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User-Made Patch Lets Owners of Next-Gen CPUs Install Updates On Windows 7 & 8.1 (bleepingcomputer.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from BleepingComputer: GitHub user Zeffy has created a patch that removes a limitation that Microsoft imposed on users of 7th generation processors, a limit that prevents users from receiving Windows updates if they still use Windows 7 and 8.1. This limitation was delivered through Windows Update KB4012218 (March 2017 Patch Tuesday) and has made many owners of Intel Kaby Lake and AMD Bristol Ridge CPUs very angry last week, as they weren't able to install any Windows updates. Microsoft's move was controversial, but the company did its due diligence, and warned customers of its intention since January 2016, giving users enough time to update to Windows 10, move to a new OS, or downgrade their CPU, if they needed to remain on Windows 7 or 8.1 for various reasons. When the April 2017 Patch Tuesday came around last week, GitHub user Zeffy finally had the chance to test four batch scripts he created in March, after the release of KB4012218. His scripts worked as intended by patching Windows DLL files, skipping the CPU version check, and delivering updates to Windows 7 and 8.1 computers running 7th generation CPUs.
let me install a random patch from some dude named "zeffy"
You hit an illegal instruction exception because some instruction selected by a
compiler optimization or performance library doesn't exist on your CPU.
How long until they do something to break this?
Because they didn't want to.
Scumbags.
They want to force Windows 10 on everyone.
My Win 7 box will run until no more security updates come in 2020.
Thanks to the guy that figured this out.
I thought MS caved and said they wouldn't support new CPU features on old OSes?
Taking bets; M$ will release a 'patch' that has one intent: to deliberately break this 'fix'; so M$ can say "told you it wouldn't work". The bigger problem is: We won't know which "patch" M$ will 'break' to induce this problem.
BTW: It is no big effort for M$ to continue to test this as almost all testing by M$ is automated. There is an alter-motive behind this. Which I knew what it was.
ONLY apps can app apps! Anyone who installs this LUDDITE patch instead of apping appy Appdows 10 Cloud is a filthy LUDDITE!
Apps!
After using Windows since 3.1 I can't stand it anymore and I think Apple is just as bad. My move to Linux has already started and I have to say it's really easy. Still playing around with Ubuntu and Mint but I either one seems fine for now.
It is so ridiculous. We have this overly complex and backward compatible x86 ISA that still runs all 8086 (https://t2-project.org/architectures/x86/) real mode crap, probably DOS 1.0 and Windows 1, and M$ artificially limits booting based on a switch(cupid) or so, ...
What a stupid world.
Most Windows Updates involve rarely utilized components that are exploitable only if not protected through other measures (specifically firewalls). I haven't seen anything come down the pipe that increased performance.
I hope to not require Windows in the future but Windows Update is disabled on my Win7 machine and everything's in its right place.
Thanks for thinking of people who won't run Windows > 7, but no thanks. I've got enough machine to run the Windows software I've got now, and except for very cheap games (of the sort which have already been released now, or older) I'm unlikely to ever give a crap again.
The next machine I build with a more advanced architecture than this FX-8350 will just have to run Linux.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Anyone have a patch that makes my computer look like a Ryzen?
It might be the only reliable way to disable Microsoft sponsored malware.
You can fix up windows 10 to remove all telemetry and cruft. But then... drum-roll please... the updates don't install.
Windows is like taxes. You don't like it and someone else makes you do it anyway. Adobe Suite, Cad software, specialized programs... they are a thing.
I'm not doing this unless it can screw up my windows 7 installs with the same Microsoft quality updates that bitch up my Windows 10 installs.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
They broke XT/AT compatibility somewhere between '06 and '09 on both AMD and Intel. The breakage happened with the floppy controller, ISA interrupt controller, and something else.
Point being: Backwards compatibility older than Vista has been broken for almost 10 years now for ACTUAL legacy OSes (userspace may be different), and many other bigs have been broken on processors in the past 5 years, in regards to TLB operation and other bits and pieces needed for 16/32 bit compatibility to still operate correctly. You plebs just haven't noticed because you're on the upgrade treadmill and never bother to try old software with new hardware (or vice versa!)
No, Windows 7 won't be "unstable" on Skylake / Kaby Lake / Ryzen. The only reason MS is pushing this is because they want that juicy 30% cut of garbage apps on the Windows 10 Store.
... you shouldn't have voted for Trump. On the whole, liberals are more compatible with liberty than conservatives.
Recent changes re: privacy can easily be extended to warranties and anything else that benefits consumers. States' rights certainly don't matter. Look at Sessions's comments on marijuana, for example.
Instead of downloading this patch that allows Misrosoft to continue to install their shitware crippleOS on your computer, why not point your browser, if you even have one on your computer that WORKS, at a website from which you can download a REAL operating system, such as www.linuxmint.org, where you can get a copy of GNU/Linux with either MATE, or Cinnamon, (desktop environments, one of which is a fork of the venerable old Gnome, before they ruined it,) and the other is similar, but still a bit of a twist? GNU/Linux has a feature set that is UNMATCHED by any of the garbage from Redmond, Washington's worst blight to hit the planet Earth.
For example: GNU/Linux can run on more different hardware! It takes far less of your system resources to do THE SAME EXACT JOB, since it doesn't have to consume a lot of processor time decrypting itself, which is an anti-piracy measure, by the way, which means when you run a piece of shitware from the miserable shits at Misroshit, you are letting them use memory and processor clock-cycles on YOUR computer, to pad THEIR bottom line, which just like the shitware itself, COSTS YOU MONEY. Further, just like when MiscreantSoft forces you to pay OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN for what is essentially the same malware delivery platform masquerading as an "operating system," (hahaha,) all the extra time and electricity you have to sacrifice just to help FuckroSoft pad their owners' bank accounts ALSO costs you money. Forcing you into "upgrading" a perfectly good computer because your current, again, perfectly good computer, which you ALREADY spent money on, can't run the newest turd to be squeezed through their corporate sphincters, Windows FU, or whatever they called the latest abomination, COSTS YOU MORE MONEY. Having to relearn their stupid shitty "operating system," (hahaha) every time they decide to fucking rearrange everything, and hide shit, COSTS YOU MORE TIME, which for many people means MONEY. GNU/Linux has the power to do whatever MicroPenisCo's software can do, BETTER, FASTER, CHEAPER, and does it WITHOUT spamming you with ADS!
'Linux,' (as it's commonly known, though that only actually refers to the kernel,) has, yes, a bit of a learning curve, like any UNIX or UNIX-like operating system, but here's another crucial difference. "Windows," (which was FAR from the first goddamned graphical user interface, or "GUI,") started out as a GUI slapped on top of a pile of shitware called, "DOS," which started off as "QDOS," from (IMS,) SeattleSoft, which stood for "quick and dirty operating system," which was a stripped-down, handicapped, short-bus-riding version of CP/M, which in turn was a retarded, low memory, low bandwidth, low capability, (etc., etc., etc.,) alternative to... UNIX, which those early computers weren't capable of running. Every version of DOS, and later Win/DOS, and then WinNT, and all the wet, sloppy turds that followed, like a river of diarrhea out of Redmond, shittiest town in Washington State, (because of MisroFuck, I'm sure it's a lovely place otherwise, but they have to take SOME responsibility for the Frankensteinian monster that grew there, don't they?) had to be compatible with previous versions, which meant more and more bloat. This required more processor and memory power (and hard drive space!) required to do the same thing, trapping poor, unfortunate users into an endless cycle of upgrading software, then hardware, then software, then hardware again, mostly just to get the same shit done, and of course paying over and over again every time the old version of the application software (the programs people use that are the whole POINT of owning a computer in the first place,) gets updated to run on the new pile of pigshit from FuckYouSoft, which again, costs even MORE money.
Ever find yourself wondering what Bill Goddamned Fucking Asshole Pile of Thieving Shit Gates, The Turd, DID to EARN close to a tenth of a TRILLION dollars as his personal fortune, to say nothing of the ill-gotten gains that found their way into a lot of other shiftl
What!! Ha! That's deeply offensive to Microsoft! Microsoft is professional at delivering evil. Random dudes are not nearly as good. What random dude could do this: Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made.
"Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
This is obviously highly illegal. I hope Microsoft sues.
I have an install of Win8 on my laptop in case I have to run something that can't execute in wine.
But my virtualbox VM is also isolated from the 'net with a virtual unplugged cable and boots from an image which I regularly remake from the install I archived years ago.
The only Issue I have is that latest Directx drivers do not support the virtualbox virtual video to GLX adapter driver, but that is just for gaming in my experience.
In other circles this is called a "crack", not a "patch".
Actually bypassing the blocker Windows update is the easy part. But this doesn't address CPU's not getting support drivers to take advantage of all features the CPU has. While I think Microsoft made the wrong choice in blocking these CPU's in the first place on Win 7 and 8,1. I do think people fail to understand that just because you can make these new CPU's work. Doesn't mean they work as designed.
Well, Micro$oft uses such nasty way to force us to upgrade to Windows 10, I think it is the high time to get rid of M$ Windows, and Linux is a good alternative.
If you don't want to use Windows 10, there are always alternatives.
Yes. The best being Windows 7. The second best being Windows XP if your motherboard and other hardware has drivers for it. If you meant Linux well surely you were already dual booting that. The only point of running Windows is for software that does not have a viable Linux equivalent and there are lots unfortunately.
Microsoft has been evil and inept for a long time, but they are reaching new levels of both pure evil and ineptitude with Windows 10. I won't downgrade to that piece of shit while I am still breathing. It is unfortunate that Microsoft wants to penalize me for using their own software just because it isn't their newest and shiniest version. Well it would be their newest and shiniest version if they weren't such stupid incompetent and evil fuckwits who make their software worse with every version instead of better. I am hoping that sanity will eventually prevail over there at Retard Central and eventually a XP or Windows 7 equivalent will be released at some point, but I fear that this may be the time when those cunts never return from their journey into Retardoland. A massive software company entirely run by and for sociopaths with Downs syndrome. Fuck you Microsoft. I will wait for some version of Windows that at least tries to serve the needs of the user rather than be some uber-cynical money grab.
Really the lack of updates isn't a major problem anyway. You should really be doing whatever you can with Linux or OS X if you care so much about security. For software you need to run that is Windows only just keep using 7 (or 8 I guess) until defeated by a lack of drivers. Drivers, particularly motherboard chipset drivers, are the real problem and Microsoft has colluded with Intel and possibly even AMD to try to prevent hardware manufacturers from writing drivers that support Windows 7. This is despite the fact that Windows 7 support does not end until 2020 three long years from now. So there is no excuse except that Microsoft thinks they will make more money this way.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
Microsoft has deprecated old versions of Windows on this hardware for a reason
Yes and we all know what that reason is. No one wants to run Windows 10. Almost everyone hates it. Probably has something to do with the fact that it is very badly designed malware disguised as an OS, but who knows. For whatever reason it is the new Windows ME. The difference is this time Microsoft wants to try to force people to use it and apparently are willing to spend millions of dollars to try to make that happen. I mean fuck they can't even give it away for free. How are they ever going to get end users to pay for their steaming pile of shite? They could have tried this with ME too but I guess the management at the time were not as cynical or evil as they are now. I can't think of a company off hand with as much contempt for their own customers as Microsoft.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
I sure this is a TOS violation. Is it it criminal? To patch it? To download it? To make it? To talk about it? To think about me? Thought-crime is so insidious.
^ Exactly, running Windows any version, is CPU abuse. Stop the abuse, NOW!
I bet FreeDOS and ReactOS will run just fine.
What happens when an update that works only on newer CPUs is run on a Zeffy-hacked Win 7 system?
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
A stupid and basic question - Why is no one suing Microsoft for changes after purchase (I bought it, now you won't update my chip) AND outright information Theft.?