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India's Infosys To Hire 10,000 American Workers After Trump Criticism (bloomberg.com)
India's Infosys said it plans to hire 10,000 Americans in the next two years, following criticism from the Trump administration that the company and other outsourcing firms are unfairly taking jobs away from U.S. workers. From a report on Bloomberg: Infosys, which employs about 200,000 people around the world, will expand its local hiring in the U.S. while adding four hubs to research technologies such as artificial intelligence and machine learning. The first location will open in Indiana in August 2017 and is expected to create 2,000 jobs for American workers by 2021, the company said.
They meant to hire 10,000 more in India and accidentally did it in Indiana, instead.
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Anybody here who would work for Infosys?
They'll be lucky to get C student, recent college graduates, useless air thieves to apply. Apparently, just like in India.
I don't even work for companies that use Infosys, let alone work for Infosys directly. I'm not opposed to using consultants, but Infosys, Tata, and WiPro are blacklisted for me. I find it hard to believe I would have executive level buy in to create quality enterprise software systems if they are already willing to use these companies. For a while I just used this as a red flag to investigate the company further, but after consistently being disappointed with what I found I just treat the usage of these outsourcing shops as a complete deal breaker.
I am a big fan of the idea of the H1B program and believe immigrants are the primary thing which has made and continues to make our country great, but companies like Infosys are a blight on our society with no redeeming value I can see.
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When they "discover" that they cannot hire/lure 2000 tech workers in/to Indiana, they will make the claim the indeed there is a tech labor shortage in the US.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
It seems like Infosys is trying to get ahead of any criticism regarding the way they use the H-1B program. I do systems integration work so we work with a wide range of these companies. I've worked with people and software from Infosys and TCS as well as the lower-tier guys like Mindtree and NIIT. The problem is that even if you bring the work to somewhere like Indiana, you can't change the fundamental business model and so you'll still get less than optimal service.
All of these consulting firms, whether they're body shops like Infosys and TCS, or white-shoe management consulting firms, operate on a very familiar business model:
- Rely on a gold-plated sales team and rockstar consulting team to sell the dream and come up with the initial proposal
- Once the deal is signed, replace the rockstars with fresh grads or less-than-rockstar experienced consultants for the client-facing stuff, like collecting requirements or delivering PowerPoints.
- In the case of an outsourcing, send in a group to collect all the information about the company's business processes. Body shops sending the work offshore typically use their H-1Bs for this task, while the fancy consulting firms fly in the graduating class of the Ivy League business schools; it's a very common first job for that crowd.
- Send everything that actually involves work offshore or to other cheap "delivery centers" to maximize the profit on the deal
The problem is that whether these cheap delivery centers are offshore or onshore, I think they'll have big problems staffing them with qualified people. Consulting firms squeeze every last dime out of outsourcing deals because they have to break even...and in many cases they have to support a huge raft of executive salaries with big expense accounts on top of that. Consulting firms think nothing of flying senior people in from wherever, for months at a time on full reimbursement, and their customers end up paying for that. When you get down to the people who would be working in Infosys's Indiana office, they're going to try to pay minimum wage or slightly above because the entire model is making the actual work cheap while putting a good face on for the customer.
I don't think I'd like to work there, simply because they have a reputation among experienced IT people and developers. Just because you move the people here doesn't mean the model changes. It will still be a body shop mentality where you're cranking out random Java or .NET code for some corporate website or managing a company's IT systems poorly from remote. At the very least, however, it is domestic entry level work for newbies. Hopefully those newbies will endure a year or two in the middle of nowhere, then use the experience to move on.
Nope thats not how international business works. Union Carbide broke Indian safety laws and caused a gas leak which killed more people than Saddam ever did in his Chemical Weapons campaigns. Instead of standing trial the US embassy spirited out the Union Carbide execs in the middle of the night on a plane chartered for the embassy. Govts. support their multinationals even when they play hardball overseas. Indian govt has made it very clear they see the H1B as a trade issue and not an immigration issue and any restrictions on H1B and L1 will be retaliated on with tariffs on American goods being exported to India. e.g. India can do a China and ban Facebook, Google, Amazon from India. Local alternatives will grow (its not like Indians cant code. Most of the Facebbok,Google and Amazon code is written by Indians anyway). Facebook has more Indian users than the entire adult population of USA so its not a trivially small market.
India does not because it has free trade agreements with US. USA will not hamper the export of software dev services by messing with H1B because the tech lobby in the US does not want to be shut out of exporting services to India.
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