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AMD Launches Higher Performance Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 Polaris Graphics Cards (hothardware.com)
Reader MojoKid writes: In preparation for the impending launch of AMD's next-generation Vega GPU architecture, which will eventually reside at the top of the company's graphics product stack, the company unveiled a refresh of its mainstream graphics card line-up with more-powerful Polaris-based GPUs. The new AMD Radeon RX 580 and RX 570 are built around AMD's Polaris 20 GPU, which is an updated revision of Polaris 10. The Radeon RX 580 features 36 Compute Units, with a total of 2,304 shader processors and boost / base GPU clocks of 1340MHz and 1257MHz, respectively, along with 8GB of GDDR5 over a 256-bit interface. The Radeon RX 580 offers up a total of 6.17 TFLOPs of compute performance with up to 256GB/s of peak memory bandwidth. Though based on the same chip, the Radeon RX 570 has only 32 active CUs and 2048 shader processors. Boost and base reference clocks are 1244MHz and 1168MHz, respectively with 4GB of GDDR5 memory also connected over a 256-bit interface. At reference clocks, the peak compute performance of the Radeon RX 570 is 5.1TFLOPs with 224GB/s of memory bandwidth. In the benchmarks, the AMD Radeon RX 580 clearly outpaced AMD's previous gen Radeon RX 480, and was faster than an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Founder's Edition card more often than not. It was more evenly matched with factory-overclocked OEM GeForce GTX 1060 cards, however. Expected retail price points are around $245 and $175 for 8GB Radeon RX 580 and 4GB RX 570s cards, though more affordable options will also be available.
I can't in good conscience support a major brand-power that spends so much money crippling games and gouging customers as often as possible. Fuck Nvidia.
...for the consumer. Pumping 60fps+ @1080p, graphics ticket to the max on a 175$ card, even in a 2013-era CPU is gonna make 'em consoles up their game next gen... Or at least lower their prices.
Youtube.. so many tech tubers have benchmarked this.
Youtube.. so many tech tubers have benchmarked this.
For AMD vs. Intel. I've yet to see one for AMD vs. AMD.
40% faster.
Really?
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/c...
And the date on that is... today! The Ryzen 1700 has better performance but the FX-8300 still has a better price/performance ratio.
How is that ratio modified by the electrical costs of running an 8 core FX chip? They consume like twice the power that zen does for like half the performance.
Cyrix CPU's.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
They consume like twice the power that zen does for like half the performance.
Only if all eight cores are maxed out. I got a 25W quad-core AM1 system that draws 27W when its not doing anything and 35W when the cores are maxed out..
How is that ratio modified by the electrical costs of running an 8 core FX chip? They consume like twice the power that zen does for like half the performance.
The Ryzen 1700 is a 65W chip, the FX-8300 is a 95W chip. Assuming you are running the machine at 100% load 24/7, and these ratings are accurate, the FX-8300 will cost you $1.75 extra per month at $0.08/kW-hr. If you want to consider the added AC load, you can round up to $2.50 per month. Given the price difference between the chips (currently ~$310+ vs ~$120), it would take more than 6 years to get to the electricity cost breakeven point.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
(Re: FX-8300)
> I updated my components last year because Ryzen didn't come out soon enough
(Re: Hillary)
> Hillary started off 268 electoral votes
(Re: Trump)
> Trump had to perform better than McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 to have a chance at winning. Like everything else in this election, he blew that off too and will lose in a landslide.
Good grief your 2016 was a trainwreck of terrible calls. Here's to 2017, hopefully you can at least swing a good processor later in the year- I have less faith in your political prescience improving any.
(Re: FX-8300)
> I updated my components last year because Ryzen didn't come out soon enough
My Vista-compatible motherboard was nine-years-old. Ryzen was originally slated for Q3/Q4 2016. When I updated the motherboard and memory, I got the FX-8300 to replace the seven-year-old quad core processor.
(Re: Hillary)
> Hillary started off 268 electoral votes
Based on available polling data.
(Re: Trump)
> Trump had to perform better than McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012 to have a chance at winning. Like everything else in this election, he blew that off too and will lose in a landslide.
Based on available polling data, Hillary had a 95% chance and Trump had 5%. Now obviously something was wrong with the polling data. Hillary won the popular vote, Trump won the electoral college.
Good grief your 2016 was a trainwreck of terrible calls. Here's to 2017, hopefully you can at least swing a good processor later in the year- I have less faith in your political prescience improving any.
I based my decisions on available data, as all good decisions should be based on. If I was perfect, I would be Jewish. If I was God, you would be in trouble.
That's also a glorified netbook chip that has jack-all real performance. Compare it to the newest 35w i3
At that rate i'd rather have the vastly higher performance over 6 years.
That's also a glorified netbook chip that has jack-all real performance. Compare it to the newest 35w i3
I built the AM1 system when the processor and motherboard were $25 each. The ECS KAM1-I motherboard had two built-in serial ports and a header for two additional serial ports. This is nice little system for running Red Hat Linux and connecting to four console ports on my Cisco certification rack.
It really depends on what your priorities are. My current system is an FX-8350, and the new stuff does look like a really nice upgrade. It's definitely faster, and definitely more power efficient. But I do need to factor the cost of a new mainboard, CPU, RAM against keeping what I have. I'll pay more for the ongoing running cost in electricity usage for sure, but that usage is dwarfed by the replacement cost of all that hardware--it will take many years to break even. So I'll probably hold off for a year or so, and the cost of all the parts will be even cheaper by that point. I'd be in more of a rush to upgrade if what I had was noticeably bad, but the 8350 is a fine processor for everything I do, from gaming to compiling and running multi-threaded analysis code. While the new stuff would be nice for all these things, it's not sufficiently compelling to replace the hardware today.
Nothing wrong with the FX series, as long as you remember programs compiled with the Intel Cripple Compiler will be slower (but that is true of Ryzen as well) but if you look at benches made with GCC instead of ICC you see exactly what you would expect, the FX-8 sits between an i5 and an i7 depending on how multi-threaded the program is. I personally see absolutely no reason to upgrade from my FX-8320e as I'm getting better than 60fps on all my games (most better than 90fps) and even on heavy workloads like multitrack audio DSP processing it frankly works faster than I can.
As for Hillary? Anybody who could read the numbers knew she would lose a good year before the election. When she announced her candidacy her approval rating? 15%. After nearly a year and a half of the DNC rigging primaries for her, the MSM practically falling over themselves to kiss her ass and even running stories by her for approval? Her approval rating was...14%. Nobody in history has EVER won the POTUS with numbers that low so no shit she lost, she was about the worst possible candidate the DNC could possibly run, a rich influence peddling Wall Street insider that Wikileaks showed was getting her ass kissed by the MSM and cashing big fat checks from nasty dictators like the Saudi princes and if that wasn't enough? Her team pushing a narrative that she deserved it because she had a vag instead of anything she had actually done and that it was owed to her ("Its her turn" which they hung up on giant signs at all her rallies) just made her look even more arrogant and condescending.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Anybody who could read the numbers knew she would lose a good year before the election. When she announced her candidacy her approval rating? 15%.
Her approval rating was...14%
I've never seen polls with those numbers. Got a link?
I have an FX-8320e and on stock clocks when I'm just web surfing and watching vids? It pulls between 14w-39w according to the built on power monitoring on my Asus board, that is with 4 cores parked BTW, and when playing games? I average between 59w-75w which again depends on whether Windows has any cores parked which with most games rarely using more than 4 threads? I usually have at least 2 if not 4 parked, in fact the only time I see all 8 cores running is when I'm doing video transcodes and multitrack audio DSP renders.
So yeah running an FX-8? Really not expensive and I have numbers to back it up which as you can see it would take over a decade to make up the difference in cost between an AMD FX and an Intel, the same numbers would hold true for Ryzen.
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So are you lying now or on the post where you said you worked at Microsoft for 3 or 6 months whatever it was.
So are you lying now or on the post where you said you worked at Microsoft for 3 or 6 months whatever it was.
Nope. Never worked for Microsoft. Five recruiters led me around the nose for Microsoft positions in 2005. I interviewed on the Silicon Valley Microsoft Campus for a technology spinoff in 2014.
Feel free to post the URL to where I said I worked for Microsoft.
because I just don't have the time to deal with the crashes. I keep hearing bad things about AMD's stability, especially on very new and very old games. If you're just playing the big titles (Overwatch, DOTA, WOW, Call of Duty) it's not so bad. But even GTAV was pretty buggered up at launch.
/1080p.
I can't complain too much about gouging either. I got a Gigabyte 6gb 1060 for $215 shipped using deals from Jet.com. Those aren't even that common. That's not bad for a card that runs everything at 60+ FPS
That said I miss my 1650x's super nice image quality. And I don't like nVidia's habbit of sabotaging competitors ( tessellation anyone?)
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So are you lying now or on the post where you said you worked at Microsoft for 3 or 6 months whatever it was.
I believe you were referring to this post when I was at Fujitsu for six months.
When I worked at Fujitsu in 1997, our virtual world division got a temporary vice president from Japan for three monhts. This VP was in charged of mainframes. He always asked the same question in broken English, "Are you a mainframe programmer?" He was disappointed that no one in our division was a mainframe programmer. For years since then I've always heard that mainframe programmers were in high demand. The catch, of course, is having previously worked on mainframes. Seems like no one wants to hire an inexperienced person as a mainframe programmer.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10471307&cid=54207521
look it up you lazy chunk of shit
I can't give you an exact link as I don't have time to go through the video archive but I CAN give you the place to search...H.A. Goodman's YouTube channel which is where I originally saw the numbers. He is pretty good about backing up his vids with links to the exact figures and he covered the election from the very first primaries all the way through to the end so if you need a source for 2016 election figures? He's your man.
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Because why? Because popular opinion has guaranteed monotonic convergence? At a guaranteed quadratic convergence rate?
Just what part of "moving target" is so hard for people to understand?
Candidate A shits her pants at the front of the boat. Everybody rushes to the back of the boat.
Candidate B begins barfing up a taco bowl. Everybody rushes back to the front of the boat.
Blather. Foam. Repeat.
The only reason Trump won is because on the day of the election, there were more disgusted voters headed to the back of the boat than the front of the boat.
Polls, especially rolling meta polls, have an intrinsic lag of two to four days. I clearly saw on the 538 graphics momentum building toward the rear bulkhead as we rounded into election day. After I extrapolated the trend a few days forward to compensate for polling lag, I was not surprised by the final outcome.
There was more than enough disgust in both directions to support either outcome. Another Billy Bush tape in the final week could easily have turned the tide. This was not a normal election where the polls were tracking a slow convergence of the undecideds. The polls were tracking a mad (and futile) scramble for the voters to distance themselves from whichever paragon of disgust was recently the most salient.
Moving target. The polls were no less instantaneously accurate than they've ever been. They just don't work very well when neither candidate has a redeeming feature, and the electorate goes into orbit around a positive pole in the complex plain.
How is this even remotely difficult to comprehend?
From where I sit, it's all bog-standard Electoral Engineering for Dummies, 101.
I honestly cant remember exact details, the name will explain that. But i do recall on several occasions you speaking about working at microsoft(maybe im wrong and you said you had just applied, but pretty sure im not wrong) along with several short stints at companies. I have only worked for 4 companies in my 16 years as an electrician. only one for 3 months, so when i hear stories like yours it makes me think youre not any good at what you do. Because those of us who are good at what we do stay at companies long term. Maybe tech is different and if so glad i didnt go into it. way more fun as a hobby.
Because those of us who are good at what we do stay at companies long term.
As an IT support contractor, I take whatever work comes my way. Sometimes the assignment is for four hours on short notice, days, weeks, months or years. I'm currently half-way through a five-year contract. My LinkedIn profile has connections to 800+ recruiters from a 20+ year career. Tech workers who stay at one company often make less money than those who moved around. It's easy to say that I'm no good. But I do the jobs that other people won't do, especially if they need a miracle worker.
No, you based decisions on the data that fit your filter.
My filter is... I'm not a purist. If an alternative solution presents itself because my preferred solution wasn't available at the time, I would go with that and evaluate alternatives later.
Don't you work for peanuts? Something ridiculously low for where and what you do?
I make $50K+ per year in Silicon Valley. That makes me the highest wage earner in my blue collar familiy. For the people who drop $3K per night on wine, I make peanuts.
It costs far less to buy a 16 core Xeon system from eBay with 32-64GB of RAM then to buy a Ryzen or Core i7. If you're concerned about performance per buck, eBay a real system. And... oh, the bars I got on consumer benchmark software was double or triple when I was using my 20 core Xeon server as a gaming PC for a few days.
On the other hand, I find that a good notebook does everything I need most of the time. Who really cares about the high end of consumer processors? They cost too much and the motherboards are made like shit.
Wow, i dont make much less than you, and im just an Electrician/Low Voltage tech.. i will probably catch and surpass your pay in the next 2 years or so.. Glad i decided not to go into tech.