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New Processors Are Now Blocked From Receiving Updates On Old Windows (arstechnica.com)
halfEvilTech writes: Last year, Microsoft announced they were planning on blocking OS updates on newer Intel CPU's, namely the 7th Generation Kaby Lake processors. Ars Technica reports: "Now, the answer appears to be 'this month.' Users of new processors running old versions of Windows are reporting that their updates are being blocked. The block means that systems using these processors are no longer receiving security updates." While Windows 7 has already ended mainstream support, the same can't be said for Windows 8.1 which is still on mainstream support until January of next year.
Keep it up...and you'll push more and more people to either keep their current PC's, or switch to alternative processors and computers. MS wants ALL PC's running windows 10...once they figure they can't push any further, they will start their subscription service.
Monopoly something something. Predatory blahblahblah. I'm fed up! If Microsoft is going to lock me down, I'll go to Apple where I say thank you for 10X the abuse. Even better, I'm going to install Linux now and never look back! I put it on my grandmother's PC and she didn't even know the difference!
Time to get a hypervisor running with Win 7 and OSX. Buy an AMD card for graphics passthrough and have the best of both worlds.
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I see even a month is too long for our memories now.
While I have been planning to get a Ryzen 1800X, those plans are now shelved. My FX8350 is good enough. There is no way in hell I am installing Microsofts spyware (Win10) until it has either become clear how to reliably and permanently block all "telemetry" or the EU has finally managed to enforce European privacy laws against them, which, among other things, means that _all_ data collection is subject to approval and must be "off" by default.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
To pc's what they did to older windows phones?? Colour me surprised! Upgrade/ use the hardware we recommend or lose support is the new MA mantra, keep going MS, I had to toss my windows phone because of your lack of support, I've been on Mint for years, the only reason you are still relevant is your entrenched business portfolio, and even that is slipping away.
So for example, does this just block the PC from reaching the Updates service, or is it baked into the KB itself?
It seems like in a managed environment where one might have a WSUS server running, this could be bypassed if it's not the KB itself. Many organizations, for many reasons (good and bad) use older versions of Windows, and this could be a serious issue.
Background fact: All modern NICs (Network Interface Controller) used on Ethernet interfaces have an EEPROM on them. This is what allows the NIC to be mass produced but still each one can have its own unique MAC address.There is left over space is all NIC EEPROMS that I have seen, and manufacturers have used that space to let the NIC owner control configuration options.
I haven't installed any Windows update since I bought an XP laptop with SP1 and Windows kept wanting to install an "important security update". After a month of using XP and a live Linux CD (Knoppix) with no significant problems, I finally accepted the "security update". Windows still worked as well as Windows can be expected to work, but my live Linux CD could no longer connect to the Internet! I eventually tracked the problem to the EEPROM on my notebook's NIC being changed to an unusable startup configuration. Windows knew to not use the configuration in EEPROM and just configured the NIC itself, Linux didn't know that the EEPROM had been screwed with and kept trying to use the configuration stored in EEPROM. I did fin cumbersome manual ways to work past it eventually, but it is an experience that I don't want to have again.
Being that the only people who have ever done harm like this to my computer is the Microsoft corporation, I no longer accept security updates from the only company that I need the protection from.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Microsoft users are just being disruptive and belligerent. Microsoft has the right to kick them off their computers any time they want, and to send in the jack booted thugs if the user will not go quietly.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
We had to start running Linux because of compatibility problems with DOS programs. It's sad when Linux is better than Microsoft at their own programs.
"broken and/or generally sucked" isn't nearly specific enough for me to know what you didn't like and what you might like instead. I also have no indication of your use case. Are you primarily doing network and security testing (consider Kali), gaming, music and multimedia production? What I can do is point out three general concepts or guidelines.
Different distributions have a very different balance between cutting edge new features and reliability. For example, nothing goes into Red Hat / CentOS until it has first been proven reliable on Fedora for a couple of years. Fedora has brand new stuff, which may not be as polished and reliable; CentOS has time-tested stuff that works. Fedora has frequent upgrades and doesn't maintain support for old versions. Red Hat / CentOS isn't meant to be upgraded as often, they support old versions much longer. Figure out what you want on that spectrum. That relates to the next guideline.
You said you use Linux servers "all the time". Probably those servers are using a stable distro such as CentOS. If you are very familiar with one distro because it's on all your servers, consider using the distro you already know on your desktop too. Even if you take a couple hours getting all your specific hardware configured just how you like it, avoiding the learning curve of a new distro may be worth it.
Someone who produces music for a living will probably prefer a very different distro or spin than someone who does network penetration testing. Consider looking at spins or distros designed for your specific use-case. Even if your use case isn't that specific, some distros are designed for newbies coming from Windows, and make easy things easy by presenting limited options. Others are designed for more advanced users who want to tinker and set their multiple mouse wheels to trigger different actions depending on context. Android and Chrome OS vs Debian are extreme examples. ChromeOS is super easy and everything just works, correctly. Of course "everything" is basically "the browser". Debian can run my custom-designed PCI-E card much easier than Chrome OS can. Figure out your use case, then research or ask in an appropriate forum.
The corollary to the above is that any answers to "what's the best Linux distribution" are probably wrong, for your needs. Cent OS meets MY needs quite well, but my needs may be totally different from your needs. I don't give a damn about nifty eye candy like translucent windows and window animations. I turn that shit off anyway for better performance and memory usage. Maybe you are an artsy, visual type of person and you love window animations.
It's ok - I have access to your machine and will fix all your security problems for you.
I take it back. I bought the latest Macbook and am now an insufferable tool to everyone I meet.
I've been using WSUS Offline Update to build update ISOs and never touching the Windows Update site directly for years now. Just recently a Windows Update (or some other mechanism) made my Windows screen display 'This copy of Windows is not genuine'. Since it happened in the last several months, it's time to reinstall and use the Windows 7 update ISO that I created a few months ago. I'm glad I date and keep the ISO images.
I don't know which recent update from Microsoft tagged my copy of Windows 7 as 'non-genuine' but if I stop doing updates and freeze things at a recent point where they snuck in whatever WGA crap they've done, I am probably okay.
Does anybody know when they crept in the new WGA malware update? It was apparently something in the last three or four months.
I create WSUS isos to do all my updates of Windows 7, and some form of WGA malware crept in recently and now 'This copy of Windows is not genuine.'
It hasn't crept into any of my Windows 7 VMs. In fact, I should probably experiment with the large collect of datestamped WSUS isos on some VMs and try to identify when and where Microsoft snuck in the shiv.
Ubuntu: The leading operating system for PCs, tablets, phones, IoT ...
Switched 18 months ago, "just to try". Now I'm still here, and could be happier. Of course, if you are a hard-core gamer...
New Processors Are Now Blocked From Receiving Updates On Old Windows
Shouldn't that be:
Old Windows is now blocked from receiving updates [when running] on new processors
?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
*puts on flameproof suit*
And that crazy flow-chart of decisions that need to be worked through before it's even worth investing time into a given distro enough to learn it well enough that you know why it's not actually going to work for you after all and you need to start the whole asinine process over again... It's precisely why Linux of any flavor makes for a horribly sad excuse of a desktop.
The real flow chart is much simplier than you're describing: If what you want to do is dick around with your OS all day, then by all means run Linux as your desktop. If you're anyone else whatsoever (you know, someone who's actually productive or even just wants to play video games and watch p0rn), then don't run Linux. Windows or Mac, even Android, but not Linux.
Hell, for 99% of "Linux users" I kid you not, Windows + Cygwin makes a massively more functional "Linux Workstation" than any Linux distro on earth: All the "it just works" hardware drivers, games, software, etc with nearly all the power of a real Unix shell environment as well as very solid cross-talk between the two (unlike Window's new Ubuntu subsystem, such crap...). Ok, ok so I'm exaggerating a bit: It's no where near 1% of Linux desktop users that wouldn't be far, far better off running Windows + Cygwin because only a tiny fraction of 1% are doing any deep systems level programming on the Linux kernel that might justify having an actual Linux workstation.
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By broken I that the mouse wheel works reasonably in some apps but in others (like Chrome) it's ridiculously slow and there is no preference panel to change it. I tried a few hacks I found on Stack Exchange but none worked, and installing Smooth Scrolling in Chrome just made the wheel randomly not work at all.
I don't know what unity is supposed to be... In fairness, I think i picked a bad one there. Ubuntu isn't representative of the Linux desktop in general.
Task wise it's mainly workstation stuff. Lots of OS apps like Inkscape, Eclipse, Kicad. I need WINE for a few things. And a good GUI git client, or maybe I should try a CLI wrapper but need to know it's stable.
Server side it's a mix of Debian/Raspbian, DD-WRT and FreeBSD.
Anyone have SED working reliably with those recent Intel fixes?
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Even worse, they're doing this on operating systems that are still in official mainstream support. Contract breach, anyone?
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
*puts on flameproof suit*
And that crazy flow-chart of decisions that need to be worked through before it's even worth investing time into a given distro enough to learn it well enough that you know why it's not actually going to work for you after all and you need to start the whole asinine process over again...
No flame unless you tell me of the crazy flow chart of decisions that you have to make.
when I install say Mint, I plug in the thumb drive or use a liveCD for an older computer, Boot, and click on install, or a couple more clicks if I'm doing dual boot. If there is a question regarding the particular computer I let the thing boot to desktop off the thumb drive. Then I sit back and let it roll until it gets to setup.
When was the last time you installed Linux, and what version was it? Your description does not jibe with my experience in the last 7+ years.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
By broken I that the mouse wheel works reasonably in some apps but in others (like Chrome) it's ridiculously slow and there is no preference panel to change it. I tried a few hacks I found on Stack Exchange but none worked, and installing Smooth Scrolling in Chrome just made the wheel randomly not work at all.
Sumpin's off, because the mouse scrolling is such an ancient thing it's hard to imagine any distro having an issue. I'm noe certain that it isn't a Chrome application issue rather than Linux.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I feel like something like this would have gotten huge exposure, but my google-fu is failing me. Got a citation for that?
As you may know from your research, there are several causes that can result in poor scrolling in Chrome, on every operating system. Did you test in Incognito mode?
Being that the only people who have ever done harm like this to my computer is the Microsoft corporation, I no longer accept security updates from the only company that I need the protection from.
Preach it Brother! I've spent actual months over the years fixing computers screwed up by Microsoft, and precious little time repairing screwups by anyone else.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Choice is good, so more choice must always be better, right? Nope, that's a fallacy. Instead, too much choice becomes a confusopoly and that isn't good. And accidentally creating a confusopoly without even having a profit motive, but instead just out of sheer "not invented here" syndrome, is even worse!
Don't get me wrong: having too much choice is still way better than having too little. But we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that making every new Linux user choose between dozens or hundreds of distros can't have negative practical consequences just because choice is theoretically good.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Which Mint? Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce, KDE, LDME Cinnamon, or LDME MATE?
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Yes, choice is a horrible thing to have. That's why there is only one model of computer available and why all non-black coloured automobiles that aren't Fords failed to sell.
I drive a black Ford Ranger, you fool.
Which Mint? Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce, KDE, LDME Cinnamon, or LDME MATE?
I've done Cinnamon, Mate Xfce and KDE. I'm most familiar with Cinnamon.
The major difference is some of the windows and other minutiae. The core is Minty fresh. Cinnamon Mint for the wife on her touch screen laptop. She won't let me experiment on that computer.
Lately I've been installing and using Ubuntu Mate for myself, mainly because I can use it across a wide range of my computers, and it works pretty well and fast too.
I have an HP Envy I want to install dual boot when I get the time. It's both touch screen and tablet operation, so that will be a good experiment.
I've been trying without much success to get others to collaborate with me on why they have issues but I don't. Without luck.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I think you might have missed my point.
Zenin was complaining about the "crazy flow-chart of decisions" you have to go through when deciding to use Linux. You replied, essentially, "just use Mint." But my point is that even that relatively-simple advice implies deciding between six different options before you even get to run the installer!
(Note that I'm not even counting the decisions that are "easy" because they're not opinion-based, such as deciding between 32- or 64-bit and whether to use the .torrent or pick one of the 99 (I counted) mirrors. And that's for an "easy" distro -- heaven help you if you're a n00b who got told "just use Debian" instead! "'s390x-netinst?' WTF is this shit?")
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I haven't installed any Windows update since I bought an XP laptop with SP1 and Windows kept wanting to install an "important security update".
It was a very well known fact way back in 2000 that the best policy was to disable the windows update service as the first thing you did after logging in. Then you changed your password.
Now, as regards to NICs - all NICs are programmable as far as their MACs go. It was a requirement, you see, back from the days of DEC at least when software licenses were tied to MACs, and NICs used to go bad relatively frequently.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
I ditched MS back in 93 after having "SmartDrive" overwrite my EISA CMOS config. I had a relatively brief period of MS usage between 96 and 99 where my job involved MS software and a learned exactly how screwed up and bad MS software truly is, to a degree I cannot fully reveal here. Needless to say, I've run other software ever since.
The cesspool just got a check and balance.
I think you might have missed my point.
Zenin was complaining about the "crazy flow-chart of decisions" you have to go through when deciding to use Linux. You replied, essentially, "just use Mint." But my point is that even that relatively-simple advice implies deciding between six different options before you even get to run the installer!
(Note that I'm not even counting the decisions that are "easy" because they're not opinion-based, such as deciding between 32- or 64-bit and whether to use the .torrent or pick one of the 99 (I counted) mirrors. And that's for an "easy" distro -- heaven help you if you're a n00b who got told "just use Debian" instead! "'s390x-netinst?' WTF is this shit?")
I know exactly what you meant. However, considering the different sub-versions of Mint as somehow a bridge too far to decide upon is the sort of concept that makes a two mouse click an unsufferable crime upon humanity. Mint Cinnamon will work essentially the same as any of the others. And if you look closely many of the distros are designed for certain purposes. like video, or sound.If that's too much trouble you can install the same software later.
It's odd that by this time, people don't understand that people using linux often fork or just make minor changes. My experience has shown me that the biggest reason to use one version over another is the horsepower of th ecomputer it is installed on.
And if you are too inconvenienced to take a little time to figure that out, if you cannot be bothered to find out that there are versions of Linux that will run on your old computer, then my post was too long for you to read. And it's not Linux's fault, it is just laziness. there is not one of your Linux Show stoppers that you won't find on Windows. Basic, Home Home Premium, Pro? Enterprise? What a gauntlet!
I wonder, do you only use all defaults on your Windows machine? Is troubleshooting a problem on Windows out of the question? You buy a new computer when the machine won't boot after an update?
I support Windows, MacOS and now Linux.
The OS that requires the most upkeep and investigation for fixing OS problems is Windows by far.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Maybe so, but there are plenty of people -- like my baby-boomer parents -- who can barely even handle one button! Should we doom them to Windows spyware and exploitation just because they don't meet your condescending, elitist expectation of tech-savviness?
More to the point, even technical users shouldn't have to deal with every tiny detail, all the time. I'm a goddamn professional software engineer and even I don't want to deal with it! I got most of that shit out of my system running Gentoo in college.
Fundamentally, it's an issue of human interface design and cognitive load. A good user interface helps the user focus on things that he cares about and not waste effort on the things he doesn't. In the vast majority of cases, forcing the user to make a decision without suggesting a default choice means the designer was failing to do his damn job. Take the Linux Mint download page, for instance: would it have killed them to just pick one of the editions -- it doesn't even matter which, despite the desktop environment Holy Wars -- and put it in a larger font or add an arrow or something to denote "if you don't know what the difference is between these, pick this one?" Just one little note on the page would make all the difference.
This article explains the issue better.
Mostly yes, actually. You know why? Because -- aside from laziness -- having a consistent experience, where I can walk up to any other random Windows machine (at least of the same version) and know that it will work the same as my usual one instead of getting pissed off that my custom keyboard shortcuts don't work, is more important than wringing out that last 0.5% of optimization. Here's a quote from Joel Spolsky (also referenced in the link above) about it:
(I do change the important settings, of course, such as disabling Microsoft's attempts to shanghai the system with forced "upgrades" and telemetry.)
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I've used many different mice with many different laptops running many different flavors of Linux, and never had an issue with a scroll wheel. Troll above? It does happen. Otherwise, majorly misguided at best.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
This: http://www.softpedia.com/get/T...
Should take care of that annoyance for you.
Now that they are doing "roll-up" style updates, who TF knows which update was "poisoned".
-- You are in a maze of little, twisty passages, all different... --
Actually I would say this XKCD fits Linux better as I'd say that is 90% of the distros out there, just reinventing the wheel and making just enough changes to make them incompatible with each other and break shit.
The really sad part? If you could get all those devs to quit wasting their energy making yet another minor variation of the same OS and instead were to pour all their energy into one distro? You'd have an OS that would curbstomp anything out there in just a couple of years...but it will never happen, instead they will just keep cranking out distros until all the OEMs quietly adopt secureboot and all that is left to run Linux on is high priced workstations and cheapo ARM maker boards.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
needs to stop. Windows needs to be open source and different builds of it open. This i can see happening in the future.
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and precious little time repairing screwups by anyone else.
Inherent bias in your sample. Apple doesn't give people any latitude to screw something up, and Linux users in general are quite technically adept and solve their own issues.
Swap the world from Windows to Linux and all you'll do is change the description of your repair service.
Well said. At this stage it's still easier for me to use Windows, even V10, and spend half an hour sabotaging all the tracking and forced updates. There are handy apps and guides on how to do it.
In comparison I spent an hour or more just trying to get the mouse wheel to work on Mint Cinnamon, and then realised it was impossible. Maybe I could start over and try another distro.
I'm starting to think that few people do anything really serious with the Linux desktop. The shell is amazing, as a server it's amazing, but the desktop... There are 50 different ones, and five different APIs for the mouse wheel, and none of them work very well.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Maybe. On Windows it does whatever the mouse wheel is set to do in Windows. On Linux it seems that every app has to decide for itself and most don't have any way to configure it.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
There is a little utility called imwheel which will let you set the default mouse scroll speed globally, and also adjust it for different applications. That's likely to be what you would be most happy with since you mentioned you were happy with the speed in some applications and not others.
imwheel actually works by mapping the scroll wheel to an adjustable number of presses of the down arrow key. That introduces a few minor quirks. A more direct method is to set the scroll distance in xorg.conf with a line like this:
Option "VertScrollDelta" "100"
Of course that's for distributions which still use X, such as Red Hat.
For Wayland, you'll use something like:
$ xinput list
Find the device number of your mouse. Let's assume it's number 9. Then run:
xinput set-prop 9 'Evdev Scrolling Distance' 3 1 1
You can put the above command in your .profile file so it is run every time you log in.
Sounds like your driver manufacturer put out a bad update. Blame them. And Linux.
Yes, you'll see a few people arguing for MS doing this by saying "Windows 7 is out of *ahem* mainstream support! You shouldn't expect it to work with new processors!" Even if leave aside that extended support certainly has never behaved that way in the past (XP will happily download and install updates on my FM2 machine) they remain silent about Windows 8.1 also disabling the updates that is STILL IN mainstream support.
Microsoft support guidelines simply do not mean anything. They can change at any time in any way you can imagine.
I tried imwheel, it had no effect. Don't know if it was Chrome or Cinnamon ignoring it.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I'd mod you up if I had the points today. I've been thinking the same thing for the last few years about all the wasted time and effort on duplication that doesn't really make much difference. Sometimes there is too much choice.
To take 1 example, could you imagine the awesome GUI we'd have if the KDE and Gnome folks dropped their fight and instead made 1 desktop environment? I think that would bring the vast majority of users together.
Apple gives plenty of latitude to screw up OS X, but you usually have to go out of your way to do it. Windows gets screwed up through normal operation.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
Windows gets screwed up through normal operation.
If that's your diagnosis then you shouldn't be in IT support.
Searched for "Linux Stupid" distro. Instructions not clear enough. Got my dick caught in the ceiling fan.
#DeleteFacebook
I recently thought about the configuration thing and how little I customize my boxes anymore. I used to run all the interface tweaks, hacked themes, bunches of customization addons for shortcuts and macros, etc etc. Now about all I do is stick my taskbar on the left (on widescreens), switch it to show labels, and maybe turn the colors to a dark theme. I just don't have the patience or motivation to mess with the level of customization I used to.
I do still play with Gentoo on several boxes, including a couple laptops, but it's definitely gotten to be more and more hassle.
and precious little time repairing screwups by anyone else.
Inherent bias in your sample. Apple doesn't give people any latitude to screw something up, and Linux users in general are quite technically adept and solve their own issues.
Swap the world from Windows to Linux and all you'll do is change the description of your repair service.
You do know that a lot of MacOS users are just as adroit in Linux. That's because for all intents and purposes, MacOS is just the fanciest version of Linux. And yes, for the pedants in hereMacOS is true Unix, and Linux is Unix-y.
the difference today is that while Windows is busy locking itself down, the meme of the hipster Mac user is not quite true. I use terminal in MacOS almost as much in Linux. But most of my folks who use Linux don't even know what Terminal is. And they giggle if I mention bash. They just use their Linux.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I've used many different mice with many different laptops running many different flavors of Linux, and never had an issue with a scroll wheel. Troll above? It does happen. Otherwise, majorly misguided at best.
Animojo doesn't troll as far as I know.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
I like your CentOS and Fedora comment and have been using for years. But I have decided to move to debian because Fedora updates too fast. CentOS update too slow and its default kernel does not include the drivers I need for my htpc. It is not too much effort to compile your own kernel but the task gets old real quick when you have to keep up with security patches.
You do know that a lot of MacOS users are just as adroit in Linux.
You are looking at the wrong superset. Most MacOS users don't give a crap about Linux, don't know what the command line is and don't know the systems are similar under the hood. Those that do, fall into the Linux users / experts who know how not to fuckup their system category.
But most of my folks who use Linux don't even know what Terminal is.
Nope not at all, Unless you count phones in which case you're behind dishonest with my point. While you're making these "most Linux users" giggle with jokes about bash, pick me up a unicorn, I hear they are tasty.
You do know that a lot of MacOS users are just as adroit in Linux.
You are looking at the wrong superset. Most MacOS users don't give a crap about Linux, don't know what the command line is and don't know the systems are similar under the hood. Those that do, fall into the Linux users / experts who know how not to fuckup their system category.
Wow, you accuse me of being dishonest, then you throw in that meme. a lot !=most, and if we're going to use your flexymetric, most Windows users don't give a crap about computing in general. If that flexymetric meme comforts you somehow, if it fits into your worldview, by all means, enjoy your opinion. At least you know most Mac users. I don't, which is why I didn't generalize. A lot of us are out here doing professional work, using terminal every day. Bashing about makes my video work a lot easier, and sometimes even makes it possible. Others do what I do, and they are using MacOS. That is a true statement.
A whole lot of people on Windows, MacOS - and yes Virginia - Linux, are not experts or even power users. That it bothers you that there are computing adroits on MacOS is a bit amusing.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
then you throw in that meme.
More often than not memes are based on observing society.
most Windows users don't give a crap about computing in general
Define computing. If you're talking about tinkering or playing with the OS, I fully agree. Most windows users don't know of a cmd line or registry either.
A lot of us are out here doing professional work, using terminal every day.
So agreeing with me? Good. We got that sorted. The large portion of Linux systems are maintained by people who use it for a reason and in general know what they are doing.
Others do what I do, and they are using MacOS. That is a true statement.
Indeed, but in general most people on a Mac don't do what you do. Most people on a Mac see it either as a creative platform or an alternative platform for the general purpose PC, which leads me to the original point: The general design philosophy of the Mac is to be as simple as damn possible. If a standard user ends up at a terminal prompt something is very wrong. What is presented to the user doesn't give them much latitude for wreaking the system.
I stand behind my world view as it's based on the world that I see quite widely. Just like I stand behind the fact that most Slashdotters have no idea just how basic the vast majority of computer users actually are, and don't realise that no everyone's grandma isn't running Linux.