · · Score: 3, Funny

    Don't forget the free sex.

  5. And even worse... by Z80a · · Score: 4, Funny

    They found a pirate copy of doom on the computers, which is the thing that turned em into criminals.

  6. Hire them by ruir · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They seem to be able to get things working, which is better than most...

  7. If this was a movie... by sad_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...we would all be mocking it's unrealistic plot.

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  8. Sad they lost in TLD lottery. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If only they had born in .ua or .ru or even in .ng they would have had flourishing careers as top dons or at least as top henchmen to top dons. Sad they ended up in USA. Their local don, the for-profit-prison industrial complex cronies do not see the value in the phenomenal access they have to local talent.

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  9. Re:Huh? by azcoyote · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA:

    The inmates were able to get the parts from a program where inmates break down computers in order to learn computer skills and recycle the parts.

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  10. Re:Huh? by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the least of your worries.

    Nobody noticed them run cable.
    Nobody noticed them tap into the network.
    Nobody noticed them sticking things up in ceilings.
    Nobody noticed them taking power to run this stuff.
    Nobody noticed them using the machine itself.
    Nobody noticed them take items from classes they were in.
    Nobody noticed them use the system to the extent they could access private information and defraud others.

    (Or were prepared to turn a blind eye to ALL the above).

    The problem with the prison is NOTHING to do with them being able to get hold a computer. It's being able to get hold of ANYTHING, even things brought deliberately into the prison for them to hold, without people noticing. And then being so unsupervised or unmonitored that they can basically build a damn network with nobody noticing. No surveillance. No tracking of movements. No wondering where they are. No noticing absences for potentially hours at a time.

    In that time, they could have done ANYTHING they liked, with a lot worse things than a bit of fraud being possible.

    Nobody noticed. Nobody cared. Nobody checked. Nobody counted. Nobody noticed things missing. Or the guards were bribed / threatened to turn a blind eye. That's your problem. Not what they actually got up to.

  11. Re:Huh? by Coisiche · · Score: 3, Funny

    as if you could join copper pipes, rocks and whatnot together and magically transform it into a computer?

    I'm now speculating how an episode of MacGyver set in a prison would have worked out. And the original MacGyver, not the new one who looks like he'd last nanoseconds in prison.

  12. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    The inmates were able to get the parts from a program where inmates break down computers in order to learn computer skills and recycle the parts.

    Sounds like the program was successful to me...

  13. Re:Huh? by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And on the other side of the spectrum we have Norway, where they will ask what computer the person wants to use.
    Perhaps thinking of them as humans and not as less than animals might have to do something with it.

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  14. credit cards? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    he just looked through the ODRC system for a young inmate with a long sentence, then used his information to get the cards.

    If the bank is giving a credit card to a prison inmate with a long sentence, I feel like there's a moral imperative for someone to take advantage of them, for their own good.

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  15. Re:and we give them a free education by Maritz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, I use actual examples to form my opinion of the world.

    In my experience, fire is always hot, water is always wet, criminals are always criminals.

    --XYZZY--

    So you're incapable of nuanced thought. Well done you.

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  16. Talk about lax security... by design by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    WTF is a prison doing with easily accessible drop ceilings, anyway? That's insane.

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  17. Lifelong learning by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny

    The inmates were able to get the parts from a program where inmates break down computers in order to learn computer skills and recycle the parts.

    To be fair, it seems that this program was a complete success.

  18. Re:and we give them a free education by goose-incarnated · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, I use actual examples to form my opinion of the world.

    In my experience, fire is always hot, water is always wet, criminals are always criminals.

    --XYZZY--

    So you're incapable of nuanced thought. Well done you.

    Lots of people are incapable of nuanced thought. See:

    "basket of deplorables"

    "Trump voters" becomes "racist voters"

    "Unable to support Anita Sarkeesian/Brianna Wu/etc" becomes "Misogynist"

    Oh, wait, you thought you were capable of nuanced thought? That's actually quite hilarious.

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  19. Re:Resume material by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Once you're in prison, I would imagine the bar to increase sentencing is rather high. To increase your sentence, you'd have to go through trial, which means the prison has to file with the DA about crimes you committed in prison. There's a limited amount of discretion on early release, on which the prison wardens can provide input; anything beyond this requires judicial oversight.

    Think about it. If you commit a rape or murder in prison, this needs to go to judiciary review. You need due process to examine the evidence. You're in an environment where other inmates can easily create a false image of the situation, and even the administrative staff is under enough obvious stress that trust is limited and personal grudges and abuse are expected. On the other end, every minor infraction doesn't need to become a Federal case; if you steal a fork from the commissary, that warrants disciplinary action, but not necessarily a new extension on your sentence.

    This is hijinks. It's extreme hijinks, but it's still just hijinks. The inmate targeted for identity theft has a case against these people; as for their illegal use of the prison network and the entire chain of events involved, that's more of an administrative manner. This is an environment where people steal stuff, break stuff, and get places they don't belong; even beyond that expectation, this was junk hardware with little to no value to anyone, and thus the damages done by its theft are below standing. Such a scale of high-mischief warrants an extremely-long and uncomfortable talking to, and some unfriendly disciplinary measures; it's more amusing than criminal, though, and doesn't warrant an extreme response.

    tl;dr: Nobody got stabbed or raped, and there wasn't a riot or break-out; somebody will get yelled at a whole hell of a lot and have their free-time privileges suspended, and that's just fine.

  20. Re:Huh? by ledow · · Score: 3, Informative

    Like HELL!

    Why can you plug into the network at all? (RADIUS, etc.)
    Why can you plug in unauthorised devices? (NPS, device management etc.)
    Why can you use devices without up-to-date antivirus/firewall etc. (NPS again)
    Why do new things plugged in get access to everything and not just a limited VLAN?
    Why are you able to then get access to something just by a stolen username/password from an authorised device? (Access controls, I mean come on! At least insist that it's a domain-joined device!)
    Why did they not notice until ACCESS WAS ALREADY BEING USED ON THE NETWORK?

    It's pathetic.

    I work in a primary school (up to age 11) and you wouldn't be able to do that to our systems without alarm bells going off.

    In a "secure" environment like a prison, and especially on secure services that can create access cards and open door, the IT department were doing NOTHING LIKE their job.

    Literally, a managed switch and a device management software / Windows server set up properly would have stopped 99% of what they did in its tracks and all they'd have was a stolen username/password they could use only at an authorised machine anyway.

    You basically handed the prisoners the network on a plate, for virus infection, malware installation, Internet access, system compromise, packet-sniffing, etc.

    And you're saying well done because they noticed a whole bunch of suspicious entries in a log after a LONG time of the computer being in a position to do all kinds of damage?