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In The First Months of Trump Era, Facebook And Apple Spent More On Lobbying Than They Ever Have (buzzfeed.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: According to federal lobbying disclosures filed Thursday, Facebook and Apple set their all-time record high for spending in a single quarter. Facebook spent $3.2 million lobbying the federal government in the first months of the Trump era. During the same period last year, Facebook spent $2.8 million (about 15% less). The company lobbied both chambers of Congress, the White House, and six federal agencies on issues including high-tech worker visas, network neutrality, internet privacy, encryption, and international taxation. Facebook was the 12th-highest spender out of any company and second-highest in tech. [...] Apple spent $1.4 million, which is just $50,000 more than during the final months of the Obama presidency, when it set its previous record, but the most it has ever spent in a single quarter. Apple lobbied on issues including government requests for data, the regulation of mobile health apps, and self-driving cars. Google, once again, outspent every other technology company. It was 10th overall, tallying $3.5 million.

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  1. H-1B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their gravy train of cheap labor is coming to an end.

    1. Re:H-1B by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't wait to see that bloated piece of vatnik trash perp-walked out of the White House.

  2. also the next time apple is asked unlock a phone by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    also the next time apple is asked unlock a phone will apple put up a fight?

  3. Where are the good sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This source is utter $h1t

  4. Re:also the next time apple is asked unlock a phon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If by "fight" you mean they'll undress, get on all fours, put their head on the ground and pull open their ass cheeks, yes.

  5. Buzzfeed by mfh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Buzzfeed seems to only link their own articles in their stories, so it's not convenient to fact-check them. I would have prefered some other information on this subject and since there is none in the TFA, I will provide you with some more info on this lobbying dollout:

    https://www.wired.com/2016/11/...

    https://www.theguardian.com/us...

    http://www.cbronline.com/news/...

    From an obnoxious website that I won't link because of how totally obnoxious their javascript is; you may wish to read this anyway:

    f the surprising election win by President-elect Donald Trump left you feeling dispirited, you may be looking for a way to take action.
    One way you could do so is donating money or time to causes you believe stand against Trump's politics. Conversely, you could hold back your money â" by boycotting companies and/or corporate executives that stand against your beliefs.
    As of mid-September, no CEO of a Fortune 100 company supported Trump by donating to his campaign.
    But in other ways, and in the time since, a few big companies have shown support for the president-elect â" directly or indirectly.
    Here are five examples.
    New Balance
    The day after the election, Matthew LeBretton, vice president of public affairs for the sneaker brand New Balance, told a Wall Street Journal reporter: "The Obama administration turned a deaf ear to us and frankly with President-elect Donald Trump, we feel things are going to move in the right direction."
    After that message went out, angry people on Twitter shared photos showing them destroying or trashing their New Balance shoes.
    In response, New Balance issued a statement to Sole Collector clarifying its position.
    "As the only major company that still makes athletic shoes in the United States, New Balance has a unique perspective on trade and trade policy in that we want to make more shoes in the United States, not less," the statement reads. "New Balance publicly supported the trade positions of Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump prior to Election Day that focused on American manufacturing job creation and we continue to support them today."
    Yuengling
    On a final campaign swing through Pennsylvania at the end of October, Trump's son Eric stopped by the Yuengling Brewery in Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania.
    Richard "Dick" Yuengling Jr., who is 73 and the fifth-generation owner of the nation's oldest beer company, gave him a tour.
    "Our guys are behind your father," Yuengling said, the Reading Eagle reported. "We need him in there."
    Eric Trump promised a Trump presidency would help businesses like Yuengling, a $550 million company with breweries in Pottsville and East Norwegian Township in Pennsylvania and Tampa, Florida.
    "Maybe your dad will build a hotel in Pottsville, or serve Yuengling in his hotels," Yuengling said, jokingly, according to the Eagle.
    Following the visit, there were calls on Twitter for a consumer boycott of the beermaker.
    Home Depot
    Kenneth Langone, one of the co-founders of Home Depot, has been publicly supporting Trump since May.
    After supporting GOP presidential candidates New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and then Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Langone settled on Trump.
    "And you want to know something?" Langone said on CNBC's "Closing Bell" in May. "I think he'll do a hell of a good job. At least I'm hoping."
    Langone even doubled down after Trump bragged about sexual assault in the bus video leaked in October.
    When asked for comment about the Langone's support, Stephen Holmes, the director of corporate communications for Home Depot said: "The Home Depot nor our CEO endorse Presidential candidates. Ken is a co-founder, and was once on our board of direc

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    1. Re:Buzzfeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is sad, all the lefties wearing Nike$ that are made for pennies in Oriental sweatshops are bashing the American Made New Balance shoes.
      Maybe they would be happier living in Venezuela.

    2. Re:Buzzfeed by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      So basically there are 5 companies that "support" Donald Trump? And by support I mean say nice things about him not give him big payouts like Hilliary was getting? Hard to boycott nobody. The left already dumped all the hate they could on Hobby Lobby and they just shrugged it off. Most of their business is from people who think Trump is a little too far left. I think this shit is hilarious. Trump doesn't really owe anyone a damn thing except a bunch of redneck right wingers and a few people in the middle who found Hilliary just a little too fucked up. The only really big organization I can think of that supported him is the NRA and the left already hates on them at the maximum. I'm loving it.

  6. Draining the swamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    .. In to the pockets of the rich.

    Trump: A loser president, supported by losers, elected by losers.

    1. Re:Draining the swamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww does somebody need a safe space and hugs? Lol that's why you have amounted to nothing in your lifetime.

    2. Re:Draining the swamp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sup loser.

  7. Did You Vote Yet? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now I'm wondering if Facebook's "Did you vote yet?" campaign last November was a last gasp of thinking that the system is actually democratic before just knuckling down and paying for favorable treatment or if by then they were already participating as part of the system that keeps the People cowed into thinking that their vote is a symbol of freedom rather than one of control.

    Perhaps as these companies broaden out to be real multi-nationals and they gain experience with governments around the world, they're becoming astutely aware of how commonplace bribery and corruption is and that helps them lift the veil on the reality of DC politics.

    We can not like it and not blame them for doing what it takes to survive at the same time. "Blame the system, not the player," as they say.

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    1. Re:Did You Vote Yet? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      On the one hand, is expect their lobbying budget to grow no matter who won. They are growing companies after all.

      Trump and the Republicans gets special attention because of their policies on the internet and science. Also because Trump is relatively easy to influence - Shi Jinping made him do a 180 on NK in just ten minutes!

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  8. Damned straight, I don't want cheap politicians! by pecosdave · · Score: 2

    No more of these dime a dozen problems caused by cheap bribery, I only want to deal with massive high dollar issues caused by bribery!

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  9. The Gilded Age... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    So many pockets to fill, so little time.

  10. Re:Damned straight, I don't want cheap politicians by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    Only the best government your money can buy!

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  11. So lobbying has become less efficient? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If corporations have to increase their spending that means it's gotten harder for them. The low rates of the previous adminstration obviously don't work anymore.

    Also, Buzzfeed? Really?

    1. Re:So lobbying has become less efficient? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If corporations have to increase their spending that means it's gotten harder for them. The low rates of the previous adminstration obviously don't work anymore.

      Also, Buzzfeed? Really?

      More likely the range of things they feel the need to lobby for/against has risen as faith in the administration to not pick the stupidest availabe option has fallen.

    2. Re:So lobbying has become less efficient? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Eh? If people are spending more on beer it could mean that beer has got more expensive. It could equally mean they're drinking more of it.

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  12. Re:also the next time apple is asked unlock a phon by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    I bet the next time Apple is asked to unlock a phone the government won't ask nicely this time.

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  13. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reality is that we now have the least transparent administration in a very long time.

    FTFY - The Trump Administration is discarding 40+ years of post-Watergate reforms.

  14. FIFO by Arzaboa · · Score: 1

    Seems like the entire spine of the executive branch is open to making deals and being persuaded. Getting in there first to his brain and setting the boundaries of the conversation going forward was very smart. No wonder the president thinks he's such an easy to get along with guy. If you paint a picture of a dark world, and present the lightbulb as the only way to brighten it, you're a genius in his world.

  15. Bribing not Lobbying by Neuronwelder · · Score: 2

    At least be honest about it. It's bribery legalized.

  16. Re:greasing the wheel.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alternative way to look at this is that Apple and Facebook are no longer getting the favoritism they did under Obama and their money isn't going as far as it used to.

  17. Re:greasing the wheel.... by DaHat · · Score: 1

    Given the relative differences between how much the Clinton & Trump campaigns spent on the election (http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-campaign-spending), it seems as if the idea of buying votes is not as easy as once thought.

  18. NOT THE PLACE FOR YOUR POLITICAL BEEFS! by bwanagary · · Score: 1

    Please stop it. There are plenty of places to express your political point of view - slashdot is not one of those.

    1. Re:NOT THE PLACE FOR YOUR POLITICAL BEEFS! by Ann+O'Nymous-Coward · · Score: 1

      You Must Be New Here.

  19. Monopoly abuse. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are talking about the obvious issues but I think the end game for Facebook anyway, is to get connected to battle against tough anti trust enforcement. Ditto for Goog. Say what you will about trump, but he did talk about monopolies in the campaign and he has a history with it having won an abuse of monopoly suit against the NFL in the 80s. (The award was $1 so basically a win on paper only).

  20. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by psycho12345 · · Score: 1

    "When it comes to policy decisions, it will do the right thing, and lobbying won't have any real impact."

    Yeah, this is the part people seriously doubt.

    When lobbying is no longer effective, you have moved into far darker territory, where now, there is only 3 manners of decision making: Nepotism, whims, and ideological bent of the person in charge.

    Dictatorships are also relatively immune to lobbying. Do we really want to end up there? Lobbying is bad, limiting access to your government is worse, since now it is completely clear the government will do whatever it wants, consequences be dammed.

  21. Lobbying should be illegal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you need to pay money to get your congressman to not be a retard and vote the way you want them to, then the entire system is corrupt.
    Lobbying is essentially bribery, except legal.

  22. Re:greasing the wheel.... by evolutionary · · Score: 1

    Not sure that article is a clear indicator on how much was spent or by whom. It only says what Trump CLAIMS to have spent. (and he's not the most honest individual out there as his business ventures have shown)

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  23. Not necessarily because of Trump by reginaldo · · Score: 1

    This, in my opinion, has less to do with a Trump Presidency and more to do with both houses of Congress being held by the same majority. Where there previously was gridlock, there now is a hope for legislation actually passing at a decent volume. Why spend money on a locked congress getting next to nothing done, wait until there is some ability for action.

    That being said, I do also think the content of legislation comes into play as well (tax code, H1-B).

  24. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    The reality is that we now have the least-corruptible administration in a very long time. Many of the top personnel are quite independently very wealthy, which makes lobbying to them pointless and ineffective.

    "Corrupt rich people can't be corrupted" is a very stupid argument. How do you think they got rich in the first place?

    The benefit of having government made up of rich, corrupt people is that they're already corrupted, so the little dance around ethical barriers can be dispensed with from the get-go and you can go straight to the quid pro quo.

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  25. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When lobbying is no longer effective, you have moved into far darker territory, where now, there is only 3 manners of decision making: Nepotism, whims, and ideological bent of the person in charge.

    So wait. Adding 'whatever Comcast and Facebook paid them to decide' to the list somehow makes it better?
    "Sure the president doesn't give one good goddamn about us, but at least they passed a bill which lets Comcast claim 256kbit/s is high-speed broadband!"

  26. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

    Being rich != Corrupt

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  27. i wonder if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    most companies revamp lobbying when the administration changes.

  28. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    That means that each dollar being spent is having less of an effect, and so more money is needed to try to get results similar to those in the past.

    Why do you think that's the case?

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  29. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    Being rich != Corrupt

    There's ample evidence that in late-stage capitalism, being rich does indeed equal being corrupt.

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  30. Burying the lede - Google was #1 by alispguru · · Score: 1

    From the last sentence of the summary:

    Google, once again, outspent every other technology company. It was 10th overall, tallying $3.5 million.

    Why was this not in the title?

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    1. Re:Burying the lede - Google was #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Google didn't spend more but spent less? Dunno, you read the story and tell us...

    2. Re:Burying the lede - Google was #1 by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Maybe Google didn't spend more but spent less? Dunno, you read the story and tell us...

      Yeah, they spent $60,000 less. And no, that's not in the story.

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  31. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    He's making America great again, like it was 40 years ago.

    Like everything was 40 years ago...

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  32. Lobbying? You mean bribing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't we call this what it really is?

    Lobbying is nothing more than legalized bribing and needs to be outlawed.

    Unfortunately that would involve those that make the laws, and I'm sure they'd be bribed/lobbied to not make that law.

  33. Shy is news for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linking to Buzzfeed a known fake news, highly partisan churnalist website? We should go a step above on this website and only link to Actual Journalists who are not trying to push a narrative. But that may difficult to find in this day and age

  34. The best president money can buy! by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

    ... at least its all out in the open now.

  35. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't mean its less effective if its more expensive. It just means the companies have more money to spend, or the issues are more important to them.
    It should be expensive by having to pay fines of a percentage of a companies net worth if they get caught doing it. Only 3rd rate countries have such institutionalized corruption.
    A few executions wouldn't go astray to discourage the practice either.

  36. Re:Costlier lobbying is a good thing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Democracies are far more immune to lobbying by corporations. Maybe you should try that instead for your country.

  37. It does make sense. by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 1

    Where Obama was fairly forward-looking and Hillary appeared to have a similar outlook; 45 is overtly hostile towards the technology sector and its interests in general; and the Bay Area and Silicon Valley in particular. Given said hostility on the part of the executive branch, it does make sence that Google, Facebook, Apple, and company, would look to buying themselves some congresscritters as a defensive move. Perilous times, and all that.

    It's very far from an ideal situation. But tech has suffered in the past from not playing "the game". For example, in the 1990s, tech lobbying was minimal, allowing the RIAA and MPAA to blindside them by buying the DMCA. How much time and money, would you guess, has been wasted in tech complying with the copyright cartel on that one law alone? How many tech companies did their lot outright put out of business? It wasn't just Napster by a long shot. You can hardly blame tech for determining not to make the same mistake a second time.

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  38. WTF this is Chump change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few million is nothing to these companies, like getting a cup of coffee! If lobbying is so cheap then why don't citizens band together and create their own lobby? A quick search shows they have, this being the biggest/most popular citizens lobby http://citizensclimatelobby.org

  39. Should have spent the money on training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they should have spent that money on training all of the workers they deem unqualified so they don't have to rely on hiring non-citizens. You know, invest in the nation and it's people rather than themselves.

  40. And we get no voice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't our elected officials supposed to be working for us?