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Neowin: Microsoft's Windows Phone Business 'Is Dead' (neowin.net)

An anonymous reader quotes Neowin: If you've been expecting Microsoft to issue a press release formally announcing the end of its Windows phone business, you're probably hoping for a bit too much. But make no mistake: its phone hardware business is dead. RIP-dead. Send-flowers-dead. Worm-food-dead. Some fans, and even some in the media, have consistently refused to acknowledge this, despite the clear signs in recent quarters. Now, Microsoft's own figures, and its statements regarding its phone division, should make it irrefutably clear that there is no life left in its Windows phone business.

During the quarter ending in December, Microsoft's phone revenue dropped to just $200 million, which included some sales of feature phones, before the company completed its sale of that business unit to Foxconn in November. That figure has now dropped to virtually nothing... Today, as Microsoft published its earnings report for Q3 FY2017, it revealed that its "Phone revenue declined $730 million". Based on its earlier financial disclosures, that means the company's phone hardware revenue fell to just $5 million for the entire quarter ending March 31, 2017. During Microsoft's earnings call today, its chief financial officer, Amy Hood, acknowledged this, stating that there was "no material phone revenue this quarter". The outlook for the next few months is similarly bleak, as Hood predicted "negligible revenue from Phone" in the coming quarter.

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  1. So all Lumias will stop working? by unixisc · · Score: 3

    If one has a Lumia, then one can still use it in the ways that one uses a cellphone. Talk, send text messages, use Bing maps for directions, listen to music, watch videos... I don't see any of that stopping. Is there an en masse migration of services to VoLTE-only that would make a Lumia unusable? So that it couldn't be used for Legacy GSM networks?

    I agree that the Windows Phone platform has been stagnant, but that only matters if one is heavily into apps and is seeing them pulled from the Windows Store. But for the basic things that a phone does, Windows Phone is still fine. While there were complaints about the original tiles in Windows Phone 8, the look & feel of Windows 10 Mobile has been pretty fluent, and the only thing it lacks is a good app ecosystem. Heck, I'd argue that it's the best in work environments if Windows is the main OS being used - both for servers as well as laptops

    1. Re:So all Lumias will stop working? by quetwo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It won't stop working today, but quickly things will become deprecated and unusable. Things like the web browser will stop rendering pages correctly as standards move on. Things like the app stores will start blocking the device. Things like Bing Maps and other utilities that are tied to the device will stop supporting it. Eventually other APIs will move on and no longer work with the device (like ActiveSync). Of course, somewhere in between IT departments will block it form checking email and syncing calendars/contacts. If Blackberries are of any predictor, this could happen all in the course of a couple of years. You will be left with a smart phone that can do phone calls and text messages.

  2. Neowin: The PRo MS anti slashdot admits by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Informative

    I use that forum too and if it says it is dead that means alot.

    I was hoping it would take around 20% marketshare just for healthy competition even if I do not use it anymore as this would benefit everyone. :-(

    It is not WindowsCE (which sucked) and was a much different and better OS. It usess the same kernel as Windows Server 2012 R2! I loved the UI. Windows 8 rocked on a phone and the back and forward feels more natural than Android. It was stable and very lightweight and ran easier on slower but battery saving cpus. The tiles give you the notifications for news events perfect at a quick glance.

    MS got it backwards with a start menu on WindowsCE and a phone UI on the desktop. Windows Phone should have come out in 2009 if it were to survive. Also WIndows Universal Apps or UWP was not mature until last year! If this was there in 2009/2010 it could have had significant marketshare and be a much needed 3rd player and kept IT and programmers jobs and not made --webkit CSS extensions standard.

    My mom who is 68 years old and has dying eye sight and is techno illerate loves her $50 Windows Phone Nokia 640 unlocked. No way could Android run as good for that cheap for $50. The big tiles make it easier for her to see and understand what each tile does.

    But it makes no sense to buy one as I did not want to invest $500 into a dead platform so I went back to Android 18 months ago. Even if Neowin of all places admits it now it is time to move forward. Ironically this is what killed Unix for Windows. People wanted standards and no one wanted to pay lots of money for Unix or a Commode as everyone was using Windows. Now MS got hit in reverse by the same logic.

  3. Good riddance! by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As we witness the end of this sad tale, let us not forget that Microsoft tried to hijack Nokia's rabidly loyal userbase by planting one of their own as CEO and switching the company to WP, only to be universally rejected. They killed the top-selling smartphone system of the time (Symbian) and the new system that everyone was hyped for (MeeGo), all to peddle a late, rushed, still unfinished piece of crap that no one wanted.

    So, good fucking riddance to stillborn WP, the mobile equivalent of "this is why we can't have nice things" (and by "nice things" I mean MeeGo).

    1. Re:Good riddance! by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Insightful

      MeeGo would have failed too.

      This is the mobile equivalent of the mid 1990s. Unix dying, commodore dead, Apple II dead, Apple dying, OS/2 dying. Windows was the answer and won. Companies only wrote software for Windows as it was the winner because consumers only wanted what companies wrote software for in a cycle. Why blow $2000 on a dead platform when Windows was what everyone was using and was a sure bet etc.

      Funny thing is same is killing WIndows Phone in reverse. Meego was too late. If you were not in by 2009 you were out. 2010/2011 is when mobile developers hit apps on smartphones and consumers knew if they wanted apps they had to make a choice. Apple or Google. MeeGo didn't ahve a playstore and was expected to have mobile carriers be the appstore. Remember the shitty $3.00 midi file ring tones back then? Vommit. Apple gave the carrier the finger. Google followed and rest is history.

      WebOS was pretty cool too and so was QNX by Blackberry. All failed as people wanted companeis to set the standards like what MS did on the desktop.

      I think in 2017 it is done. Move on. Even Steve Jobs admitted Windows won which is why he refused to hire corporate account executives. Same is true here. UWP apis came 8 years too late. Meego never caught on and was a late commer.

  4. Spoiler alert by Trogre · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least their Zune business is alive and well.

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    "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  5. Re:Just an opinion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Non of the big phone sellers in my country sell Windows Phones anymore. They were pretty angry when Microsoft's flagship phone was sold for 750 euro when it finally arrived in our country only to see it appear in a low cost supermarket for only 199 euro 5 weeks later. They were still selling their phone for 750 euro while they were dumped in the supermarket. How do you explain your customers that you ripped them off, even when it is not your fault?
     
    I've read that these phone sellers couldn't even turn the phones back to Microsoft. They had to sell them with a loss to get rid of them.

  6. Still a very good phone OS by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I still like my Windows Phone, and my next one will be a Windows Phone, as well. The UI is much better than the other two.

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    I don't respond to AC's.
  7. Re:Really? by drewsup · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wait... your Windows phone gets updates??!!!
    Wow, you are the lucky one then, because my my Lumia 625 and 635 were promised Win 10,(along with 78% of the MS phone market), then left to die alone in the digital wilderness, like ALL MS hardware eventually does. So Skype,Messenger, and Whatsapp are all unsupported now, in fact, even with the latest FB update, you get stuck in the loop, where if someone messages you, the screen asks to download Messenger, which you cant, they couldnt even roll it back to letting FB receive/reply PM'S,even thought the icon is still there.
    No MS, you lost because your place in the phone arena because you ABANDONED it, it was a TOY to you, Like your first Surface was, Like the Zune was,like...well, ANYTHING not PC related.