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Colleges Are Starting Varsity Programs For Video Games (theoutline.com)

An anonymous reader shares an article: Professional esports -- competitive video game playing as a spectator sport -- is surging in the U.S., with revenues in the hundreds of millions and growing fast. So it's little surprise that collegiate esports -- in which universities field their own teams just as they would for baseball or basketball -- has been been growing as well, to the point where players are now sometimes earning scholarships that pay their entire tuition. Stephen's College, an all-women's college in Columbia, Missouri, announced a varsity esports program two weeks ago. The University of Utah did the same in early April. The growth of varsity esports teams is phenomenal, said Michael Brooks, executive director at the National Association of Collegiate eSports (NACE), a non-profit organization that is working to set standards and build infrastructure for the scene. NACE launched in September to advocate for college esports, initiate communication between schools, and provide information to program directors interested in varsity esports programs. At the time, there were only seven varsity esports programs in North America. Now there are 34 varsity programs in total, and 31 are members of NACE. Brooks expects the number of varsity programs to double by August.

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  1. Not very mindful by Tailhook · · Score: 0

    Gamers are predominantly male. Won't catering to yet another male dominated activity create a hostile and exclusionary environment on campus?

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    1. Re:Not very mindful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Title IX regulations already require schools to offer the same opportunities to women, assuming they do all male/female teams.

    2. Re:Not very mindful by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      You know, it is possible to take this social justice thing too far.

  2. "Non-profit" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NFL is a non-profit too.

    1. Re:"Non-profit" by AndroSyn · · Score: 1

      The NFL *was* non-profit. That hasn't been the case for a few years:

      NFL no longer non-profit after giving up tax exempt status

  3. On the plus side... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As much as people like to complain about video card costs; it should be fairly difficult for this nonsense to be nearly as expensive as the more traditional flavors of college sportsball.

    1. Re:On the plus side... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Video cards are a right! Low income deserve GPU subsidies like they have in Europe.

    2. Re:On the plus side... by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Single payer GPUs (Government Processing Units) for ALL!

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    3. Re:On the plus side... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As much as people like to complain about video card costs; it should be fairly difficult for this nonsense to be nearly as expensive as the more traditional flavors of college sportsball.

      Them: 'Challenge Accepted!'

  4. Now all they need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is competitive video games that are actually fun to play and watch.
    Something like Blood Bowl would probably be pretty good, because there's a lot more thought that goes into playing it

    1. Re:Now all they need by Moheeheeko · · Score: 1

      Rocket League fits the bill, its just football with cars after all.

    2. Re:Now all they need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a gamer who doesn't care for sportsball (no, I don't typically flaunt it) I would probably find athletics about equally un-interesting as video games.

      It might be my fault, it might be that I expect them to match up to typical entertainment media, to be paced and dramatic and fresh. Instead I get to watch players huddle around the same strategies, the same optimization, and they "go through the motions". Granted, so does handegg. It's just smart play, y'know.

      More than that, I think it's my lack of interest in celebrity. Is it more exciting to watch a chess match live? Why not a recording? Hell, it's chess, I can replay the movelist.

      You don't, because you're invested in the electricity between the players. You are, anyway. I don't seem to be. I'm interested in an event, the sequence, the outcome, not the people. It could be a psych block, a bad empathy circuit. If so, at least it lets me scrutinize my subconscious and parse it in words.

  5. You've gotta be kidding me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Sports, 1st of all? Are dumb. Yes, this is coming from a former NCAA lettering 1st string jock (for a national power in their division) - it's even dumber than competitive sports (especially @ the collegiate level)... I've also heard its coming to the Olympic games (video gaming? Please) as well!

    * So, why are sports "dumb"? Well, in collegiate academia, it's no longer 'fun' (it's made even harder work training than it is in highschool & mine was a power in football (state champ but we were caught training early in summer than allowed 1 yr. & heavily penalized) + lacrosse (the sport I stuck w/ even though I was better in football - I was "ok" in this game though, good enough to play NCAA & start my freshman year)). It's a job you ARE underpaid for (most guys do not get 'full rides' you get some aid to play like room & board to live on campus) & you're NOT THERE TO PLAY GAMES, you're there to LEARN (your chosen careerpath in life hopefully & not everyone has that option either)...

    Will I say sports keep you in shape (a good thing)? Yes, absolutely... but your mind WILL outlast your body (guaranteed, no matter how much you lift/run etc. after it's all done - I did until 5 yrs. ago & then I "tried to be 20 again" & destroyed my rotator cuff... no more benchpresses forever (none worth doing that help @ least) - I was told "look out around 45-55, you break down easier, & sure enough it happened..."

    * Yes, I loved my video games (Wolf3d for DOS until Doom III) then, I "lost my love of them" (I bought Doom IV just to have another 64 bit game here w/ Hexen II port to 64 bit but... I just don't feel the same about gaming anymore - something changed. I'd rather write code to be honest, even when you "hit a wall"/'writers cramp' & it gets frustrating - it produces something useful is why).

    APK

    P.S.=> Don't get me wrong - I loved the game I played (same feelings Jim Brown had about football vs. lacrosse, exactly) but it was just a game... but @ least it KEPT YOU IN PHYSICAL SHAPE - video gaming doesn't (makes you get OUT OF SHAPE if anything)... apk

    1. Re:You've gotta be kidding me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just don't feel the same about gaming anymore - something changed.

      You grew up and became a man. So many man children out there that wonder why they can't get a date, some people just need to grow up and put down the video games.

    2. Re:You've gotta be kidding me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha disregard that, I suck cocks.

      APK

      PS => Don't get me wrong - I loved sucking all that cock in the locker rooms before and after games... apk

    3. Re:You've gotta be kidding me... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

      CS Lewis

  6. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gamer guys LOVE LOVE LOVE gamer chicks. The greater risk here is that the environment will be TOO welcoming of women.

    And also, unlike most sports, women can actually defeat men at video games, due to the high reliance on strategy, reflexes, and dexterity over strength and mass. So it is a much more balanced playing field.

    1. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much like women defeat men at other sports where their strengths in strategy, reflex, and dexterity win over men such as...

    2. Re:No. by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      speak for yourself. I play video games, and the idea of dating a socially awkward mumbling chick with interests limited to cat videos and minecraft sounds painful.

    3. Re: No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are "gamer girls" out there, but the ones on Twitch make money on their looks; think webcam porn but without needing to take their clothes off. You shouldn't be able to look at a girl and say, "oh she plays video games." If you can do that, then you know it's BS. The truth is, 9/10 the female players suck and then get all "cutesy" about it and the donations keep flying in regardless. Can you really expect the Twitch audience, ages 12 to complete pervert, be able to hold those players in high regard as a player or as a fetish to throw money at?

  7. AKA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can be 200 lbs overweight and play it with competitive success, it's a game, not a sport.

    We ave an established term for these: "video games". There's nothing wrong with them. But they are not "sports".

    1. Re:AKA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Geeks don't think jocks are ever right. Video games a sport, be gone you Neanderthal man with a cheerleader on your arm, leave me to dream of being violent and powerful while I sit in my mom's dark basement doing my home work on the Xbox, in my underwear.....

      Ah mom I'm in the middle of a game and I cannot stop! OK, OK, I'll get to the trash in a second and I cleaned my room LAST WEEK...

    2. Re:AKA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you can be 200 lbs overweight and play it with competitive success, it's a game, not a sport.

      Well a nose tackle in American football very well might meet those requirements on being overweight and still be very competitive. Mind you that is a position where your entire job is to take up space and hopefully deal with two opposing players in the process.

      I think Sumo wrestlers might fall into the same category. I

      That said, both of those types of athletes have a large amount of muscle underneath all of that fat.

    3. Re: AKA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'recalled e-sports, not sports. It seems you've already figured out the difference.

    4. Re:AKA... by jandersen · · Score: 1

      It is a bizarre fact, that anything that is even vaguely competitive and can be commericalised as a form of entertainment, counts as 'sport' in the US. I think the most eye-watering example of this, so far, is the eating competitions; the sight of blubbery blokes engulfing vast amounts of fast food in the shortest time possible - and being called 'athletes' - sent me straight to the salad bowl for a week. Sport indeed.

    5. Re:AKA... by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      It is a bizarre fact, that anything that is even vaguely competitive and can be commericalised as a form of entertainment, counts as 'sport' in the US. I think the most eye-watering example of this, so far, is the eating competitions; the sight of blubbery blokes engulfing vast amounts of fast food in the shortest time possible - and being called 'athletes' - sent me straight to the salad bowl for a week. Sport indeed.

      The best competitve eaters aren't "blubbery blokes". The fat actually gets in the way of their stomach expanding so they can't eat as much as others.

    6. Re:AKA... by jandersen · · Score: 1

      The best competitve eaters aren't "blubbery blokes".

      That was by way of poetic license - "it ain't wrong, if it sounds good" ;-) Why let mere facts stand in the way of a good rant?

    7. Re:AKA... by Ranbot · · Score: 1

      If you can be 200 lbs overweight and play it with competitive success, it's a game, not a sport.

      We ave an established term for these: "video games". There's nothing wrong with them. But they are not "sports".

      They are e-sports not sports that "e-" is critical, but pedantics aside.... There is a low bar for what people call "sport" that I think video gaming can clear. ESPN thinks professional poker, eating competitions, billiards, and trick-shot pool are sport enough to air on TV...many of those people don't look too healthy. One can win an Olympic medal in eight different categories of target shooting. Although it is more active than video games, the Olympic event of "race walking" [20KM and 50KM] seems incredibly silly when one could run. Last but certainly not least, the multi-billion dollar infinite left-turn sport of NASCAR, where competitors sit for long periods of times making slight movements to control a piece of technology while talking to their team on a microphone... sound familiar? I think pro video gamers can fit right in "sports."

  8. Silly, silly colleges. by NormanHaga2580 · · Score: 0

    What about next year when the video game d'impulsion du moment changes flavor. Opps, need a new varsity team.

  9. No more excuse for parents by ghoul · · Score: 2

    As a parent of 2 young kids its a constant struggle to get them to play outdoor sports instead of video games. One argument I have been using is it may help you get a college scholarship if you are good at a sport. Now that argument is going away I wonder what excuse to get them out in the fresh air.

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    1. Re:No more excuse for parents by tepples · · Score: 1

      How about "ball sports are less likely than e-sports to get you sued for copyright infringement if you stream your matches publicly"?

    2. Re:No more excuse for parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go for "You eyes will get square if you stare at the screen for too long", it's a classic.

    3. Re:No more excuse for parents by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, you can more easily streamline your future college choices by weeding out schools that have a varsity esports program.

    4. Re:No more excuse for parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about "Get yur ass outside and play or you won't be able to sit down for a week!"

  10. Why Spectate when you can Play by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    That whole competitive video gaming thing seems like one enormous scam targeted at gullible children. Seriously who the fuck are the mindless drones that basically play one gamer over and over and over and over and over, to bloody infinity. The most mind blowing stupendously boring and pointless activity. I like gaming, I like learning new games, I like games with replayability but fuck being forced to play the same game over and over and over again driven by greed and empty bullshit marketing targeted at children, fuck, I would rather lay bricks out in the sun.

    What kind of marketing shit will sick adults target at children next. http://www.skynews.com.au/news... there are some seriously sick super greedy adults out there.

    Like playing computer games, then play them, do not watch them, seriously play them. Look it is all so stupid, do the same thing over and over and over again and you will be better at it than other people who do not and instead do a lot of interesting and varied stuff. The only thing keeping that bullshit going is marketing targeted at children to manipulate them, make them feel inferior because they can not play that well, so they can try to make themselves feel better by buying worthless shit.

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    1. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by locopuyo · · Score: 1

      Sorry gramps, you'll never understand.

    2. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That whole competitive video gaming thing seems like one enormous scam targeted at gullible children.

      That's funny, given that most of the people currently in the highly competitive leagues are well into their 20s/30s. Hell, fighting games are seeing players well into their 40s. Actual competitive games are anything but targeted at children, since most children are too busy playing Minecraft/Roblox.

    3. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Because these aren't sports. If we try to understand by using the dictionary and encyclopedias it still doesn't make sense.

      Video game clubs makes sense, but they NOT sports. If they want to have different schools with video game clubs competing against each other (and tuition fees don't pay for it) then that's fine also, but that's still not the same as sports. The video game players may be just as rude as real sports jocks and shove the lesser nerds heads in the toilet, but that still doesn't mean it's a sport.

      You can't just change words like that and expect everyone to fall in line, just like you can't demand that everyone call your cat a dinosaur.

    4. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      I wonder the same about traditional sports. I see overweight, middle-aged men watching young, fit males work out together all hot and sweaty -- I'd rather watch straight porn, or even female gymnastics.

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    5. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! You can't call them esports for the same reason we're not allowed to call it 'email'!

    6. Re:Why Spectate when you can Play by mick129 · · Score: 1

      That whole competitive video gaming thing seems like one enormous scam targeted at gullible children. Seriously who the fuck are the mindless drones that basically play one gamer over and over and over and over and over, to bloody infinity.

      Why do people spectate traditional sports? I don't do it myself much, but I get the impression it is to enjoy the skill of impressive players.

      Do you let your heart bleed for traditional sports players? They're playing the SAME GAME over and over, so sad.

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  11. E-sports copyright by tepples · · Score: 2

    it should be fairly difficult for this nonsense to be nearly as expensive as the more traditional flavors of college sportsball.

    E-sports has one expense that ball sports lack, namely a royalty payable to each game's publisher. The owner of copyright in a proprietary video game has the exclusive right to authorize public performance of its audiovisual work, and a game's publisher can sue any school that streams its matches or makes captures available for later viewing without a license.

    1. Re:E-sports copyright by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Having not read the article, two thoughts come to mind:

      1.) Game leagues require a network effect - if there's only one team per division because only one school can afford it, it's going to be a bit difficult for a game to become entrenched at the college level. If Blizzard makes competitive Starcraft fees problematically high, Riot Games can undercut them, and if they're too high, call Epic Games to undercut and use Unreal Tournament or whatever. I'm sure "becoming the de facto standard game played in eSports when the idea is first being implemented" is going to provide incentive to license for peanuts until the matches can start paying themselves.

      2.) Don't competitive gaming leagues already exist? Don't they have rates somewhere? Why would the colleges pay differently?

    2. Re:E-sports copyright by tepples · · Score: 1

      If Blizzard makes competitive Starcraft fees problematically high, Riot Games can undercut them

      Riot Games is legally prohibited from providing StarCraft. If you're referring to a school dropping one e-sport in favor another, I don't see how skills from one game necessarily transfer any more than skills from baseball transfer to cricket or vice versa.

      license for peanuts until the matches can start paying themselves.

      In other words, dump licenses until you're a monopoly and then jack up the rates.

      Don't competitive gaming leagues already exist? Don't they have rates somewhere?

      Professional leagues run into the same problem. See Ars Technica's article about e-sports copyright.

    3. Re:E-sports copyright by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      E-sports has one expense that ball sports lack, namely a royalty payable to each game's publisher. The owner of copyright in a proprietary video game has the exclusive right to authorize public performance of its audiovisual work, and a game's publisher can sue any school that streams its matches or makes captures available for later viewing without a license.

      You'll be surprised, but varsity leagues for regular athletic sports have the same restrictions and often charge their members fees for participation as well.

      And yes, there can often be restrictions on who can broadcast what as well, which happens just as often in the professional leagues as well (NFL is a well know abuser to take down "illegal" rebroadcasts. Olympics are another).

      And if something embarrassing happens, well, the leagues can also sweep it under the rug.

  12. Sports are about the body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's face it: this is stupid. It's a stupid idea. Sports are about showing off what the body (and mind together) are capable of. e-Sports just isn't the same. Video games is a much more appropriate name.

    1. Re:Sports are about the body by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Not like golf, equestrian and other activities which are clearly not sports are already put under the umbrella.

    2. Re:Sports are about the body by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Always some dipshit who says something like this. You show zero understanding of the two sports you mentioned.

    3. Re:Sports are about the body by Luthair · · Score: 1

      They'll be sports when you carry the horse through the course or change golf so its like the biathlon. Until then they are no more sports than pool, snooker, darts, bowling or racing cars.

  13. My glory days as captain of the varsity Zork team. by Snufu · · Score: 3, Funny

    I had to beat off the throngs of adoring coeds with my slide rule.

  14. Re:Well.. by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    You mean the life they're not really allowed to enjoy anymore because legions of governments, insurance companies, employers, and schools think fun is too dangerous, costly, or just bad for the bottom line?

  15. Re:My glory days as captain of the varsity Zork te by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet you did a lot of beating off in your glory days

  16. Impersonating me again proves 1 thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You WISH you were me (but you have it wrong & you're projecting your own "StRaNgE" desires onto me)

    * I don't do that (bet you do though, impersonator).

    APK

    P.S.=> It's great to have such a devoted (albeit twisted) fanclub/set of "secret admirers", lol... apk

  17. Not Surprising by Luthair · · Score: 1

    They smell money and want a piece. 'Student' gamers who don't get paid next?

    1. Re:Not Surprising by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      will all of dumb NCAA rules so you got a free video card from ATI to bad you lose and your student loans are now 80K

  18. Cheating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, who audits the software to make sure that no one is silently rigging matches?

  19. Not sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until these "esports" players are told to piss in a cup, they are not sports.

    Even chess tests for drugs.

  20. VGS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Video Game High School (IMDb)

  21. Not so wierd by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    In Japan, they do tank battles as a sport.

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  22. How will companies block games but not sports site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just want to see how corporate meatheads in charge of picking which website categories to block handle this one... Imagine ESPN.com with video game coverage on the front page... how will they block video game websites but not their precious sports websites?

  23. High school choice to prepare for college... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Game_High_School

  24. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... by hackel · · Score: 0

    Further evidence that the U.S. educational system is a complete joke. The inclusion of physical sports is absurd and needs to be eliminated. Just because they're now including a more geek-friendly kind of competition doesn't make it any more acceptable. The world is laughing at us. AGAIN. There's going to come a time when a degree from a U.S. "college" (let alone an actual University) is worthless.

  25. NFL is one of many gridiron football leagues by tepples · · Score: 1

    varsity leagues for regular athletic sports have the same restrictions and often charge their members fees for participation as well.

    A set of schools that play a ball sport is free to start a new league without having to pay the owner of exclusive rights in the sport. This isn't true of an e-sport.

    And yes, there can often be restrictions on who can broadcast what as well, which happens just as often in the professional leagues as well (NFL is a well know abuser to take down "illegal" rebroadcasts. Olympics are another).

    The difference is that with ball sports, these rights are controlled only by the league, not by the owner of a whole sport. NFL is one gridiron football league; others exist, and no law prevents a few hundred athletes from starting their own, such as USFL and XFL. Olympics is a league; there are other leagues for every sport contested at IOC events. A game publisher has legal exclusive right over all leagues playing that sport; each league has to either kiss the publisher's behind or stop playing an entire sport.

  26. Re:Well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or social justice warriors who think a man's gaze is the equivalent of rape? Microagressions?

  27. You should never listen to a 'should' argument... by rcharbon · · Score: 1

    ...but... Colleges should not be allowed to give scholarships for anything other than academics or financial need and still keep their tax-exempt status. The reason for hiring the best athletes (the reason for sports scholarships) is to make money. Since it's a for-profit enterprise, it should be taxed.

  28. UC, Irvine (Anteaters) has fielded a team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rip 'em Eaters!