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Trump Order Helps Offshore Drilling, Stops Marine Sanctuary Expansion (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In an executive order signed on Friday, President Trump directed his secretary of the interior to review current rules on offshore drilling and exploration. This review is likely to result in a relaxation of the strict protections the previous administration put on offshore oil drilling in the Atlantic and in the Arctic. According to the Washington Post, a review of the rules is likely to "make millions of acres of federal waters eligible for oil and gas leasing." At the same time, Trump's executive order directed the secretary of commerce to cease designating new marine sanctuaries or expanding any that already exist. According to USA Today, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is also "directed to review all designations and expansions of marine monuments or sanctuaries designated under the Antiquities Act within the last 10 years." The Post says this "includes Hawaii's Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument, which Obama quadrupled in size last year, and the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts off Massachusetts." Although these reviews could take some time to complete, they put in motion a bid to favor extraction industries like oil and gas mining. "Today, we're unleashing American energy and clearing the way for thousands and thousands of high-paying energy jobs," Trump reportedly told the Associated Press.
Is there oil off the coast of Mar-a-Lago? Trump pitched a fit about a wind farm off the coast of Scotland near his golf course there. Wonder how he'd feel about a few oil drilling platforms or a spill?
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
No.
This is very important. This is pushing is one step closer to environmental destruction. No more marine life, just so some oil companies can get richer even faster.
This is important.
And fuck Trump.
Trump bashing is important to help the people. Help the people.
Because nearly everything he does is harmful to humanity in some way. Thats why.
Sadly, less and less ruffnecks (actually, the motorman would be doing it) know how to spin the chain because of those so call "ironruffnecks".
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
Not being able to drill for enough oil really isn't the problem with America's economy. Someone should tell this fucking idiot.
You know that, right? We wanted this. Wanted the chaos. God help us all.
I had a crazy driller once. Instead of using 2 tongs to break the joint between pipes while pulling out, he'd only use one combined with the torque of the rotary table.
God, we broke all records with regards to efficiently pulling out.
The iron ruffnecks are almost an order of magnitude less efficient in term of speed.
Anyway, sure it makes workers safer and I have nothing against it.
We sure had to keep our heads down and hope for the best when the backup cable tied to the A-leg was handling all the load of breaking the joint.
I am just saying; that was the old days...
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
Offshore drilling is dying.
It is not because of regulation or marine sanctuaries.
It is because of fracking.
Offshore drilling is hecka expensive, with huge liabilities if something goes wrong.
Deepwater Horizon ended up costing $62 Billion.
It is way cheaper to park a fracking rig in a North Dakota wheatfield.
So once again, Trump is pushing policies that make no difference in the real world.
He isn't going to revive coal mining.
He isn't going to revive offshore drilling.
At $45 / bbl who is going to be doing any offshore exploring?
None of them can see the clouds; The polished wings don't care.
He wasn't the person chosen by 'we the people'. So all the "America deserve this"/ "this is what America has come to"/ "blame ourselves" bullshit, that's *not* what America is.
It's not even what the Republican party is. They were hijacked too. A combination of their rule rigging (remember the 2012 Teleprompter "the ayes have it"?). And the endless voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering, means they don't have a solid majority to keep them pro-America.
At times, you could watch Fox and turn over to Russia Today, and you couldn't tell the difference they were so aligned.
"Party before country" thinkers just follow whatever flag the leader is carrying. Even a false flag of a foreign nation.
Obama actually did set aside large areas of endangered habitat from such destructive activities - Like the arctic, a perfect example. Trump has no understanding of why Obama did that, only that BECAUSE Obama did that, it must be his retarded life mission to overturn that to please his moronic base, cost be damned.
And you fell for it? How? Seriously, you can't be stupid enough to try to compare Obama's record to Trumpy's can you? Honestly, lol.
Say what you will about Obama, mention every single failure from 8 years three times... it still won't compare to Trump's selling-out in just these first 100 days.
Is there any lasting damage from Deepwater Horizon? No, not really. Nothing that anyone can easily point to. It was a worst case scenario come true, and a few years later you have to look really hard for evidence it happened at all.
That's the reality. Does the reality matter at all?
Sigh. I'm still not convinced people like you are real, rather than just trolls. I have been coming across people like you more often though... just online thankfully.
But if you want to get into specifics, my main gripe with him is that he promised free college and debt forgiveness, while completely ignoring how the political climate and the lobbying power of that industry would have made that an impossibility. He promised so much in general that the other Democrats were scrambling to counter him. The only one who wasn't doing that, Jim Web, left the race rather than take part in that sham.
He's after the appearance of *trying* to bring jobs back. If he has that, he'll keep his supporters even if the jobs never come.
No, you either need to live in the gulf area, or listen to news from the area. Like most things, peoples memories are far too short for the good of the species. Is there lasting damage from it? Yes, it's just not in the news every day.... and stupid people have forgotten about it, or try to minimize it.
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he isn't going to live long enough to suffer the effects of any of his boneheaded decisions, either. so what does he care.. he's not just rich, but OLD, too...
... Jim Web, left the race rather than take part in that sham.
Jim Webb didn't leave the race because of his "high principles". He left race because he had 1% if the vote.
Years ago, Webb actively campaigned to have women kicked out of the service academies. He resigned as Reagan's Secretary of the Navy because he wanted more money to buy even more weapons that we didn't need. And this guy expected to be elected by Democratic primary voters? He was in the wrong party.
Somehow you managed to respond to the wrong post or are mentally deficient. Either way, your post made no sense in regard to the discussion you replied to.
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Offshore drilling is dying.
It is not because of regulation or marine sanctuaries.
It is because of fracking.
Offshore drilling is hecka expensive, with huge liabilities if something goes wrong.
Deepwater Horizon ended up costing $62 Billion.
It is way cheaper to park a fracking rig in a North Dakota wheatfield.
What makes you think Trump isn't going to make short work with the huge liabilities? That way, the companies earn more when things go well and everybody pays when things go bad, the net effect being a diffusion from the pockets of the poor into the pockets of the rich. Which is what Trump stands for.
The lying bag of fat we call Trump is an outrage. We need far more protection of the rivers and oceans than we have ever had before. We need to totally get rid of coal and we need to reduce the use of oil and gasoline as well. Climate change is behind quite a few of the wars in the Arab regions and we are already paying a dreadful price for past and current pollution. What we do not need is a sleeze bag trying to destroy conservation efforts.
You have simplified a lot of very very complex topics.
Offshore drilling is cheap as chips. Offshore drilling in incredibly deep water with unfavourable geology is expensive. Things constantly go wrong in offshore drilling. Barely a week goes by without another leak, spill or something. The difference is it rarely happens in the way that deepwater horizon did with known failsafe systems having previously unknown failure modes, and its worth remembering that this happened to the deepest offshore drilling well in the world.
As for parking a fracking rig anywhere, yeah I don't think the existing owners of the field are going to like you very much. Fraking doesn't magically suck oil out of the air, you still need to find geology that supports it and contains an oil field. For the most part there's very little untapped oil. Then there's the whole fact that fracking oil in North Dakota is hell sour compared to the conventional oil and therefore hard to sell and often goes at a huge discount.
Right now oil majors can't seem to offload fracking rigs and the wells they sit on fast enough, while investing more and more in offshore rigs. Hell your horribly expensive $62billion disaster pulled the breaks on offshore drilling, but even that has stopped with the company involved just approving a $15bn investment that was put on hold in 2013 for Mad Dog 2 deep water field with the hope to start drilling ... early next year.
2 weeks ago Shell announced a $13bn new deep water project, hot on the heels of winning engineering awards for their successful deep water well that went into production only a few months ago. Exxon is negotiating with Brazil for more access to offshore deep water permits, oh and only 3 days ago awarded multi-billion dollar contracts to start developing the Lisa deepwater field. And this is just deepwater, the riskiest of the bunch. There's still a shitload of untapped beautifully sweet light and shallow Norwegian crude out there as well oil companies love to plonk rigs up on when the going gets tough and they need something cheap to prop up the balance sheet.
Trump's policy won't make a difference, I agree with that. But offshore isn't dying in the slightest. If anything, fracking is what is experiencing an unprecedented level of legal challenge in the world right now, and if there's one thing in doubt, I'd say it's the future of gas fracking.
Support freedom and US energy independence.
I support both things highly which is why we need to dump oil entirely. Solar, wind and nuclear (especially 4th gen reactors) could make us fully independent if we only invested in them.
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Like when Obama expanded offshore drilling (before the Deepwater Horizon disaster):
http://www.politico.com/story/2010/03/obama-expands-offshore-drilling-035223
Because even if they were exempt from all liabilities, new off-shore drilling (especially in the arctic) is just not cost-competitive. Plus, there's the longer lead times that tie up capital that could be put into other wells that have a more immediate return.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
All you have to do is set yourself to -1 and you will experience /. in all its glory. Why is an overhaul needed? The answer is before your eyes and you still want to ignore it? Perhaps some inward soul searching is in order? For example, why would you want others to filter content that you are perfectly capable of filtering yourself?
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Then why did Trump take the visitor logs to the white house out of public view, if lobbyists are "so powerless?"
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
For example, it is pretty obvious that any post that contains "SJW" or "snowflake" is not worth reading. People who use those terms put no thoughts into their posts and only spew out the hatred they hear from the like of Limbaugh and O'Reilly.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
As a gay miner, can confirm. Drilling holes of all types is always fun and arousing!
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I thought it was the right-wingers who were trying to prevent aid money from going for family planning?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Nuclear only looks cost-effective when propped up by large government subsidies and allowing the environmental impact to be someone else's problem.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Your momma said the same thing last night!
The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
Until his supporter who wanted jobs realize they are not coming back. For example his promise to bring back coal. Coal is in a worse state that offshore drilling. At least with drilling, companies can get oil and natural gas which are used in many applications. The uses of coal are dwindling.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Does no one read the article? Even the little summary has it. "This review is likely to result in a relaxation of the strict protections the previous administration". Likely hardly sounds like enough to make the assumptions in the article. Do people really just glaze over this shit and ignore it? No wonder it's so crazy now a days. People have no reading comprehension anymore. This story is nothing more that an opinionated piece of drivel from a left leaning tech site that doesn't even cover tech well anymore. You can hate Trump as much as you want but if you fall for the bullshit of articles like this one, Trump is the least of your problems.
very good
I'm giving up moderating hoping to wake some people up.
1) Nuclear power takes 10+ years to build. This is fact not some next gen "in 5 years" magical nuclear power which can go from permit to power in a year. By the time they build nuclear power, the coal plants will have been running too long. Global warming has time limits... which we probably passed already (but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to minimize how much we are screwed.)
2) Solar is cheaper than nuclear, has been for years now. Wind I believe did or will soon.
3) Nuclear is HEAVILY subsidized by government, it's totally dishonest. If you subsidized solar and wind that much they'd be so much cheaper it would be funny to look at anything else. (coal is subsidized too; even with automation killing about half their jobs natural gas is the main reason they can't compete and I don't think natural gas is subsidized as much as coal.)
4) Base power issues are almost solvable with an upgraded GRID. the transition process might take 10 years (depending on our motivation if we acted like this was WW3 it would be done in no time.) Natural Gas can fill the gap.
5) Battery storage is a new market. It is moving quickly. We could move to storage right now at higher prices-- we don't need to WAIT for the perfect solution-- which is a common trick used to delay progress. The time and cost wasted on nuclear can be put into battery storage power. If we are SERIOUS we can take the added expense on, it's pure BS to say we can't do something right now.
6) Nuclear regulation is poor and less of it won't help; more of it likely won't help either since it's just more of the same incompetence. They only people who seem capable of managing nuclear properly is our military. The worries about it being safe are totally justified. Sure newer stuff is better, the newest things actually being done NOW are way better but are they as safe as our growing incompetence? I think that is hard to predict... Maybe the "in 5 years" tech will be that safe but it's going to take too long to implement even with a faster build process because it's new tech that won't be proven for maybe the 10 years a conventional nuclear plant would take to build.
7) too many people. most problems are a result of too many people in the world. that is the topic that never gets discussed. we will have 10 billion people not long from now unless a bunch die off. (many years ago now everybody needed was born-- they will have kids at projected rates and that gives us 10 billion. known. already. trends have to drastically change for the basic stats to not be proven true.)
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This is why I'm for younger presidents - They have to live with what they've done.
Well when enough marine life dies and seafood dwindles, I think something is going to change when people have less on their plates. And rich folk don't have their lobster.
I'm not saying that the by-products of coal are useless. I'm saying the uses of coal are dwindling. In heating alone, coal was used in vastly more homes, schools, businesses, etc in the past than it is used today. Combined with a surplus of coal, it's not likely jobs will be coming back or expanding any time soon.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
It's not like the wikileaks stuff is the only indication of her mistakes. It's out in the open and not really disputed.
You should check out the recent rolling stone review (i.e. not a conservative "rag" or whatever) where her aides and supporters could not answer the question of why Hillary should be running.
Not casting doubt on the peculiarity of the DNC deaths right after the leaks, it's just that your point is out in the open.
He's after the appearance of *trying* to bring jobs back. If he has that, he'll keep his supporters even if the jobs never come.
Up to a point, I expect; the need of a lot of people is very real to them, even if Trump doesn't really know or care, and at some point they will probably begin to realise that he simply isn't going to deliver. It will, of course, always be somebody else's fault, but how long can you really stretch that? Promises that never turn into reality become disappointments, and who knows how angry these people will be when they realise that they have been taken for a ride? Hopefully they will know who to take it out on.
(For those who don't know, the "spinning chain" technique cost an awful lot of people several joints off the tips of their fingers. That's why "iron roughnecks" - machines for torquing up and breaking out pipe connections - were invented.)
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Breaking out with the rotary motor only works if you've got more than about 300ft of pipe in the hole. Above that, you'll spin the slips on the pipe or on the bushing - neither of which is good for the pipe or the bushing. On the pipe you'll increase the likelihood of washing out or twisting off just below the tool joint. On the bushing - well, you don't want to have to free pipe stuck in a worn bushing.
Sure you'll have high pulling speeds. Until you count the lost holes with full LWD strings in them complete with sources. Break out the pink cement. You don't do that too often before your rig gets run off the field.
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How many times have you spun a chain? I am just curious. Anyway, I have several times and I am wondering how you could cut a finger spinning a chain unless you intended to. On the other hand, I have seen injuries when the motorman would lose grip on the chain and we basically ended up with a flying chain whip flying around the drilling floor potentially making several rotation around the pipe thus several pass around our heads.
Basic move to avoid getting hit; crawl on the floor.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
What about drill collars? They are much heavier than 10 pipes (300 feet of pipe)...
So I guess what you are saying depends on the weight of collars in the string.
Anyway, I already said that driller was crazy. Once, he got caught doing it by the toolpusher who ordered him to quit doing it and I was quite happy about that because if the backup cable tying the tong to the A-leg broke, we would have ended up with a flying tong revolving on the floor and killing everything in its path.
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
hehe! I just realized, FYI, it is spelled: "ruffnecks".
Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
Not in Britain, Norway, Tanzania, Abu Dhabi, Russia, Korea, Holland or Canada. Or Benin, Gabon or Turkey. Where are you typing? Oh, I forgot Azerbaijan. And Ireland.
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Einstein never worked a drill floor - did you know? If he'd ever seen a drill crew disappear when a stand of pipe slipped out of the elevators, he'd never have come up with that silly idea that nothing can move faster than light.
Drill floors are nasty dangerous places. Avoid when at all possible. Which for me, is now down to witnessing wireline tool checks, collecting the sidewall cores, and catching conventional core (with breathing apparatus when necessary, and always when cracking the top of the barrel). Oh, and occasionally watching the torque gauge when coming to pick a horizontal casing point.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
Typo. I should have typed "3000 ft." But it is that long since I saw (or cared much) about the practice that my memory may be fading.
Yes, weight of pipe in the string is the critical point. (Or it was when you had drillers who were allowed to do such things. Decades ago, or 5 years in Korea.) But by the time you get into the collars there isn't enough weight to the string to keep it locked in the slips.
Why isn't it allowed any more? Simple - if the pipe spins in the slips, then the dies leave grooves in the neck of the pipe, just below the tool joint. And that has been traced as the root cause of nearly half of side-wall washouts. I've had to write that report myself - microscopic photographs of the torn-off end of pipe after you've pulled he string, with the wash clearly originating in a band of circumferential die-marks. Make the photographs, write the report, and fax it (email, more recently) off to the client office onshore - typically before the drill crew have finished making up the overshot assembly. (Which coincidentally means the on-shift driller and toolpusher are too busy to put a lean on me to cover up the evidence. And of course, once the photos have gone in, there's no point in "accidentally" losing the torn ends of the pipe before shipping them back to shore.
You'll have gathered that I'm hired by oil companies, not drilling companies. Though I've covered enough driller's ass over the years. Like providing records that there was no washout preceding a twist off, just a week before that driller was due to attend his competence exams, where the mantra is "twist-offs are always preceded by a washout".
Another factor to bear in mind is whether the pipe is actually owned by the drilling company, the oil company, or hired from a pipe supply company. Pipe companies for sure don't like their pipe being spun in the slips, and when the pipe comes back to the yard they always inspect every joint for evidence of it. (I used to know a pipe inspector.)
Oh, sorry, you mentioned drill collars. Didn't your drill floor practice require use of a safety clamp ("dog collar" in North Sea English parlance ; I never did figure out what the Korean, Azeri or Russian equivalent was) on every slick (not externally upset) tool joint.
You can tell why one guy is a toolpusher and the other merely a driller.
Dangerous places, drill floors. As you 'pusher obviously appreciated.
But, isn't your maintenance and replacement schedule for the backup lines adequate? It was never my business to do the paperwork on that - toolpusher's job - but I've used enough heavy tool store rooms as temporary sample stores to know that all of the lines stored down there go through the same colour coding and inspection and replacement regime as any other loaded equipment. Hell, at least once I've had to shift my stuff out of the store to make room for the inspector to get at the tools in the store.
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